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[Nier and/or Automata] Glory to humanity (and the anime)

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Akilae wrote: »
    I think I've hit the first major plot point in the desert. That former apartment complex thing, and I'm hit with a sudden sense of... well...

    (Possible plot spoilers?)
    Something like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

    All those robot having their orgy and proclaiming love and whatnot, and here comes two bloodthirsty androids crashing their party.
    Nothing the machines do means anything, you're in the clear.

    For the glory of Mankind!

    Rainfall
  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Ending E spoilers:
    The boss names are showing up in Angelic on my new playthrough now that I've sacrificed my save.

    Is there... more?
    E:Apparently that's how it always is for 2B, never mind me.

    Rainfall on
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Ending E spoilers:
    The boss names are showing up in Angelic on my new playthrough now that I've sacrificed my save.

    Is there... more?
    2B's route? you don't see translated boss names until 9s.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
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    desert boss down on hard

    i've already died more than i did in the entirety of normal oh my god this is ridiculous

    Elendil on
  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    Heads up for those playing on the pee-cee: an enterprising hacker released a fix that, among other things, fixes the fullscreen rendering resolution issue. It also contains an alternative framelimiter that may or may not make a difference for you (it does seem less stuttery to me anyway).

    http://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/

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  • CorpekataCorpekata Registered User regular
    There's also a movie fix out there supposedly. Haven't tried it yet because the manual method looks annoying and the "here's my files" method means a large download and the guy's still uploading copies:

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=887370335

    Can tolerate 30 fps 900p videos, but the judder on them on PC was really hard to take.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    So if one was to choose between a regular non-pro PS4 and playing the PC port on a solid gaming PC with a controller which version of the game would be the better experience?

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  • DacDac Registered User regular
    ... PC. Obviously.

    I mean jeez you can even plug a PS4 controller into your PC if that's important to you.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I've heard the PC Port has some terrible texture pop in problems, memory leak problems and weird frame rate issues with the cutscenes.

    Namely these: https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/600scm/nier_automata_pc_issues_megathread/

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I've heard the PC Port has some terrible texture pop in problems, memory leak problems and weird frame rate issues with the cutscenes.

    I'm about 15 hours into the game and I've been playing it at 1440p, maxed settings, and it looks and runs fine. I mean, it is capped at 60fps (30 in cutscenes), so that may be a problem for some people for whatever reason.

    I can't say that I've noticed any pop-in or memory leaks.

    The only issue I know of for certain is the 1080p upscaling thing, but that doesn't affect 1440p so I don't care. :lol:

    Edit: oh, from that reddit thread I have seen this one:
    "Intermittent Mouse Cursor: mouse flashes in and out randomly during game play."

    Once in a while after loading a save the mouse cursor will just be stuck in the middle of the screen for a minute or two. And if I go in and out of the Steam overlay a bunch, sometimes the cursor pops back on the screen and I have to move it off to one side until it goes away.

    Pixelated Pixie on
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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    The only performance issues on PS4 I've noticed are occasional frame rate stuttering in the overworld. You can probably get significantly better performance on PC, but it sounds like you'll have to work at it a little bit.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    The only performance issues on PS4 I've noticed are occasional frame rate stuttering in the overworld. You can probably get significantly better performance on PC, but it sounds like you'll have to work at it a little bit.

    I haven't noticed anything but then I'm terrible at noticing that.

    But are you sure you're not mixing that up with the way she trips through all the bushes? :P

  • CorpekataCorpekata Registered User regular
    The texture pop in is caused by the AA and AO settings conflicting with each other. Just turn one off. AA probably because the AO includes some post processing that seems to help with jaggies anwyay, and it's easier to inject external AA if you need it.

    The cut scene judder issue is the big killer for me given the story focus. I've downloaded that mod to fix it but haven't encountered a lengthy enough cut scene to tell if it worked or not yet.

    Zxerol
  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    The only performance issues on PS4 I've noticed are occasional frame rate stuttering in the overworld. You can probably get significantly better performance on PC, but it sounds like you'll have to work at it a little bit.

    I haven't noticed anything but then I'm terrible at noticing that.

    But are you sure you're not mixing that up with the way she trips through all the bushes? :P

    Nah there's def slowdown on PS4. I'm also terrible at noticing that and am one of those folks that can't tell 60fps from 30 but I've noticed the slowdown. Now it still doesn't bother me even slightly but it's there.

  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    Corpekata wrote: »
    The texture pop in is caused by the AA and AO settings conflicting with each other. Just turn one off. AA probably because the AO includes some post processing that seems to help with jaggies anwyay, and it's easier to inject external AA if you need it.

    That would be why I haven't noticed it then. I don't use the in-game AA. :)

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    Any recommendations on which weapon to buy first at the resistance camp? Ancient Overlord looks to be really good with the +Crit after upgrading, but would having two short swords be less than ideal?

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Iron Pipe is best weapon. Don't need anything fancy.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Cormac wrote: »
    Any recommendations on which weapon to buy first at the resistance camp? Ancient Overlord looks to be really good with the +Crit after upgrading, but would having two short swords be less than ideal?
    two short swords seems pretty strong. lots of potential dps.

    aside from the crit bonus, ancient overlord also gets bullet rupture at rank 4, and that's a really strong ability in the late game.

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    The AA in this game is actually MSAA which is a performance killer. I turned off AA and once I remember to ill downsample it for those silky smooth edges

  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    So I picked this up on the PC over the weekend. Normally, I don't like games like this; the last game I played that is sort of similar (I guess?) is Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.

    I played through the "prologue" last night, and it was fun... but I can't help but have some questions. I don't think these are specific to this game, but just general advice questions:

    1. How does "dodge" work? Like, I press RT and she moves fast. I assume it's timing based; do I just hit it at the right time and take no damage?
    2. I spent a lot of time using LT/RB to use the range attacks, especially on the bosses. It feels like I was doing it wrong?

    I always feel so awkward playing a game like "Nier" because I never know really what's going on. I know that's probably be design but there's so many mechanics and the game keeps switching modes and camera angles on you to start that it's all a bit overwhelming. I'm hoping that it explains things a bit better as I play?

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    So I picked this up on the PC over the weekend. Normally, I don't like games like this; the last game I played that is sort of similar (I guess?) is Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.

    I played through the "prologue" last night, and it was fun... but I can't help but have some questions. I don't think these are specific to this game, but just general advice questions:

    1. How does "dodge" work? Like, I press RT and she moves fast. I assume it's timing based; do I just hit it at the right time and take no damage?
    2. I spent a lot of time using LT/RB to use the range attacks, especially on the bosses. It feels like I was doing it wrong?

    I always feel so awkward playing a game like "Nier" because I never know really what's going on. I know that's probably be design but there's so many mechanics and the game keeps switching modes and camera angles on you to start that it's all a bit overwhelming. I'm hoping that it explains things a bit better as I play?

    Dodge just dodges in the direction you push. If you time it right against an impending attack, you'll go into sort of a matrix mode and time will slow, then you can follow up with a counter, depending on which button you press. If you didn't dodge an attack, it just functions as an evade movement in a particular direction. And yes, you move faster after using it, so it's useful in open world areas to move faster.

    In the early game, your range attacks aren't that powerful. You'll always do more damage with your weapon attacks. Doesn't mean your ranged attacks aren't useful, especially when destroying projectiles shot at you.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    When you dodge with perfect timing you get an animation confirmation and a counter attack that allows you to air juggle or kick something really far (depends on the weapons I think). RB and LB are your range attack and there's no real reason not to abuse then AFAIK.

  • CorpekataCorpekata Registered User regular
    Tap RT to dodge at the last moment before an attack and 2b will "Split" into 4 flashy images nullify the attack and allow a unique follow up attack depending on what you hit after. Like using the pod attack will do a powerful shotgun blast, using melee from a short sword will attempt a launch attack, etc.

    There's a handful of bosses that yeah, during certain phases you're just gonna be spamming shots at them, though typically most will have a "time to melee me" phase too.

  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    Thanks guys. Yeah, I stopped playing right after
    The giant construction crane thing? In the water?

    So I haven't had time to full explore the game yet so I'm sure more will be revealed. I just get nervous that, not playing these types of games, I'm playing them "wrong."

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Thanks guys. Yeah, I stopped playing right after
    The giant construction crane thing? In the water?

    So I haven't had time to full explore the game yet so I'm sure more will be revealed. I just get nervous that, not playing these types of games, I'm playing them "wrong."

    If you didn't manually save, you will have to start the game over from the beginning.

  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    Thanks guys. Yeah, I stopped playing right after
    The giant construction crane thing? In the water?

    So I haven't had time to full explore the game yet so I'm sure more will be revealed. I just get nervous that, not playing these types of games, I'm playing them "wrong."

    If you didn't manually save, you will have to start the game over from the beginning.

    That I *did* do; I think it said something about it auto-saving when I launched. So I made sure to.

    Renzo
  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    I kinda dove in to this hard since it came out on PC.

    Got endings A B T and W.

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    So far I've only gotten ending K

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    The game​ doesn't auto save. You need to manual save.

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  • BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    I finished up B last night.
    I hadn't played Nier or Drakengard, but I heard about the "canon ending" for D3 and the notes while hacking the factory pretty much directly stated that the dragon spread some kind of disease to Earth?

    I remember years ago somebody making a thread calling Yggdra Union the most cracked-out game you can find, but I do think it has been dethroned.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Just got ending A, it is way way way more upbeat and seemingly sorta straightforward than regular NieR ending A was.

    That means it's gonna hurt that much more, huh.

    On to B!

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    What exactly do you keep from one playthrough to the next, as far as weapons/items/plugs in go?

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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    Everything, I believe.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    You retain your entire inventory, XP, cash, plug-ins, pod programs, and weapons.

    Also all sidequests shared between routes that are completed save their completion. Partially or incorrectly completed quests will show up again.

    Rainfall on
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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    W ending is best ending.
    Only true one.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I come bearing a message that may make sense to you lot. I understand a robot and jumping is involved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MpbtqEcxmE&feature=youtu.be
    Morninglord: its simple
    Morninglord: when you do the first jump hold the button down
    Morninglord: the second it doesn't matter
    Morninglord: you just need to hold it down for the first
    Morninglord: the second you can jump and then hold it later, since you can't cancel twice
    Morninglord: ditto for dash
    

    Basil on
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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    The world map is a giant tease. I kept waiting for it to expand more into all of that extra space we can move around on, but noooope.

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Basil wrote: »
    I come bearing a message that may make sense to you lot. I understand a robot and jumping is involved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MpbtqEcxmE&feature=youtu.be
    Morninglord: its simple
    Morninglord: when you do the first jump hold the button down
    Morninglord: the second it doesn't matter
    Morninglord: you just need to hold it down for the first
    Morninglord: the second you can jump and then hold it later, since you can't cancel twice
    Morninglord: ditto for dash
    

    oh my god I was just trying to do this

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    You know putting aside the fact that her costume seems tailor made for panty flashing, I think 2B's design and movement just oozes style. I love playing as her.

    Top tier badass protagonist. 9/10, Would perfect evade again.

    (and probably will, pretty sure I got another 30 hours to go)

    Dr. Chaos on
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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    It's a leotard, not panties.

    (Not that it makes a difference. Just felt like being contraian and silly.)

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