I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
It's hard to know what you're actually getting without some semi-serious digging. Most people have never heard of Super Flower etc. Easier to go check out places like the PA PC blog and look into the picks. Blog is a little outdated now, I think, but still a good place to start.
"For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men. Not women. Not beasts...this you can trust."
PC Power & Cooling definitely was at one time my most trusted PSU brand. The 500W supply I paid $200 for in 2006 is still in perfect condition and has run daily for 9 years now.
I have played Arkham Knight on my 980 with everything cranked to ultra and every option pegged at 1900x1200. I get like 50 FPS constant with the only slow down when you call in the bat mobile, lots of smoke all of a sudden from the tires and when I enter a different zone.
I'm also running it on an AMD 8350 over clocked to 4.8. So my system is no where near top of the line.
" I am a warrior, so that my son may be a merchant, so that his son may be a poet.”
― John Quincy Adams
I think the early patches may have covered the worst of it too. I heard that some stuff (like rain) just plain isn't working like it does on consoles, but I have no comparison
I think the early patches may have covered the worst of it too. I heard that some stuff (like rain) just plain isn't working like it does on consoles, but I have no comparison
@Big Classy has played on both, although his system isn't high end he's stated PS4 was far better an experience.
Yeah I have an AMD r9 290x and an i5 quad core cpu and it runs like shit whenever I move. Staying still looks great but nowhere near as gorgeous as on the PS 4 for me. Those lovely rain effects add a lot.
I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
I used to have two 970s probably won't double cards with a 980ti but you never know.
I don't know how personnel/procedures have shaken out over time but PC Power and Cooling was purchased by OCZ. When OCZ went bust the PSU division was spun off into Firepower. Super Flower is a great OEM, but the Silencer III is an older platform. The full modular EVGA G2 supplies (for example) are Gold rated, and well reviewed, supplies based on a newer platform.
I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
I used to have two 970s probably won't double cards with a 980ti but you never know.
I don't know how personnel/procedures have shaken out over time but PC Power and Cooling was purchased by OCZ. When OCZ went bust the PSU division was spun off into Firepower. Super Flower is a great OEM, but the Silencer III is an older platform. The full modular EVGA G2 supplies (for example) are Gold rated, and well reviewed, supplies based on a newer platform.
I saw this one on sale for $89 the other day but the reviews of people blowing out their PC scared me away. I don't know if they had legitimate problems or these people building their machines are complete idiots.
First the fans didn't seem to start. Even now, it seems to be making an odd, seriously penetrating buzzing noise. I connected the pump to the CPU header, and the fans to the SYS FAN1 header. I had to set Fan 1 to maximum in the BIOS before they would start, and now lowered them to normal and they still seemed to be spinning . I have no idea how to check if everything is going well.
I'm starting to think either my mobo has some problems with fans, or something. How can I even begin to diagnose any problems, here?
I'm one of the three people that can run Arkham knight fine apparently. Looks great!
yea, you have a Titan right? Arkham knight runs ok if you basically brute force it to with the highest end hardware.
I was actually pretty surprised how well AK ran on my build (i5-4690 & 970). Sure, it felt like it was locked at 30 fps, but it was stable. Never really saw any drastic frame drops or glitches*
*until it got patched; I noticed a somewhat more unsteady fps afterwards
First the fans didn't seem to start. Even now, it seems to be making an odd, seriously penetrating buzzing noise. I connected the pump to the CPU header, and the fans to the SYS FAN1 header. I had to set Fan 1 to maximum in the BIOS before they would start, and now lowered them to normal and they still seemed to be spinning . I have no idea how to check if everything is going well.
I'm starting to think either my mobo has some problems with fans, or something. How can I even begin to diagnose any problems, here?
if you connected the pump to the CPU fan header, you need to make sure the CPU fan is set to 100% in BIOS
The fan can be set to auto or whatever, but the pump needs to always be at 100% voltage
First the fans didn't seem to start. Even now, it seems to be making an odd, seriously penetrating buzzing noise. I connected the pump to the CPU header, and the fans to the SYS FAN1 header. I had to set Fan 1 to maximum in the BIOS before they would start, and now lowered them to normal and they still seemed to be spinning . I have no idea how to check if everything is going well.
I'm starting to think either my mobo has some problems with fans, or something. How can I even begin to diagnose any problems, here?
Make sure whatever your pump is connected do is set to 100%.
Personally, I would connect the pump to sysfan1 (set to 100%) and the fan to the CPU header, and let the cpu temp control the fan speed.
I changed that, and at least the fans now actually seem to start. But the buzzing noise continues unabated, completely drowning every other sound coming from the PC.
I think Enermax simply lied in the noise department. The question is how did reviews say this was a fairly quiet cooling setup, because hell, the stock intel cooler made a hell of a lot less noise than this does. My Radeon 280 OC under load makes a hell of a lot less noise than this does with only chrome open!
I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
I used to have two 970s probably won't double cards with a 980ti but you never know.
I don't know how personnel/procedures have shaken out over time but PC Power and Cooling was purchased by OCZ. When OCZ went bust the PSU division was spun off into Firepower. Super Flower is a great OEM, but the Silencer III is an older platform. The full modular EVGA G2 supplies (for example) are Gold rated, and well reviewed, supplies based on a newer platform.
I saw this one on sale for $89 the other day but the reviews of people blowing out their PC scared me away. I don't know if they had legitimate problems or these people building their machines are complete idiots.
Both, I'm betting. The simple if unfortunate fact is that QA doesn't always catch some stuff, and even if they do a cross-country shipment isn't always treated well by our postal system. Statistically, someone is going to buy a supply that goes wonky. I don't see much that indicates any one particular quality supply is more or less likely to do so than one from another similar manufacturer.
To be honest, replacing the fans on my h80 was one of the first things I did anyway since the stock fans aren't that great
All my other fans are 140mm, I'm afraid, because R4 Fractal case.
That said, I am really starting to think the noise is that I might have gotten a weird pump more than anything. The fans seem to spin too slowly on idle to be the cause of such a consistent shrill REEEEEE sound, I think.
I changed that, and at least the fans now actually seem to start. But the buzzing noise continues unabated, completely drowning every other sound coming from the PC.
I think Enermax simply lied in the noise department. The question is how did reviews say this was a fairly quiet cooling setup, because hell, the stock intel cooler made a hell of a lot less noise than this does. My Radeon 280 OC under load makes a hell of a lot less noise than this does with only chrome open!
If it's the fan, the noise should stop if you use a pencil eraser or your finger and put pressure on the fan hub to stop the fan while it's spinning.
If the pump is buzzing yeah, that's a problem. RMA that sucker back to Enermax and get a new one.
I changed that, and at least the fans now actually seem to start. But the buzzing noise continues unabated, completely drowning every other sound coming from the PC.
I think Enermax simply lied in the noise department. The question is how did reviews say this was a fairly quiet cooling setup, because hell, the stock intel cooler made a hell of a lot less noise than this does. My Radeon 280 OC under load makes a hell of a lot less noise than this does with only chrome open!
If it's the fan, the noise should stop if you use a pencil eraser or your finger and put pressure on the fan hub to stop the fan while it's spinning.
If the pump is buzzing yeah, that's a problem. RMA that sucker back to Enermax and get a new one.
Seems like the best idea. Right now it's way too late to get back to dismantling the computer again, so I'll leave it for tomorrow, but it's pretty clear a return is going to happen here.
Dammit. Got the notification email from evga that the 980ti hybrid was back in stock, but fifteen minutes later when I check my email and get to their store it's already sold out again.
Dammit. Got the notification email from evga that the 980ti hybrid was back in stock, but fifteen minutes later when I check my email and get to their store it's already sold out again.
Oh well, more money for Vegas.
So take the money you were going to spend on the 980 Ti, put it all on Black, and then boom, when you're home you'll have enough for two 980 TI's,
I'm probably really really dumb about this, but I'll only get ASUS boards because of how familiar I am with the BIOS. Like I know it's all essentially the same, but it's the same reason I use an iPhone. I just know where all the settings are and how to do what I want with it.
I almost bought a new PSU today just to reduce wire clutter. I literally have this but not modular...
That's a really crazy proprietary modular connector setup.
Seems unnecessary/like it'll be a hassle should you ever need to buy/use more (or shorter) cables.
It's the brand I trust most, has great reviews, and had 2 previous power supplies from. Also dead silent.
It's Super Flower OEMed, which is fine, but it's hardly the best performing or best built supply using one of their platforms (especially given that it's a 2 year old design), and I admit to being surprised to hear someone describe a company formerly owned by OCZ as their most trusted brand. Not a bad supply by any means, though.
I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
I used to have two 970s probably won't double cards with a 980ti but you never know.
I don't know how personnel/procedures have shaken out over time but PC Power and Cooling was purchased by OCZ. When OCZ went bust the PSU division was spun off into Firepower. Super Flower is a great OEM, but the Silencer III is an older platform. The full modular EVGA G2 supplies (for example) are Gold rated, and well reviewed, supplies based on a newer platform.
I saw this one on sale for $89 the other day but the reviews of people blowing out their PC scared me away. I don't know if they had legitimate problems or these people building their machines are complete idiots.
Call me a brand whore if you will, but I am going to recommend everybody buy platinum-rated SeaSonic PSUs for what must be the eleventy kajillionth time by now.
Yeah you can't go wrong with them and to be honest, power supply is the one area you don't want to go cheap on. When there's a problem it's the hardest component to nail down.
Yeah you can't go wrong with them and to be honest, power supply is the one area you don't want to go cheap on. When there's a problem it's the hardest component to nail down.
actually, it's fairly easy to nail down, because pretty much anything that isn't a direct hardware failure is almost always power supply.
The danger is that a bad/cheap power supply is more likely to kill other things if it decides to surge or freak out.
So what does that make your final cost for the card? ~$500?
Also, my PCP&C 750W is going on about 6 years old, now, and it's still chugging along with no problems.
I just got an Amazon store card, because they were offering a $40 gift card with new accounts, and the normal 5% cash back with their Prime store cards.
So $669.95 + S/H and tax (damn you MA) = $717 - $40 gift card - $33.50 (5% cash back) - $108 refund
So in the end I got a $680 card for $535.50. That also means I upgraded to a single card that equals or betters my 2x GTX 970 SLI setup for $165 less.
So what does that make your final cost for the card? ~$500?
Also, my PCP&C 750W is going on about 6 years old, now, and it's still chugging along with no problems.
I just got an Amazon store card, because they were offering a $40 gift card with new accounts, and the normal 5% cash back with their Prime store cards.
So $669.95 + S/H and tax (damn you MA) = $717 - $40 gift card - $33.50 (5% cash back) - $108 refund
So in the end I got a $680 card for $535.50. That also means I upgraded to a single card that equals or betters my 2x GTX 970 SLI setup for $165 less.
So what does that make your final cost for the card? ~$500?
Also, my PCP&C 750W is going on about 6 years old, now, and it's still chugging along with no problems.
I just got an Amazon store card, because they were offering a $40 gift card with new accounts, and the normal 5% cash back with their Prime store cards.
So $669.95 + S/H and tax (damn you MA) = $717 - $40 gift card - $33.50 (5% cash back) - $108 refund
So in the end I got a $680 card for $535.50. That also means I upgraded to a single card that equals or betters my 2x GTX 970 SLI setup for $165 less.
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I kind of hate you a little, lol.
Amazon customer service has never been anything but outstanding, in my experience.
But now I'm thinking they're just such an absurd online shopping juggernaut that they can afford to just give me $108 for literally no reason -- probably so I'll tell other Internet Nerds about how great Amazon customer service is.
So what does that make your final cost for the card? ~$500?
Also, my PCP&C 750W is going on about 6 years old, now, and it's still chugging along with no problems.
I just got an Amazon store card, because they were offering a $40 gift card with new accounts, and the normal 5% cash back with their Prime store cards.
So $669.95 + S/H and tax (damn you MA) = $717 - $40 gift card - $33.50 (5% cash back) - $108 refund
So in the end I got a $680 card for $535.50. That also means I upgraded to a single card that equals or betters my 2x GTX 970 SLI setup for $165 less.
^____________________^
I kind of hate you a little, lol.
Amazon customer service has never been anything but outstanding, in my experience.
But now I'm thinking they're just such an absurd online shopping juggernaut that they can afford to just give me $108 for literally no reason -- probably so I'll tell other Internet Nerds about how great Amazon customer service is.
I once had UPS "lose" (read: likely destroy) a package that I sent where I was re-using a box from Amazon. I had thought I had gotten all the barcodes and such off of it, but apparently I hadn't because I got a refund notice from Amazon for the items in the original shipment. I called them about the error and let them know that they didn't owe me anything as I received all my goods from them, and this was a UPS issue. They told me to keep the money. UPS rejected my claim for the actual goods lost and gave no reason.
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I thought it was PC Power & Cooling, didn't realize it was another brand below. I'm having a hard time picking a good, modular PSU. Almost all the good ones have reviews that scare the pants off me. My current one is 760w, which may be overkill for 3 SSD 2HDD and a 980ti.
edit: according to this calculator I'd only need ~500w min http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/PSUEngine2
I used to have two 970s probably won't double cards with a 980ti but you never know.
yea, you have a Titan right? Arkham knight runs ok if you basically brute force it to with the highest end hardware.
Last post was 2012....
I'm also running it on an AMD 8350 over clocked to 4.8. So my system is no where near top of the line.
― John Quincy Adams
@Big Classy has played on both, although his system isn't high end he's stated PS4 was far better an experience.
Yeah, but the decent companies and crap companies haven't changed (mostly/probably).
@cardboard delusions Hardware Secrets is the place to go for great PSU reviews:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/category/power/
They recently redesigned their website and it's worse. Can't get to a good list of everything.
I'm working on it!
I don't know how personnel/procedures have shaken out over time but PC Power and Cooling was purchased by OCZ. When OCZ went bust the PSU division was spun off into Firepower. Super Flower is a great OEM, but the Silencer III is an older platform. The full modular EVGA G2 supplies (for example) are Gold rated, and well reviewed, supplies based on a newer platform.
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I saw this one on sale for $89 the other day but the reviews of people blowing out their PC scared me away. I don't know if they had legitimate problems or these people building their machines are complete idiots.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8009563&SID=bc8cf6ca26514293b103c0bbd88deaaf&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16817438034&cm_sp=
This is a hilarious quote given everything else.
Karma counts for something these days.
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First the fans didn't seem to start. Even now, it seems to be making an odd, seriously penetrating buzzing noise. I connected the pump to the CPU header, and the fans to the SYS FAN1 header. I had to set Fan 1 to maximum in the BIOS before they would start, and now lowered them to normal and they still seemed to be spinning . I have no idea how to check if everything is going well.
I'm starting to think either my mobo has some problems with fans, or something. How can I even begin to diagnose any problems, here?
I was actually pretty surprised how well AK ran on my build (i5-4690 & 970). Sure, it felt like it was locked at 30 fps, but it was stable. Never really saw any drastic frame drops or glitches*
*until it got patched; I noticed a somewhat more unsteady fps afterwards
if you connected the pump to the CPU fan header, you need to make sure the CPU fan is set to 100% in BIOS
The fan can be set to auto or whatever, but the pump needs to always be at 100% voltage
Make sure whatever your pump is connected do is set to 100%.
Personally, I would connect the pump to sysfan1 (set to 100%) and the fan to the CPU header, and let the cpu temp control the fan speed.
I think Enermax simply lied in the noise department. The question is how did reviews say this was a fairly quiet cooling setup, because hell, the stock intel cooler made a hell of a lot less noise than this does. My Radeon 280 OC under load makes a hell of a lot less noise than this does with only chrome open!
Do you have a spare 120mm you can test with?
To be honest, replacing the fans on my h80 was one of the first things I did anyway since the stock fans aren't that great
Both, I'm betting. The simple if unfortunate fact is that QA doesn't always catch some stuff, and even if they do a cross-country shipment isn't always treated well by our postal system. Statistically, someone is going to buy a supply that goes wonky. I don't see much that indicates any one particular quality supply is more or less likely to do so than one from another similar manufacturer.
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All my other fans are 140mm, I'm afraid, because R4 Fractal case.
That said, I am really starting to think the noise is that I might have gotten a weird pump more than anything. The fans seem to spin too slowly on idle to be the cause of such a consistent shrill REEEEEE sound, I think.
If it's the fan, the noise should stop if you use a pencil eraser or your finger and put pressure on the fan hub to stop the fan while it's spinning.
If the pump is buzzing yeah, that's a problem. RMA that sucker back to Enermax and get a new one.
Seems like the best idea. Right now it's way too late to get back to dismantling the computer again, so I'll leave it for tomorrow, but it's pretty clear a return is going to happen here.
Oh well, more money for Vegas.
So take the money you were going to spend on the 980 Ti, put it all on Black, and then boom, when you're home you'll have enough for two 980 TI's,
The perfect plan.
Call me a brand whore if you will, but I am going to recommend everybody buy platinum-rated SeaSonic PSUs for what must be the eleventy kajillionth time by now.
actually, it's fairly easy to nail down, because pretty much anything that isn't a direct hardware failure is almost always power supply.
The danger is that a bad/cheap power supply is more likely to kill other things if it decides to surge or freak out.
Do not skimp on them.
Just wow. Gof bless you, Amazon.
Also, my PCP&C 750W is going on about 6 years old, now, and it's still chugging along with no problems.
I just got an Amazon store card, because they were offering a $40 gift card with new accounts, and the normal 5% cash back with their Prime store cards.
So $669.95 + S/H and tax (damn you MA) = $717 - $40 gift card - $33.50 (5% cash back) - $108 refund
So in the end I got a $680 card for $535.50. That also means I upgraded to a single card that equals or betters my 2x GTX 970 SLI setup for $165 less.
^____________________^
I kind of hate you a little, lol.
Amazon customer service has never been anything but outstanding, in my experience.
But now I'm thinking they're just such an absurd online shopping juggernaut that they can afford to just give me $108 for literally no reason -- probably so I'll tell other Internet Nerds about how great Amazon customer service is.