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[Nier and/or Automata] Glory to humanity (and the anime)

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Heir wrote: »
    Thinking about picking this up on PC...some reviews were less than kind of the port. Does it work alright on KBAM? I have a 360 controller lying around I could use too, but I typically stick to KBAM where possible.

    Just as a counterpoint, I'm playing on KBAM and finding it manageable. It's definitely made for controllers, but I just can't really use them, so KBAM's been serving me fine on normal so far (albeit after remapping Skill 1 to tab, Walk to shift, and Pod Fire to ctrl), plus FAR.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    noticed Green Man had the PC version for 23% off today. Even though this isn't reaaally my type of game the Giant Beastcast kinda sold me on it today while listening.

    I don't know what happened, I think I blacked out for a minute, but now I see that my steam seems to be downloading Nier....

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    bah, totally got Ending W on the first boss fight and had to reply the damn 45 min prologue. That's kinda shitty how that works.
    1am but managed to get to the first save point. Now I must sleep :\

    I really really really hope they are better about letting me save my game in the future, I have 2 small kids and not a ton of free game time. If you can only save every hour or so that's gonna be a big problem for me :(

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    bah, totally got Ending W on the first boss fight and had to reply the damn 45 in prologue. That's kinda shitty how that works.
    1am but managed to get to the first save point. Now I must sleep :\

    I really really really hope they are better about letting me save my game in the future, I have 2 small kids and not a ton of free game time. If you can only save every hour or so that's gonna be a big problem for me :(

    Access Points (which provide areas where you can save) are fairly plentiful, and if you're going out into zones where there aren't many around, the game will communicate that to you (and so far even those are just a quick run back to civilisation for saving).

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Probably the worst design decision is that you can't save during long scripted sequences

    It's obnoxious and feels dated; there should be checkpoints

    Maybe just dial the difficulty to easy? The combat is simple, and higher difficulty levels are just more tedious

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  • AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    It was a design decision Yoko Taro made in spite of what the Platinum team wanted. Specifically because he knew it would annoy people.

    It's just how he rolls.

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  • CromartyCromarty Danielle Registered User regular
    Suriko wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    bah, totally got Ending W on the first boss fight and had to reply the damn 45 in prologue. That's kinda shitty how that works.
    1am but managed to get to the first save point. Now I must sleep :\

    I really really really hope they are better about letting me save my game in the future, I have 2 small kids and not a ton of free game time. If you can only save every hour or so that's gonna be a big problem for me :(

    Access Points (which provide areas where you can save) are fairly plentiful, and if you're going out into zones where there aren't many around, the game will communicate that to you (and so far even those are just a quick run back to civilisation for saving).
    Yeah, the intro is an anomaly in that regard. Most of the time you're only ever a few minutes' run from being in range of a save point.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    AJR wrote: »
    It was a design decision Yoko Taro made in spite of what the Platinum team wanted. Specifically because he knew it would annoy people.

    It's just how he rolls.

    When did he say that? I've only seen that he likes savepoints, for some reason.

  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    Alright, so Route C is in the bag. The last bit was getting a bit rough in the staying alive department, but swapping out my Movement Ups for Deadly Heal and Offensive Heal solved that problem neatly. Man, this game has been a hell of a ride, and continues to do a great job keeping me engaged (the only reason i didn't immediately jump into Route D is that i have to get ready for work in a minute).

    One thing though; i was taking a look at a spoiler free trophy site, 'cause i actually do want the Plat for this one. It said that there are a few missable bits
    One of the parts necessary for fully upgrading all the pods, and Ending Y

    i don't know if they meant those were missable on a single playthrough, but you could get them on another, or if they're one shot and one shot only. i didn't want to dig too deeply, i still want to stay relatively spoiler-free, even this deep in. Obviously i'm hoping it's the first, though. i'll eventually do a full run from scratch, but if i could do a clean sweep on this file, it would be nice.

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    JaredK91 wrote: »

    Okay...that's a thing, i guess. Don't think it's a thing for me, but...

    Wonder if it's a commentary on people using trophy guides?

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    I feel like it's a commentary on trophies being kind of meaningless

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    AJR wrote: »
    It was a design decision Yoko Taro made in spite of what the Platinum team wanted. Specifically because he knew it would annoy people.

    It's just how he rolls.

    When did he say that? I've only seen that he likes savepoints, for some reason.

    I heard that I he did it because reviewers complained about manual saves in the first nier.

    It was in an interview a while back.

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  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    DeMoN wrote: »
    I feel like it's a commentary on trophies being kind of meaningless

    As far as dick measuring goes, sure; but, especially with the ps4's auto-screenshots they're kind of fun, i think. It amuses me for some reason, that Death Rattle was the last chip i needed to pop that trophy.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    Are cut scenes unskippable?

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    Yep

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  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    AJR wrote: »
    Yep

    Huh? A lot of times there's a "press X to skip" right in the corner.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Hold the skip-button.

  • AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    Sorry, just glanced and assumed that they asked if cutscenes were skippable. Which they are.

    Woops.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    I meant for the opening scene.

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Big Classy wrote: »
    I meant for the opening scene.

    I think for some reason the intro scene is the only unskippable one

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Ah, best get it right then eh :lol:

    Edit: holy cow that was a crazy way to end the opening mission!

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    There's a lot going on in this game. Got through to the village and set up the pod for mainly a high drop rate and auto heal play style. Really digging the chip system.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    A Drop Rate +3 and a Drop Rate +4 are about as good as a Drop Rate +8, and much easier to get. Then they'll help you get other chips.

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  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    Sooo...

    Was playing with chapter select, picking off endings i'd missed, figured i'd get D/E tonight, so i could do some work with P5 tomorrow.
    so, i decided to help someone in the world, after the E credit scrawl (which was awesome, by the by). i figured there was a better than even chance all my data would actually get deleted. Still, it was a hell of a thing to watch it happen. Well, i did say i'd do a fresh replay eventually

    Well played, Mssr. Yoko, well played.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Yeah, that was... a rough decision with ending E.
    I erased it, though. I'd feel like a callous dick if I refused to help someone else just so I could go achievement hunting,

    Have to wonder how the first people to hit the credit sequence got through. That shit got bananas.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    Yeah, that was... a rough decision with ending E.
    I erased it, though. I'd feel like a callous dick if I refused to help someone else just so I could go achievement hunting,

    Have to wonder how the first people to hit the credit sequence got through. That shit got bananas.
    I don't think it's that hard to imagine.
    They would have at least put in enough default & Developer names to be able to get through it. Because some people might not have an internet connection

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Ending E
    You do not receive help if you don't connect to the internet.

  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    That does seem in-theme, even if it kinda blows for people playing offline.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    Big Classy wrote: »
    There's a lot going on in this game. Got through to the village and set up the pod for mainly a high drop rate and auto heal play style. Really digging the chip system.

    wait, what now? your pod can heal you? i'm on my way to the dessert area, first big mission of the game i guess? I don't seem to have any new pod abilities

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  • JaredK91JaredK91 Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Big Classy wrote: »
    There's a lot going on in this game. Got through to the village and set up the pod for mainly a high drop rate and auto heal play style. Really digging the chip system.

    wait, what now? your pod can heal you? i'm on my way to the dessert area, first big mission of the game i guess? I don't seem to have any new pod abilities

    I think he meant he set up his chips for auto heal since he mentions high drop rate as well since they are both chips.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    Yeah apologies, i meant the auto heal when health drops below 30% skill.

  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    So, i just reread through the thread so i could look at all the spoilers, and something popped up that i wanted to ask about.

    Starting Route B Mechanics spoilers
    So, folks had mentioned about the options you get when you ninja hack robots, specifically that you could read the options there. Well, whenever i hacked anything, chests, enemies, my self, all the pop up text was garbage text like Naphtali had mentioned happening in their options screen. Since it was consistent, i thought it was supposed to be like that (like maybe hacking was introducing corruption into your system). But...maybe not? i wonder if it'll be like that when i do a fresh playthrough.

    Also, as an aside, when folks were talking about handling the Golden Robots many, many pages back? And it was mentioned that "hacking" was the best method to kill them? When that came up, i still hadn't gotten to Route B, i assumed hacking as in "hack 'n slash." 'cause i spent something like a half-hour whittling the damned things to death when i first came up on them in the Flooded City. When i finally did get the ability to hack, and realized my mistake, i just laughed and laughed.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Big Classy wrote: »
    Yeah apologies, i meant the auto heal when health drops below 30% skill.

    Oh, Auto-item!

    So, i just reread through the thread so i could look at all the spoilers, and something popped up that i wanted to ask about.

    Starting Route B Mechanics spoilers
    So, folks had mentioned about the options you get when you ninja hack robots, specifically that you could read the options there. Well, whenever i hacked anything, chests, enemies, my self, all the pop up text was garbage text like Naphtali had mentioned happening in their options screen. Since it was consistent, i thought it was supposed to be like that (like maybe hacking was introducing corruption into your system). But...maybe not? i wonder if it'll be like that when i do a fresh playthrough.

    Also, as an aside, when folks were talking about handling the Golden Robots many, many pages back? And it was mentioned that "hacking" was the best method to kill them? When that came up, i still hadn't gotten to Route B, i assumed hacking as in "hack 'n slash." 'cause i spent something like a half-hour whittling the damned things to death when i first came up on them in the Flooded City. When i finally did get the ability to hack, and realized my mistake, i just laughed and laughed.
    9S is super strong. He feels like a crutch.
    The text is supposed to be readable, though.

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  • DeansDeans Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Big Classy wrote: »
    Yeah apologies, i meant the auto heal when health drops below 30% skill.

    Oh, Auto-item!

    So, i just reread through the thread so i could look at all the spoilers, and something popped up that i wanted to ask about.

    Starting Route B Mechanics spoilers
    So, folks had mentioned about the options you get when you ninja hack robots, specifically that you could read the options there. Well, whenever i hacked anything, chests, enemies, my self, all the pop up text was garbage text like Naphtali had mentioned happening in their options screen. Since it was consistent, i thought it was supposed to be like that (like maybe hacking was introducing corruption into your system). But...maybe not? i wonder if it'll be like that when i do a fresh playthrough.

    Also, as an aside, when folks were talking about handling the Golden Robots many, many pages back? And it was mentioned that "hacking" was the best method to kill them? When that came up, i still hadn't gotten to Route B, i assumed hacking as in "hack 'n slash." 'cause i spent something like a half-hour whittling the damned things to death when i first came up on them in the Flooded City. When i finally did get the ability to hack, and realized my mistake, i just laughed and laughed.
    9S is super strong. He feels like a crutch.
    The text is supposed to be readable, though.
    I hardly ever even hacked anything with 9S, except the super durable gold enemies and things like them. His charge attacks are super strong, I'd just javelin dudes to death at long range.

  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Huh, well, i guess it was just something weird going on with my game then. It wasn't really an issue. i didn't find myself using that ability much, 'cause it was more fun whompin' on enemies myself.

    So...i was going to use my before work time today working on my LBPseries, and playing P5. That was the whole point of trying to wrap up the main routes last night. Annnd, of course, morning comes around to find me starting up a fresh Nier game.

    Don't get me wrong, P5 is really good, and i'm enjoying it a lot. It's just...Nier's got it's hooks in me. This go, i'm trying to knock off the gag endings as they come up, instead of doing most of them in a block later on. Also i want to put in a little more time with the chip/fuse system, i feel like i was only using it in its bluntest form last time.

    Also also, popped this one trophy (you know the one)...man, i felt like a hella creeper.

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  • glimmungglimmung Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    There is a pod program that heals BTW. Think it is called repair or some such.

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    I finished route A and started B this weekend. I really enjoy this game. My only real complaint is that at times I want the game to feel like a CAG because it's a platinum game but it leans harder into the RPG side, which is okay. It's too visually noisy to be a good CAG anyway, a lot of times there's so much visual clutter on screen that I have to dodge proactively because I can't see an enemy's tells through all the noise anyway.

    Favorite chip has to be auto heal, the one that heals you after not taking damage for 6 seconds. I pretty much was able to stop ever using healing consumable once I got a decent auto heal chip.

    I suppose I should probably be playing the game on a higher difficulty because on normal I didn't die a single time through route A, never even really came close. Honestly though I'm not sure I enjoy the gameplay enough to want to play it on a harder difficulty where fights take longer. It's honestly more the aesthetic and music that makes me really enjoy this game.

  • chris: waffle kingchris: waffle king whiskey-fueled crank Osaka's OverbellyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    The fights don't take much longer on Hard, but the enemies pack a lot more punch. Your Auto-heals will get a lot of workout.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    How do the dead androids work? Like i retrieve the gear but then it doesn't appear in my inventory.

    Edit: aha! They're temp boosts so only appear on the main HUD.

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