So there's a third faction...where's it been hiding?
I would guess the Deep Core. Star Wars lore is that the Deep Core is very hazardous to travel, with Hyperspace routes changing all the time, making it impossible to create any kind of accurate map of the place. It would also allow the 3rd faction to strike the Republic capital with their first move and then move on to crush the Empire.
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So there's a third faction...where's it been hiding?
Another galaxy? Wherever, really. The empire was 'elsewhere' before the initial events of TOR and they were strong enough to sack the republics capital
Yeah, it's a galaxy. The old Legends continuity (which TOR is a part of) states that during what might be called the Golden Age (which was the first few hundred years of the thousand years leading up to the prequels), there were a million worlds in the Republic.
Assume the Galaxy Far Far Away is the same size as our own. One liberal estimate posits there could be twenty billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way. There is ample space for an entire star empire to hide (which is how the whole storyline of TOR was set up to begin with).
That all being said, I have no idea why so many factions seem to be constantly competing for this section specifically, considering it includes such gems as hoth, tatooine and alderaan.
I suppose the Dark Prince is the kid in white that got jacked up.
And the other side is the kid in black/Daddy emperor side that may or may not be Vitatae/his master/something.
Didn't the kid in black die? If you look here, it looks like Arcann is the surviving brother and Valkorian, the emperor/dad.
Anyway, good to see BioWare using Star Wars to explore themes new not only to themselves but also the franchise. Weighty, novel directions that neither they nor Star Wars have ever covered before. I'm talking, of course, about... Daddy Issues.
Wonder what the emperors force ghost...thing is doing, or is his story tied up in a raid, I'll admit I haven't been paying much attention since around the release of shadow of revan.
The old emperor is still unalive and kicking. He eated Ziost and now no one knows where he is.
It'll be interesting to see how they handle the transition from the old setting to the new. I'm hoping that they do things WoW-style, and start adding events in-game that are part of the story transition. Being TOR, though, it's more like that the first 9 chapters we get on Oct. 27 are all about disposing of the old plot, and we won't see any new plot till next year.
Although, weren't the leaks earlier shown to have several notable characters make it though, like Lana? So the time jump doesn't seem like it's THAT bad, more like a mechanism that tells us 'why didn't we go down swinging?
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Yeah, this whole Fallen Empire thing seems like it's got some [really cool stuff, I just hope we don't time skip after it
Like, freeze/stasis us once we've fought to the last man, show us holding the line with our companions as they each fall one-by-one
oh man, I'd love a Mass Effect 2 situation where everyone thinks we're dead, only for us to show up again and re-recruit all our old buddies.
As long as I don't have re-recruit Skadge.
But yeah, imagine the touching reunion scene between the Inquisitor and Khem Val. Really curious about what they're going to do with the old companions.
Yeah, this whole Fallen Empire thing seems like it's got some [really cool stuff, I just hope we don't time skip after it
Like, freeze/stasis us once we've fought to the last man, show us holding the line with our companions as they each fall one-by-one
oh man, I'd love a Mass Effect 2 situation where everyone thinks we're dead, only for us to show up again and re-recruit all our old buddies.
I actually like them to take a hike, and have us go whole hog with the new roster. OR, better yet, we can recruit the character we WANT, while ditching the ones we don't.
And yeah, it's definitely refreshing to see that they're kind of flexing their KOTOR muscles with this one
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New time-passed customizations for everyone that are the default face and skin tone but with like different hair and scars and cybernetics (because that's how you tell it's the future).
Yeah, this whole Fallen Empire thing seems like it's got some [really cool stuff, I just hope we don't time skip after it
Like, freeze/stasis us once we've fought to the last man, show us holding the line with our companions as they each fall one-by-one
oh man, I'd love a Mass Effect 2 situation where everyone thinks we're dead, only for us to show up again and re-recruit all our old buddies.
As long as I don't have re-recruit Skadge.
But yeah, imagine the touching reunion scene between the Inquisitor and Khem Val. Really curious about what they're going to do with the old companions.
Well lets see.
They have to save Blizz, Risha, Guss, and T-7 more or less as is. Mako and Vette grew up in the interim and return as more hardened, less doe-eyed versions of themselves.
Obviously Kaliyo shows up at some point when you least expect her.
"Hey, agent."
All blase and shit.
Everyone else though really died in a shootout. Notice that all the consular companions and all of the apprentice companions died in the shootout. This is intentional.
I'm probably biased by the fact that since all the companion romances were heterosexual, I'm not especially attached to any of them. Some of them were fun but eh.
The idea that SWTOR's story focus could be coming back in a big way is exciting. All of this outlander seems to be meshing the story into one package though, even removing the bipolar Republic/Imperial sides. I mean, obviously its way too early to tell. I guess as long as it's good 1 continuous story is better than 8 amazing but abandoned ones. I really want to come back to this game in a big way, but I think I'm going to sit on the fence until we see what these chapters turn out to contain.
Cautiously optimistic.
(and yeah, I'd love to see Quinn's grave, hear of Corso's accidental airlock 'defenestration', and Skadge....well. Skadge can be alive so long as I can rewrite ever picking him up from the hell-hole I hope he's forever trapped in. I should hate him but really I just never wanted anything to do with him).
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I'm probably biased by the fact that since all the companion romances were heterosexual, I'm not especially attached to any of them. Some of them were fun but eh.
And in that light, it's surprising that Lana seems to be a companion but there's no mention of Theron.
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I was thinking actually thinking about this yesterday, and aside from the Agent, the Smuggler, and the Bounty Hunter...there should be casualties. I can see some Agents keeping a low enough profile and staying away from the direct fighting, and a non-Mandalorian, non-loyalist Hunter getting contracted to take out high-level bad guys but otherwise sitting things out (or even getting paid by the bad guys to sit things out entirely after a few encounters with one of the few non-Force-sensitives bad enough to take a Darth out one-on-one), and the Smuggler just, y'know, not fighting at all except when punching through a blockade.
But the Knight, the Consular, the Trooper, the Warrior, and maybe even the Inquisitor are the best of the best, the last best hopes, and they should be on the front lines. And assuming they all make it out (big assumption), some of their people would probably die as a result.
Hmm, now I have to start speculating what companion characters would best serve the story by dying.
And this is all assuming they don't add the option to the class stories to let the characters die or be killed to begin with.
No problem, Fong. And believe me, the Moff's situation hits a little close to home. It's just that unless a scene is trying to be purposefully offensive or distasteful, I usually focus on the humor it's trying to present first.
My grandmother was in the bonus stages of alzheimer's when she died, but that bit didn't make me feel bad.
She also didn't have people executed while trying to remember where she lived.
It didn't make me feel bad either. But it didn't make me chuckle either. I just said it's not universal humor, I didn't say it was wildly offensive or left me sobbing in my cheerios. :-p
So far, my favourite Corso Moment™ was when I was using my ship's holo-terminal, in an otherwise empty room, to talk to Darmas Pollaran. I hit the flirt option and then suddenly Corso is at the door "defending my honour".
Unless you only play one gender character, Smuggler would be my #1 suggestion for going male for people who are otherwise inclined to play female characters.
The dudesmuggler voice is a lot better than the femsmuggler, and as far as romance goes well, Risha or Corso. That's not much of a contest.
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I would guess the Deep Core. Star Wars lore is that the Deep Core is very hazardous to travel, with Hyperspace routes changing all the time, making it impossible to create any kind of accurate map of the place. It would also allow the 3rd faction to strike the Republic capital with their first move and then move on to crush the Empire.
Yeah, it's a galaxy. The old Legends continuity (which TOR is a part of) states that during what might be called the Golden Age (which was the first few hundred years of the thousand years leading up to the prequels), there were a million worlds in the Republic.
Assume the Galaxy Far Far Away is the same size as our own. One liberal estimate posits there could be twenty billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way. There is ample space for an entire star empire to hide (which is how the whole storyline of TOR was set up to begin with).
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Didn't the kid in black die? If you look here, it looks like Arcann is the surviving brother and Valkorian, the emperor/dad.
Anyway, good to see BioWare using Star Wars to explore themes new not only to themselves but also the franchise. Weighty, novel directions that neither they nor Star Wars have ever covered before. I'm talking, of course, about... Daddy Issues.
Oh, wait...
It'll be interesting to see how they handle the transition from the old setting to the new. I'm hoping that they do things WoW-style, and start adding events in-game that are part of the story transition. Being TOR, though, it's more like that the first 9 chapters we get on Oct. 27 are all about disposing of the old plot, and we won't see any new plot till next year.
Like, freeze/stasis us once we've fought to the last man, show us holding the line with our companions as they each fall one-by-one
oh man, I'd love a Mass Effect 2 situation where everyone thinks we're dead, only for us to show up again and re-recruit all our old buddies.
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As long as I don't have re-recruit Skadge.
But yeah, imagine the touching reunion scene between the Inquisitor and Khem Val. Really curious about what they're going to do with the old companions.
Dark like Star Wars always has been!
The really dark stuff just gets overshadowed by the cutesy-ass bits.
Oh that and the PT bungling all the dark stuff so bad it became farcial.
I actually like them to take a hike, and have us go whole hog with the new roster. OR, better yet, we can recruit the character we WANT, while ditching the ones we don't.
Well lets see.
They have to save Blizz, Risha, Guss, and T-7 more or less as is. Mako and Vette grew up in the interim and return as more hardened, less doe-eyed versions of themselves.
Everyone else died in a shootout.
"MY MONSTER!"
"Enough of this reunion. I hunger to devour your enemies."
Obviously Kaliyo shows up at some point when you least expect her.
"Hey, agent."
All blase and shit.
Everyone else though really died in a shootout. Notice that all the consular companions and all of the apprentice companions died in the shootout. This is intentional.
And/or for some of them to have died, or even for you to kill them.
If they kill off anyone who is romancible that would be dumb. You can deal with my husbando surviving, thanks.
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Cautiously optimistic.
(and yeah, I'd love to see Quinn's grave, hear of Corso's accidental airlock 'defenestration', and Skadge....well. Skadge can be alive so long as I can rewrite ever picking him up from the hell-hole I hope he's forever trapped in. I should hate him but really I just never wanted anything to do with him).
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And in that light, it's surprising that Lana seems to be a companion but there's no mention of Theron.
But the Knight, the Consular, the Trooper, the Warrior, and maybe even the Inquisitor are the best of the best, the last best hopes, and they should be on the front lines. And assuming they all make it out (big assumption), some of their people would probably die as a result.
Hmm, now I have to start speculating what companion characters would best serve the story by dying.
And this is all assuming they don't add the option to the class stories to let the characters die or be killed to begin with.
(At the risk of being a total wet blanket I'm just going to throw out that mental illness/dementia isn't necessarily a universal humor)
I'm glad you enjoyed it though, and I do mean that.
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She also didn't have people executed while trying to remember where she lived.
It didn't make me feel bad either. But it didn't make me chuckle either. I just said it's not universal humor, I didn't say it was wildly offensive or left me sobbing in my cheerios. :-p
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So far, my favourite Corso Moment™ was when I was using my ship's holo-terminal, in an otherwise empty room, to talk to Darmas Pollaran. I hit the flirt option and then suddenly Corso is at the door "defending my honour".
It was ridiculous.
The dudesmuggler voice is a lot better than the femsmuggler, and as far as romance goes well, Risha or Corso. That's not much of a contest.