It seems that Marvel has slots for movies set in stone, and the movies themselves just slot in and out as needed.
Throughout all the movie push-backs and move-forwards the dates themselves stay the exact same.
So, the announced the movies in 2014 went like this (I left off the first three because they were unaffected by the changes)
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017
Infinity War I- Feb 16, 2018
Captain Marvel - May 4, 2018
Infinity War II - July 6, 2018
Inhumans - March 8, 2019
When they added Spider-Man it pushed everyone after it back a slot.
Spider-Man - July 28, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - November 3, 2017
Black Panther - Feb 16, 2018
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6, 2018
Infinity War II - March 8, 2019
Inhumans - May 3, 2019
Now that they added Ant-Man and Wasp the dates are the same just the order of the movies have been changed again. I'd suspect that they actually have a board somewhere where those dates are written out in vinyl and the movie titles are on magnets being moved forward and back when something changes.
Maybe it's to stop people from getting burned out at Marvel or to stop audiences from getting burned out, but they seem to be sticking to the idea that three movies in a one year period is the limit.
You have the scheduling off a bit. The pre-Spider-Man schedule was
Thor Ragnarok - July 28th, 2017
Black Panther - November 3 2017
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6th, 2018
Inhumans - November 2nd, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019
The new Spider-Man schedule was changed like
Spider-Man - July 28th, 2017 Thor: Ragnarok - November 3 2017
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018 Black Panther - July 6th, 2018 Captain Marvel - November 2nd, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019 Inhumans - July 12th, 2019
The new schedule created new slots so they could change dates without changing the order of the films again. Black Panther even actually got push up in date to before Avengers 3 again, rather than pushed back. Black Panther - February 16, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018 Ant-Man and the Wasp July 6th, 2018 Captain Marvel - March 8th, 2019
Avengers Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019
Inhumans - July 12th, 2019
It seems that Marvel has slots for movies set in stone, and the movies themselves just slot in and out as needed.
Throughout all the movie push-backs and move-forwards the dates themselves stay the exact same.
So, the announced the movies in 2014 went like this (I left off the first three because they were unaffected by the changes)
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017
Infinity War I- Feb 16, 2018
Captain Marvel - May 4, 2018
Infinity War II - July 6, 2018
Inhumans - March 8, 2019
When they added Spider-Man it pushed everyone after it back a slot.
Spider-Man - July 28, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - November 3, 2017
Black Panther - Feb 16, 2018
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6, 2018
Infinity War II - March 8, 2019
Inhumans - May 3, 2019
Schedule was close but this was the original
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 2018
Inhumans - November 2018
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
After spider-man was announced it became
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Spider man - July 2017
Thor ragnarok - November 2017
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Black Panther - July 2018
Captain Marvel - November 2018
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
inhumans - July 2019
Now with these updates it becomes
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Spider man - July 2017
Thor ragnarok - November 2017
Black Panther - Feb 2018
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Ant Man and the Wasp - July 2018
Captain Marvel - March 2019
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
inhumans - July 2019
Untitled - may 2020
Untitled - July 2020
Untitled - nov 2020
I haven't bothered to spend any effort looking into the future of marvel films but now I see that apparently Benedict Cumerbatch is going to be Dr. Strange and Tilda Swinton is going to be The Ancient One.
This actually gets their schedule to 3 a year now with the announcement.
they always put their biggest movies in the May slot. Civil War, Guardians 2 (who would expected that), and Infinity War 1/2. Make me wonder what the big one will be for 2020s slot. Guardians 3? Maybe Spider-man 2 depending on how the first does?
My bet is those 2 and maybe dr strange 2 for the 2020 slots.
This actually gets their schedule to 3 a year now with the announcement.
they always put their biggest movies in the May slot. Civil War, Guardians 2 (who would expected that), and Infinity War 1/2. Make me wonder what the big one will be for 2020s slot. Guardians 3? Maybe Spider-man 2 depending on how the first does?
My bet is those 2 and maybe dr strange 2 for the 2020 slots.
Squirrel girl.
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I haven't bothered to spend any effort looking into the future of marvel films but now I see that apparently Benedict Cumerbatch is going to be Dr. Strange and Tilda Swinton is going to be The Ancient One.
I need to go change my pants, excuse me.
Doc Strange and Inhumans are the two properties I desperately want to see. Everything else is just another punch in the buy seven get one free coffee card.
Not that I don't love them. I'm just ready for Avengers without Steve Rogers and everyone else to go the way of Barton.
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Eh, good for it, I was just completely ambivalent with Ant-Man, and don't know that there's anything there to give it a sequel as opposed to the two just being in the next avengers movies.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Adam McKay direct it since it seems they just need a director in name only now
Or they'll bring the director back because they do reward directors who do good for them.
Not really, at best it's 50/50.
Favreau was run off after birthing this golden child, Whedon seems burned out of life by how he was treated with Age of Ultron, they stole Wright's ideas like people try to steal Pym Particles and kicked him to the curb. Branagh seemed to see into the horizon of what was expected should he return and said "nope." Joe Johnston didn't seem to be offered Winter Soldier at all. Alan Taylor didn't seem to enjoy his time directing at all.
James Gunn and the Russos are the only ones who seem to have decent relationships so far.
Eh, good for it, I was just completely ambivalent with Ant-Man, and don't know that there's anything there to give it a sequel as opposed to the two just being in the next avengers movies.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Adam McKay direct it since it seems they just need a director in name only now
Or they'll bring the director back because they do reward directors who do good for them.
Not really, at best it's 50/50.
Favreau was run off after birthing this golden child, Whedon seems burned out of life by how he was treated with Age of Ultron, they stole Wright's ideas like people try to steal Pym Particles and kicked him to the curb. Branagh seemed to see into the horizon of what was expected should he return and said "nope." Joe Johnston didn't seem to be offered Winter Soldier at all. Alan Taylor didn't seem to enjoy his time directing at all.
James Gunn and the Russos are the only ones who seem to have decent relationships so far.
Joss Whedon, the Russos, James Gunn and Favreau were all bought back for at least one sequel, and Whedon has had a fruitful relationship with Marvel few others have had the opportunity to. His associates and business Mutant Enemy have become intertwined with Marvel tv shows, his brother and sister-in-law showrun AoS, and ME employees are in full force on Daredevil. He's also been a major architect and script doctor for the MCU after Avengers, that's a huge reason why he was run ragged before AoU - he wasn't just a director, he was an integral cog in the machine at the highest level. And he directed the AOs pilot and written several of their scripts (46!). Sure he was burned out by AOU, and Marvel did go overboard there, but he wasn't chased off the lot with sticks or anything. He also had been working there for years, so it's not a shock that he wants to do something on his own for a while.
They fucked up with Fav.
They didn't steal Wright's ideas, by signing on with them he new what he was getting into when he created material for them. The studios keep the ideas, and it's up to them what to do with it. Usually they start over, actually. And they gave him a producing credit, because everyone knew how valuable he was to the movie. Wright, from what I've read, isn't a director who'd fit in with Marvel's system even if he did direct it. He likes to work at his own pace, is a perfectionist and likes to be his own boss - so they came into conflict. He gave them a great skeleton of a story to work with and they produced an amazing film. Not every good thing in the movie was from Wright either
supposedly Lilly's role was reduced to a cameo in his movie, while in the new version she ascended to the supporting cast. One of the biggest sticking points allegedly was the Falcon cameo, which was one of the best scenes in the movie. The movie stalling is probably the biggest reason why Ant-man wasn't around earlier, it was meant to be in Phase One, so Marvel had to have Stark create Ultron.
Wright had a problem with making the movie intertwined with the MCU, which was untenable with Marvel's system from the get-go - which only got more intense later on when they established their system. Which would have been fine if the movie wasn't connected to anything else, but it was.
James Gunn has had a fantastic relationship with Marvel. They pushed him further into outlandish territory with GOTG, not held him back.
Like all studios Marvel's system doesn't work for everybody. Many directors won't like the atmosphere, but that occurs in all studio cultures.
Eh, good for it, I was just completely ambivalent with Ant-Man, and don't know that there's anything there to give it a sequel as opposed to the two just being in the next avengers movies.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Adam McKay direct it since it seems they just need a director in name only now
Ant-Man had a larger following with women and families than other Marvel movies, so it was pretty much a given that it'd get a sequel pretty soon.
I'd love to believe that it was because it was a great movie, but I'm just cynical enough to recognize that the appeal to a different audience is something Disney was going to jump on, and I say Disney instead of Marvel because it was Disney exec Dave Hollis who was trumpeting the market appeal.
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It's funny, you know.
The MCU has grown exponentially to such an extent now that it really wouldn't surprise me that some projects might be put on hold or just recede into the background for a good long while.
It makes more sense that they take their time, and make room for unexpected hits to dictate some revisions to their production schedule.
I suspect Thor Ragnarok has to be the lead-in to the Infinity War. Much as I dig the big guy, I don't know what else they could do to encourage me to see a third standalone Thor movie other than that.
Other than the whole relationship being out of left field what's wrong with it?
Well, Black Widow basically says she's a monster because of what was done to her,which is problematic on a lot of levels.
I thought it was implied that part of why she says that is because of what she's done because of the training as well.
Talking explicitly about her surgery (for a cause that she believed in, sure), and indicating in the most oblique manner possible that her revelation that her penance for being Russia's(or whoever controls the Red Room) best agent/assassin turns out to be possibly worse is not the best indication that she feels worse about the latter than the former.
But yes we did talk about this, so whatever.
Fencingsax on
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Is there a way to watch those without the terrible black screen every few seconds? These scenes aren't on the Bluray, right?
I believe they actually are on the blu-ray in the extras section.
Can confirm.
There won't be an extended edition or director's cut - Whedon said the theatrical version of the film is the only one he's interested in showing, that it is his version already.
I mean, I guess Disney could override him if they want to release a second version, but has there been any second special editions of any MCU films so far?
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Isn't it the lowest performing MCU film that isn't The Hulk? Seems like they would be priortizing getting more new IPs out there instead.
It was a hit, they probably didn't want to wait too long before the buzz died down.
I'm still butthurt though. Not Ant-Man's fault, I'm just bullying him to make myself feel better.
You have the scheduling off a bit. The pre-Spider-Man schedule was
Thor Ragnarok - July 28th, 2017
Black Panther - November 3 2017
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6th, 2018
Inhumans - November 2nd, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019
The new Spider-Man schedule was changed like
Spider-Man - July 28th, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - November 3 2017
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018
Black Panther - July 6th, 2018
Captain Marvel - November 2nd, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019
Inhumans - July 12th, 2019
(Source: http://marvel.com/news/movies/24065/marvel_studios_schedules_new_release_dates_for_4_films )
Note that Avengers 3 and 4 didn't change dates from the Spider-Man addition, while Black Panther is now post Avenger 3, Captain Marvel is still in between Avengers 3 and 4 and Inhumans is now post Avengers 4.
The new schedule created new slots so they could change dates without changing the order of the films again. Black Panther even actually got push up in date to before Avengers 3 again, rather than pushed back.
Black Panther - February 16, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4th, 2018
Ant-Man and the Wasp July 6th, 2018
Captain Marvel - March 8th, 2019
Avengers Infinity War Part 2 - May 3rd, 2019
Inhumans - July 12th, 2019
Schedule was close but this was the original
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 2018
Inhumans - November 2018
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
After spider-man was announced it became
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Spider man - July 2017
Thor ragnarok - November 2017
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Black Panther - July 2018
Captain Marvel - November 2018
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
inhumans - July 2019
Now with these updates it becomes
Guardians 2 - may 2017
Spider man - July 2017
Thor ragnarok - November 2017
Black Panther - Feb 2018
Infinity War I- May 4, 2018
Ant Man and the Wasp - July 2018
Captain Marvel - March 2019
Infinity war 2 - may 2019
inhumans - July 2019
Untitled - may 2020
Untitled - July 2020
Untitled - nov 2020
It did better than the first Captain America
Cap 1: 176.6 domestic, 193.9 foreign
Ant-Man: 178.4 domestic, 231 foreign
I need to go change my pants, excuse me.
they always put their biggest movies in the May slot. Civil War, Guardians 2 (who would expected that), and Infinity War 1/2. Make me wonder what the big one will be for 2020s slot. Guardians 3? Maybe Spider-man 2 depending on how the first does?
My bet is those 2 and maybe dr strange 2 for the 2020 slots.
Squirrel girl.
Doc Strange and Inhumans are the two properties I desperately want to see. Everything else is just another punch in the buy seven get one free coffee card.
Not that I don't love them. I'm just ready for Avengers without Steve Rogers and everyone else to go the way of Barton.
Not really, at best it's 50/50.
Favreau was run off after birthing this golden child, Whedon seems burned out of life by how he was treated with Age of Ultron, they stole Wright's ideas like people try to steal Pym Particles and kicked him to the curb. Branagh seemed to see into the horizon of what was expected should he return and said "nope." Joe Johnston didn't seem to be offered Winter Soldier at all. Alan Taylor didn't seem to enjoy his time directing at all.
James Gunn and the Russos are the only ones who seem to have decent relationships so far.
Spider-man:Ragnarok , and I'm so curious what that series would be if it existed heh
Joss Whedon, the Russos, James Gunn and Favreau were all bought back for at least one sequel, and Whedon has had a fruitful relationship with Marvel few others have had the opportunity to. His associates and business Mutant Enemy have become intertwined with Marvel tv shows, his brother and sister-in-law showrun AoS, and ME employees are in full force on Daredevil. He's also been a major architect and script doctor for the MCU after Avengers, that's a huge reason why he was run ragged before AoU - he wasn't just a director, he was an integral cog in the machine at the highest level. And he directed the AOs pilot and written several of their scripts (46!). Sure he was burned out by AOU, and Marvel did go overboard there, but he wasn't chased off the lot with sticks or anything. He also had been working there for years, so it's not a shock that he wants to do something on his own for a while.
They fucked up with Fav.
They didn't steal Wright's ideas, by signing on with them he new what he was getting into when he created material for them. The studios keep the ideas, and it's up to them what to do with it. Usually they start over, actually. And they gave him a producing credit, because everyone knew how valuable he was to the movie. Wright, from what I've read, isn't a director who'd fit in with Marvel's system even if he did direct it. He likes to work at his own pace, is a perfectionist and likes to be his own boss - so they came into conflict. He gave them a great skeleton of a story to work with and they produced an amazing film. Not every good thing in the movie was from Wright either
James Gunn has had a fantastic relationship with Marvel. They pushed him further into outlandish territory with GOTG, not held him back.
Like all studios Marvel's system doesn't work for everybody. Many directors won't like the atmosphere, but that occurs in all studio cultures.
Ant-Man had a larger following with women and families than other Marvel movies, so it was pretty much a given that it'd get a sequel pretty soon.
I'd love to believe that it was because it was a great movie, but I'm just cynical enough to recognize that the appeal to a different audience is something Disney was going to jump on, and I say Disney instead of Marvel because it was Disney exec Dave Hollis who was trumpeting the market appeal.
Well, now you do. I hope that enriched your day.
The MCU has grown exponentially to such an extent now that it really wouldn't surprise me that some projects might be put on hold or just recede into the background for a good long while.
It makes more sense that they take their time, and make room for unexpected hits to dictate some revisions to their production schedule.
I suspect Thor Ragnarok has to be the lead-in to the Infinity War. Much as I dig the big guy, I don't know what else they could do to encourage me to see a third standalone Thor movie other than that.
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Agent of Asgard only came out in 2014 (after Dark World), and Marvel's film schedule is already packed to hell.
So
Let's get on that
Eventually it should, maybe after Thor's trilogy ends.
Pfff. They've made plenty.
Banner Romanov conversation was still bad,but not as bad.
Well, Black Widow basically says she's a monster because of what was done to her,which is problematic on a lot of levels.
although somewhere down the line doing AoA as basically 'Memento, the Comic Book Movie' would be fun
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Pretty sure we've (as in the thread in general) been over this before: It's not what was done, it's what she believed in/allowed.
I thought it was implied that part of why she says that is because of what she's done because of the training as well.
I'm still hoping against hope that they make an extended-edition DVD.
Talking explicitly about her surgery (for a cause that she believed in, sure), and indicating in the most oblique manner possible that her revelation that her penance for being Russia's(or whoever controls the Red Room) best agent/assassin turns out to be possibly worse is not the best indication that she feels worse about the latter than the former.
But yes we did talk about this, so whatever.
I believe they actually are on the blu-ray in the extras section.
Can confirm.
There won't be an extended edition or director's cut - Whedon said the theatrical version of the film is the only one he's interested in showing, that it is his version already.
I mean, I guess Disney could override him if they want to release a second version, but has there been any second special editions of any MCU films so far?
http://marvel.com/news/tv/25282/fox_in_development_on_hellfire_working_title
http://marvel.com/news/tv/25281/fx_networks_orders_pilot_for_legion