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[Final Fantasy]: Spoony Bard vs. Meteor Sage edition

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Edit: Wrong FF thread.

    But in case you missed the memo, Heavensward is bloody fantastic.

    I see no reason not to talk about the game here, in the generic FF thread. You're just not likely to get a lot of detailed opinions since I don't think a lot of the regular posters in this thread play it.

    I just 45 on my PLD, so 5 more levels until I can finally finish the ARR story and see all the stuff that came in patches and actually play HW.

    I... Have some bad news.

    Level 50 is, roughly, halfway to the end of ARR's storylines.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Is there a limit to how high stamina can be raised?

    Googled it but could only find stuff mentioning shards increasing it, no mention of the actual limit. I'm guessing it maxes out at 100?

    I can personally attest that it can go higher than 100. I believe we are limited by the number of shards we can obtain not any hard coded limit. Not sure what the current max would be, I've barely scratched the surface of the last round of elites and am at 106.
    Hmm. Interesting.

    More generous than I would expect them to be but then again, haven't really seen how stamina costs can go yet. My current total is only 61, still doing the classics.

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  • BillmaanBillmaan Registered User regular
    The current maximum stamina is 111 on the dot. There's no cap, it's just that there's a finite number of stamina shards available (with more added with each dungeon update).

    Dr. Chaos
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    For the most part characters are grouped into roles, within which they're pretty interchangeable. You've got your general Combat/Front line physical units with high attack and defense. You've got Ranged Support units, as well as White and Black mages in the back row. It's good that there's redundancy, because not everyone has every character, and for some fights you want to stack multiple of a role type, or bring a certain Soul Break to cover a boss's status vulnerability or enable a unique strategy. There are a few characters with unique sets of abilities, stats, soul breaks, and personal relics that come together in the perfect way, but for the most part everyone but the Core classes are useable. Even Monks after they get a few abilities later.

    This is part of the reason Cloud is so good; in addition to generally useful stats and Combat abilities, he is the foundation for the Retaliate strategy, has elemental weaknesses covered with Spellblades, can attack from range with Wind Slash, and eventually gets Dual Delay, which is pretty sweet.

  • ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    And one last GWO from my buddy Granaldo. Too bad we'll never see you agaaaaiiiinnn~

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    For the most part characters are grouped into roles, within which they're pretty interchangeable. You've got your general Combat/Front line physical units with high attack and defense. You've got Ranged Support units, as well as White and Black mages in the back row. It's good that there's redundancy, because not everyone has every character, and for some fights you want to stack multiple of a role type, or bring a certain Soul Break to cover a boss's status vulnerability or enable a unique strategy. There are a few characters with unique sets of abilities, stats, soul breaks, and personal relics that come together in the perfect way, but for the most part everyone but the Core classes are useable. Even Monks after they get a few abilities later.

    This is part of the reason Cloud is so good; in addition to generally useful stats and Combat abilities, he is the foundation for the Retaliate strategy, has elemental weaknesses covered with Spellblades, can attack from range with Wind Slash, and eventually gets Dual Delay, which is pretty sweet.

    Oh, a jack of all trades.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    For the most part characters are grouped into roles, within which they're pretty interchangeable. You've got your general Combat/Front line physical units with high attack and defense. You've got Ranged Support units, as well as White and Black mages in the back row. It's good that there's redundancy, because not everyone has every character, and for some fights you want to stack multiple of a role type, or bring a certain Soul Break to cover a boss's status vulnerability or enable a unique strategy. There are a few characters with unique sets of abilities, stats, soul breaks, and personal relics that come together in the perfect way, but for the most part everyone but the Core classes are useable. Even Monks after they get a few abilities later.

    This is part of the reason Cloud is so good; in addition to generally useful stats and Combat abilities, he is the foundation for the Retaliate strategy, has elemental weaknesses covered with Spellblades, can attack from range with Wind Slash, and eventually gets Dual Delay, which is pretty sweet.

    Oh, a jack of all trades.

    I don't think it's an accident he's the first character you unlock from a mainline game.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    What specifically about Cloud makes him so good with Retaliate? There are plenty of other dudes who can equip it.

    My "main" party has Cloud with Retaliate and also Dark Cecil with Retaliate. Both of them also have Double Strike. And I use Celes for my spell blades.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Lightning had her fun.

    It's back to the Cloud whoring.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    On the topic of Spell Blades, I would love to see a Spell Blade class added to FFXIV. Runic Knight would be awesome.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    For the most part characters are grouped into roles, within which they're pretty interchangeable. You've got your general Combat/Front line physical units with high attack and defense. You've got Ranged Support units, as well as White and Black mages in the back row. It's good that there's redundancy, because not everyone has every character, and for some fights you want to stack multiple of a role type, or bring a certain Soul Break to cover a boss's status vulnerability or enable a unique strategy. There are a few characters with unique sets of abilities, stats, soul breaks, and personal relics that come together in the perfect way, but for the most part everyone but the Core classes are useable. Even Monks after they get a few abilities later.

    This is part of the reason Cloud is so good; in addition to generally useful stats and Combat abilities, he is the foundation for the Retaliate strategy, has elemental weaknesses covered with Spellblades, can attack from range with Wind Slash, and eventually gets Dual Delay, which is pretty sweet.
    Smart but thankfully there still seems to unique aspects to each character with stuff like their record materia and soul breaks.

    I'm glad they seem to have a system that keeps balance under control but hopefully characters never start to feel too samey.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Lightning had her fun.

    It's back to the Cloud whoring.

    I might be alone in this, but I actually like Lightning better as a MC. Cloud was way too stoic and unexpressive. (Is that a word?). He always struck me as a rather bland MC. In fact, he's near the bottom of my list. Yes, there's no doubt he's a badass. He's like the definition of badass. But he's also extremely uninteresting. If I wanted a badass in my party, I would pick Auron every time over Cloud.

    Now, I will also readily admit that their ability for storytelling has come a long way since FFVII, and the Remake might give them the opportunity to flesh Cloud out a bit if they hire good voice actors and tweak any of the scenes to be more cinematic. A big part of why Cloud is so stoic and boring is because of technical limitations of the PSOne and how new Square was to polygonal game engines. FFVIII and FFIX are both like a million times better produced than 7.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What specifically about Cloud makes him so good with Retaliate? There are plenty of other dudes who can equip it.

    My "main" party has Cloud with Retaliate and also Dark Cecil with Retaliate. Both of them also have Double Strike. And I use Celes for my spell blades.

    Dark Cecil can only use Combat skills. Retaliate is a Samurai skill. The only characters that can equip Retaliate (at the moment) are:

    Cloud: High attack, access to Swords and Helms
    Sephiroth: High attack, but poor equipment selection
    Tyro: Mediocre stats but the best equipment selection. Capable of Ranged Retaliate. Eventually learns Taunt and can do Tauntaliate by himself.
    Cyan: Mediocre stats and equipment selection

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Lightning gets so much shit for being pushed so hard but she's probably my favorite main character of the modern era of FF. It's a shame she'll probably be remembered as just that character that got shoved in everybody's face.

    I'll take her over most of the pretty boy male protagonists any day.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Oh yep, you're right. I don't have Retaliate on DCecil. Maybe it was Blade Bash or something. Something with a similar icon.

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Hey they're actually gonna give us guns!

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    Hey they're actually gonna give us guns!

    I'm more shocked by the heaps and heaps and HEAPS of 3* Orbs they're throwing at us. Like, there was a lot in Squall's event, a noticeable increase in Sephiroth's event, but this is remarkable. In the original release, instead of ten 3* Orbs, players got ten 1* Orbs. And the rewards scale up from there!

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    No kidding, we're getting 12 friggin Greater Wind Orbs in the elite dungeons

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    No kidding, we're getting 12 friggin Greater Wind Orbs in the elite dungeons

    I've been resisting crafting Slowga, since the Figaro brothers event has it as a reward.

  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Lightning had her fun.

    It's back to the Cloud whoring.

    I might be alone in this, but I actually like Lightning better as a MC. Cloud was way too stoic and unexpressive. (Is that a word?). He always struck me as a rather bland MC. In fact, he's near the bottom of my list. Yes, there's no doubt he's a badass. He's like the definition of badass. But he's also extremely uninteresting. If I wanted a badass in my party, I would pick Auron every time over Cloud.

    Now, I will also readily admit that their ability for storytelling has come a long way since FFVII, and the Remake might give them the opportunity to flesh Cloud out a bit if they hire good voice actors and tweak any of the scenes to be more cinematic. A big part of why Cloud is so stoic and boring is because of technical limitations of the PSOne and how new Square was to polygonal game engines. FFVIII and FFIX are both like a million times better produced than 7.

    Cloud is only remotely interesting after you find out he's really a sham. And that's really more to do with the plot subverting our expectations than Cloud's character. For long stretches of the game he's essentially a silent protagonist. Lots of holding and shaking his head and explaining SOLDIER/ShinRa stuff, but not a lot in the way of personality. He's mostly a playable plot point that the other characters react to.

    Out of all the protagonists, he's basically just a few notches above Bartz.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I'm playing FFV for my first time ever, but I already feel like Bartz has more personality than Cloud. I'm in Walse right now, I believe. (For story reference).

    Zidane is probably actually my favorite MC, followed by Lightning at #2. Zidane oozes personality. He is fantastic.

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  • ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    Got a Genji Shield from the 100 gem pull. I didn't even think it was in there hah. I guess I have a 6* Genji shield.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Is Bartz the protagonist?

    I mean, he's usually the face in crossovers, but he's kind of Party Member #3 for much of the game. Lenna and then Galuf are the ones who drive the party, mostly, and then later it's kind of a noncentralized group effort. Kind of a strange situation.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    He has more of a connection to the plot than Vaan, but just barely.

    Honestly speaking, how everybody comes together and how they relate to one another and the crisis at large is really one giant, almost contrived coincidence.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Whelp, did an 11 pull on Balthier's banner. Decidedly below average (but that's typical, it seems).

    Bastard Sword (can combine into 3+, but I really didn't need any more VI swords)
    Defender (Mythril Sword 2++ is better)
    Gaia Hammer (Can combine into 3+, I guess)
    Ice Rod (There really are a lot of rods in this game)
    Glacial Staff x2 (There are even more staves from XII)
    Aevis Killer (XII synergy bow, I suppose for Fran)
    Red Cap (Already have a 3++, going in the garbage)
    Black Garb (4* Light Armor is ok I guess)
    Mythril Mail (Combined with the two from an earlier event, makes a 3++)
    Wizard Armlet (4* bracers are decent, and X synergy)

    Mostly useless garbage, though I can't complain after my last pull. I think I'm done with banners until Sazh's guns come out.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    He has more of a connection to the plot than Vaan, but just barely.

    Honestly speaking, how everybody comes together and how they relate to one another and the crisis at large is really one giant, almost contrived coincidence.

    Have you played a little game called The Legend of Dragoon?

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Lightning had her fun.

    It's back to the Cloud whoring.

    I might be alone in this, but I actually like Lightning better as a MC. Cloud was way too stoic and unexpressive. (Is that a word?). He always struck me as a rather bland MC. In fact, he's near the bottom of my list. Yes, there's no doubt he's a badass. He's like the definition of badass. But he's also extremely uninteresting. If I wanted a badass in my party, I would pick Auron every time over Cloud.

    Now, I will also readily admit that their ability for storytelling has come a long way since FFVII, and the Remake might give them the opportunity to flesh Cloud out a bit if they hire good voice actors and tweak any of the scenes to be more cinematic. A big part of why Cloud is so stoic and boring is because of technical limitations of the PSOne and how new Square was to polygonal game engines. FFVIII and FFIX are both like a million times better produced than 7.

    Cloud is only remotely interesting after you find out he's really a sham. And that's really more to do with the plot subverting our expectations than Cloud's character. For long stretches of the game he's essentially a silent protagonist. Lots of holding and shaking his head and explaining SOLDIER/ShinRa stuff, but not a lot in the way of personality. He's mostly a playable plot point that the other characters react to.

    Out of all the protagonists, he's basically just a few notches above Bartz.

    Hey woah, Bartz is awesome.

    So what if he displays the most neutral personality ever? Also, his name is Butz

    (I just really like FF5 ok)

    Also I think FF5 was kind of the experiment with not having a true main character that FF6 tried to continue. Sure Terra is made out to be the primary character really, and is given the face of the game. But how often do you even have her around? I mean you lose her for a significant portion of the game, when she returns she barely gets any focus back, and in the second half (or final third, whatever you consider the WOR) she is completely optional.

    Butz is only a MC in that you get him first and hes always there sans a very brief moment where Galuf gets the spotlight. Other than that the whole idea of the story really makes all the characters equals.

    Then we move on to FF7+ where its really outright main character focused.

    Thinking about it, before 7, the only game to truely give you a legit main character was FF4. In that you always get the point of view of Cecil and he is heavilly tied into the main plot. Even FF2 being the only other one with characters doesn't really establish anyone as main. The 3 are a collective main thats about it.

    But back to the point, Butz is awesome. That is all.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Got a Genji Shield from the 100 gem pull. I didn't even think it was in there hah. I guess I have a 6* Genji shield.

    I think you always have a decent chance to get a 5* item without a Soul Break. They only boost the chances of getting five 5*'s with Soul Breaks each banner. The rest have about an 0.001% chance.

  • ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    Got a Genji Shield from the 100 gem pull. I didn't even think it was in there hah. I guess I have a 6* Genji shield.

    I think you always have a decent chance to get a 5* item without a Soul Break. They only boost the chances of getting five 5*'s with Soul Breaks each banner. The rest have about an 0.001% chance.

    Noooo my lottery luck is all used up now. =(

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Kai_San wrote: »
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Lightning had her fun.

    It's back to the Cloud whoring.

    I might be alone in this, but I actually like Lightning better as a MC. Cloud was way too stoic and unexpressive. (Is that a word?). He always struck me as a rather bland MC. In fact, he's near the bottom of my list. Yes, there's no doubt he's a badass. He's like the definition of badass. But he's also extremely uninteresting. If I wanted a badass in my party, I would pick Auron every time over Cloud.

    Now, I will also readily admit that their ability for storytelling has come a long way since FFVII, and the Remake might give them the opportunity to flesh Cloud out a bit if they hire good voice actors and tweak any of the scenes to be more cinematic. A big part of why Cloud is so stoic and boring is because of technical limitations of the PSOne and how new Square was to polygonal game engines. FFVIII and FFIX are both like a million times better produced than 7.

    Cloud is only remotely interesting after you find out he's really a sham. And that's really more to do with the plot subverting our expectations than Cloud's character. For long stretches of the game he's essentially a silent protagonist. Lots of holding and shaking his head and explaining SOLDIER/ShinRa stuff, but not a lot in the way of personality. He's mostly a playable plot point that the other characters react to.

    Out of all the protagonists, he's basically just a few notches above Bartz.

    Hey woah, Bartz is awesome.

    So what if he displays the most neutral personality ever? Also, his name is Butz

    (I just really like FF5 ok)

    Also I think FF5 was kind of the experiment with not having a true main character that FF6 tried to continue. Sure Terra is made out to be the primary character really, and is given the face of the game. But how often do you even have her around? I mean you lose her for a significant portion of the game, when she returns she barely gets any focus back, and in the second half (or final third, whatever you consider the WOR) she is completely optional.

    Butz is only a MC in that you get him first and hes always there sans a very brief moment where Galuf gets the spotlight. Other than that the whole idea of the story really makes all the characters equals.

    Then we move on to FF7+ where its really outright main character focused.

    Thinking about it, before 7, the only game to truely give you a legit main character was FF4. In that you always get the point of view of Cecil and he is heavilly tied into the main plot. Even FF2 being the only other one with characters doesn't really establish anyone as main. The 3 are a collective main thats about it.

    But back to the point, Butz is awesome. That is all.

    VII is really weird. Red is essentially forgotten after Cosmo Canyon. Barrett is essentially forgotten about after the Gold Saucer, Cid has his really condensed arc. The optional characters are naturally limited. It's the faux love triangle that gets the bulk of the air time. Everyone else just moves to the background in short order.

    Along those lines, I've always felt that the Cloud/Sephiroth rivalry was hilariously one-sided, in a Raul Julia M. Bison to Ming-Na Chun Li way. Cloud wants revenge for the destruction of his village and for being made a test subject, and Sephiroth merely uses him as a Jenova-filled puppet that's in an ideal position. It doesn't feel personal on his end, outside of using Cloud's messed up memories and Jenova cells as a means of control. But even then, Sephiroth doesn't have a vested interest in making Cloud suffer more than anyone else. There's no "I'm going to fuck you over extra hard because you're Cloud" mentality.

    I might be wrong. I haven't played VII in 16-17 years (holy fuck, I'm old), but that's what I remember. Cloud and co. being desperate and angry, and Sephiroth being, "Meh, whatever. Now, follow along like a good puppet."

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    I do think Sephiroth holds a mild bit of hatred towards Cloud specifically for what happened in the Reactor at the climax of the flashback. He's basically the one character still in a position to remember.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Hey woah, Bartz is awesome.

    So what if he displays the most neutral personality ever? Also, his name is Butz

    (I just really like FF5 ok)
    Proper translation ruins everything.

    It's Meteo, goddammit.

    And Ultros, not Orthros.

    *shakes fist at DeNA*

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    Looking forward to the eventual discussion of which Cids to field for the upcoming Cid Multiverse Event in 2018.

    "I'm partial to FF4, 6, 7, and 14 Cids, but FF8 Cid is a surprisingly good healer, and FF9 Cid in oglop form is an amazing thief."

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Renzo wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Record Keeper is going to be insane in a few years.

    "Hold on, let me see which of the 200 FF characters I want to play from the greatest sprite army ever assembled."

    Looking forward to the eventual discussion of which Cids to field for the upcoming Cid Multiverse Event in 2018.

    "I'm partial to FF4, 6, 7, and 14 Cids, but FF8 Cid is a surprisingly good healer, and FF9 Cid in oglop form is an amazing thief."
    Holy shit, yes.

    Shame theres no real party banter/interaction. There would be some fun conversations.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Hey woah, Bartz is awesome.

    So what if he displays the most neutral personality ever? Also, his name is Butz

    (I just really like FF5 ok)
    Proper translation ruins everything.

    It's Meteo, godammit.

    And Ultros, not Orthros.

    *shakes fist at DeNA*

    Meltdown will always be superior to Merton.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Huh. Hadn't noticed before that you don't have to do the event elite dungeon stages in order.

    I can go straight for Balthier's memory crystal after nabbing him. Nice.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Whoa whoa what about X Cid? Old man's awesome! And has a hilarious accent!

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    I've always been partial to XII's Cid, mostly because I think he's the first one that's unapologetically evil.

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