Ok, so I was installing the stock cooler for my i5 and there wasn't enough slack in the fan's power cable so.....I had to pull the heatsink up and rotate it. Should I clean the thermal paste off and reapply it?
I'm really beginning to hate my fucking EVGA 770 ACX. I just pulled all my drive bays out of Define R4 and have two intake fans in front with only one out in the back, but still it pushes 80c when being taxed.
How much of an improvement would a 970 net me in performance?
I'm really beginning to hate my fucking EVGA 770 ACX. I just pulled all my drive bays out of Define R4 and have two intake fans in front with only one out in the back, but still it pushes 80c when being taxed.
How much of an improvement would a 970 net me in performance?
So I know this isn't your exact question but just as an FYI I looked up a few benchmarks for your vieo card and 80C seems perfectly normal. mid-high 70's is pretty standard for a high end-ish video card unless it has some crazy cooling solution. most models of the GTX970 will be in the mid 70's under load as well.
I'm really beginning to hate my fucking EVGA 770 ACX. I just pulled all my drive bays out of Define R4 and have two intake fans in front with only one out in the back, but still it pushes 80c when being taxed.
How much of an improvement would a 970 net me in performance?
So I know this isn't your exact question but just as an FYI I looked up a few benchmarks for your vieo card and 80C seems perfectly normal. mid-high 70's is pretty standard for a high end-ish video card unless it has some crazy cooling solution. most models of the GTX970 will be in the mid 70's under load as well.
Video cards get hot.
The difference between my 770 and 970 was night and day.
Asus tells me that my Warehouse 980's warranty is good until 4/22/2018, which is presumably 3 years after the manufacture date. Doesn't matter that it was purchased used or not. I'm also checking with Amazon to see if they'll give me a promo code for MGS:V.
Didn't see the buy it now price, but essentially a new 970 can be had for ~280-300 with MIR. What are your ultimate goals for a 980? I sell my cards all the time, never buy used, but they are in great condition. Can't say the same for others out there but just check the feedback score and see if they sold cards before.
Didn't see the buy it now price, but essentially a new 970 can be had for ~280-300 with MIR. What are your ultimate goals for a 980? I sell my cards all the time, never buy used, but they are in great condition. Can't say the same for others out there but just check the feedback score and see if they sold cards before.
I've sold a GTX 560 Ti, 770, and 970 (through local craigslist in Miami and Boston and here on the forums, respectively) and not had issues; never bought a used vidja-card, though.
In person, I imagine it's really just a crapshoot as to whether the person you're buying from is an asshole and will do right by you should you run into problems after the sale. Seems better online, just because Amazon and eBay seem to have robust buyer-protection policies.
I've been looking at local prices lately, and I'm astounded people seem to think that a 700 series Nvidia is worth only about $20 less than a 900 series. Used.
I guess they're trying to recoup their investment, but between depreciation and the fact that I'm taking a risk buying from a complete stranger, there's no way I'd consider a 700 series for any thing less than 50% of its original price.
I've been looking at local prices lately, and I'm astounded people seem to think that a 700 series Nvidia is worth only about $20 less than a 900 series. Used.
I guess they're trying to recoup their investment, but between depreciation and the fact that I'm taking a risk buying from a complete stranger, there's no way I'd consider a 700 series for any thing less than 50% of its original price.
well, "free market" and all that. If people are willing to buy the cards for those prices, no reason not to sell them for it. That doesn't mean you will, or I would, or that anyone should, but there obviously people who are, otherwise the prices would drop.
I've been looking at local prices lately, and I'm astounded people seem to think that a 700 series Nvidia is worth only about $20 less than a 900 series. Used.
I guess they're trying to recoup their investment, but between depreciation and the fact that I'm taking a risk buying from a complete stranger, there's no way I'd consider a 700 series for any thing less than 50% of its original price.
well, "free market" and all that. If people are willing to buy the cards for those prices, no reason not to sell them for it. That doesn't mean you will, or I would, or that anyone should, but there obviously people who are, otherwise the prices would drop.
You also see a decent amount of cards get bought and shipped overseas because the mark-up outside the US is very high. So if you have a lagged demand for 700 series cards or people less informed about the latest and greatest, they could just be backfilling demand.
I've been looking at local prices lately, and I'm astounded people seem to think that a 700 series Nvidia is worth only about $20 less than a 900 series. Used.
I guess they're trying to recoup their investment, but between depreciation and the fact that I'm taking a risk buying from a complete stranger, there's no way I'd consider a 700 series for any thing less than 50% of its original price.
well, "free market" and all that. If people are willing to buy the cards for those prices, no reason not to sell them for it. That doesn't mean you will, or I would, or that anyone should, but there obviously people who are, otherwise the prices would drop.
You also see a decent amount of cards get bought and shipped overseas because the mark-up outside the US is very high. So if you have a lagged demand for 700 series cards or people less informed about the latest and greatest, they could just be backfilling demand.
I think it's very unlikely this person will actually sell it for that. You get messages from people on craigslist all the time that are trying to offer you 50% of your asking price, or to trade you something for it instead of buy the item, etc.
This guy offered me $200 + a GTX 460 for my 970. Like, what even.
On the other hand... this guy bought my whole PC back in the summer of 2013 for $800... and asked if it would play Minecraft well.
I told him it would definitely play Minecraft well -- which was not at all untrue. If people've got money to burn...
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Anyone have experience with using a dedicated portable AC unit to cool a PC?
>_>
I would worry about condensation on various parts if you cool the inside of your case too much. I would probably just be inclined to direct some air from the AC towards your PC, rather than a duct straight from the AC into the PC.
Right now my PC just sits next to the window-mounted AC unit in my room. The unit blows down to the floor directly next to the PC, so it gets a good amount of cooled air.
I was doing an hours-long marathon of Cities over the weekend, which taxes both my CPU and GPU pretty much the same. Even with the AC going full-blast, the side-panel off, and a small desk fan blowing cooled air directly into the side of the PC, it was still sitting at mid- to high-60s.
It's very unlikely I would actually do this... but I am kind of interested, in a purely academic way, in how feasible it would be to have a floor-standing portable AC unit blow chilled air directly into a PC's intake through ducting.
just eyeballing it off looking at my window unit you would just need:
1. 4"x10"x5" torpedo register duct to go onto the ac cold air outlet
2. couple of flexible 4" dryer ducting
3. 4"x10"x7" wall stack register to go onto the ac intake
4. roll of foil tape
5. some #6x1/4" metal screws
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Ended up returning my Sager NP8760 for a refund. Sager nor XoticPC wanted to do shit about the CPU fan issue, so I said just give my money back.
Now I've got my eyes on the Aorus X3 Plus, which is their 13.9" machine with an i7 and a 970m. I always wanted something more portable, but kept trying to go cheaper...but I finally said F'it. The only serious options in the 13-14" inch space with good GPU's are the Razer Blade, which is a nice PC but over priced, the Aorus X3 Plus and the Gigabyte P34W (which is just the cheaper, less well built version of the Aorus X3 Plus). I settled on the Aorus because it's just a nicer Gigabyte, and cheaper than the Razer Blade.
Of course, knowing how this laptop saga has been going for me, I'll just end up with the Razer Blade in the end and wonder where all my money went.
Edit: Bottom line, for a true gaming PC, a mini-fridge just can't keep up with the heat output. I would assume that a dedicated A/C unit would certainly make a difference for air temps, but I don't think the cost:time wasted:cooling efficiency ratio would be particularly favorable.
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Between you and me, Peggy, I smoked this Juul and it did UNTHINKABLE things to my mind and body...
I really want to try a mineral oil PC one day. It doesn't really add that much complexity to the build.
It's not worth the hassle, imo. It doesn't add much complexity, but you can randomly have problems without a clear reason what's causing them, and there's very little support from manufacturers for doing oil cooling. It's also really messy.
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I really want to try a mineral oil PC one day. It doesn't really add that much complexity to the build.
It's not worth the hassle, imo. It doesn't add much complexity, but you can randomly have problems without a clear reason what's causing them, and there's very little support from manufacturers for doing oil cooling. It's also really messy.
I would consider doing one for an overkill HTPC, so I could have it on display in the living room. I don't think I'd do that with my main PC though.
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I really want to try a mineral oil PC one day. It doesn't really add that much complexity to the build.
It's not worth the hassle, imo. It doesn't add much complexity, but you can randomly have problems without a clear reason what's causing them, and there's very little support from manufacturers for doing oil cooling. It's also really messy.
I would consider doing one for an overkill HTPC, so I could have it on display in the living room. I don't think I'd do that with my main PC though.
I feel like having a vat of simmering oil with a bunch of LEDs blinking in it might distract from the viewing experience.
I really want to try a mineral oil PC one day. It doesn't really add that much complexity to the build.
It's not worth the hassle, imo. It doesn't add much complexity, but you can randomly have problems without a clear reason what's causing them, and there's very little support from manufacturers for doing oil cooling. It's also really messy.
I would consider doing one for an overkill HTPC, so I could have it on display in the living room. I don't think I'd do that with my main PC though.
I feel like having a vat of simmering oil with a bunch of LEDs blinking in it might distract from the viewing experience.
New comp is up and running finally. There were a few minor hiccups but nothing too serious. First time building a computer from scratch so it took me pretty much all day but it booted up the first time so...yay! It's very quiet.
I did end up returning the Corsair 780 case though. It just wasn't working out. I noticed it was missing a few things(motherboard screws, a few i/o port covers, and the rear exhaust fan) when I went to start hooking things up. The motherboard wasn't lining up correctly with some of the spacers either although that might have been because the i/o shield wasn't in all the way. Anyways, I got the Fractal R5 instead. Very happy with it. It's not as convenient to get the sides off but I think it's probably a bit more durable. No side window like the Corsair but I probably would have ended up breaking that thing eventually. I was able to salvage my video card from the old comp and....that's it. I was going to salvage the dvd drive but the data cable it uses is obsolete now.
I ended up over budget after I was done(upgrading the case, new surge protector, cables, thermal compound, cpu cooler, exchanged the speakers for something a little better, canned air, new optical drive) but it was worth it. Time to start saving for an SSD now.
Edit: Guild Wars 2 is soooo purdy now and all of that came from upgrading the cpu.
Anyone have experience with using a dedicated portable AC unit to cool a PC?
>_>
I would worry about condensation on various parts if you cool the inside of your case too much. I would probably just be inclined to direct some air from the AC towards your PC, rather than a duct straight from the AC into the PC.
Technically as long as your components are warmer than the incoming air you should be fine (water won't condense on a hot surface like it will on a cold surface), but sub-ambient cooling always carries a risk.
Anyone have experience with using a dedicated portable AC unit to cool a PC?
>_>
I would worry about condensation on various parts if you cool the inside of your case too much. I would probably just be inclined to direct some air from the AC towards your PC, rather than a duct straight from the AC into the PC.
Technically as long as your components are warmer than the incoming air you should be fine (water won't condense on a hot surface like it will on a cold surface), but sub-ambient cooling always carries a risk.
I feel like the difference wouldn't be enough to cause actual condensation.
Plus most AC units have the added benefit of acting as dehumidifiers, so at least the incoming chilled air will be (relatively) dry.
a friend of a friend just built a PC with an R9 390. I just looked it up and it has 8GBs of VRAM. That seems like an awful lot and I got to thinking, are there any games that would use more than the 4GBs of a 970 or most of the 8GBs of a 390 if you were only playing at 1080p?
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Frak. Well, off to the store I go then.
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How much of an improvement would a 970 net me in performance?
So I know this isn't your exact question but just as an FYI I looked up a few benchmarks for your vieo card and 80C seems perfectly normal. mid-high 70's is pretty standard for a high end-ish video card unless it has some crazy cooling solution. most models of the GTX970 will be in the mid 70's under load as well.
Video cards get hot.
The difference between my 770 and 970 was night and day.
Way better performance -- but 20C cooler.
EDIT: Some numbers. NB:
Hooray!
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Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
Didn't see the buy it now price, but essentially a new 970 can be had for ~280-300 with MIR. What are your ultimate goals for a 980? I sell my cards all the time, never buy used, but they are in great condition. Can't say the same for others out there but just check the feedback score and see if they sold cards before.
I've sold a GTX 560 Ti, 770, and 970 (through local craigslist in Miami and Boston and here on the forums, respectively) and not had issues; never bought a used vidja-card, though.
In person, I imagine it's really just a crapshoot as to whether the person you're buying from is an asshole and will do right by you should you run into problems after the sale. Seems better online, just because Amazon and eBay seem to have robust buyer-protection policies.
I guess they're trying to recoup their investment, but between depreciation and the fact that I'm taking a risk buying from a complete stranger, there's no way I'd consider a 700 series for any thing less than 50% of its original price.
well, "free market" and all that. If people are willing to buy the cards for those prices, no reason not to sell them for it. That doesn't mean you will, or I would, or that anyone should, but there obviously people who are, otherwise the prices would drop.
You also see a decent amount of cards get bought and shipped overseas because the mark-up outside the US is very high. So if you have a lagged demand for 700 series cards or people less informed about the latest and greatest, they could just be backfilling demand.
I think it's very unlikely this person will actually sell it for that. You get messages from people on craigslist all the time that are trying to offer you 50% of your asking price, or to trade you something for it instead of buy the item, etc.
This guy offered me $200 + a GTX 460 for my 970. Like, what even.
On the other hand... this guy bought my whole PC back in the summer of 2013 for $800... and asked if it would play Minecraft well.
I told him it would definitely play Minecraft well -- which was not at all untrue. If people've got money to burn...
Easy enough to do on craigslist if you're in a major metro area.
Anyone have experience with using a dedicated portable AC unit to cool a PC?
>_>
seems way overkill and a huge power usage.
But it wouldn't be that hard, just need to rig up 2 ducts, one going to the ac intake, and then a return to the pc.
Probably be more efficient and easier though to just stick the PC in a small bar fridge.
I would worry about condensation on various parts if you cool the inside of your case too much. I would probably just be inclined to direct some air from the AC towards your PC, rather than a duct straight from the AC into the PC.
I was doing an hours-long marathon of Cities over the weekend, which taxes both my CPU and GPU pretty much the same. Even with the AC going full-blast, the side-panel off, and a small desk fan blowing cooled air directly into the side of the PC, it was still sitting at mid- to high-60s.
It's very unlikely I would actually do this... but I am kind of interested, in a purely academic way, in how feasible it would be to have a floor-standing portable AC unit blow chilled air directly into a PC's intake through ducting.
1. 4"x10"x5" torpedo register duct to go onto the ac cold air outlet
2. couple of flexible 4" dryer ducting
3. 4"x10"x7" wall stack register to go onto the ac intake
4. roll of foil tape
5. some #6x1/4" metal screws
adjust the size of the registers to your ac unit.
Nah, seems like a lot of work. Just take it back to that computer repair place you went to and ask them to do it.
Now I've got my eyes on the Aorus X3 Plus, which is their 13.9" machine with an i7 and a 970m. I always wanted something more portable, but kept trying to go cheaper...but I finally said F'it. The only serious options in the 13-14" inch space with good GPU's are the Razer Blade, which is a nice PC but over priced, the Aorus X3 Plus and the Gigabyte P34W (which is just the cheaper, less well built version of the Aorus X3 Plus). I settled on the Aorus because it's just a nicer Gigabyte, and cheaper than the Razer Blade.
Of course, knowing how this laptop saga has been going for me, I'll just end up with the Razer Blade in the end and wonder where all my money went.
How timely! What does the Linus Media Group have to say on the subject?
PC Build in a Fridge... Does It Work??
Edit: Bottom line, for a true gaming PC, a mini-fridge just can't keep up with the heat output. I would assume that a dedicated A/C unit would certainly make a difference for air temps, but I don't think the cost:time wasted:cooling efficiency ratio would be particularly favorable.
It's not worth the hassle, imo. It doesn't add much complexity, but you can randomly have problems without a clear reason what's causing them, and there's very little support from manufacturers for doing oil cooling. It's also really messy.
I would consider doing one for an overkill HTPC, so I could have it on display in the living room. I don't think I'd do that with my main PC though.
I feel like having a vat of simmering oil with a bunch of LEDs blinking in it might distract from the viewing experience.
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Not for my daughter it wouldn't.
I did end up returning the Corsair 780 case though. It just wasn't working out. I noticed it was missing a few things(motherboard screws, a few i/o port covers, and the rear exhaust fan) when I went to start hooking things up. The motherboard wasn't lining up correctly with some of the spacers either although that might have been because the i/o shield wasn't in all the way. Anyways, I got the Fractal R5 instead. Very happy with it. It's not as convenient to get the sides off but I think it's probably a bit more durable. No side window like the Corsair but I probably would have ended up breaking that thing eventually. I was able to salvage my video card from the old comp and....that's it. I was going to salvage the dvd drive but the data cable it uses is obsolete now.
I ended up over budget after I was done(upgrading the case, new surge protector, cables, thermal compound, cpu cooler, exchanged the speakers for something a little better, canned air, new optical drive) but it was worth it. Time to start saving for an SSD now.
Edit: Guild Wars 2 is soooo purdy now and all of that came from upgrading the cpu.
Technically as long as your components are warmer than the incoming air you should be fine (water won't condense on a hot surface like it will on a cold surface), but sub-ambient cooling always carries a risk.
I feel like the difference wouldn't be enough to cause actual condensation.
Plus most AC units have the added benefit of acting as dehumidifiers, so at least the incoming chilled air will be (relatively) dry.
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