remember Beepy from the original NieR?
The robot with the little child shade friend? He was P-33 in the first playthrough, and in the second when you could hear shades, you see the child called him Beepy.
Yoko Taro wrote this around the time Drakengard 3 came out. It's a very short story:
remember Beepy from the original NieR?
The robot with the little child shade friend? He was P-33 in the first playthrough, and in the second when you could hear shades, you see the child called him Beepy.
Yoko Taro wrote this around the time Drakengard 3 came out. It's a very short story:
#1 - did Beepy kick this whole mess off buy giving the machines created by the aliens the ability to think?
#2 - that ending description of what he and his friends look like sounds an AWFUL lot like Heigel, the first boss A2 fights.
Did we kill Beepy AGAIN!?
That spoiler discussion
I think we totally did kill Beepy again. But I'm pretty sure that design matches the boss in the "Become as gods" section for 2B, and the Final machine battle at the end of the game
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I have obtained the Platinum Trophy!
Only cheated for the "Fully upgrade all PODs", "Fish 20 different species of Fish", "Spend an hour with 9S in his underwear" and "Get all 26 endings" trophies. I feel like if I managed to get everything else fair and square, it oughta still count!
Was it @PLA that pointed out that chip rewards have random size?
I just reloaded until this quest gave me a diamond overclock +3 and I know at least one other where I'm going to do the same.
It's kind of annoying that they aren't fixed, though.
Yeah, that might have been me. I've seen people online apparently finagling numbers so that you don't need quite as many diamonds to fuse, but I stick to bruteforcing pure diamond-fusion, so I reload the majority of reward-chips.
I was helping my wife through a main story-only play through, and had something neat happen to me, so I thought I would share.
Route E Spoilers:
We shoot our way through the credits, opt to send our data out into the network, and decide to call it a night. She loves the final route ending, and was impressed that so many people
Fast forward an hour, and I get a PSN message on my phone. It's the player that received my rescue offer. They send me a screen cap of them accepting my rescue, and we chat for about 5 minutes about how much we like this game. Then we friend each other, and sign off for the night.
It was really cool to hear from the player that received my rescue. I've gone through Route E twice now, and it hadn't occurred to me that the player's PSN was included in the message, or to send a screenshot of their data finding someone to help out.
This game came out of nowhere for me, and I'm so glad that I picked it up.
Yeah, that might have been me. I've seen people online apparently finagling numbers so that you don't need quite as many diamonds to fuse, but I stick to bruteforcing pure diamond-fusion, so I reload the majority of reward-chips.
Fusion is kind of annoying too. Sometimes you need both to be diamond and sometimes not and there's not really a pattern that I can tell. I have reloaded a lot trying to use the fewest diamonds possible, because I haven't made an effort to farm chips at all. If I do I want to spend as little time farming as possible.
Looking up the soundtrack on youtube, see if I recognize anything -
wait this track plays there and is called that and you can pull it up on the jukebox as soon as you're in the resistance camp?
Seriously a full game spoiler.
The bunker bgm is called Fortress of Lies. Come on.
So.. don't use the jukebox if you haven't already gotten every ending, I guess.
Finally put some time into this over the last few days (up to 5 endings) and while I'm not sure if it's the Nier sequel I wanted (still waiting for some connections to the first game...they started to appear but no real context yet), it's pretty interesting.
One thing that HAS been frustrating me is I've locked up three times while going to do a hacking minigame, and each time my save was really far back. I mean, fault on me for not saving more, but obviously also a huge fault on the game.
Other than that, quite a good time.
remember Beepy from the original NieR?
The robot with the little child shade friend? He was P-33 in the first playthrough, and in the second when you could hear shades, you see the child called him Beepy.
Yoko Taro wrote this around the time Drakengard 3 came out. It's a very short story:
#1 - did Beepy kick this whole mess off buy giving the machines created by the aliens the ability to think?
#2 - that ending description of what he and his friends look like sounds an AWFUL lot like Heigel, the first boss A2 fights.
Did we kill Beepy AGAIN!?
Would explain a lot about some of the weird shit going on in Route B cutscenes that goes unexplained.
Particularly the "god" that appeared to the machines and gave them each a different shape (soul? Identity?).
The form he describes sounds like one of the final bosses and the one from the underground area of the factory that you fought in the dark.
"They attach an arm, some claws, some rollers, an arm, another arm…… Slowly, my form altered and changed, hardly resembling my original design. With all these legs, perhaps I look more like a spider now."
"Gradually, although at a frightening speed, we keep evolving. Our bodies no longer resemble the humanoid form, but rather, with repetitive motion, we have been optimized to resemble a great sphere with the diameter of about 20m.
The moment of self-recognition was the first time we had ever felt shame since our birth, so much that it conjured a feeling of mass hysteria among us. Perhaps even “he” would not recognize us. But, there was nothing we could do. How are we to know what is the correct form?"
The machine A2 fought on the elevator seemed very conflicted and comprised of multiple minds or identities with an existential crisis. The "shi" were also spiderlike and spherical like Beep describes here.
Like the first NieR, where you can point to the death of the ShadowLord as the point of no return for the extinction of humanity - is there a point in this game where things just start to spiral out of control?
I don't think there really is.
In NieR, everything from that point on is fucked. Once they don't merge Weiss and Noir, all is lost and everything after is just tragedy and hopeless attempts to salvage anything.
In Automata - I think the cycle and the momentum just are spinning way out of your control and you're on the ride. Nothing you DO really matters...? Ultimately, YoRHa would have activated the backdoor (they did), they'd be wiped out (they were), and I assume the machine war would keep rolling on since machines were using all this to continuously evolve.
Pascals village would have been wiped out anyway (the logic virus that was spread to YoRHa hit them as well, as it seems the machines took that opportunity to also weaken themselves as a group, like normal). It looks almost like this game was on the cusp of a "reset" anyway, and we're just there.
The only real thing I can think of that "mattered" was Adam and Eve - and even then I don't know if it really did. If 2B and 9S weren't fighting with them, they'd just end up more like the Forest King I think - starting their own little group, reading about humans and hanging out. They didn't really get violent until 2B and 9S fucked with them.
Even 9S learning the truth didn't matter - he had time and time again and been put down. The commander wasn't even concerned (as at that point I think she kind of knew the backdoor was opening and their purpose was all done anyway).
I suppose the only real person that did anything of consequence to steer this in a new direction is A2 - had she (and Pod) not split the logic of the machine girls, the cycle would continue for sure, instead of just "probably".
I need to sit and do more thinking on this, but when 99% of the game is machines and androids wondering "what is the point to all this if we're not fighting?", and the contrast to NieR Replicant where it's very, very clear that YOU fucked all this up and you weren't supposed to be involved - this game seems very much like all the stuff that happens is just what would have happened anyway, and you didn't really change or impact much of anything.
(As an aside, and it could be cool - I wonder if the tower would have appeared anyway? There didn't seem to be a moment that brought it about - the death of 2B was just coincidence as it sprung up. The only thing I can think of is maybe androids were never supposed to get in - and therefore the ONLY people who really altered the way things were going were...Devola and Popola, buying time for 9S to get in.
Which is kind of awesome.
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Like the first NieR, where you can point to the death of the ShadowLord as the point of no return for the extinction of humanity - is there a point in this game where things just start to spiral out of control?
I don't think there really is.
In NieR, everything from that point on is fucked. Once they don't merge Weiss and Noir, all is lost and everything after is just tragedy and hopeless attempts to salvage anything.
In Automata - I think the cycle and the momentum just are spinning way out of your control and you're on the ride. Nothing you DO really matters...? Ultimately, YoRHa would have activated the backdoor (they did), they'd be wiped out (they were), and I assume the machine war would keep rolling on since machines were using all this to continuously evolve.
Pascals village would have been wiped out anyway (the logic virus that was spread to YoRHa hit them as well, as it seems the machines took that opportunity to also weaken themselves as a group, like normal). It looks almost like this game was on the cusp of a "reset" anyway, and we're just there.
The only real thing I can think of that "mattered" was Adam and Eve - and even then I don't know if it really did. If 2B and 9S weren't fighting with them, they'd just end up more like the Forest King I think - starting their own little group, reading about humans and hanging out. They didn't really get violent until 2B and 9S fucked with them.
Even 9S learning the truth didn't matter - he had time and time again and been put down. The commander wasn't even concerned (as at that point I think she kind of knew the backdoor was opening and their purpose was all done anyway).
I suppose the only real person that did anything of consequence to steer this in a new direction is A2 - had she (and Pod) not split the logic of the machine girls, the cycle would continue for sure, instead of just "probably".
I need to sit and do more thinking on this, but when 99% of the game is machines and androids wondering "what is the point to all this if we're not fighting?", and the contrast to NieR Replicant where it's very, very clear that YOU fucked all this up and you weren't supposed to be involved - this game seems very much like all the stuff that happens is just what would have happened anyway, and you didn't really change or impact much of anything.
(As an aside, and it could be cool - I wonder if the tower would have appeared anyway? There didn't seem to be a moment that brought it about - the death of 2B was just coincidence as it sprung up. The only thing I can think of is maybe androids were never supposed to get in - and therefore the ONLY people who really altered the way things were going were...Devola and Popola, buying time for 9S to get in.
Which is kind of awesome.
Ending E spoilers
I think the most important thing that happened is the growing self awareness of the pod network. So now you have three machine intelligences, four if you include the YorHa type androids.
I would guess the pods are used by the android faction who normally rebuild YorHa. So the cycle may be partially broken.
Was not expecting that. It took me a sec to realize where the messages were coming from, because the first was from Nier so I thought it was like...Nier the character rooting me on.
I never actually upgraded my weapons to tier 4, nor did I ever upgrade a pod. Although, in fairness, Normal is so very, very easy that the multitudes of crap thrown at you almost feel like a statement on the very nature of grinding bullshit for attack modifiers. Given that it's the intended difficulty, maybe that is the case. Or...maybe they just wanted to provided struggling players with a means to boost themselves. I dunno.
Proooooobably shouldn't have deleted my data given how I blitzed through the game (24 hours clocked), but all the more reason to play it on hard!
Well, hell...the intro to Route C is certainly a thing. Ended up getting my can handed to me, but so it goes. Am loving how the game's i guess you'd call it New Game +'s build on each other. It's pretty rare (outside of Binding of Isaac) that i actually feel compelled to keep playing something once i've beaten it. Even games i've really enjoyed, i'll start them up again, and usually lose interest about a quarter of the way through. Here, i feel like i'm just scratching the surface. Hell, i've hardly even touched the Fuse system, yet.
There's one thing in this game that's super hard for me.
Android-bodies on the ground respawning. I can't get a hit in when that happens. No, but it's loot, though. You don't understand.
I've been debating going back through after I beat all the main endings and getting the rest of the F-Z that I've missed. I did look up what they are in case there were any I could easily get, but I'm not sure I actually want to get some of the endings because of how much of an awful android you have to be to get them. Some of them are just so grimdark. I felt really sad getting a few such as Q.
Also, what happens in C if you
Choose to kill Pascal instead of letting her live when you encounter her outside of the Resistance Camp? I didn't have the heart to kill her.
I've been debating going back through after I beat all the main endings and getting the rest of the F-Z that I've missed. I did look up what they are in case there were any I could easily get, but I'm not sure I actually want to get some of the endings because of how much of an awful android you have to be to get them. Some of them are just so grimdark. I felt really sad getting a few such as Q.
Also, what happens in C if you
Choose to kill Pascal instead of letting her live when you encounter her outside of the Resistance Camp? I didn't have the heart to kill her.
Remember how immediately afterward you ask Anemone for a fuel filter and she says "Oh, Pascal makes those, we don't have any"? RIP, sucka.
Also, I'm tempted to rush through a clean save on Easy just to hear one line of dialogue I probably can't get with this one. Youtube doesn't help, because people who aren't me don't do dumb things.
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Route C and possible original NieR spoiler
The robot with the little child shade friend? He was P-33 in the first playthrough, and in the second when you could hear shades, you see the child called him Beepy.
Yoko Taro wrote this around the time Drakengard 3 came out. It's a very short story:
http://drakengard-3.com/blog/2014/09/14/novella-the-fire-of-prometheus/
So...
#1 - did Beepy kick this whole mess off buy giving the machines created by the aliens the ability to think?
#2 - that ending description of what he and his friends look like sounds an AWFUL lot like Heigel, the first boss A2 fights.
Did we kill Beepy AGAIN!?
That spoiler discussion
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I just reloaded until this quest gave me a diamond overclock +3 and I know at least one other where I'm going to do the same.
It's kind of annoying that they aren't fixed, though.
Route E Spoilers:
Fast forward an hour, and I get a PSN message on my phone. It's the player that received my rescue offer. They send me a screen cap of them accepting my rescue, and we chat for about 5 minutes about how much we like this game. Then we friend each other, and sign off for the night.
It was really cool to hear from the player that received my rescue. I've gone through Route E twice now, and it hadn't occurred to me that the player's PSN was included in the message, or to send a screenshot of their data finding someone to help out.
This game came out of nowhere for me, and I'm so glad that I picked it up.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Oh wait, there's a full explanation of the math and a chart. That solves that problem.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/75137338
It's so gooood
wait this track plays there and is called that and you can pull it up on the jukebox as soon as you're in the resistance camp?
Seriously a full game spoiler.
So.. don't use the jukebox if you haven't already gotten every ending, I guess.
Edit: Also not a good time to fuck up my save-rotation. These are all garbage places.
One thing that HAS been frustrating me is I've locked up three times while going to do a hacking minigame, and each time my save was really far back. I mean, fault on me for not saving more, but obviously also a huge fault on the game.
Other than that, quite a good time.
The form he describes sounds like one of the final bosses and the one from the underground area of the factory that you fought in the dark.
The machine A2 fought on the elevator seemed very conflicted and comprised of multiple minds or identities with an existential crisis. The "shi" were also spiderlike and spherical like Beep describes here.
Nier: The deepest inter dimensional lore.
I can't stop thinking of this game.
Full game/series spoilers:
I don't think there really is.
In NieR, everything from that point on is fucked. Once they don't merge Weiss and Noir, all is lost and everything after is just tragedy and hopeless attempts to salvage anything.
In Automata - I think the cycle and the momentum just are spinning way out of your control and you're on the ride. Nothing you DO really matters...? Ultimately, YoRHa would have activated the backdoor (they did), they'd be wiped out (they were), and I assume the machine war would keep rolling on since machines were using all this to continuously evolve.
Pascals village would have been wiped out anyway (the logic virus that was spread to YoRHa hit them as well, as it seems the machines took that opportunity to also weaken themselves as a group, like normal). It looks almost like this game was on the cusp of a "reset" anyway, and we're just there.
The only real thing I can think of that "mattered" was Adam and Eve - and even then I don't know if it really did. If 2B and 9S weren't fighting with them, they'd just end up more like the Forest King I think - starting their own little group, reading about humans and hanging out. They didn't really get violent until 2B and 9S fucked with them.
Even 9S learning the truth didn't matter - he had time and time again and been put down. The commander wasn't even concerned (as at that point I think she kind of knew the backdoor was opening and their purpose was all done anyway).
I suppose the only real person that did anything of consequence to steer this in a new direction is A2 - had she (and Pod) not split the logic of the machine girls, the cycle would continue for sure, instead of just "probably".
I need to sit and do more thinking on this, but when 99% of the game is machines and androids wondering "what is the point to all this if we're not fighting?", and the contrast to NieR Replicant where it's very, very clear that YOU fucked all this up and you weren't supposed to be involved - this game seems very much like all the stuff that happens is just what would have happened anyway, and you didn't really change or impact much of anything.
(As an aside, and it could be cool - I wonder if the tower would have appeared anyway? There didn't seem to be a moment that brought it about - the death of 2B was just coincidence as it sprung up. The only thing I can think of is maybe androids were never supposed to get in - and therefore the ONLY people who really altered the way things were going were...Devola and Popola, buying time for 9S to get in.
Which is kind of awesome.
I accidentally faceplanted the canyon. Turns out falldamage doesn't hurt much, anymore.
Ending E spoilers
I would guess the pods are used by the android faction who normally rebuild YorHa. So the cycle may be partially broken.
I never actually upgraded my weapons to tier 4, nor did I ever upgrade a pod. Although, in fairness, Normal is so very, very easy that the multitudes of crap thrown at you almost feel like a statement on the very nature of grinding bullshit for attack modifiers. Given that it's the intended difficulty, maybe that is the case. Or...maybe they just wanted to provided struggling players with a means to boost themselves. I dunno.
Proooooobably shouldn't have deleted my data given how I blitzed through the game (24 hours clocked), but all the more reason to play it on hard!
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Android-bodies on the ground respawning. I can't get a hit in when that happens. No, but it's loot, though. You don't understand.
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I've been debating going back through after I beat all the main endings and getting the rest of the F-Z that I've missed. I did look up what they are in case there were any I could easily get, but I'm not sure I actually want to get some of the endings because of how much of an awful android you have to be to get them. Some of them are just so grimdark. I felt really sad getting a few such as Q.
Also, what happens in C if you
So that's endings A, K, T, W.
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Also, I'm tempted to rush through a clean save on Easy just to hear one line of dialogue I probably can't get with this one. Youtube doesn't help, because people who aren't me don't do dumb things.
Like I've seen 9S grab at his pod and hang glide off of it, I assume I can do the same?
Yep. Just hold the jump button on a decent.
Just got Ending E. I am fucking spent.
Not yet. I still have stuff to do. When I do that, it will be the proper time for a proper farewell.
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