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Bojack Horseman: Free Churros

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  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    also Mr Peanutbutter with a scarf

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    I think my favorite little exchange of this half-season was
    Doctor Champ: "Hey, I'm Doctor Champ."
    Mister Peanut-butter: "Mister Peanut-butter"
    Doctor Champ: "Hey! Your name's Mister? My name's Doctor!"
    Mister Peanut-butter: "How about that!"
    Bojack: "Wait... is Doctor Champ just your name? Are you NOT a doctor?
    Doctor Champ: "Five minute warning everyone! Five minutes!"

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I was watching episode 6, and my fucking internet went out right as Todd was having a powerful character moment!

    Noooooooooo!

    Edit: okay, I finished it on my phone. Crisis averted.

    One thing I've come to appreciate from these ~3 hour seasons (see also: Living with Yourself) is that I can watch the whole thing on my phone in an afternoon.

    I thought I would just be annoyed at this split season idea, but it really just splits it into two epic-length films and it works really well for me.

  • Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    Episode three really was a feel good story.
    I also like how she admits her problem and tries to grow beyond her past.

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  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    Season 6 Spoilers
    I'm really crossing my fingers that this show finishes its hopeful swerve. Bojack is.. getting better. He's doing it! It felt so good to see. "Is this what therapy is?!" All of episode 7 felt very powerful, to the point where you almost want to stop there to get your nice happy ending.

    Even little things like the airport bunny barista - old Bojack would have tried to sleep with her, new Bojack ends up pushing her towards Todd. The smash cut fake out with the old hair stylist from the AA meeting. He cleaned Diane's depression apartment! He's making good decisions and it's having a positive effect on his life and the lives of people around him.

    And now the Bojack Horseman the Television Series signature "dark turn" looks like it won't, or at least doesn't have to be I hope, the character Bojack horribly fucking up again - the setup now with Hollyhock and the reporter storyline gives us this better person now faced with accepting responsibility for their past mistakes and facing consequences. I don't expect that to be a smooth process, but what an opportunity for the show to set itself apart from the Glorified Broken Man genre that I've always thought it was inaccurately grouped with and that the show itself has frequently explicitly railed against. This is going to be hard for Bojack, bad things are going to happen, but imagine him making it out the other side and actually setting a good example for how to reckon with being a piece of shit instead of the lashing out, doubling down, the denial, the retreating to a toxic right wing comedy tour that we see so often in real life when people are called to account for themselves.

    I think this show could really pull off something special if it decides to go out in a hopeful note and I'll be a little disappointed if it opts instead for a super dark gut punch. I don't think it will.

    also this half-season was extremely funny

    It feels to me like they're building towards an ending where
    Bojack does redeem himself and genuinely becomes a better person, maybe even becoming a therapist to help others, yet has also irrevocably pushed everyone who used to be close to him away. The show's message very strongly seems to be that you don't have to be stuck in a cycle, you can change, but that doesn't undo all the awful shit that you did and other people absolutely do not have to forgive you.

    Which, I dunno, wouldn't be the worst note for the show to end on? A purely happy ending wouldn't feel very Bojack but he definitely doesn't deserve a purely unhappy one after all the shit he's been through.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx El Hopaness Rom Tic Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Season 6 Spoilers
    I'm really crossing my fingers that this show finishes its hopeful swerve. Bojack is.. getting better. He's doing it! It felt so good to see. "Is this what therapy is?!" All of episode 7 felt very powerful, to the point where you almost want to stop there to get your nice happy ending.

    Even little things like the airport bunny barista - old Bojack would have tried to sleep with her, new Bojack ends up pushing her towards Todd. The smash cut fake out with the old hair stylist from the AA meeting. He cleaned Diane's depression apartment! He's making good decisions and it's having a positive effect on his life and the lives of people around him.

    And now the Bojack Horseman the Television Series signature "dark turn" looks like it won't, or at least doesn't have to be I hope, the character Bojack horribly fucking up again - the setup now with Hollyhock and the reporter storyline gives us this better person now faced with accepting responsibility for their past mistakes and facing consequences. I don't expect that to be a smooth process, but what an opportunity for the show to set itself apart from the Glorified Broken Man genre that I've always thought it was inaccurately grouped with and that the show itself has frequently explicitly railed against. This is going to be hard for Bojack, bad things are going to happen, but imagine him making it out the other side and actually setting a good example for how to reckon with being a piece of shit instead of the lashing out, doubling down, the denial, the retreating to a toxic right wing comedy tour that we see so often in real life when people are called to account for themselves.

    I think this show could really pull off something special if it decides to go out in a hopeful note and I'll be a little disappointed if it opts instead for a super dark gut punch. I don't think it will.

    also this half-season was extremely funny

    It feels to me like they're building towards an ending where
    Bojack does redeem himself and genuinely becomes a better person, maybe even becoming a therapist to help others, yet has also irrevocably pushed everyone who used to be close to him away. The show's message very strongly seems to be that you don't have to be stuck in a cycle, you can change, but that doesn't undo all the awful shit that you did and other people absolutely do not have to forgive you.

    Which, I dunno, wouldn't be the worst note for the show to end on? A purely happy ending wouldn't feel very Bojack but he definitely doesn't deserve a purely unhappy one after all the shit he's been through.

    This sounds about right
    The whole part with Martindale kind of hinted at something like this

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Season 6 Spoilers
    I'm really crossing my fingers that this show finishes its hopeful swerve. Bojack is.. getting better. He's doing it! It felt so good to see. "Is this what therapy is?!" All of episode 7 felt very powerful, to the point where you almost want to stop there to get your nice happy ending.

    Even little things like the airport bunny barista - old Bojack would have tried to sleep with her, new Bojack ends up pushing her towards Todd. The smash cut fake out with the old hair stylist from the AA meeting. He cleaned Diane's depression apartment! He's making good decisions and it's having a positive effect on his life and the lives of people around him.

    And now the Bojack Horseman the Television Series signature "dark turn" looks like it won't, or at least doesn't have to be I hope, the character Bojack horribly fucking up again - the setup now with Hollyhock and the reporter storyline gives us this better person now faced with accepting responsibility for their past mistakes and facing consequences. I don't expect that to be a smooth process, but what an opportunity for the show to set itself apart from the Glorified Broken Man genre that I've always thought it was inaccurately grouped with and that the show itself has frequently explicitly railed against. This is going to be hard for Bojack, bad things are going to happen, but imagine him making it out the other side and actually setting a good example for how to reckon with being a piece of shit instead of the lashing out, doubling down, the denial, the retreating to a toxic right wing comedy tour that we see so often in real life when people are called to account for themselves.

    I think this show could really pull off something special if it decides to go out in a hopeful note and I'll be a little disappointed if it opts instead for a super dark gut punch. I don't think it will.

    also this half-season was extremely funny

    It feels to me like they're building towards an ending where
    Bojack does redeem himself and genuinely becomes a better person, maybe even becoming a therapist to help others, yet has also irrevocably pushed everyone who used to be close to him away. The show's message very strongly seems to be that you don't have to be stuck in a cycle, you can change, but that doesn't undo all the awful shit that you did and other people absolutely do not have to forgive you.

    Which, I dunno, wouldn't be the worst note for the show to end on? A purely happy ending wouldn't feel very Bojack but he definitely doesn't deserve a purely unhappy one after all the shit he's been through.

    I agree.
    If this was a show that was only concerned with it's characters getting better and moving past themselves, the series finale would have been episode 7. Episode 8 reminds us that this isn't that kind of show, and damage done to others can't be ignored. I was so impressed with the overall narrative structure of this half season and how it set up the rest of the season/series. Most mid season finales aren't nearly this great.

    Going to really miss this show when it's done. There is simply nothing like it.

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  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
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  • YogoYogo Registered User regular
    This half season made me realize...
    ...that seeing BoJack get better wasn't as entertaining or teeth-grinding inducing as the last couple of seasons. It dawned on me what kind of show BoJack really was for the majority of its run, and what made us stay tuned. I'm really happy that BoJack is moving in a better direction after so much struggle (despite what episode 8 may foreshadow), but at the same time I could feel his character wasn't so interesting to watch on the screen when things were going so well for him. He has his issues, but he is putting them aside and helping others.

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  • DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    Is there a possibility someone else can pickup bojack?

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Dixon wrote: »
    Is there a possibility someone else can pickup bojack?
    This idea has been floated around and so has the idea for a movie.

    Maybe everyone should wait and see how the show ends first...

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Dixon wrote: »
    Is there a possibility someone else can pickup bojack?

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  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    edited November 10
    Yogo wrote: »
    This half season made me realize...
    ...that seeing BoJack get better wasn't as entertaining or teeth-grinding inducing as the last couple of seasons. It dawned on me what kind of show BoJack really was for the majority of its run, and what made us stay tuned. I'm really happy that BoJack is moving in a better direction after so much struggle (despite what episode 8 may foreshadow), but at the same time I could feel his character wasn't so interesting to watch on the screen when things were going so well for him. He has his issues, but he is putting them aside and helping others.

    I totally disagree with this!

    If anything, a lack of actual growth at this point would to me feel like an uninteresting retread. (I think I felt this a bit with season 5) Someone moving past their issues and helping others is incredibly interesting to me, especially after having spent so many years getting deep into those issues and really feeling the impact of them with the character. I absolutely did not just want to watch the Bojack Behaving Badly Show forever, and frankly they've made it clear they're trying to do more than that since all the way back in Season One when the show took its first real turn about seven or eight episodes in. I know for me that's what got me invested beyond just the jokes and animal puns.

    I also think the growing ensemble nature of the show more than makes up for any shift - the show is much less just about Bojack himself than it was at the start. For a while now the most "entertaining" sequences or episodes often aren't even about him and I think that's fine.

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