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[FFXIV:HW] Ye Olde Threade

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Could use work for sure, but seems generally quicker and easier than the current questing flow of:

    -Do quests
    -Unlock new duty
    -Google the dungeon/trial, hope the first few guides has something useful and not woefully outdated or or obtuse
    -(optional) Strike out on that, go to youtube and watch some awfully produced video that leaves out important mechanics and has a minute-long intro animation
    [...]

    I just go to youtube and look for the guide by either MissTiQue (sp?) or MrHappy.
    And since my only job above 35 is a BRD, I have plenty of time to watch both guides before the duty pops.

    the blessing and curse of having leveled a tank is that my queues are often instant, and i will be expected to lead the group once i'm in despite being totally new to the duty

    it's fun though, and for the most part i just hit things with my axe and get mad while looking at a cheatsheet on my other monitor for the next boss

    Lucedes
  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Could use work for sure, but seems generally quicker and easier than the current questing flow of:

    -Do quests
    -Unlock new duty
    -Google the dungeon/trial, hope the first few guides has something useful and not woefully outdated or or obtuse
    -(optional) Strike out on that, go to youtube and watch some awfully produced video that leaves out important mechanics and has a minute-long intro animation
    [...]

    I just go to youtube and look for the guide by either MissTiQue (sp?) or MrHappy.
    And since my only job above 35 is a BRD, I have plenty of time to watch both guides before the duty pops.

    the blessing and curse of having leveled a tank is that my queues are often instant, and i will be expected to lead the group once i'm in despite being totally new to the duty

    it's fun though, and for the most part i just hit things with my axe and get mad while looking at a cheatsheet on my other monitor for the next boss

    Yeah, I feel ya. I try to go "fast" enough to not frustrate those that have run this a thousand times, but I'm bouncing back and forth between the wiki and the dungeon on different monitors. Even on roulettes, where I just ran the dungeon once (possibly a month ago) while leveling but haven't been back since, so I forget all the ins and outs.

    Even worse, when the rest of my party is PS players, and they either can't/won't type any responses to questions, I'm kinda left just winging it.

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    Sorry for the multiple posts.
    Red says that this event was [...]

    This what? What did I miss?

  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    For video guides I definitely recommend Light and Melon and Mizzteq.

    Mr Happy's videos aren't bad per se, but they're put out so early they sometimes overlook/misunderstand mechanics.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Sorry for the multiple posts.
    Red says that this event was [...]

    This what? What did I miss?

    The Rising. It's a secondary event on top of the Moonfire Faire, to celebrate the anniversary of ARR.

    You can start it in Uldah.

    Commodore75
  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    i don't like video guides because

    i don't have time to watch a video of the third boss whose mechanics i already forgot because i was busy leading the group through bosses 1 and 2 while also learning them myself

    Dehumanized on
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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Could use work for sure, but seems generally quicker and easier than the current questing flow of:

    -Do quests
    -Unlock new duty
    -Google the dungeon/trial, hope the first few guides has something useful and not woefully outdated or or obtuse
    -(optional) Strike out on that, go to youtube and watch some awfully produced video that leaves out important mechanics and has a minute-long intro animation
    [...]

    I just go to youtube and look for the guide by either MissTiQue (sp?) or MrHappy.
    And since my only job above 35 is a BRD, I have plenty of time to watch both guides before the duty pops.

    the blessing and curse of having leveled a tank is that my queues are often instant, and i will be expected to lead the group once i'm in despite being totally new to the duty

    it's fun though, and for the most part i just hit things with my axe and get mad while looking at a cheatsheet on my other monitor for the next boss

    Yeah, I feel ya. I try to go "fast" enough to not frustrate those that have run this a thousand times, but I'm bouncing back and forth between the wiki and the dungeon on different monitors. Even on roulettes, where I just ran the dungeon once (possibly a month ago) while leveling but haven't been back since, so I forget all the ins and outs.

    Even worse, when the rest of my party is PS players, and they either can't/won't type any responses to questions, I'm kinda left just winging it.

    I just mention it's my first time and start pulling. If someone wants to mention something, they can, if everyone says it's the first time, I'll open the wiki.

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  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    i don't like video guides because

    i don't have time to watch a video of the third boss whose mechanics i already forgot because i was busy leading the group through bosses 1 and 2 while also learning them myself

    I don't find this to be too much of a problem with the guides for the entire dungeon are 3-4 min long.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    i don't like video guides because

    i don't have time to watch a video of the third boss whose mechanics i already forgot because i was busy leading the group through bosses 1 and 2 while also learning them myself

    I don't find this to be too much of a problem with the guides for the entire dungeon are 3-4 min long.

    ok

    i do

    DemonStacey
  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    OK.
    Red says that this event was the nicest thing a MMO ever did for her.

    We both kinda cried a little.

    Confirmed, FFXIV players are a bunch of cry-babies.

    Since I wasn't sure I would be able to complete the event, I went ahead and watched the above video.
    Yeah, that's pretty beautiful. The more I find out about this game, the more I love it ...

    Excuse me ... got a bit dusty in here ... got something in my eye, and my throat.

    Commodore75 on
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Sorry for the multiple posts.
    Red says that this event was [...]

    This what? What did I miss?

    The Rising. It's a secondary event on top of the Moonfire Faire, to celebrate the anniversary of ARR.

    You can start it in Uldah.

    The Rising is one of my favorite holidays, because it has meaning both in and out of game.

    In game, it is a memorial to those who fell at Cartenou during the Calamity (hence why Answers plays in the event areas.)

    Out of game, it's a celebration of the rebirth of the game, and a way for the development staff to say "thank you for making Eorzea your home" to the players.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    I really do hope they keep the Eighteenth Floor in the game somehow, as somewhere we can visit in the future.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I really do hope they keep the Eighteenth Floor in the game somehow, as somewhere we can visit in the future.

    You'll need to walk through a pair of countertops in the Quicksand to get there.

  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I really do hope they keep the Eighteenth Floor in the game somehow, as somewhere we can visit in the future.

    You'll need to walk through a pair of countertops in the Quicksand to get there.

    I was thinking more along the lines of using the elevator right next to Nonora and taking it there.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Since it's so fourth-wall-breaky, I'd prefer if it was kept such that you experience it through the Echo. Retain access to it by letting you ask the Wandering Minstrel in Revenant's Toll to bring you there.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    Since it's so fourth-wall-breaky, I'd prefer if it was kept such that you experience it through the Echo. Retain access to it by letting you ask the Wandering Minstrel in Revenant's Toll to bring you there.

    Also a good idea.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    oh man you know what's exciting for me personally? Void Ark is going to be the first raid that I get to run on release. When I got to 50, Syrcus Tower had been available for a long time. When I came back to the game this year, WoD had been available for a long time. So in both of those raids it was very much "no one explains anything, you're expected to know it because it's been out for over a month".

    My favorite parts of HW were dying a few times on Myath and Ravana because we were trying to devise strategies on the fly.

  • JakarrdJakarrd In the belly of OklahomaRegistered User regular
    I love how the Eighteenth Floor is a shoutout to the Thireteenth Floor movie.

    Greetings Starfighter! You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan Armada.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    I hate to advocate more spoilers in here, but maybe we should use some for this event?

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Jakarrd wrote: »
    I love how the Eighteenth Floor is a shoutout to the Thireteenth Floor movie.
    Also the best ending from Chrono Trigger. :)

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  • ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Oh wow. Somehow, the black/white/red/blue argument went completely over my head.
    i think either Blue or Red could work.

    For Blue, they could simply have you learn new monster skills during the job quests, like how Summoner gets new Egis by defeating them. They could make it a Quina/Necromancer situation by saying Blue Mages need to personally kill a potential monster to take its powers.

    For Red? Well, there's a lot of potential toys for Red Mages that have been added to the games over the years. Dualcast is the obvious one. You could have a bunch of weaker spells, but gain the ability to proc dual casts, effectively gaining Swiftcast on the next spell.

    Or they could go the Dimensions route, and fold Spellblade skills into Red Mage. Osmotic Slash alone would make for a neat MP management gimmick.

    Or, if they wanted to get really crazy? Take inspiration from Bravely Default, give Red Mages skills that empower them when they take damage, get status ailments, or dodge, and make Red Mage the first Disciple of Magic to be a Tank

    if you revisit it you also get this
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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Hmmm.
    give me a Samurai job with all of Cyann's attacks, and I'd like it a lot.

    Samurai had better be another job from Doma, if it happens

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  • KhildithKhildith Registered User regular
    I guess maybe I shouldn't have signed up for a month of game time before the Heavensward key got sent to me. Right now my days are wasting and Square Enix hasn't responded to my support ticket about whether I'll get a refund for the game key they won't send me.

    I'm afraid that if I just suck it up and buy the key from Amazon suddenly Square Enix will decide to give me the key without making me send them photo ID, and I'll end up wasting another 40 dollars.

    This whole thing is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. I figured buying directly from the source was the best way to support them, and I didn't imagine they would turn this into such a shitshow.

    I might end up having to write this off as a learning experience and give up on the game altogether.

  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    I don't quite get the mechanics behind the Animus/alexandrite melding. What controls what level materia I can meld with?

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Khildith wrote: »
    I guess maybe I shouldn't have signed up for a month of game time before the Heavensward key got sent to me. Right now my days are wasting and Square Enix hasn't responded to my support ticket about whether I'll get a refund for the game key they won't send me.

    I'm afraid that if I just suck it up and buy the key from Amazon suddenly Square Enix will decide to give me the key without making me send them photo ID, and I'll end up wasting another 40 dollars.

    This whole thing is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. I figured buying directly from the source was the best way to support them, and I didn't imagine they would turn this into such a shitshow.

    I might end up having to write this off as a learning experience and give up on the game altogether.

    SE's online shit is mind bogglingly bad, yeah. After 2 years I sorta forgot, but the reason my character's last name is Elzhand is because they thought I already tried the game with my delzhand email address so I had to trick them by signing up as [email protected] instead.

    Delzhand on
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  • Shenl742Shenl742 Registered User regular
    :stretches: Picking this back up after a few weeks of getting distracted. Been blazing through the Crystal Tower and I finally beat Leviathan-Ex (or rather...found some people who could beat it FOR me. In the run where are party finally won I was the only guy to fall off the boats...whoops)

    Question! I heard that the Rising event has HW spoilers. I wanna do the even but I've only just started Dreams of Ice....how bad are the spoilers?

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Shenl742 wrote: »
    :stretches: Picking this back up after a few weeks of getting distracted. Been blazing through the Crystal Tower and I finally beat Leviathan-Ex (or rather...found some people who could beat it FOR me. In the run where are party finally won I was the only guy to fall off the boats...whoops)

    Question! I heard that the Rising event has HW spoilers. I wanna do the even but I've only just started Dreams of Ice....how bad are the spoilers?

    If I recall correctly, The only real spoiler is the minions you get as a quest reward. They are a wind-up Iceheart, and a wind-up Yugiri, without her mask.

    But since Maskless Yugiri isn't much of a spoiler (unless you really want to preserve the mystery of her race), I'd say that the Rising is fairly tame, spoiler-wise.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    It makes reference to the final boss of HW, but only in saying that the next EX encounter is the 'final boss.'

  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Sometimes Cactpot can just go right to hell.

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    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    I did a leveling roulette on my 22 Lancer this morning and got Satasha. The tank was a 16 Gladiator. I felt bad because on boss fights and pulls I ended up tanking. I tried to give him tips since my Paladin is up to 36 but there really wasn't anything he was doing wrong. It was weird. Luckily no one got mad about it and we crushed that dungeon.

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    I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    I tanked a copperbell last night as a bard since the newbie tank was basically just not really using his aggro abilities. I gave him a tip or two that he ignored, and it's like, it's fine for copperbell because I can totally tank that as dps, but it's gonna get painful for him eventually.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Just picked up Lancer last night, 'cause I want cross-class skillz for Machinist.

    I may have fallen down another branching rabbit hole, but I'll try to keep focus.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    I bought the Before the Fall soundtrack

  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    I did a leveling roulette on my 22 Lancer this morning and got Satasha. The tank was a 16 Gladiator. I felt bad because on boss fights and pulls I ended up tanking. I tried to give him tips since my Paladin is up to 36 but there really wasn't anything he was doing wrong. It was weird. Luckily no one got mad about it and we crushed that dungeon.
    Besides spamming Flash what can they do?

  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Anyone else get disconnected and then getting a 3102 that won't clear up? (Already logged in)

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Aldo wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    I did a leveling roulette on my 22 Lancer this morning and got Satasha. The tank was a 16 Gladiator. I felt bad because on boss fights and pulls I ended up tanking. I tried to give him tips since my Paladin is up to 36 but there really wasn't anything he was doing wrong. It was weird. Luckily no one got mad about it and we crushed that dungeon.
    Besides spamming Flash what can they do?

    Put the bonus attributes into Strength, ensure their weapon is up to date, balance threat generation so there's only enough to hold healing threat while everything else is diverted into single target. Use Fight or Flight to assist with threat generation. Hit buttons harder; no seriously, getting every GCD that you can makes a big difference.

    The only times when threat can be really problematic because of level sync are in Toto-Rak for Warriors/Marauders (No full combo vs Level 26 DPS that start to get their full primary combos) and Cutter's Cry for PLDs (Level 40 traits vs no Shield Oath)

    Takel on
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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    I bought the Before the Fall soundtrack

    I was looking at this but I couldn't find a purchase option and I couldn't figure out what came with the soundtrack. I was hoping it came with everything from Reborn through to Heavensward but I can't tell.
    Takel wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    I did a leveling roulette on my 22 Lancer this morning and got Satasha. The tank was a 16 Gladiator. I felt bad because on boss fights and pulls I ended up tanking. I tried to give him tips since my Paladin is up to 36 but there really wasn't anything he was doing wrong. It was weird. Luckily no one got mad about it and we crushed that dungeon.
    Besides spamming Flash what can they do?

    Put the bonus attributes into Strength, ensure their weapon is up to date, balance threat generation so there's only enough to hold healing threat while everything else is diverted into single target. Use Fight or Flight to assist with threat generation. Hit buttons harder; no seriously, getting every GCD that you can makes a big difference.

    The only times when threat can be really problematic because of level sync are in Toto-Rak for Warriors/Marauders (No full combo vs Level 26 DPS that start to get their full primary combos) and Cutter's Cry for PLDs (Level 40 traits vs no Shield Oath)

    Yea, there was unfortunately not a lot he could do to keep aggro from me. I have a lot of aetherial gear on my Lancer and I had a lot of stat points dumped into Strength.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Takel wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    I did a leveling roulette on my 22 Lancer this morning and got Satasha. The tank was a 16 Gladiator. I felt bad because on boss fights and pulls I ended up tanking. I tried to give him tips since my Paladin is up to 36 but there really wasn't anything he was doing wrong. It was weird. Luckily no one got mad about it and we crushed that dungeon.
    Besides spamming Flash what can they do?

    Put the bonus attributes into Strength, ensure their weapon is up to date, balance threat generation so there's only enough to hold healing threat while everything else is diverted into single target. Use Fight or Flight to assist with threat generation. Hit buttons harder; no seriously, getting every GCD that you can makes a big difference.

    The only times when threat can be really problematic because of level sync are in Toto-Rak for Warriors/Marauders (No full combo vs Level 26 DPS that start to get their full primary combos) and Cutter's Cry for PLDs (Level 40 traits vs no Shield Oath)

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    I bought the Before the Fall soundtrack

    I was looking at this but I couldn't find a purchase option and I couldn't figure out what came with the soundtrack. I was hoping it came with everything from Reborn through to Heavensward but I can't tell.

    Track list is here. There's also a couple 'secret' songs that are bonus arrangements and the Great Gubal Library song for whatever reason:
    http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/ff14/Before_the_Fall/en/

    You can buy it on the Square-Enix site. I was at PAX and just picked it up from their booth.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Heavensward post Bismarck:
    Really not a fan of Yshtola's new attire. Doesn't fit her at all.

    Her original outfit was much more simple and charming.

    Nice to have my coolest buddy back though.

    Dr. Chaos on
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