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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Keith wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Speaking of which, my 2 year old insisted on sitting in my lap and having me read The Trial of Jean Grey to him because he saw me reading it. A young comic book fan is in the making! Note, I made up words as I read along because it's a little too heavy for a 2 year old.

    On that note, any suggestions for young kids?

    Tiny Titans

    @DoctorArch bone, herobear and the kid, owly

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    I think Bone is a bit too old, but I requested Mouse Guard from the library.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

    Whoa.


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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Like the first trade of Bone is perfect for anyone.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    It gets scary later on though

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Bone is absolutely not appropriate for a 2 year old

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I should get around to reading / finishing Bone. The only times I tried reading it were on a plane and it was not easy to read the One Volume Edition

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    mouse guard is cool but it is definitely super violent

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    The Power Pack minis with Gurihiru on art are real good all-ages stuff

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  • masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Yeah a hardcore 6 year old maybe, an 8 year old for sure

    But give that book to a kid too early and there will be nightmares

  • cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    mouse guard is cool but it is definitely super violent

    I haven't read it in years, I don't recall like gory or anything but just like sword fights and animated animal battles. Totally a discretionary call.

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    Mini Marvels and Lumberjanes are good choices, too

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  • hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    I read all of Bone over several months of babysitting for a couple that had a ridiculous comics collection. Probably wouldn't have thought to read it if they hadn't told me to.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I haven't read it yet and also the 1st issue literally just came out so it wouldn't be in trades for quite some time, but would Giant-Size Little Marvel be good for that?

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    mouse guard is cool but it is definitely super violent

    I haven't read it in years, I don't recall like gory or anything but just like sword fights and animated animal battles. Totally a discretionary call.

    one of the main antagonists is an owl with a perpetually bleeding eye, there's lots of blood and death

  • cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    mouse guard is cool but it is definitely super violent

    I haven't read it in years, I don't recall like gory or anything but just like sword fights and animated animal battles. Totally a discretionary call.

    one of the main antagonists is an owl with a perpetually bleeding eye, there's lots of blood and death

    I'm definitely going to have to see which I picked up, I am drawing a huge blank haha, did they do FBCD printing? I always wanted to check it out more but one of those things that fell off my radar.

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    mouse guard is cool but it is definitely super violent

    I haven't read it in years, I don't recall like gory or anything but just like sword fights and animated animal battles. Totally a discretionary call.

    one of the main antagonists is an owl with a perpetually bleeding eye, there's lots of blood and death

    I'm definitely going to have to see which I picked up, I am drawing a huge blank haha, did they do FBCD printing? I always wanted to check it out more but one of those things that fell off my radar.

    I am not sure. It's beautiful though, I love the artist's style
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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    I don't know how to describe it, but the style feels incredibly "real," like not cartoony at all. Like I would say that without having this specific experience myself that Mouse Guard could be used for kids who you feel are ready to take on those sorts of rougher content to have a kind of "here's some real shit" moment, when before they've only really interacted with one style.

    like in that panel, there are several great touches about the body language of the snake and the mouse, as well as the storytelling going on without any words. The snake's eyes are black in the first two panels, and he's writhing like you would expect a snake to move when he's attacking, but then in the last two his eyes are gray and his body is still writhing but it looks lifeless. It's really fantastic.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular

    boy i wonder if this is actually real

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »

    A lot of people went into making DCAU what it was

    Bruce Timm has some extremely questionable opinions and kind of always has

    I still largely like him tho

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    The DCAU Superman wasn't saintly. They deliberately set out to make him not 100% heroic to keep the stories interesting. In the Justice League cartoon The Flash took Superman's place in 'the moral spectrum' (or whatever, the word is eluding me at the moment).

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    The DCAU Superman wasn't saintly. They deliberately set out to make him not 100% heroic to keep the stories interesting. In the Justice League cartoon The Flash took Superman's place in 'the moral spectrum' (or whatever, the word is eluding me at the moment).
    You don't have to be saintly to not kill people

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    It really bugs me how bloodthirsty people are that we can't have even a single hero who believes in not killing people. At least not without everyone losing their shit over it.

    Everyone wants to be the guy to make superman "edgy" and " real" by having him kill. it seems.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    The DCAU Superman wasn't saintly. They deliberately set out to make him not 100% heroic to keep the stories interesting. In the Justice League cartoon The Flash took Superman's place in 'the moral spectrum' (or whatever, the word is eluding me at the moment).
    You don't have to be saintly to not kill people
    It helps.
    edit- plus, Superman kills Doomsday in the movie anyway.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzSyyi_Pqyw

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Doesn't Superman always kill Doomsday though?

    I am pretty sure he straight up ripped him in two at the start of Doomed.

  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    My problem with pretty much every "Superman kills X" scenarios is they always try to play off of some kind of No-Win situation, without considering that for Superman, a No-Win situation has to be magnified by about a million percent.

    Man of Steel particularly fails at that point, as has been discussed many times. Superman has so many ways to save that one family--and even if he didn't, what's four more lives when thousands are already gone?

    Conversely, Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow is maybe the only time I'd say it was pulled off.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    doomsday isn't really a person anymore, or at least not when it first came out. In the comic he kills him too unless I remember incorrectly, they both basically fall down next to each other.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    He kills him but in a very comic book-y not super violent way

    Bruce Timm wanted him to snap Doomsday's neck

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    He kills him but in a very comic book-y not super violent way

    Bruce Timm wanted him to snap Doomsday's neck

    yes that's true

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    IIRC, Doomsday was just a mindless monster to start with. As time went on, he became intelligent, but that also basically made him less wildly savage, so Superman was able to defeat him without killing him at that point.

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    all I remember from death of superman of that fight was superman doing the super oldschool comic expository inner monologue about how he finally starts to hurt doomsday by targeting his bone claw things

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    which, honestly, you'd think that the parts of the monster that were sticking out might be worth your attention from, you know, the start.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Yeah, neck snapping vs body slamming Doomsday from orbit is kind of a no brainer choice. Why would you ever choose the first when the second is the cooler option. It would have been dumb to do it that way.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Here's the page from Doomed last year; obviously it's kind of a spoiler if you were planning on reading it.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Here's the page from Doomed last year; obviously it's kind of a spoiler if you were planning on reading it.
    This is dumb

    like even if Doomsday is a mindless beast or whatever that's a needlessly violent way for Superman to put him down


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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Its extra weird coming from a guy who helmed a series where superman lobotomizing doomsday with his heat vision was considered A HUGE FUCKING RED FLAG that supes had gone evil

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  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    The first Gods and Monsters "episode" came out.

    It's certainly "darker and grittier" and NSFW:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpu6yPAFHrs

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Plus:
    If Superman can rip Doomday in half then I don't believe that Doomsday could ever kill him.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Here's the page from Doomed last year; obviously it's kind of a spoiler if you were planning on reading it.
    This is dumb

    like even if Doomsday is a mindless beast or whatever that's a needlessly violent way for Superman to put him down


    Some more background:
    Doomsday actually turns out to be a viral weapon that's triggered when you burst him open like a piñata. They also made him extremely radioactive so that people died or would burst into flames even if he was miles away.

    Keep in mind this story was somehow a big success for DC that outsold their expectations, and that it was also helmed primarily by Greg Pak and Charles Soule, although Scott Lobdell also wrote a couple issues and DC spent years planning it at the editorial level. So it's sort of dumb, but people really liked it for whatever reason.

    Also it allowed Pak to do a really need trick at the end and make the whole thing feel metatextual, as if Superman had been battling the New 52 storytelling style the whole time instead of just Doomsday.

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