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  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    So reasonably pocket sized is easy, keyboard I'm SOL on. Guess I'll manage, especially if I can at least tip sideways for bigger keys. As for carrier, currently verizon, not particularly tied to them, Google Fi would be in the area, but unless something got added since my parents hopped on the Fi boat, the only phone they're supporting is practically a dinner plate.

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  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    The Nexus 5X just came out and it, of course, supports fi

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    So reasonably pocket sized is easy, keyboard I'm SOL on. Guess I'll manage, especially if I can at least tip sideways for bigger keys. As for carrier, currently verizon, not particularly tied to them, Google Fi would be in the area, but unless something got added since my parents hopped on the Fi boat, the only phone they're supporting is practically a dinner plate.

    The Nexus 5X is a 5.2" phone that supports Fi.

    What I'd really recommend for size comparison is to go to a carrier store where you can actually look at phones and see the relative sizes. That'll help a lot.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Now that 6.0 is slowly making its way out there (I'm holding off, for now, on my N5), let me know if you had to do a factory reset like we had to do for 5.x. That's probably my greatest worry right now.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    it's been 100% fine for me. it's more of a 5.2 update in what actually changes, compared to the jump from 4.4 to 5.0.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    This thread has gone 0 days without arguing about proper pocket size

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    anyone got any advice for extending battery life in Android 5.x? Samsung S6

  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    anyone got any advice for extending battery life in Android 5.x? Samsung S6

    This is my issue.I've avoided a reset but may try it. Previous to the last update I got about a day and a half on battery from just streaming music. Now I get less than 8. I get lock ups, crappy battery and Verizon mobile something always popping up that it stopped working.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    a factory reset is something you can try.

    Also, minimize things you have sync in the background. If you use facebook, maybe turn off auto update, or at least greatly reduce the schedule, same for things like twitter, etc. The more often things need to poll for data/updates/etc the more hit your battery takes.

    However, the Galaxy S6 is widely known for relatively poor battery life, especially compared to other phones this year. There are going to be physical limitations on how long that battery will last.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    well, then I come back to the point that the S6 is widely regarded as having the worst battery life of any flagship phone this year.

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  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

    How long have you had it? and have you got insurance? I would return it if you can.

    If not it might be worth shutting down a different app from one of the regular ones you use to see if any are working overload in the background. Its happened a few times with me using the mail app on Android in the past where it was working so much that I would get an hour from a single charge.

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    My money is on one or more Samsung apps having its way with your phone in the background.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

    How long have you had it? and have you got insurance? I would return it if you can.

    If not it might be worth shutting down a different app from one of the regular ones you use to see if any are working overload in the background. Its happened a few times with me using the mail app on Android in the past where it was working so much that I would get an hour from a single charge.

    I've checked the background stuff and also the battery stats and a vast majority of the juice is coming from Android OS and services

    I don't want to return the phone, I bought it specifically for GearVR

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    So, i'm 90% sure my Nexus 5 just died tonight. It was at 30% battery, so I put it on a charger, came back 30 minutes later and noticed it was off. Try to power it on, nothing.

    When it sits plugged in the charging icon flashes for about 3 seconds, then goes to black screen. When plugged in I can turn it on, it goes to the google screen, then shuts off and goes back to the charging icon. When plugged in I can get it into the bootloader, but as soon as I try to get into recovery (stock), it shuts down, back to the charging icon.

    I've tried taking it apart and disconnecting the battery for a bit, nothing.

    My 6P ETA is Nov 3-10. Super.

    I think my old Nexus 4 is in a drawer somewhere. Might have to try to find it.....

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  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

    How long have you had it? and have you got insurance? I would return it if you can.

    If not it might be worth shutting down a different app from one of the regular ones you use to see if any are working overload in the background. Its happened a few times with me using the mail app on Android in the past where it was working so much that I would get an hour from a single charge.

    I've checked the background stuff and also the battery stats and a vast majority of the juice is coming from Android OS and services

    I don't want to return the phone, I bought it specifically for GearVR

    When it happened to me, like your phone, it didn't list anything running in the background.

    I was more thinking you could exchange it for another S6? I know from my friends who have the S6 and the S6 Edge, that while battery life is quite poor, it shouldn't be that poor that quickly.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    So after digging my Nexus 4 out and getting that thing set up, mostly with just basic stuff so I can use it for a few weeks, it's still a surprisingly solid device. I can't really tell the difference between it's 720p panel and 1080p on the Nexus 5, though the actual quality of the 5's screen is/was better. It was a tad slow doing app installs and updates, so it doesn't exactly fly, and I'm sure that the first time I try to use the camera I'm going to shed a couple tears, but I kinda forgot how solid the N4 was in 2012, especially for the price.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

    How long have you had it? and have you got insurance? I would return it if you can.

    If not it might be worth shutting down a different app from one of the regular ones you use to see if any are working overload in the background. Its happened a few times with me using the mail app on Android in the past where it was working so much that I would get an hour from a single charge.

    I've checked the background stuff and also the battery stats and a vast majority of the juice is coming from Android OS and services

    I don't want to return the phone, I bought it specifically for GearVR

    When it happened to me, like your phone, it didn't list anything running in the background.

    I was more thinking you could exchange it for another S6? I know from my friends who have the S6 and the S6 Edge, that while battery life is quite poor, it shouldn't be that poor that quickly.

    I haven't quantified how much battery service I am getting...

    When I unplug it in the morning on a full charge it generally tells me it will make it to about 2AM the next morning... it can generally make it to midnight without plugging it in, but only with modest social media and call use.

    I can't use the hell out of it like i used my iPhone

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Ziggymon wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    well its a brand new phone, so factory reset seems like a no-go for me

    How long have you had it? and have you got insurance? I would return it if you can.

    If not it might be worth shutting down a different app from one of the regular ones you use to see if any are working overload in the background. Its happened a few times with me using the mail app on Android in the past where it was working so much that I would get an hour from a single charge.

    I've checked the background stuff and also the battery stats and a vast majority of the juice is coming from Android OS and services

    I don't want to return the phone, I bought it specifically for GearVR

    When it happened to me, like your phone, it didn't list anything running in the background.

    I was more thinking you could exchange it for another S6? I know from my friends who have the S6 and the S6 Edge, that while battery life is quite poor, it shouldn't be that poor that quickly.

    I haven't quantified how much battery service I am getting...

    When I unplug it in the morning on a full charge it generally tells me it will make it to about 2AM the next morning... it can generally make it to midnight without plugging it in, but only with modest social media and call use.

    I can't use the hell out of it like i used my iPhone

    So while that's not as good as your prevoius phone, yea that's generally the battery life you're going to expect to get, especially from the S6.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    So for those of you who have flashed Marshmallow, I have a question about how Doze works.

    From what I've read, for example in this Android Central article, when you phone is idle (screen off, not being moved, not being touched) it will start dozing and only wake up and show notifications for high priority apps - basically just calls or texts - call for it.

    What bothers me is that this article specifically cites emails as being low-priority notifications that aren't worthy of waking up my phone from doze mode (on the same level as Clash of Clans notifications). If my phone enters doze mode is it not going to, for example, wake up to notify me I have a new work email because it only deems calls and texts important enough to bother?

    Because I kind of need to know when I have new emails. So I can keep my job, and be able to afford things like nice smartphones.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    So for those of you who have flashed Marshmallow, I have a question about how Doze works.

    From what I've read, for example in this Android Central article, when you phone is idle (screen off, not being moved, not being touched) it will start dozing and only wake up and show notifications for high priority apps - basically just calls or texts - call for it.

    What bothers me is that this article specifically cites emails as being low-priority notifications that aren't worthy of waking up my phone from doze mode (on the same level as Clash of Clans notifications). If my phone enters doze mode is it not going to, for example, wake up to notify me I have a new work email because it only deems calls and texts important enough to bother?

    Because I kind of need to know when I have new emails. So I can keep my job, and be able to afford things like nice smartphones.

    I don't have a work enabled device on 6.0, but at a worst case scenario you can exempt any app from doze if you find it isn't giving you notifications that you can't miss.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    So for those of you who have flashed Marshmallow, I have a question about how Doze works.

    From what I've read, for example in this Android Central article, when you phone is idle (screen off, not being moved, not being touched) it will start dozing and only wake up and show notifications for high priority apps - basically just calls or texts - call for it.

    What bothers me is that this article specifically cites emails as being low-priority notifications that aren't worthy of waking up my phone from doze mode (on the same level as Clash of Clans notifications). If my phone enters doze mode is it not going to, for example, wake up to notify me I have a new work email because it only deems calls and texts important enough to bother?

    Because I kind of need to know when I have new emails. So I can keep my job, and be able to afford things like nice smartphones.

    I don't have a work enabled device on 6.0, but at a worst case scenario you can exempt any app from doze if you find it isn't giving you notifications that you can't miss.

    This is what I wanted to hear.

  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Doze seems to break MightyText, if you use that. I ended up just uninstalling it, though.

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    So, done a bit of poking around at phones, including a trip to a Verizon store to look at actual physical phones, and I think what I'm gonna go for is waiting for my Fi invite to come in, then snag a Nexus 5x through that. Contract on my current plan is up in January, so assuming the early termination fee scales based on how much time is left, it shouldn't be that horrible.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    It does scale with the time remaining in your contract. I want to say it bottoms out at like $60 for two months or less left but don't quote me on that.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    @Gaslight , if no one else beats me to it, I'll try to check tonight. Sounds like it's over an hour before going into doze.

    As said earlier, seems like a minor update on the surface at least and has not slowed my N5 noticeably.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Holy crap I think I brought my Nexus 5 back form the dead. I was able to get it into fastboot, and was able to keep it there long enough to unlock the bootloader. I tried flashing the 6.0 image, and it still wasn't booting.

    I tried the 5.1.1 image.....still wasn't booting. For the hell of it, I kept going back, and on the 5.0 image, of all things, it is now booting and going through the setup process.

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  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    Android Police has most of the Nexus 6 Marshmallow OTA updates posted (no AT&T yet). I'm installing it now on mine and will report back.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    i did a bunch of S6 feature turn-off stuff and got some respectable-ish battery life today.. although I would really rather not have to keep bluetooth off

  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    I was hoping to get a Moto X Gen 2 on black Friday/cyber Monday based on Motos history of good deals around then. But with how slow the roll out of Lollypop was on my Gen1, and now looking like Marshmallow on Gen2 will at best the same delay, if it gets it at all. Plus the fact that they still think 16gb is a good starting point for memory and want $50 to upgrade to $32. I'm kinda bummed out with Moto.

    Then I read this article at Droid-Life, and it really echoed my feelings. I've been Moto since the first Droid (bought a week after launch cause the first batch sold out before I could get a hold of it), and Samsung never really impressed me. idk where to go for my next upgrade.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    I was hoping to get a Moto X Gen 2 on black Friday/cyber Monday based on Motos history of good deals around then. But with how slow the roll out of Lollypop was on my Gen1, and now looking like Marshmallow on Gen2 will at best the same delay, if it gets it at all. Plus the fact that they still think 16gb is a good starting point for memory and want $50 to upgrade to $32. I'm kinda bummed out with Moto.

    Then I read this article at Droid-Life, and it really echoed my feelings. I've been Moto since the first Droid (bought a week after launch cause the first batch sold out before I could get a hold of it), and Samsung never really impressed me. idk where to go for my next upgrade.

    yea i will never buy another samsung phone. moto has my loyalty for now especially as the operating system has minimally skinned

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    @Gaslight , if no one else beats me to it, I'll try to check tonight. Sounds like it's over an hour before going into doze.

    As said earlier, seems like a minor update on the surface at least and has not slowed my N5 noticeably.

    So I checked last night and only when I picked up my phone and opened Chrome did some emails pop in. Looked liked it was waiting to connect.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    mts wrote: »
    I was hoping to get a Moto X Gen 2 on black Friday/cyber Monday based on Motos history of good deals around then. But with how slow the roll out of Lollypop was on my Gen1, and now looking like Marshmallow on Gen2 will at best the same delay, if it gets it at all. Plus the fact that they still think 16gb is a good starting point for memory and want $50 to upgrade to $32. I'm kinda bummed out with Moto.

    Then I read this article at Droid-Life, and it really echoed my feelings. I've been Moto since the first Droid (bought a week after launch cause the first batch sold out before I could get a hold of it), and Samsung never really impressed me. idk where to go for my next upgrade.

    yea i will never buy another samsung phone. moto has my loyalty for now especially as the operating system has minimally skinned

    Starting with the N4, I decided that I will only ever buy Nexus phones. Not having to wait on updates is nice.

    I'd buy an iPhone before I went to Samsung, though.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    @Gaslight , if no one else beats me to it, I'll try to check tonight. Sounds like it's over an hour before going into doze.

    As said earlier, seems like a minor update on the surface at least and has not slowed my N5 noticeably.

    So I checked last night and only when I picked up my phone and opened Chrome did some emails pop in. Looked liked it was waiting to connect.

    https://youtu.be/ZJLzAzjxc8A?t=13

    But if I can exempt apps from Doze if need be I guess it's OK.

  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    It's probably just paranoia, but this has me even more worried about Moto now that it's part of Lenovo
    http://www.cnet.com/news/lenovo-hit-by-lawsuit-over-superfish-adware/

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    ugh

    had to factory reset my nexus 9. OTA 6.0 broke it. corrupted the launcher somehow, it gets stuck in an infinite loop of "settings has stopped" on the lock screen and can't proceed forward. tried reapplying the 6.0 update and wiping the cache partition and still ended up at the same place.

    hoping the reset solves it

    edit: oh good - that only made it worse.

    now what?

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    ugh

    had to factory reset my nexus 9. OTA 6.0 broke it. corrupted the launcher somehow, it gets stuck in an infinite loop of "settings has stopped" on the lock screen and can't proceed forward. tried reapplying the 6.0 update and wiping the cache partition and still ended up at the same place.

    hoping the reset solves it

    edit: oh good - that only made it worse.

    now what?

    you could flash the factory image.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    ugh

    had to factory reset my nexus 9. OTA 6.0 broke it. corrupted the launcher somehow, it gets stuck in an infinite loop of "settings has stopped" on the lock screen and can't proceed forward. tried reapplying the 6.0 update and wiping the cache partition and still ended up at the same place.

    hoping the reset solves it

    edit: oh good - that only made it worse.

    now what?

    you could flash the factory image.

    is that not what the factory reset is?

    my bootloader is still locked, so I'm not 100% on what my options are here. I haven't delved deeply into flashing anything on android devices before.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Hello, Android folks. I'm awaiting delivery of my first ever Android device, an LG G4. I've been using an iPhone 4S for the last four years; and although I've loved it, I've never quite forgiven Apple for iOS7+ which in several respects ruined it, have started having other problems creep in with it, and have had little experience of Android, pretty much only very minimal fiddling with my mum's tablet... but after playing around with some friends' phones, reading a zillion reviews and watching a zillion more Youtube vids, the G4 seemed to be the way to go for me. It'll be a learning experience moving to Android but it seems perfectly do-able so far.

    I've read back a couple of pages and not seen any mention of the G4. But thus far it seems to be pretty much what I'm after; it's (seemingly) the only flagship phone that still offers expandable storage via microSD and also a removable battery, the camera is just spectacular, and considering it's going toe-to-toe with phones like the Galaxy S6 and iPhone 6/6S, the price is pretty great - I bought it outright as I'm really happy with my provider here in the UK (Three) and my SIM-only plan, my specific one of which they don't actually offer any more.

    I was hoping to get a Moto X Gen 2 on black Friday/cyber Monday based on Motos history of good deals around then. But with how slow the roll out of Lollypop was on my Gen1, and now looking like Marshmallow on Gen2 will at best the same delay, if it gets it at all. Plus the fact that they still think 16gb is a good starting point for memory and want $50 to upgrade to $32. I'm kinda bummed out with Moto.

    Then I read this article at Droid-Life, and it really echoed my feelings. I've been Moto since the first Droid (bought a week after launch cause the first batch sold out before I could get a hold of it), and Samsung never really impressed me. idk where to go for my next upgrade.

    ...and I wonder if the G4 is one you might want to look at, assuming it's available in your region. The G4 comes with 32GB and, like I said, has the microSD slot which - almost unbelievably - supports up to 2TB, so you're pretty future-proofed storage-wise. And it'll be one of, if not the first, OEMs to get Marshmallow, apparently.

    Or of course there's the Nexuses which seem to be spoken of highly.

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