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    HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    I kind of feel bad that we're still dependent on Bruce Timm after all these years.

    That James Tucker, Michael Jelenic, and Greg Weisman haven't taken his place is more a failing of the market for that kind of animation than a failing on the part of those creators. We really need a new venue for action cartoons with real all-ages sensibilities and mature storytelling. I bet if Netflix decided to get into that market, they'd be extremely pleased with the results. Without relying on actual advertisements, it doesn't matter who is watching the thing as long as people are watching to begin with.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    One bright day a tiny baby Bruce Timm clutched a crayon and drew a tit, thus a career was forged

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Did Timm ever draw cheesecake of the DC characters? I thought it was just, like, women

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    I thought he sold a book specifically of DC character cheesecake.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    I thought he sold a book specifically of DC character cheesecake.

    Like, as some kind of frosting on top of it?

    The man must be an accomplished baker

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Did Timm ever draw cheesecake of the DC characters? I thought it was just, like, women

    oh MY yes

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Did Timm ever draw cheesecake of the DC characters? I thought it was just, like, women

    I wasn't kidding about Bruce Timm being way ahead of the curve re: clown fucking

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Timm's done different levels of cheesecake ranging from just posing in costume to softcore nudity. As far as I know, owned characters stuck to the former.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    One bright day a tiny baby Bruce Timm clutched a crayon and drew a tit, thus a career was forged

    I feel like this describes a lot of people.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I would put forth that Bruce Timm has an unusually high affinity for tits even amongst comics artists

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    hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    I thought he sold a book specifically of DC character cheesecake.

    Don't know if there's a separate book just for those characters, but there are a bunch of cheesecakey/pinup style DC ladies in his Naughty and Nice book. I'm pretty sure none of them are drawn nude in it, though.

    There's also a hell of a lot of nudity and porn in that book but as far as I remember those are just nondescript women. The DC/Marvel stuff of that nature definitely exists online.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Spider-man didn't have a 'strict' no kill code, kinda with how he 'let' GG impale himself on his glider.

    That kinda bothers me the same way batman's "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" thing from Batman Begins does.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Spider-man didn't have a 'strict' no kill code, kinda with how he 'let' GG impale himself on his glider.

    That kinda bothers me the same way batman's "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" thing from Batman Begins does.

    events from movies aren't really canon to the characters though?

    also I question whether he "let" that happen, or by the time he avoided being impaled himself, it was too late to stop the glider from hitting Osborn?

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    FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2015
    As I recall, in the comics, Green Goblin's death it was not remotely intentional on Spider-Man's part. He dodged out of the way of the glider instinctively, and Osborn got himself killed.

    Also, as far as Bruce Timm goes, it's not like he didn't inject his cheesecake into the DCAU. There are quite a number of prominent female characters in those shows who constantly wear very short mini-skirts, for example. Lois Lane, Mercy, Maggie Sawyer. And there's a bunch of sexually charged stuff with Harley.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Spider-man didn't have a 'strict' no kill code, kinda with how he 'let' GG impale himself on his glider.

    Yeah I'm still kinda sore about that

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Spider-man didn't have a 'strict' no kill code, kinda with how he 'let' GG impale himself on his glider.

    That kinda bothers me the same way batman's "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" thing from Batman Begins does.

    events from movies aren't really canon to the characters though?

    also I question whether he "let" that happen, or by the time he avoided being impaled himself, it was too late to stop the glider from hitting Osborn?

    No, in the original comics, he senses it coming and then waits and dodges at the last second.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
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    This is not Spider-man killing someone.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I can't see that image.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    what i mostly want from bruce timm is for him to be able to draw more than one female body type

    like here's harley quinn, the joker's sexy sidekick, sure sure fine

    now could we get a female character whose silhouette is as distinct from harley's as the joker's is from batman

    i mean i get that it would make it more difficult for you to masturbate to her but don't you already have someone for that

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I can't see that image.

    Well I can tell you what its not an image of.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, that Gods and Monsters video was so bad on so many levels that I just want to go watch JLU again.

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    hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    Yeah the body-type he uses for women is just way too similar. Hourglass shape on a slender frame with the hip popped to one side while making a coy face.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    There's nothing wrong with drawing straight up porn

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    what i mostly want from bruce timm is for him to be able to draw more than one female body type

    like here's harley quinn, the joker's sexy sidekick, sure sure fine

    now could we get a female character whose silhouette is as distinct from harley's as the joker's is from batman

    i mean i get that it would make it more difficult for you to masturbate to her but don't you already have someone for that

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    Moy's dealer site has a decent variety of Timm originals. Note - some of it is NSFW!

    http://www.albertmoy.com/ArtistGalleryRoom.asp?ArtistId=465

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    what i mostly want from bruce timm is for him to be able to draw more than one female body type

    like here's harley quinn, the joker's sexy sidekick, sure sure fine

    now could we get a female character whose silhouette is as distinct from harley's as the joker's is from batman

    i mean i get that it would make it more difficult for you to masturbate to her but don't you already have someone for that

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    Literally one other character doesn't really amount to much given how much DCAU there is

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    Check the linked page, there's a ton of Timm variety there.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    :winky:

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Well then he should have done that on the DCAU

    Like I get that animation is expensive and stock models streamline thing but literally everyone being either barrel chested supermen or curvy pin-up models is probably my biggest complaint about the series

    Wait no there was also the stock short skinny guy model they used for Jimmy and Snapper

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Actually, check out the link I posted earlier and try figure out how the drawing matches up with the title "Giant-Sized Kung Fu Bible Stories.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
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    Maybe adapting all those Frank Miller stories finally just broke Bruce Timm. Also it's hard to say that this is what Timm looks like unchecked because Alan Burnett, the third part of the DCAU with Timm and Dini, is also heavily involved in the Gods and Monsters stuff.

    Also these mini-episodes have been renewed for a second season next year already. There are also no other DC Direct-to-Video movies announced so far.

    He is still working for WB. It's not like he can just say that MoS was crap even if he did hate it.

    Yeah, but here's an interview with him on Kotaku today where he basically says he doesn't understand why Superheroes still have no-kill rules in 2015, when the audience for comics has gotten older. It seems like he feels that would be the legitimate progression of superhero stories, to revoke that rule.
    I mean the only superheroes that still have no kill rules are the ones for whom its an ingrained part of the character.

    This has me thinking. Which superheroes in the comics still have a pretty strong no-kill rule? Superman, Batman, Shazam, and Flash all spring to mind on the DC side. Daredevil and Spider-Man on the Marvel side. Green Lantern and Captain America used to have no-kill rules, but discarded them in recent years.

    I'm sure I'm forgetting many, but those are the ones that readily come to mind.

    I'm not sure Daredevil really counts. He doesn't have a "no kill rule" so much as a "wanting to avoid damning his soul". He really wants to kill some people, and his arc is more about him wanting to avoid becoming like them by giving in. However he will totally call on some of the biblical "cheats" if he's pushed far enough.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Oh, it's this.

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    There's also the Furies and Granny Goodness but I agree with you in general

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Ya'll, Groot #1 is super good.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Oh, it's this.

    Ur-ursula chan...

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    The think tank also includes Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman, Ready Player One adapter Zak Penn, Amazing Spider-Man 2 writer Jeff Pinkner, Iron Man writers Art Marcum and Matt Holloway, Short Circuit remake writer Lindsey Beer, and Shut In writer Christina Hodson.
    Sounds like a fun and rewarding process!

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Maybe adapting all those Frank Miller stories finally just broke Bruce Timm. Also it's hard to say that this is what Timm looks like unchecked because Alan Burnett, the third part of the DCAU with Timm and Dini, is also heavily involved in the Gods and Monsters stuff.

    Also these mini-episodes have been renewed for a second season next year already. There are also no other DC Direct-to-Video movies announced so far.

    He is still working for WB. It's not like he can just say that MoS was crap even if he did hate it.

    Yeah, but here's an interview with him on Kotaku today where he basically says he doesn't understand why Superheroes still have no-kill rules in 2015, when the audience for comics has gotten older. It seems like he feels that would be the legitimate progression of superhero stories, to revoke that rule.
    I mean the only superheroes that still have no kill rules are the ones for whom its an ingrained part of the character.

    This has me thinking. Which superheroes in the comics still have a pretty strong no-kill rule? Superman, Batman, Shazam, and Flash all spring to mind on the DC side. Daredevil and Spider-Man on the Marvel side. Green Lantern and Captain America used to have no-kill rules, but discarded them in recent years.

    I'm sure I'm forgetting many, but those are the ones that readily come to mind.

    Cap's no kill rule was a retcon, though. And a really fucking stupid one.

    You look at the golden age, he was leaving Nazi bodies everywhere. Silver age, he was more restrained, but if a Hydra agent or a commie spy went and threw themselves in front of where he was machinegunning, well, these things happen.

    I mean, don't get me wrong. Give Cap two options, one with a bodycount, and one without, he's picking door two. But when there's no way to complete a mission without some people dead, he'll sigh and do the job without moping overmuch.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Marvel has dropped the AKA from AKA Jessica Jones, it is officially just Jessica Jones

    Which I am honestly surprised they hadn't done earlier

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel has dropped the AKA from AKA Jessica Jones, it is officially just Jessica Jones

    Which I am honestly surprised they hadn't done earlier

    Shame they couldn't actually use Alias, what with that already being used by a hit (?) TV show some years ago

    Jessica Jones is real limp as a title

    Reminds me of when Disney was bringing out John Carter of Mars and then dropped the "of Mars" part and just had no idea how to sell that movie to anyone

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