As I understand it, Hero characters and Multiplayer characters are different things?
Quoting Octus one of the multiple times he says this in the reddit:
It's part of our promotional partnership with Terminator Dark Fate. Characters will all be earnable except for promotional content (Halo, Terminator etc).
I actually like 3 of the 4 character. In reality would I want <any Carmine> first or Cole, Baird, or whatever instead of a generic cog? Absolutely. I still think the cog foot soldiers look cool so I'm on with it. The fuckin ultimate also is awesome for horde/escape.
Raam I'm eh on but I know he is popular but I love the warden with the helment. That being said he seems larger and therefore a liability for multiplayer.
Step 1. Craft at totem: Totems are equippable items that you craft for 100 scrap (not bad, I have nearly 4,000 right now)
Step 2. Do the following tasks while the totem is equipped (so you can only work on one character at a time)
-Complete 40 rounds of versus
-Survive 50 waves of horde
-Survive 18 chapters of escape
-Get 60,000 XP
-Character dependent task (COG Soldier: Get 200 assists in Versus, horde or Escape with a COG character, Deebe: Get 100 reject kills in Horde or Escape, Warden: Eliminate 10 wardens in Horder or Escape, RAAM: 30 executions in Versus as a Swarm character.)
All four characters are available in versus and arcade, but only the COG soldier has Horde/Escape stuff.
Oh yeah, and if you just want to buy them they're 500 iron or whatever, which is $4.99 on the store (cheaper in bulk, of course), but also comes with a 3-day boost which is either 750 iron for 3 1-day, or 600 iron for 1 7-day (So either a 750 value or a less than 300 value, depending on how you look at it. Again the 30 day boost with the best deal)
IT'S A FUCKING AD FOR A MOVIE! THEY'RE LITERALLY MAKING YOU PAY FOR ADVERTISING!
The whole point of this kind of shit is that it's free content paid for by whoever is trying to promote the movie or whatever.
I mean...not to come off as an apologist or something, but has any outside-IP character worked like that...ever?
Probably at some point, but I'm really struggling to remember when an guest character--with their own art assets, audio assets, etc.--wasn't a paid item and was instead a "promotional gift". It might speak poorly on us that we're willing to pay for it, but it's not an ad. An ad is an ad.
IT'S A FUCKING AD FOR A MOVIE! THEY'RE LITERALLY MAKING YOU PAY FOR ADVERTISING!
The whole point of this kind of shit is that it's free content paid for by whoever is trying to promote the movie or whatever.
I mean...not to come off as an apologist or something, but has any outside-IP character worked like that...ever?
Probably at some point, but I'm really struggling to remember when an guest character--with their own art assets, audio assets, etc.--wasn't a paid item and was instead a "promotional gift". It might speak poorly on us that we're willing to pay for it, but it's not an ad. An ad is an ad.
Literally the first two Terminator characters were "promotional gifts"
EDIT: And I say it's an ad because, undoubtedly, TC got paid a to put these characters into their game and they exist 100% to promote a movie. They're ads.
IT'S A FUCKING AD FOR A MOVIE! THEY'RE LITERALLY MAKING YOU PAY FOR ADVERTISING!
The whole point of this kind of shit is that it's free content paid for by whoever is trying to promote the movie or whatever.
I mean...not to come off as an apologist or something, but has any outside-IP character worked like that...ever?
Probably at some point, but I'm really struggling to remember when an guest character--with their own art assets, audio assets, etc.--wasn't a paid item and was instead a "promotional gift". It might speak poorly on us that we're willing to pay for it, but it's not an ad. An ad is an ad.
Literally the first two Terminator characters were "promotional gifts"
EDIT: And I say it's an ad because, undoubtedly, TC got paid a to put these characters into their game and they're exist 100% to promote a movie. They're ads.
Really? I thought they came with specific editions of the game. I stand corrected.
Well, I guess the further characters aren't ads unfortunately...?
My point of reference is Killer Instinct's list of guest characters, but that was a while back.
That feels a little less scummy, since those guests were other MS properties that happened to fit in that style of game. The Terminator stuff is very clearly a promotional campaign for the movie. I would say the difference is how it's presented, and Coalition seems pretty bad at communicating with their community
Step 1. Craft at totem: Totems are equippable items that you craft for 100 scrap (not bad, I have nearly 4,000 right now)
Step 2. Do the following tasks while the totem is equipped (so you can only work on one character at a time)
-Complete 40 rounds of versus
-Survive 50 waves of horde
-Survive 18 chapters of escape
-Get 60,000 XP
-Character dependent task (COG Soldier: Get 200 assists in Versus, horde or Escape with a COG character, Deebe: Get 100 reject kills in Horde or Escape, Warden: Eliminate 10 wardens in Horder or Escape, RAAM: 30 executions in Versus as a Swarm character.)
All four characters are available in versus and arcade, but only the COG soldier has Horde/Escape stuff.
That doesn't seem that bad if you care about only a single character. Well, outside of the 50 rounds of horde. That is going to take forever. Doing it 3 more times just isn't going to happen. After the cog soldier, if I unlock one by accident then great but I'm not going to a timely try to do it
50 rounds isn't consecutive. It doesn't take long to run through 1-10 on beginner, even by yourself. I did that to farm up stuff for Tour of Duty medals and objectives.
I think escape was supposed to provide for the quick PvE scenerio, but a 25 or 30 wave horde would be cool. Especially if they started you off with some decent power and dropped you into the harder stuff immediately.
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Pretty sure all the third party characters were only included in the Ultimate Edition of the game.
Given the barrier of access for that edition was incredibly low I can get the feeling but they weren't in of themselves simply given away to everyone
The Bautista skin was an actual giveaway since all people had to do to earn it was login and play whatever
You got the Terminator characters if you played first week, doesn't matter if you bought it or played via gamepass. The Halo characters are Ultimate edition only.
It sure sucks if you have no interest in one of the modes.
They really need to introduce (and keep) 25 wave horde, too.
Hah, speak of the devil. There's a limited time Terminator 20 wave horde mode. It just replaces Deebees with Terminators and sends them, along with trackers, guardians and kestrels at you. Beating it counts as a victory too, if you have objectives or medals you need to complete.
It sure sucks if you have no interest in one of the modes.
They really need to introduce (and keep) 25 wave horde, too.
Hah, speak of the devil. There's a limited time Terminator 20 wave horde mode. It just replaces Deebees with Terminators and sends them, along with trackers, guardians and kestrels at you. Beating it counts as a victory too, if you have objectives or medals you need to complete.
So it seems I did buy this game, within the Bautista promo period. Do I just have him, or do I have to do something to get him should I decide to play this at some point in the future? I vaguely remember 10/21 being a cutoff for something but I can't poke around to find out what atm.
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Yeah, I haven't even beat the campaign, sales are hard to track because Microsoft is obviously using the gamepass to include their player counts but none of my regular gears friends even mention playing this. I think TC ate up all the series good will and I know for my part the horde changes are just yuck.
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Nah the game is still plenty active and fun as fuck
I'm still mostly poking around on the co-op modes tho
Gears 5 as a game I think is great and an improvement over Gears 4 in pretty much every way. It just puts the grind front and center rather than obfuscating it behind lootboxes, so I got tired of it much faster.
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To me progression in Gears is about as meaningful to me as it has been in Call of Duty, which is honestly pretty meaningless
I know the hamster wheel is a big deal for some people but Overwatch completely ruined that concept for me, I'm not going to waste my time pretending to care about tchotchkes I'll never get close to getting with the hour or two I put in per day on average
I cannot blame people for being sick of the grind. I've never one to gears looking to acquire all the stuff, I just run execution or whatever game mode 50,000 times in a row. It does suck that characters are either an eternity to unlock it real money but it hasn't really impacted my desire to play at all. I'm still hitting multiplayer whenever I have the chance. Eventually I'll get around to trying horde so I can complete some of these items, but escape and the competitive modes have been keeping me busy
Nah the game is still plenty active and fun as fuck
I'm still mostly poking around on the co-op modes tho
Yeah, the game has been hugely successful on the word of mouth front. But I'm immersed with other people who really don't care about unlocking skins and don't really fixate on who they're playing in multiplayer, when they play multiplayer at all.
Singleplayer campaign was awesome, easily one of the the best of the year, and a technological masterpiece (though the later is also more "insider baseball" than most of my circle).
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Quoting Octus one of the multiple times he says this in the reddit:
Also:
Gears 5 Characters Explained
edit: highlighted the latter block because it includes the former two anyway.
I think all characters are also playable in Arcade Mode where they have specific loadouts. (COG and Swarm)
COG characters are also playable in Horde or Escape, where they have abilities and cards.
The DLC characters, so far, have been playable in both horde and escape.
Raam I'm eh on but I know he is popular but I love the warden with the helment. That being said he seems larger and therefore a liability for multiplayer.
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Here's what it takes to unlock these characters.
Step 1. Craft at totem: Totems are equippable items that you craft for 100 scrap (not bad, I have nearly 4,000 right now)
Step 2. Do the following tasks while the totem is equipped (so you can only work on one character at a time)
-Complete 40 rounds of versus
-Survive 50 waves of horde
-Survive 18 chapters of escape
-Get 60,000 XP
-Character dependent task (COG Soldier: Get 200 assists in Versus, horde or Escape with a COG character, Deebe: Get 100 reject kills in Horde or Escape, Warden: Eliminate 10 wardens in Horder or Escape, RAAM: 30 executions in Versus as a Swarm character.)
All four characters are available in versus and arcade, but only the COG soldier has Horde/Escape stuff.
I mean...not to come off as an apologist or something, but has any outside-IP character worked like that...ever?
Probably at some point, but I'm really struggling to remember when an guest character--with their own art assets, audio assets, etc.--wasn't a paid item and was instead a "promotional gift". It might speak poorly on us that we're willing to pay for it, but it's not an ad. An ad is an ad.
Literally the first two Terminator characters were "promotional gifts"
EDIT: And I say it's an ad because, undoubtedly, TC got paid a to put these characters into their game and they exist 100% to promote a movie. They're ads.
Really? I thought they came with specific editions of the game. I stand corrected.
Well, I guess the further characters aren't ads unfortunately...?
At least it gives you more than the Idolmaster planes... what skills does she have?
If anything it's similar to how MK fans are mad so few MK characters are in the DLC, half of the DLC are guests from other properties
EDIT: Also something can be an ad even if you ask money for it it; it's just gauche.
That feels a little less scummy, since those guests were other MS properties that happened to fit in that style of game. The Terminator stuff is very clearly a promotional campaign for the movie. I would say the difference is how it's presented, and Coalition seems pretty bad at communicating with their community
That doesn't seem that bad if you care about only a single character. Well, outside of the 50 rounds of horde. That is going to take forever. Doing it 3 more times just isn't going to happen. After the cog soldier, if I unlock one by accident then great but I'm not going to a timely try to do it
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They really need to introduce (and keep) 25 wave horde, too.
"This is a placeholder item description that the user should never see."
Uh....
Edit: this new hive is exactly what I thought escape would be. It's fun
I'll never complete it
But it's fun
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Given the barrier of access for that edition was incredibly low I can get the feeling but they weren't in of themselves simply given away to everyone
The Bautista skin was an actual giveaway since all people had to do to earn it was login and play whatever
Hah, speak of the devil. There's a limited time Terminator 20 wave horde mode. It just replaces Deebees with Terminators and sends them, along with trackers, guardians and kestrels at you. Beating it counts as a victory too, if you have objectives or medals you need to complete.
The characters they released were such a disappointment.
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Okay, I want to try that.
The challenges tied to it are up for 5 days
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Surprised they're adding Jermad to this. He's a locust sniper who showed up in the Rise of RAAM comic.
Lots of cool stuff there, but I think I might be done with the game.
I'm still mostly poking around on the co-op modes tho
Gears 5 has been a let down so far.
I know the hamster wheel is a big deal for some people but Overwatch completely ruined that concept for me, I'm not going to waste my time pretending to care about tchotchkes I'll never get close to getting with the hour or two I put in per day on average
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Yeah, the game has been hugely successful on the word of mouth front. But I'm immersed with other people who really don't care about unlocking skins and don't really fixate on who they're playing in multiplayer, when they play multiplayer at all.
Singleplayer campaign was awesome, easily one of the the best of the year, and a technological masterpiece (though the later is also more "insider baseball" than most of my circle).
Which is compounded by several medals requiring Baird or Lizzie. I don't really sweat the tour stuff, but the character grind isn't great.
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Main character appears to be Kait's father, Gabe Diaz. Main badguy is indeed Ukkon the monster maker from the Rise of RAAM comics. (Caaaalllllleeeed it)