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[Heroes of the Storm] Eternal Conflict: Kharazim and Infernal Shrines on PTR

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Dat Lone Druid, tho.

    The Escape GoatEtiowsa
  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    The new map seems kinda cool mechanically--an objective that targets/kills/lane bullies heroes--but aesthetically it's like they didn't even try to mask that it's the same art assets as battlefield. Sky temple seems more different from spider tomb visually.

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    Cyrenicshryke
  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Wow, the Monk has such a weird creeper walk. I keep thinking "ima getcha! ima getcha! ima getcha!" while he's shuffling at an opponent.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    Isn't SSS destined to be overshadowed by the ult that gives an ally an extra life?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Isn't SSS destined to be overshadowed by the ult that gives an ally an extra life?

    Depends on when you have to time the buff, but yes. It will.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    I guess it depends on also how effective building him as an assassin will be.

    Seems like they really want him to be able to go full damage if the team needs it. My only worry though, is where else he will get his healing from. I feel like the reason Tyrnade is considered an inferior healer is because she has one skill and that is it. Her heal is actually pretty potent especially if you get a few talents for it, but it being ALL she has really makes her limited.

    If Kara has just that aoe will that be enough? Sure he has that extra life ult, so that is more than tyr right there.

    I just hope something other than the option for a trait that heals him on melee attacks is in his talents.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    If it's like D3, SSS should be all completely invulnerable frames though, which can be legit.

    Will have to see...


    love me some D3 Monk... the only class I ever really played.

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    wra
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The teleport to allies is both an escape and an engage, so he has that.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • SupagoatSupagoat Registered User regular
    Wow, so it looks like the monk's able to teleport to an enemy through a teammate. That looks really cool for battle mobility and being able to focus someone who's taken some damage. Looks like he'll be a blast to play all around, really.

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  • JextJext Registered User regular
    Can't wait to get a new support, it's usually my best role in Hero League.

    Rexxar seems pretty awesome as well, I hope the new heroes will change up the current meta soon. A bit tired of the "firstpick jaina/kael every single game" meta.

    Lucid_Seraph
  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    Jext wrote: »
    Can't wait to get a new support, it's usually my best role in Hero League.

    Rexxar seems pretty awesome as well, I hope the new heroes will change up the current meta soon. A bit tired of the "firstpick jaina/kael every single game" meta.

    Well, there's no new assassins to really replace them yet, so...

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I'm actually really excited for Rexxar/Misha. That looks like a fun playstyle. I'll probably day 1 him.

    TheStigDibby
  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular

    One downside I see for this Monk support is that he doesn't seem to be able to heal as much as the core healers (malf / lili / uther).

    So he might be more of an assassin / warrior-esque like Sonya or the D2 Paladin with sustain.


    So... matchmaker be damned.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    One downside I see for this Monk support is that he doesn't seem to be able to heal as much as the core healers (malf / lili / uther).

    So he might be more of an assassin / warrior-esque like Sonya or the D2 Paladin with sustain.


    So... matchmaker be damned.

    Eh, we have no idea what his talents will do.

    Like heals on his dash or and AoE heal to his trait that heals every x attack.

    <3 Talent system

    MMMig
  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    his abilities right now just scream "i am going to be tyrande 2." hopefully the talents have serious healing potential in there since it'd suck to have a brand new support who can't heal.

    rexxar looks neat though. wonder how long misha's rez timer is going to be.

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    Etiowsa
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Too many warriors /pouts

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  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Have you guys been experiencing a lot of lag / framerate issues lately? I've been dealing with it a lot in the past few weeks, and its starting to aggravate me, because I'm not able to mitigate it in any meaningful way. There are games where it just looks like a slideshow for me. I've turned all of the graphical settings down to low, or when possible, off, even though this computer's pretty good and the game suggests I run everything on high. That hasn't seemed to have any meaningful impact on the issue, however. I also thought maybe having my computer, 360 and PS4 all connected to the internet was slowing down my connection, but turning those other devices off while I play also hasn't solved the issue. Last night, I think @WingedWeasel and @Lucascraft were also experiencing the lag I was getting. So is it a server thing? Could you guys suggest a way to help resolve this issue for me (or am I not the only one with this problem right now)?

    Check what else you have running on the network Ducks... For some reason (that I haven't figured out yet) having steam running at the same time as hots is a no-go for me... as soon as it decides to grab an update and my network traffic creeps up HotS begins to stutter.

    I assume this is due to their lag/replay system, like when you DC and the game plays catchup via a replay or whatever.

    But with the two systems I have wired to my router, if steam or any torrents are running heavy downloads I get what looks like a graphics issue (stuttering/lag) but I'm sure is actually lag.... as soon as I kill steam/utorrent on both systems I'm back to peak framerates with everything on high graphics-wise.

    So yeah... check network traffic from other sources on the network and see what happens.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    tyrande is a really good character so i don't see what the problem with a second one is

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Tyrande is fine. The only problem is that she breaks the matchmaker in Quick Match, since the QM considers her a healer for the purposes of "even" matchmaking.

    That's not to say she can't. I've won QM matches with Tyrande as my team's only support, and the other team got a Rehgar or LiLi or something.

    Player skill, team coordination, and map awareness are way more important than getting a pure healer (in Quick Match).

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Too many warriors /pouts

    Not enough warriors.

    Never enough warriors.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    tyrande is a really good character so i don't see what the problem with a second one is

    we all know this, but we also know tyrande isn't a healing support. and sure it's winnable when you don't have one if the other team does, but it's a reasonable uphill climb, especially if you don't get a ton of burst damage. even blizzard's stats said support vs no support was 60-40, so it's certainly winnable but that still sucks for the team with 40.

    also on maps like eternal conflict it's a huge penalty, since the fight in the middle takes for fucking ever and you need a healer to sustain it.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    it's a reasonable uphill climb if u bad

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    More info from HeroesNexus:
    Kharazim
    Level 1

    Transcendence - Basic attacks heal
    Iron Fists - Basic attakcs deal bonus damage
    Insight - Basic attacks restore Mana
    Level 4

    Foresight - Radiant Dash reveals the area
    Overtake - Deadly Reach attacks increase movespeed
    Healing Ward
    Protective Shield
    Level 7

    Unknown 1
    Unknown 2
    Cleanse
    Clairvoyance
    Level 10

    Seven-Sided Strike - become invulnerable and strike nearby Heroes.
    Divine Palm - protect an ally from death.
    Rexxar
    Level 1

    Grizzled Bear - Misha periodically reduces damage from enemy heroes.
    Hunter Gatherer - gather regen globes to increase Health Regen. (unsure if it affects Misha)
    Survivalistic Training - gather regen globes to increase Mana Regen.
    Flare - gain vision of an area
    Level 4

    Hungry Bear - Misha's basic attacks heal her.
    Crippling Talons - increase Spirit Swoop slow amount and duration.
    Taking Flight - increase Spirit Swoop range, returns mana.
    Easy Prey - Misha is more effective against Minions and Mercs.
    Level 10

    Bestial Wrath - increase Misha's basic attack damage.
    Unleash the Boars - send a pack of Boars to hunt enemy heroes.
    Level 13

    Wildfire Bear - Misha deals damage to nearby enemies.
    Thrill of the Hunt - basic attacks increase move speed.
    Bear Necessities - Cast "Misha, Charge!" again if you don't hit a Hero.
    Barkskin - Misha takes reduced ability damage after charging.
    Level 20

    Spirit Bond - increase Bestial Wrath duration and Misha heals Rexxar with her attacks.
    Kill Command - Unleash the Boars deals more damage and roots enemies.
    Frenzy of Kalimdor - your Basic Attacks deal more damage and Misha's attacks slow.
    Hardened Skin - you and Misha take reduced damage.

    NeurotikaMMMigkime
  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    If Divine Palm is built the way I think it's gonna be built, it'll actually take a little bit of skill to use...

    There's a hero in LoL (Zilian) who has the exact same ult and on paper is seems OP... push button, grant second life.

    What this doesn't address is that sometimes you get a second life and you're still fucked... surrounded by the enemy, caught in a bad position, outnumbered. It can still end poorly.

    The LoL version is also only active for a second or two, so you need to be able to make a snap decision that the person you're saving is worth saving and not wasting your ult on, make sure they're in range AND tag them with it within a second or two of their death... As bursty as some heroes are in HotS, I think it's going to be a harder to use Ult than it first appears (assuming it is functionally the same, but I can't see it lasting more than a second or two... second life if they die within the next 10 seconds seems silly).

    Assuming it works the same and has some indicative graphic (the guy who's about to rez twinkles or whatevs) it means there's also counterplay to it... just saw Kara drop his ult on the valla you were gonna squish? Change targets for a second till that wears off and if she hasn't gotten away, smash her now.

    It should be an interesting ability.

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  • SupagoatSupagoat Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    even blizzard's stats said support vs no support was 60-40, so it's certainly winnable but that still sucks for the team with 40.

    What do their stats say about games with Tyrande as a support vs Rehgar/Li Li/Uther/Malfurion? Tyrande isn't not a support. Like the double negative? :)

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  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    "Bear Necessities - Cast "Misha, Charge!" again if you don't hit a Hero."

    Well now that song'll be stuck in my head all day....

    Khraul on
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  • Undead MonkeyUndead Monkey Anchorage, AKRegistered User regular
    A link to blurry pics of a bunch of upcoming skins and mounts, including Monk and Rexxar:

    http://imgur.com/a/eWzW5

    But that Sgt. Hammer skin... SWOON (spoilered for hugeness):
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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    oh my god

    awesome

    EDIT: I like all of those skins

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    so judgement uther has been redone to not look like judgement anymore.

    ok.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    so judgement uther has been redone to not look like judgement anymore.

    ok.

    what?

  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    Holy crap.... they're really stepping up on the quality of new skins and mounts...

    Not super impressed with the Monk skins, but master Rexxar and Frostlord are WOW...

    And I think I'm gonna end up paying full pop for Judgement Uther....

    Not so sure about fat guy Tychus though lol

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    576.png

    vs
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    Looks pretty close to me. It looks more like real armor, so I guess that's different.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Khraul wrote: »
    Not so sure about fat guy Tychus though lol

    That's 100% muscle, baby!

    Okay, maybe 20% pie.

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    Lucid_Seraph
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Khraul wrote: »
    Not so sure about fat guy Tychus though lol

    That's 100% muscle, baby!

    Okay, maybe 20% pie.

    To clarify:
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    So It Goes on
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  • JackdawGinJackdawGin Engineer New YorkRegistered User regular
    Treasure Goblin Mount!

    Onward faithful steed!

    MMMigNeurotikaLucid_Seraph
  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Unspoiling your image makes it look like Furiosa is worshipping the man-pie.

    MMMig on
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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Alternate skin for Kharazim looks like an airbender skin. Has the blue arrow on his forehead.

    GnizmoLucid_SeraphFrem
  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Alternate skin for Kharazim looks like an airbender skin. Has the blue arrow on his forehead.


    One of them makes it look like Super Saiyan Goku with the green pants and all.


    If only they'd let the hair flow freely like the thousands fists that he will be pushing into enemy faces...

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    576.png

    vs
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    Looks pretty close to me. It looks more like real armor, so I guess that's different.

    i mean, yea it's similar. but it's not judgement, it's like you tried to remake judgement now and wanted to stick a huge codpiece belt and random bits and bobs all over it. idk, i just think if you're going to make a skin based on a wow tier set, you should make it look like it exactly.

    especially when they already did!

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    The old one didn't fit their new higher resolution, higher poly count armors. I like the new Judgement armor better, just because it's more detailed.

    And that isn't a codpiece. It's like a shield built into the armor to protect his chest. Unless Uther's manhood is in the middle of his chest.

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