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What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?
Two torsos, eighteen legs, several meters high, and clad with razor hair. Not hair that somewhat resembles razors, but actual brandname 12-bladed razor blades sans safety parts, developed mid-nymph stage just before it molts into adulthood, and is ideal for slicing off a guy's femur while holding him down with a maw or two, which brings me to the two gaping maws per head; no discount maws here, only genuinely gaping maws allowed on these spiders. Also it shoots fireballs from the nine eyes affixed to its three, spinning heads. These spiders, in the olden age, would be captured and domesticated as beasts of burden, like horses, except scary as all hell. This practice died out over growing concerns over its diet, the same reason why we stopped riding giant eagles.
Disclosure: That's not canon.
Wondering if the ability to act as the designated Spider-slayer is inherited or handed down. Wasn't it that only one in a household could see these things? But Dad seems aware of them. The first strip foreshadowed something else for me that I am not seeing. Maybe it will be delivered later, but it's also possible (and highly probable) that what I had pictured in my head from reading all the stuff on this is different from what these guys have in their heads. Just a quick question. Anyone else struggling to follow this or am I just missing something/everything? If it isn't just me then I'll sit back and relax and wait for the resolution next week. Otherwise I'm going to spend all weekend puzzling over what I'm not getting.
The pink ribbon on Grace's shirt is a really nice touch, and helps to enrich the story just that little bit more. Imma go and head over to the Pink Ribbon website and make a donation while I'm at it. You are all welcome to join me :-)
(Link is for the international website, which will link you to your national affiliate organisation when you go to the donation page)
Orphanerivers of redthat run to seaRegistered Userregular
The emotions are pretty real in this one - mostly how the dying have made their peace with what's coming, and how often it's the living that can't let go.
I hope this one fills in a lot of the blanks for people who had trouble with the first two
gabe and tycho have gotten really good at their pacing over the years
and also this is one of their first ongoings in a while that i have felt really benefits from the webcomic format, as opposed to some of the others - as good as automata was it was still just a comic that you didn't get to read in one sitting. grace, so far, has really seized upon this as an advantage to move around in the timeline in a really effective manner
But I still think the pacing is off. We're getting six strips to tell this story, and I feel like there should be more going on each time, and I still feel that telling drama with three panels is absurd. (although it works for this one.)
I feel like Jerry's outline would work better as a Nightlight screenplay, rather than a six panel series.They fit so much into three panels with their comedy, but with their drama it feels like each entry is just a taste of something. But again, I think this entry worked for their format.
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Orphanerivers of redthat run to seaRegistered Userregular
But I still think the pacing is off. We're getting six strips to tell this story, and I feel like there should be more going on each time, and I still feel that telling drama with three panels is absurd. (although it works for this one.)
I feel like Jerry's outline would work better as a Nightlight screenplay, rather than a six panel series.They fit so much into three panels with their comedy, but with their drama it feels like each entry is just a taste of something. But again, I think this entry worked for their format.
not to sound like a pedant but this particular comic is hardly 3 panels - the first panel is telling about Grace's circumstances (that Grace grew up with her mother being sick but toughing it out, as opposed it being a sudden illness) in a way the 3 bottom panels wouldn't have communicated by themselves.
What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?
Two torsos, eighteen legs, several meters high, and clad with razor hair. Not hair that somewhat resembles razors, but actual brandname 12-bladed razor blades sans safety parts, developed mid-nymph stage just before it molts into adulthood, and is ideal for slicing off a guy's femur while holding him down with a maw or two, which brings me to the two gaping maws per head; no discount maws here, only genuinely gaping maws allowed on these spiders. Also it shoots fireballs from the nine eyes affixed to its three, spinning heads. These spiders, in the olden age, would be captured and domesticated as beasts of burden, like horses, except scary as all hell. This practice died out over growing concerns over its diet, the same reason why we stopped riding giant eagles.
My mother passed from cancer about six years ago. I still remember, painfully, having to tell her it was okay to go, that we'd be ok. It was the hardest thing I think I've ever done.
The feels, man. This comic, not just right *in* the feels, but blowing right through them, showering them all over my desk right now. Guuhhhhh
I needed the comments to figure out the second one, but this... holy shit, guys. It's no longer in the park. It's been knocked out. It isn't there anymore.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
The worst parts for me are the dreams where she is still alive or comes back but only at her sickest. But even the. I'm happy to talk to her again. Then I wake up and am devastated all over again.
Oh damn such feels! This one could end here and I'd be happy. I imagine the heroic rise will be even more satisfying with such a solid base of feels to relate to Grace. Really good work.
Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Signed up as I just had to say Mike, your artwork on this is totally and absolutely beautiful. Long been a reader and admirer of PA but this just has everything. Experienced this situation 9 years ago with my mother telling her it was ok to go. You and Jerry hit me right in the feels, but in a good way if you understand me. Thank you so much.
Same thing is happening in a radio show on listen to. One of the people is a newish parent two young boys, and some people complain that he talks about dad stuff. Art is always going to reflect the current place the author is in in their life. Sometimes they change and its not for you anymore. I much prefer when it changes otherwise you get those terrible newspaper comics that tell the same tired jokes over and over.
Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
All of the strips are in chronological order.
Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.
Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.
Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.
And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.
Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
All of the strips are in chronological order.
Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.
Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.
Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.
And this is what has me confused. I get the basic idea being put forth, but is Grace supposed to look older in panel two than panel three? Is this a swift forward movement in time or time jumping around?
I suppose that's the downside to getting a six-piece story over two weeks. I will, for the nonce, assume this will make sense when everything has been released into the wild.
Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
All of the strips are in chronological order.
Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.
Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.
Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.
And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.
I think the order or 1-3-2 makes more sense.
In 2 the father is extremely distraught. I think this is more likely after a death than a diagnosis.
The kids are dressed up. As if they had just come home from church or a funeral. Grace is wearing her mom's necklace.
In 3 Grace is not wearing the necklace and her mom still is.
but is Grace supposed to look older in panel two than panel three? Is this a swift forward movement in time or time jumping around?
Mayyybe. I feel like it's a combination of the more formal clothes everyone is wearing in Part 2 and the fact that we see her cut off at the waist (or higher) in every other panel up to this point. I do think there's supposed to be a time jump between Part 1 and Part 2, probably years. She's missing some teeth in Part 1, but it looks like she has a full set in Parts 2 and 3.
Then again, she seems to be wearing the same shirt in Parts 1 and 3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Love seeing these ideas. Yes they are out of order. #2 is the night after the funeral good job. You can see the dad has thrown off his suit and tie, they are on the floor of his studio along with his dress shoes. Glad you're finding and digging the little secrets:)
Honestly, this is way more depressing (in a good way) than if she died to monsters. I did not expect this.
I am a bit disappointed, because I was hoping someone would make a really whiny, trolling post in the forums about how bad this was, so I could say "This post gave me cancer" and immediately regret it.
I'm not saying I dislike stuff like this, or Watchers, or Automata. I like all those things. I just wish they were on their own little link up there with The Trenches etc. as their own thing. Like a "Click here in case of emergency" for when I've clicked randomly and hit comedy gold like the comic where Mayor Gabe is telling his loyal constituents he rezoned their houses to form a giant wang, and I need to offload some of that joy and mirth in a humor grave lest I be entirely too happy.
Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
All of the strips are in chronological order.
Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.
Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.
Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.
And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.
I'm impressed that he followed through on the detail of her breast size.
Love seeing these ideas. Yes they are out of order. #2 is the night after the funeral good job. You can see the dad has thrown off his suit and tie, they are on the floor of his studio along with his dress shoes. Glad you're finding and digging the little secrets:)
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Disclosure: That's not canon.
Wondering if the ability to act as the designated Spider-slayer is inherited or handed down. Wasn't it that only one in a household could see these things? But Dad seems aware of them. The first strip foreshadowed something else for me that I am not seeing. Maybe it will be delivered later, but it's also possible (and highly probable) that what I had pictured in my head from reading all the stuff on this is different from what these guys have in their heads. Just a quick question. Anyone else struggling to follow this or am I just missing something/everything? If it isn't just me then I'll sit back and relax and wait for the resolution next week. Otherwise I'm going to spend all weekend puzzling over what I'm not getting.
(Link is for the international website, which will link you to your national affiliate organisation when you go to the donation page)
Only a mere 136 pins to go!
I hope this one fills in a lot of the blanks for people who had trouble with the first two
and also this is one of their first ongoings in a while that i have felt really benefits from the webcomic format, as opposed to some of the others - as good as automata was it was still just a comic that you didn't get to read in one sitting. grace, so far, has really seized upon this as an advantage to move around in the timeline in a really effective manner
But I still think the pacing is off. We're getting six strips to tell this story, and I feel like there should be more going on each time, and I still feel that telling drama with three panels is absurd. (although it works for this one.)
I feel like Jerry's outline would work better as a Nightlight screenplay, rather than a six panel series.They fit so much into three panels with their comedy, but with their drama it feels like each entry is just a taste of something. But again, I think this entry worked for their format.
not to sound like a pedant but this particular comic is hardly 3 panels - the first panel is telling about Grace's circumstances (that Grace grew up with her mother being sick but toughing it out, as opposed it being a sudden illness) in a way the 3 bottom panels wouldn't have communicated by themselves.
all in all it's wonderfully expressive
Truly terrifying thank you ma'am or sir
The feels, man. This comic, not just right *in* the feels, but blowing right through them, showering them all over my desk right now. Guuhhhhh
I'll just leave this here.
The worst parts for me are the dreams where she is still alive or comes back but only at her sickest. But even the. I'm happy to talk to her again. Then I wake up and am devastated all over again.
LoL: BunyipAristocrat
You say it like it's a bad thing.
Cancer is the biggest dick.
I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!
Same thing is happening in a radio show on listen to. One of the people is a newish parent two young boys, and some people complain that he talks about dad stuff. Art is always going to reflect the current place the author is in in their life. Sometimes they change and its not for you anymore. I much prefer when it changes otherwise you get those terrible newspaper comics that tell the same tired jokes over and over.
Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.
Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.
And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.
And this is what has me confused. I get the basic idea being put forth, but is Grace supposed to look older in panel two than panel three? Is this a swift forward movement in time or time jumping around?
I suppose that's the downside to getting a six-piece story over two weeks. I will, for the nonce, assume this will make sense when everything has been released into the wild.
I think the order or 1-3-2 makes more sense.
In 2 the father is extremely distraught. I think this is more likely after a death than a diagnosis.
The kids are dressed up. As if they had just come home from church or a funeral. Grace is wearing her mom's necklace.
In 3 Grace is not wearing the necklace and her mom still is.
Mayyybe. I feel like it's a combination of the more formal clothes everyone is wearing in Part 2 and the fact that we see her cut off at the waist (or higher) in every other panel up to this point. I do think there's supposed to be a time jump between Part 1 and Part 2, probably years. She's missing some teeth in Part 1, but it looks like she has a full set in Parts 2 and 3.
Then again, she seems to be wearing the same shirt in Parts 1 and 3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh damn, son. Okay, I am persuaded by your arguments. Non-linear progression it is. [gets bowl of popcorn and settles in]
the fact that they can produce this kind of art while at the same time making some of the finest poop humor available
well, it's damn impressive
I am a bit disappointed, because I was hoping someone would make a really whiny, trolling post in the forums about how bad this was, so I could say "This post gave me cancer" and immediately regret it.
It's not good or bad, it's just comedy poison
I'm impressed that he followed through on the detail of her breast size.
I totally nailed it: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/33042716/#Comment_33042716