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Sense8: Season 2 is out
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So, Sense8 premiered today. The crazy assholes who brought you Fetch, The Matrix and a bunch of other terrible movies joined up with the creator of Babylon 5 and a bunch of comic books you probably haven't read. Together they have created an action scifi series exclusive to Netflix. http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/80025744?trkid=1
One gunshot, one death, one moment out of time that irrevocably links eight minds in disparate parts of the world, putting them in each other's lives, each other's secrets, and in terrible danger. Ordinary people suddenly reborn as "Sensates."
I am interested in watching this, but I accidentally started binging Orphan Black and now my trippy action suspense slot is filled for the time being.
So it's pretty good, then? Like on a scale from The Matrix to Matrix Revolutions, how good is it?
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I watched episode one and wasn't really feeling it. Does it get more coherent later?
Not really, it's the usual interesting ideas but muddled presentation the Wachowskis always deliver. So if you're a fan of their work it's probably pretty good.
It is definitely muddled. But in a way that makes sense? You're bounced back and forth between people's minds and I enjoyed the disorientation. And laughed out loud at hallucination chicken.
Everyone is introduced but not fully explored. You get a decent idea about everyone's situation though. The first episode mainly focuses on the cop, thief, and DJ. I'll probably watch one more episode tonight. It's by no mean amazing but the concept of a shared mind is something I've always loved and this show definitely nails that aspect.
First episode really seemed to drag ass. Definitely muddled, swapping between so many different characters, psychic visions, and flashbacks. Feels like the show's attention is too divided.
Episode two was a bit better, if only because more happened.
Sense8 an ensemble show, it can't possibly bring its full force at the end of one episode.
Don't forget the time-travelling sideplot that expanded the mythos hugely and only made complete sense in a second episode a whole season after the first. Oh so THAT'S what was going on the whole time!
Just binged watched the whole thing at once and maybe it's because I am just coming off the finale but, at least for my purposes, this is the greatest fucking show.
When they were all jamming out to 4 Non-Blondes I fucking cried. Okay, show, you got me. I'd been singing that song yesterday for some reason, and something about it just twigged me. Yeah, Nomi, get out of that fucking place! Kala, this is the goddamn world, live in it! Sun... you just keep taking that shower. You're good. Capheus really enjoys being a Sensate, and also 4 Non-Blondes.
I also really like some of the non-Sensates. Daniela and Hernando are amazing, and of course Neets... is it wrong that I'm kind of pissed at Wolfgang (Episode 5)
for interrupting Kala's wedding? Her fiance seems kinda awesome.
Seen the first two episodes of Sense8. I'm digging it so far, but I can't help but feel a lot of the main cast is leaning a bit too hard on stereotypes.
The do-gooder cop who must save every life, even if there's a contradiction. Mocked by his former cop father.
The ridiculously handsome hispanic movie star who is desired by every woman, but is also secretly gay.
The transgender woman who has a godawful, almost comic-bookish mother and attends numerous LGBT pride parades.
The Korean girl who is part of a wealthy family but is looked down on for being the female (hinted by the whole "where is your brother, go get us coffee" scene). She also practices yoga, because that's a thing Asian women do.
The British girl who is super into techno and dabbles a bit in drugs. Also she cuts herself, because that's a thing drug-using DJs do.
It's certainly a diverse lineup, but I think its still a bit type-cast.
Regarding Nomi, where do you get "numerous" pride parades from? They're in DC which has a huge one every year. Also her mother is behaving pretty much exactly how some posters have described their parents.
Also Korean business woman doesn't do yoga. In the park it was more akin to tai chi and the trailer showed her doing kick boxing/muay thai.
Seen the first two episodes of Sense8. I'm digging it so far, but I can't help but feel a lot of the main cast is leaning a bit too hard on stereotypes.
The do-gooder cop who must save every life, even if there's a contradiction. Mocked by his former cop father.
The ridiculously handsome hispanic movie star who is desired by every woman, but is also secretly gay.
The transgender woman who has a godawful, almost comic-bookish mother and attends numerous LGBT pride parades.
The Korean girl who is part of a wealthy family but is looked down on for being the female (hinted by the whole "where is your brother, go get us coffee" scene). She also practices yoga, because that's a thing Asian women do.
The British girl who is super into techno and dabbles a bit in drugs. Also she cuts herself, because that's a thing drug-using DJs do.
It's certainly a diverse lineup, but I think its still a bit type-cast.
Regarding Nomi, where do you get "numerous" pride parades from? They're in DC which has a huge one every year. Also her mother is behaving pretty much exactly how some posters have described their parents.
Also Korean business woman doesn't do yoga. In the park it was more akin to tai chi and the trailer showed her doing kick boxing/muay thai.
I may have lost count, but it looked like she attended at least two? Followed by a desire to attend more (though obviously spurred by her girlfriend, who seems to be a regular).
I won't say the mother's behavior isn't accurate, but they certainly want us to hate her guts.
The Korean girl doing martial arts and exercises....is still kind of stereotypical. :P
It's not so much that these portrayals are "incorrect", but rather that they're being played up for televised drama. Or streamed drama, in this case.
The DJ (I don't know any of their names at this point, I'm terrible at that) is Icelandic.
And he's not just a hot, gay Mexican movie star, he's a hot, gay Mexican action star.
I'm pretty sure Sun (ok, I lied) is supposed to be doing Hapkido.
Nomi (maybe I'm better at this than I thought) actually seems to have the best grasp of what's going on, which is impressive given that she hasn't gotten the in-person explanation from anyone yet.
I'm a little disappointed that the person who is sort of putting it all together is the white cop guy. That just seems kind of lazy.
Seen the first two episodes of Sense8. I'm digging it so far, but I can't help but feel a lot of the main cast is leaning a bit too hard on stereotypes.
The do-gooder cop who must save every life, even if there's a contradiction. Mocked by his former cop father.
The ridiculously handsome hispanic movie star who is desired by every woman, but is also secretly gay.
The transgender woman who has a godawful, almost comic-bookish mother and attends numerous LGBT pride parades.
The Korean girl who is part of a wealthy family but is looked down on for being the female (hinted by the whole "where is your brother, go get us coffee" scene). She also practices yoga, because that's a thing Asian women do.
The British girl who is super into techno and dabbles a bit in drugs. Also she cuts herself, because that's a thing drug-using DJs do.
It's certainly a diverse lineup, but I think its still a bit type-cast.
Regarding Nomi, where do you get "numerous" pride parades from? They're in DC which has a huge one every year. Also her mother is behaving pretty much exactly how some posters have described their parents.
Also Korean business woman doesn't do yoga. In the park it was more akin to tai chi and the trailer showed her doing kick boxing/muay thai.
Are you sure they aren't in SF?
It's just, I remember Delores Park/Gay Beach (the park with all the people, which has a hill so pretty definitly isn't the Mall, where you can absolutely fimd edibles) looking a lot like that, in other parts of the episode they show the Golden Gate and Pyramid Building and in later episodes they get a cab to the Castro.
Not disagreeing with your point. If you are queer and don't go to pride in SF its for a reason(like, you don't dig touristy crowd scenes with tens of thousands of people, understable but it is a conscious decision not to go).
Edit: I don't know where they are sitting talking about their first pride with all the white concrete. Which is in the future from the flash backs to the but on the grass, but later pretty danged sure they are in SF cause of the cab thing. And it seems weird that they would have been in SF, went to dc, and went back to SF.
These people holding Nomi have to be on the take, right? The nurse, the orderlies, and certainly the doctor.
I mean, the mom seems like an idiot so she probably believes she really is "helping", but I can't believe any of the others actually believes this is on the up and up.
Just finished the last episode.
The action is really good. I like how they have 3 distinct fighters.
Capheus digs the shit out of mind-traveling to strange new places.
Though I could probably have done with seeing fewer
I think a lot of reviewers are a little put off by the show's politics. I'ma just gonna spoiler this whole thing (I'm up to Episode 5).
The reviewer on Vulture thinks the "reveal" that Nomi is transgendered is "a gross plot twist" and that it's not fair that Nomi is out and proud but Lito is closeted, when the reasons for these things could not be more clear, basically from their first scenes. Like, you really don't see the situational difference between a gay action movie star in Mexico City and a transgendered political blogger in San Francisco? Plus, is it such a "reveal" that Nomi is trans when they cast a trans actress and a lesbian at SF Pride calls her a "tranny" a full episode beforehand (full disclosure, I hadn't read up on the show and didn't know that Jamie Clayton was trans until after the first episode when I consulted the internet)?
I admit that the show is not subtle. Will saving the kiddie gangbanger with the gunshot wound and then almost getting refused medical help at a hospital was a little ridiculous. Capheus's mom having AIDS is a bit on-the-nose. The Hindu monks praying for the death of Kala's future in-laws because they are trying to merge American and Indian ways of life seems a bit unlikely and anti-religion. Nomi's mom is practically a caricature of an evil parent of a trans person (seriously fuck that lady).
It's clear to me, though, that the show is swinging for the fences. It's going big, real big, and, with eight interconnected characters and their respective supporting casts, going for nuance is going to put people off faster than clear, obvious conflicts and set-ups.
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So it's pretty good, then? Like on a scale from The Matrix to Matrix Revolutions, how good is it?
Still seems to be coming together, but the action definitely stepped up at the end there.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Not really, it's the usual interesting ideas but muddled presentation the Wachowskis always deliver. So if you're a fan of their work it's probably pretty good.
That's 3 seasons after the flashback.
Sense8 an ensemble show, it can't possibly bring its full force at the end of one episode.
Turns out it's German and means butcher
Seems appropriate.
or possibly both
It is definitely muddled. But in a way that makes sense? You're bounced back and forth between people's minds and I enjoyed the disorientation. And laughed out loud at hallucination chicken.
Everyone is introduced but not fully explored. You get a decent idea about everyone's situation though. The first episode mainly focuses on the cop, thief, and DJ. I'll probably watch one more episode tonight. It's by no mean amazing but the concept of a shared mind is something I've always loved and this show definitely nails that aspect.
Episode 2
Episode two was a bit better, if only because more happened.
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Anyway, I just got to the end of Episode 3. Fuck. Yes.
I also couldn't stop thinking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FB-gYr49Y
I also really like some of the non-Sensates. Daniela and Hernando are amazing, and of course Neets... is it wrong that I'm kind of pissed at Wolfgang (Episode 5)
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Regarding Nomi, where do you get "numerous" pride parades from? They're in DC which has a huge one every year. Also her mother is behaving pretty much exactly how some posters have described their parents.
Also Korean business woman doesn't do yoga. In the park it was more akin to tai chi and the trailer showed her doing kick boxing/muay thai.
I may have lost count, but it looked like she attended at least two? Followed by a desire to attend more (though obviously spurred by her girlfriend, who seems to be a regular).
I won't say the mother's behavior isn't accurate, but they certainly want us to hate her guts.
The Korean girl doing martial arts and exercises....is still kind of stereotypical. :P
It's not so much that these portrayals are "incorrect", but rather that they're being played up for televised drama. Or streamed drama, in this case.
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I don't know that I could even name a movie where a business woman was a skilled fighter.
I think a lot of those people could be stereotypes if they were developed less but doesn't seen to be the case so far.
And he's not just a hot, gay Mexican movie star, he's a hot, gay Mexican action star.
I'm pretty sure Sun (ok, I lied) is supposed to be doing Hapkido.
Nomi (maybe I'm better at this than I thought) actually seems to have the best grasp of what's going on, which is impressive given that she hasn't gotten the in-person explanation from anyone yet.
I'm a little disappointed that the person who is sort of putting it all together is the white cop guy. That just seems kind of lazy.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
It meandered a bit but the last half was fantastic.
Are you sure they aren't in SF?
It's just, I remember Delores Park/Gay Beach (the park with all the people, which has a hill so pretty definitly isn't the Mall, where you can absolutely fimd edibles) looking a lot like that, in other parts of the episode they show the Golden Gate and Pyramid Building and in later episodes they get a cab to the Castro.
Not disagreeing with your point. If you are queer and don't go to pride in SF its for a reason(like, you don't dig touristy crowd scenes with tens of thousands of people, understable but it is a conscious decision not to go).
Edit: I don't know where they are sitting talking about their first pride with all the white concrete. Which is in the future from the flash backs to the but on the grass, but later pretty danged sure they are in SF cause of the cab thing. And it seems weird that they would have been in SF, went to dc, and went back to SF.
I am there now.
And this show has been fantastic so far. Maybe not for everyone but it has clicked perfectly for me.
I mean, the mom seems like an idiot so she probably believes she really is "helping", but I can't believe any of the others actually believes this is on the up and up.
The action is really good. I like how they have 3 distinct fighters.
Capheus digs the shit out of mind-traveling to strange new places.
Though I could probably have done with seeing fewer
I admit that the show is not subtle. Will saving the kiddie gangbanger with the gunshot wound and then almost getting refused medical help at a hospital was a little ridiculous. Capheus's mom having AIDS is a bit on-the-nose. The Hindu monks praying for the death of Kala's future in-laws because they are trying to merge American and Indian ways of life seems a bit unlikely and anti-religion. Nomi's mom is practically a caricature of an evil parent of a trans person (seriously fuck that lady).
It's clear to me, though, that the show is swinging for the fences. It's going big, real big, and, with eight interconnected characters and their respective supporting casts, going for nuance is going to put people off faster than clear, obvious conflicts and set-ups.