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Penny Arcade - Comic - Hating The Player
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Penny Arcade - Comic - Hating The Player
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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Tycho is proving very good at playing out a suburban killing spree.
In, I guess, the same way Gabe once proved unsettlingly talented at using power tools on scrotums in Manhubt.
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I mean, they're all red in the last panel.
One curious thing is, almost all the reviews I've read were done with a 360 controller instead of mouse & keyboard, even though it's a PC only game at this point. And the game just demands more firing accuracy than a controller can offer. Enemies can be pretty lethal and need to be taken down quickly with pinpoint accuracy. So I see the game docked points for being "too hard" on those grounds quite a bit in reviews.
Seriously though, Hatred is Metalocalypse: The Game. Metal as fuck.
Have to say Hatred made me smile as well my first time playing it.
I've enjoyed it a lot, however it makes me wish it was made by a bigger developer or had a larger budget behind it.
The AI is downright terrible, I often find myself getting stuck on parts of the environment, the aiming isn't as good as it should be, the game often feels too slow paced and the objectives are too repetitive. However I I think the game has great character animations, I enjoy the solid core gameplay, atmosphere, presentation.
It's a decent $20 indie game and essentially Postal with more modern visuals.
I really would love to see a Triple A dev take a crack at making a game they feel is "offensive" or antisocial. Hatred's reach ultimately exceeds its grasp.
Eh, alot of people prefer twin stick shooters on a controller. So it's not surprising a bunch of people reviewed it using a controller.
Like, scary like.
It's scary.
Why do you…
Why do like Hatred.
My takeaway of Hatred is it's a tryhard "Remastered Ultra Definitive" fan-made version of the original Postal.
Hatred is a spree killer simulator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer
Serial killers take breaks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer
Careful Tycho, I used that word once late last year and was accused of being some sort of crazy dogwhistling neoreactionary by the local whackjobs, er I mean Totally Reasonable People Who Just Want To See The Medium Grow Up And Are Definitely Not Political Zealots Reviled By Most Of The Gaming Public.
I still don't know what an NRX or a Grogosphere is.
You should consider getting over it.
I know you were being sarcastic, but this is legitimately accurate.
TheRedPill is not "most of the gaming public".
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
Literature, film, television, paintings.
Just look at A Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire. People being flayed alive, pregnant mothers being murderer, rape, etc
Or shock horror films such as The Human Centipede and A Serbian Film.
Yes, these works have been somewhat controversial in their spheres, but they don't seem to be met with the same level of outrage, offense, and disdain as games do for comparatively softer content.
If a game dev tried to put forced abortion, rape, castration, incest, etc themes in their games, people would lose their minds.
Why is this? Is the fact that the medium is interactive a part of it? Is it the stigma that games are still largely "for children"?
To me, there seems to be different standards between video games and the rest of artistic media.
Sorry if this is too off-topic.
While I don't think we should just ignore silly crap like Hatred, I do agree with Tycho that we need to work harder on elevating more worthwhile stuff.
There is also, very currently, a big wave of awareness and social justice in the universe of gaming. Whether or not you like it, or agree with it, entirely or in part, this plays a role in people's reaction to Hatred. The timing of its release, and the fact that it isn't some clever second-degree game, but rather a "haha fuck you PC* crowd, we're making a violent game because we can!" kind deal certainly failed to impress many people.
We are at a period where we actively are trying to show the world that no, seriously, games are art, just like movies and books. While I don't oppose the creation of Hatred, nor am I pro-censorship, I do believe that the release of this stupid trash certainly hurts that message, at least at the moment, now, here, in 2015, in our society. Maybe it would have been very different 10 years ago, or 10 years away from now.
* politically-correct, not personal computer
EDIT: bleh, nevermind, Djiem said it better and quicker than I could.
Yes, but I'm not really involved in it to be honest. Have there been people calling to ban or remove GoT as they have with violent video games?
I don't see how games are "getting off the hook" when so many people are against them and avenues for their distribution get closed off because of it.
Good Old Games said they COULDN'T sell Hatred even though they wanted to (not sure if that's completely honest though).
I've always felt that the attempt to view something as "art" is fallacious as anything and everything can be considered "art". It's a highly subjective term that's usually touted to give creations more weight, respect, or importance. It's trying to elevate a piece, when in my opinion, all works are inherently equal in their creation and stand solely on their own merits.
The opinion of "the world" doesn't matter. To try and silence, remove, censor, or dictate what content is allowed in a creative medium is wrong in and of itself, regardless of if one considers it "art".
This, I understand and agree with. Context and presentation are extremely important in any work.
However, you still have shock horror films like the ones I mentioned above, whose sole purpose is to disgust, offend, or disturb. Those films as well are met with resistance and revulsion, as they probably should be. They just don't seem to generate the same level of controversy as these "new fangled murder games" do.
You said in your post that the opinion of "the world" doesn't matter, but it most certainly does if you're asking why games seem to generate more controversy. The opinion of the world certainly helps explaining the different standards, since the world makes these controversies (or doesn't).
Also, do games generate that much more controversy, really?
I haven't seen anything about Hatred on TV or in the newspaper, only on the Internet, and only on gaming news sites.
We sometimes seem to conflate our (the gamers and internet savy people) perception of the news with the mainstream news, and I think we see the story as being much bigger than it is to the rest of the world.
You're probably correct. It's most likely just my skewed viewpoint from being involved in gaming subculture as it's one of my primary hobbies and interests.