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Soccer Ball 15: The Zurich Job

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Fully expecting Blatter to win, I still want to take a look at the May update of Ali's manifesto. I will quote the original, then the updated text on some things that stood out to me. Bolding not mine.


Section 1, A1, 1. Substantial increase in support to National Associations that need it most:
Over and above the packages which every National Association will continue to be entitled to, substantially more funding, investment and development support should go to those Associations that need it most so that the game improves in all developing football nations. I will ensure that each Member Association has a National Stadium worthy of that title and I will guarantee that, within four years, every single Football Association in the world has what it needs to play the game, including basic infrastructure and equipment.

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Since 1998, all Football Associations have received a fixed annual FAP sum of $250,000. I commit to increase this amount to a minimum of $1,000,000 per year, to be annually dispersed on January 1st every year, irrespective of FIFA election cycles. This amount is separate and distinct from the additional tailor-made development packages that will be available to Football Associations, based on their needs, and which I expect to also grow substantially based on better financial management and increased commercial success for FIFA. I will ensure that each Member Association has a National Stadium worthy of that title and I will guarantee that, within four years, every single Football Association in the world has what it needs to play the game, including basic infrastructure and equipment.

Getting really specific.


Section 1, B2, World Cup. This section bares little resemblance to its original form.
The FIFA World Cup FIFA is the only International Federation in the world which has a flagship event bigger in many respects than the Olympic Games. The FIFA World Cup is both incredible and awe-inspiring – and we have a duty of care to look after it.

It is important to acknowledge firstly, that any possible changes in the number of participating nations at the FIFA World Cup would be very unlikely to come into effect until after 2022, and secondly that, however you look to expand the World Cup, for every perceived benefit there is also the potential to upset the balance of a tournament that is very competitive and has worked well for many years. Here is my proposal:

» Continental rotation system
Collaborate with stakeholders from across the sport to establish a formal continental rotation system, while maintaining the requirement that the FIFA Congress should decide future World Cup Host Nations.

» Development-led expansion
If the primary mission of FIFA is “Developing Football Everywhere and For All,” it follows that succeeding in this mission will ultimately lead to growth at the top of the game, and that our flagship competition should be allowed to expand accordingly.

On this premise, I believe that the idea of expanding the FIFA World Cup may have merit, but the decision about the number of new places should not be made arbitrarily in an election year. The issue needs to be studied, subject to widespread consultation, and any proposed solutions must be designed to protect those Confederations whose teams perform consistently well at Final tournaments and give encouragement and incentives to nations who are developing their football and should have an opportunity to perform at the highest level.

» Gradual rather than sudden growth
I believe FIFA World Cup expansion needs to be based upon the development successes of National Associations. Development will not happen overnight, and there is a valid argument that FIFA World Cup expansion should not happen overnight either. I am in favour of a gradual expansion of the FIFA World Cup to reflect improvement at the elite end of the game.

» Strategic and democratic decision-making
This is your FIFA. I do not believe that the decision about FIFA World Cup expansion should be the diktat of one individual, but rather that a decision should be taken democratically in response to a thorough discussion, scenario planning and consultation process.

My commitment, therefore, is that I will ensure that meaningful professional research is conducted, the football family is fully consulted and the impacts of all options are considered. I will ensure a sound recommendation for the optimum number of FIFA World Cup places, the allocation of places and the timeline for any possible changes. Only then will the FIFA Executive Committee be asked to make a decision on any proposed changes.

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The FIFA World Cup is the biggest public event on the planet. It is both incredible and awe-inspiring – and we have a duty of care to look after it.

My Manifesto was written in consultation with stakeholders, and I have listened carefully to your needs. The demands pertaining to World Cup slots are clearly an urgent priority, and in light of that, I believe that I can now offer a concrete proposal for the immediate future, which represents a “win” for everybody:

» Guarantee that no Confederation will face a reduction in World Cup Slots
No Confederation will face a reduction in World Cup Slots. I guarantee that all current World Cup Slots will be protected, and that the new slots will not be created at the expense of any existing slots.

» Commitment to expanding the World Cup as soon as possible from 32 to 36 teams
I am committed to extending the number of countries participating in the World Cup from 32 to 36 teams as soon as possible, with a view to further, development-led expansion to be considered thereafter. I am committed to exploring all options to enable this expansion urgently, ideally in time for the 2018 World Cup. The proposal which I am committed to and which I will put to the FIFA Executive Committee for approval, is as follows:

● Increase in AFC World Cup Slot Allocation from 4.5 slots to 5.5 slot
● Increase in CAF World Cup Slot Allocation from 5 slots to 6 slots
● Increase in CONCACAF World Cup Slot Allocation from 3.5 slots to 4.5 slots
● Increase in CONMEBOL World Cup Slot Allocation from 4.5 slots to 5 slots
● Increase in OFC World Cup Slot Allocation from 0.5 slots to 1 slot
● UEFA World Cup Slot Allocation of 13 slots (+1 additional slot for the host country in 2018)

» Continental rotation system.
I will collaborate with stakeholders from across the sport to establish a formal continental rotation system, while maintaining the requirement that the FIFA Congress should decide future World Cup Host Nations.

See what I mean? The pitch to the non-UEFA confederations is rather clear.


Section 2, A, Leadership and Governance. You know, the good stuff. Some changes and additions to the beginning.
The world’s game deserves a world-class governing body — an International Federation that is a service organisation and a model of ethics, transparency and good governance. I will make FIFA worthy of the world’s game by transforming it into a governing body that:

» Clearly defines and respects the proper roles and responsibilities of the President, the Executive Committee, and the administration so that the extent and limit of authority is clear at all levels.

blah blah blah

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The world’s game deserves a world-class governing body — an International Federation that is a service organisation and a model of ethics, transparency and good governance.

I will table a proposal for a formal term limit of a maximum of two four year terms for FIFA Presidents to be written into the FIFA Statutes. This is in no way a reflection of an expectation for how individual Football Associations should be run, but will allow FIFA to benefit from fresh faces and fresh thinking on a regular basis. The stability of the organisation will be safe-guarded by the reduction in the historically sweeping powers of the President. The checks and balances within the organisation brought by good governance will guarantee stability for FIFA despite Presidents serving shorter terms than they historically have done.

If you give me the honour of electing me as your President, I propose to create a new “President’s Board”, to be comprised of the Presidents of each FIFA Confederation. This new body will make decisions on important matters which will be put forward as recommendations for ratification by FIFA’s Executive Committee. Together, we will make FIFA worthy of the world’s game by transforming it into a governing body that:

» Publishes the Garcia Report in full, as soon as possible.

» Clearly defines and respects the proper roles and responsibilities of the President, the Executive Committee, and the administration so that the extent and limit of authority is clear at all levels

blah blah

Under Section 2, B, Corporate Responsibility, one more section was added.
7. Protecting Human Rights
Whilst always protecting the autonomy of sport, it is important for FIFA to work in partnership with national governments, NGOs and all stakeholders, and as the world governing body of football, I believe that FIFA has a responsibility to ensure that its tournaments and events are prepared properly and safely – everywhere in the world.

I am an advocate for the introduction of a FIFA global standard for a whole range of football safety and security issues, including the prevention of tragic incidents occurring during stadium construction and ensuring labour rights and fair working conditions are observed. I will ensure that FIFA develops this global tournament standard to ensure the safe delivery of FIFA events, with workers’ rights and fair working conditions safeguarded.

Further, I will, if elected, ensure that an assessment on labour rights and other fundamental human rights is included in the future bidding procedures for World Cups. In the redrawn bidding criteria, bidding countries will be required to demonstrate how they will protect human rights in the staging and hosting of the event.

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  • No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    I think that when Blatter wins it will make burning fifa to the ground an easier job than if Ali were to win.

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  • nusunusu Registered User regular
    Watching this live on ESPN is pretty hilarious. As Bob Ley said, this is like watching a high school class election ballot

  • DraevenDraeven Registered User regular
    1st vote didn't pass, 2nd ballot is under way. Fucking blatter. Its like watching Nero as rome burns.

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  • nusunusu Registered User regular
    Time for everyone who spoke out about what they would do if Blatter won to put up or shut up. LOLFIFA

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    First ballot required a 2/3 majority, with Sepp holding 133 votes (out of 209, 63%) and Ali holding 73 votes. Second ballot is simple majority, so basically we'll have to wait another hour for official confirmation that Sepp got re-elected.

  • MuffinatronMuffinatron Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Draeven wrote: »
    1st vote didn't pass, 2nd ballot is under way. Fucking blatter. Its like watching Nero as rome burns.

    Yeah, 133 votes to 73 in Blatter's favour. He needs 140 to win.

    Writing is on the wall.

    Will be interesting to see if UEFA follows through on it's threat to boycott. Also, David Gill to have the shortest ever Vice-Presidential reign.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Ali has withdrawn his name from consideration, Sepp wins

  • nusunusu Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    I look forward to Platini hand waving away his idle UEFA withdrawing from FIFA threat.

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Fuck. Now what?

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Did anyone else see the ESPN computer wanting to restart? Hilarious.

  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    4 more years!

    4 more years!

    Wait.....no....

  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    There is one interesting effect to Ali dropping after Round 1.

    Namely, his more wavering support, the nations that would likely have fallen in line behind Blatter in a Round 2 vote, are now unable to do so. They made their bed and Ali's ensured they're going to have to lie in it.

    I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    UEFA should withdraw from the next two World Cups but won't, because money.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah, no chance UEFA ever follows through on any of their threats.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    "I am willing to accept the president of FIFA is responsible for everything but I would at least like to share that responsibility with everyone," Blatter said earlier in a presidential address on Friday in Zurich, Switzerland. "We cannot constantly supervise everyone in football ... you cannot ask everyone to behave ethically."

    ~Blatter

  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    UEFA should withdraw from the next two World Cups but won't, because money.

    UEFA doesn't care that FIFA is laughably corrupt. They are just annoyed that the corruption doesn't benefit them.

    Also, UEFA doesn't care that 4000 slaves will die while constructing the 2022 World Cup. They are much more concerned with having to figure out how to postpone the 2022 season for 2 months instead.

  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    UEFA should withdraw from the next two World Cups but won't, because money.

    The whole thing is that they're not getting the money anyway; it's flowing away from them and into the hands of the Blatter contingent. Fans will, at the end of the day, go wherever the top players are going. If the likes of Sturridge and Schweinsteiger and Cristiano Ronaldo aren't in the organization that runs the World Cup, the World Cup has its balls cut off. Bribing to maximize votes is one thing, but if the folks who actually have all the money don't feel like they're getting a fair shake and decide to pull out of the arrangement, now what?

    Granted, I also heard one of the ESPN folks theorize that part of why Blatter's still there isn't so much the power as much as, at his age, this is all he has in life. He likes the money and power, sure, but he also likes to travel a lot and it's not like he DOESN'T like soccer or anything. It's the Donald Sterling situation all over again: cling to the throne to the bitter end at all costs, because as soon as you lose it, you're just kinda sitting there waiting to die.

    I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    UEFA should withdraw from the next two World Cups but won't, because money.

    If UEFA and the US broke away and brought their broadcast rights with them, FIFA would lose nearly 2/3 of their revenue

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    I feel like we need a modern Machiavelli to explain Blatter to us. To win an election mere hours after so many corruption arrests... it's impressive, I have to admit.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I feel like we need a modern Machiavelli to explain Blatter to us. To win an election mere hours after so many corruption arrests... it's impressive, I have to admit.

    It's because Blatter's platform of support is built out of places that don't care.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    “For the next four years, I will be in command of this boat called FIFA,” he said. “We will bring it back on shore.”

    Um, Sepp? Bringing your ship on shore is usually a bad thing.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    So, you know what the difference between Hollywood and real life is?

    Hollywood actually has to worry about suspension of disbelief.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    PantsB wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    UEFA should withdraw from the next two World Cups but won't, because money.

    If UEFA and the US broke away and brought their broadcast rights with them, FIFA would lose nearly 2/3 of their revenue

    In a split, everyone loses money. For that threat to be convincing, one party has to believe that the other is not motivated by money.

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  • nusunusu Registered User regular
    UEFA, CONMEBOL break away and do their own tourney (and maybe invite CONCACAF to be nice), that tournament would have >>> power than the WC, as far as teams and winners go. It would represent every WC winner (only teams from UEFA and CONMEBOL have won the WC), and most finalists/semifinalist/quarterfinalists would be represented)

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    I get it. I do. Nobody gives a shit about a tier-11 club either. But that doesn't actually make them relevant. I love trawling through small nations looking for that hidden gem in Football Manager. I just don't really expect to find one.

    Providing support for these small nations is exactly the kind of thing FIFA should do. But how about not doing it whilst stealing candy from babies?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    I get it. I do. Nobody gives a shit about a tier-11 club either. But that doesn't actually make them relevant. I love trawling through small nations looking for that hidden gem in Football Manager. I just don't really expect to find one.

    Providing support for these small nations is exactly the kind of thing FIFA should do. But how about not doing it whilst stealing candy from babies?

    Except that it turns out that they are relevant, because they made the bulwark that guaranteed that Blatter stayed in power. You want to convince Africa to can Sepp? Convince them that they won't get fucked over by the next guy.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Oh what happens if Blatter was reelected, Platini was vaguely threatening, but quite obviously non-committal. I guess the generous interpretation of that is to give UEFA flexibility, and FIFA the chance to do something without it seeming like an ultimatum. The only time he says something definitive shows what UEFA's priorities are.

    Michel Platini has suggested that UEFA will consider all options should Sep Blatter be re-elected as FIFA's head man on Friday, but claims he would rather not be put in a position to pull UEFA out of FIFA competitions.

    FIFA has been enveloped by controversy after nine of its officials were among 14 individuals to have been indicted by the United States Department of Justice regarding allegations of racketeering, conspiracy and corruption, with seven of those charged arrested in Zurich on Wednesday.

    Despite the uproar, president Platini confirmed that UEFA is not planning to snub Friday's presidential elections - in which Blatter is seeking a fifth term in office - and he stated that the majority of UEFA members will back rival candidate Prince Ali bin Al Hussein.

    The Frenchman also confirmed that UEFA withdrawing from future FIFA tournaments is a possibility, but that he hopes it will not come to that.

    "UEFA associations will meet in Berlin next week. We will be open to all options," Platini responded when asked if he would consider boycotting FIFA competitions.

    "There may be proposals. I honestly don't wish that."

    Platini also stated that he would not accept UEFA losing a spot at football's marquee tournament, adding: "That's a red line that will not be crossed."

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    I get it. I do. Nobody gives a shit about a tier-11 club either. But that doesn't actually make them relevant. I love trawling through small nations looking for that hidden gem in Football Manager. I just don't really expect to find one.

    Providing support for these small nations is exactly the kind of thing FIFA should do. But how about not doing it whilst stealing candy from babies?

    Except that it turns out that they are relevant, because they made the bulwark that guaranteed that Blatter stayed in power. You want to convince Africa to can Sepp? Convince them that they won't get fucked over by the next guy.

    Wasn't Ali promising to quadruple the amount of yearly money conferences get from FIFA?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    I get it. I do. Nobody gives a shit about a tier-11 club either. But that doesn't actually make them relevant. I love trawling through small nations looking for that hidden gem in Football Manager. I just don't really expect to find one.

    Providing support for these small nations is exactly the kind of thing FIFA should do. But how about not doing it whilst stealing candy from babies?

    Except that it turns out that they are relevant, because they made the bulwark that guaranteed that Blatter stayed in power. You want to convince Africa to can Sepp? Convince them that they won't get fucked over by the next guy.

    Wasn't Ali promising to quadruple the amount of yearly money conferences get from FIFA?

    I don't know about that, but I'm sure the fear of reprisal if they 'lost' is a big enough fear.

    How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?

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  • oldmankenoldmanken Registered User regular
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    And it's not entirely an argument without merit, to be honest.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Oh, from the FFXIV thread (trust me, it will make sense):
    So, a quote from the recent FIFA mess:
    In his victory speech, Mr Blatter said: "I'm not perfect. Nobody is perfect. But we will do a good job together."

    OH GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

    So, the context - one of the bigger annoyances in FFXIV these days is gilseller spam, and the geese have gotten...creative. One more notorious gilbot starts off with the phrase "Nobody's perfect, so let's make things better." Needless to say, the idea of Sepp sounding like nothing more than a real life gilseller really just explains so much.

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  • MuffinatronMuffinatron Registered User regular
    So David Gill followed through on his threat. He refused his role on the executive committee

    Full article on BBC here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32942569

    I somewhat doubt Platini is going to show any backbone and follow through on his threats to have UEFA boycott.

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  • oldmankenoldmanken Registered User regular
    He'll be hard pressed to get the FAs to boycott, especially considering France and Spain both voted for Blatter.

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    There's been some talk about taking away European places from the EPL because the league has been kind of under-performing. There's probably some merit to doing so, but...

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    oldmanken wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    And it's not entirely an argument without merit, to be honest.

    Well, these nations should be acknowledged and money (through official channels, not bribes) should go towards improving their infrastructure and whatnot, but they absolutely shouldn't have as much voting power as Germany, England, France, Brazil etc.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    There's been some talk about taking away European places from the EPL because the league has been kind of under-performing. There's probably some merit to doing so, but...

    That's nothing to do with any of this. though.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Maz- wrote: »
    oldmanken wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    And it's not entirely an argument without merit, to be honest.

    Well, these nations should be acknowledged and money (through official channels, not bribes) should go towards improving their infrastructure and whatnot, but they absolutely shouldn't have as much voting power as Germany, England, France, Brazil etc.

    How would you determine voting power? Population? Because AFC and CAF have between them 85% of the world's population. Unless you're going for something based on soccer rankings, and that's a non-starter.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    There's been some talk about taking away European places from the EPL because the league has been kind of under-performing. There's probably some merit to doing so, but...

    That's nothing to do with any of this. though.

    No, it isn't. However, would you put it past Blatter or those around him to close the bridge yank some spots just out of spite? People are already suggesting that the US advocating against him may hurt future chances at getting another WC. England could be in the same position because they've been so vocal since Russia got '18.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    oldmanken wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »
    Here's the explanation as given by Guinea-Bissau and the Cook Islands: namely, 'Blatter recognizes that we exist. Bribes? Whatever. The rest of you basically think we don't deserve to even be here.'

    And it's not entirely an argument without merit, to be honest.

    Well, these nations should be acknowledged and money (through official channels, not bribes) should go towards improving their infrastructure and whatnot, but they absolutely shouldn't have as much voting power as Germany, England, France, Brazil etc.

    How would you determine voting power? Population? Because AFC and CAF have between them 85% of the world's population. Unless you're going for something based on soccer rankings, and that's a non-starter.

    I'm also unwilling to consider introducing some sort of electoral college based on relative power/strength. If these small nations vote for Blatter because they think anybody else will screw them over, then it's probably a better idea to ensure they won't get fucked over rather than suggesting a way to fuck them over.

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