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Penny Arcade - Comic - Grace, Part Three

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edited July 2015 in The Penny Arcade Hub

imagePenny Arcade - Comic - Grace, Part Three

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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  • SIXytSIXyt Esq STLRegistered User regular
    What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2015
    SIXyt wrote: »
    What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?
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    Sterica on
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  • LittlestarsLittlestars Registered User regular
    SIXyt wrote: »
    What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?
    Two torsos, eighteen legs, several meters high, and clad with razor hair. Not hair that somewhat resembles razors, but actual brandname 12-bladed razor blades sans safety parts, developed mid-nymph stage just before it molts into adulthood, and is ideal for slicing off a guy's femur while holding him down with a maw or two, which brings me to the two gaping maws per head; no discount maws here, only genuinely gaping maws allowed on these spiders. Also it shoots fireballs from the nine eyes affixed to its three, spinning heads. These spiders, in the olden age, would be captured and domesticated as beasts of burden, like horses, except scary as all hell. This practice died out over growing concerns over its diet, the same reason why we stopped riding giant eagles.

    Disclosure: That's not canon.

    Wondering if the ability to act as the designated Spider-slayer is inherited or handed down. Wasn't it that only one in a household could see these things? But Dad seems aware of them. The first strip foreshadowed something else for me that I am not seeing. Maybe it will be delivered later, but it's also possible (and highly probable) that what I had pictured in my head from reading all the stuff on this is different from what these guys have in their heads. Just a quick question. Anyone else struggling to follow this or am I just missing something/everything? If it isn't just me then I'll sit back and relax and wait for the resolution next week. Otherwise I'm going to spend all weekend puzzling over what I'm not getting.

  • PAX_SkeletorPAX_Skeletor Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    The pink ribbon on Grace's shirt is a really nice touch, and helps to enrich the story just that little bit more. Imma go and head over to the Pink Ribbon website and make a donation while I'm at it. You are all welcome to join me :-)

    (Link is for the international website, which will link you to your national affiliate organisation when you go to the donation page)

  • The_WatcherThe_Watcher Registered User regular
    That dadification of Penny Arcade is real.

  • OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    The emotions are pretty real in this one - mostly how the dying have made their peace with what's coming, and how often it's the living that can't let go.

    I hope this one fills in a lot of the blanks for people who had trouble with the first two

  • Robotic DraconianRobotic Draconian Registered User regular
    Oh, I was NOT expecting to be hit with this right now.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    gabe and tycho have gotten really good at their pacing over the years

    and also this is one of their first ongoings in a while that i have felt really benefits from the webcomic format, as opposed to some of the others - as good as automata was it was still just a comic that you didn't get to read in one sitting. grace, so far, has really seized upon this as an advantage to move around in the timeline in a really effective manner

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  • firepoetfirepoet Registered User regular
    I like this one.

    But I still think the pacing is off. We're getting six strips to tell this story, and I feel like there should be more going on each time, and I still feel that telling drama with three panels is absurd. (although it works for this one.)

    I feel like Jerry's outline would work better as a Nightlight screenplay, rather than a six panel series.They fit so much into three panels with their comedy, but with their drama it feels like each entry is just a taste of something. But again, I think this entry worked for their format.

  • OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    firepoet wrote: »
    I like this one.

    But I still think the pacing is off. We're getting six strips to tell this story, and I feel like there should be more going on each time, and I still feel that telling drama with three panels is absurd. (although it works for this one.)

    I feel like Jerry's outline would work better as a Nightlight screenplay, rather than a six panel series.They fit so much into three panels with their comedy, but with their drama it feels like each entry is just a taste of something. But again, I think this entry worked for their format.

    not to sound like a pedant but this particular comic is hardly 3 panels - the first panel is telling about Grace's circumstances (that Grace grew up with her mother being sick but toughing it out, as opposed it being a sudden illness) in a way the 3 bottom panels wouldn't have communicated by themselves.

    all in all it's wonderfully expressive

  • SIXytSIXyt Esq STLRegistered User regular
    SIXyt wrote: »
    What the wide wide world of sports do these spiders look like?
    Two torsos, eighteen legs, several meters high, and clad with razor hair. Not hair that somewhat resembles razors, but actual brandname 12-bladed razor blades sans safety parts, developed mid-nymph stage just before it molts into adulthood, and is ideal for slicing off a guy's femur while holding him down with a maw or two, which brings me to the two gaping maws per head; no discount maws here, only genuinely gaping maws allowed on these spiders. Also it shoots fireballs from the nine eyes affixed to its three, spinning heads. These spiders, in the olden age, would be captured and domesticated as beasts of burden, like horses, except scary as all hell. This practice died out over growing concerns over its diet, the same reason why we stopped riding giant eagles.

    Disclosure: That's not canon.

    Truly terrifying thank you ma'am or sir

  • Christian LeBlancChristian LeBlanc Registered User regular
    I'm relieved I got up early and read this before work, because all this sniffing would be hard for me to explain :'(

  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    Honestly? I was a little relieved it was something mundane like cancer. I had assumed the monsters got her.

    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    Jesus christ, right in the feels... ;_;

    No Protoss players were underpowered during this post.
  • Jacques L'HommeJacques L'Homme BAH! He was a rank amateur compared to, DR. COLOSSUS!Registered User regular
    Well'p, going into work with red eyes and rosy cheeks now.

  • silentArtifactsilentArtifact Registered User new member
    My mother passed from cancer about six years ago. I still remember, painfully, having to tell her it was okay to go, that we'd be ok. It was the hardest thing I think I've ever done.

    The feels, man. This comic, not just right *in* the feels, but blowing right through them, showering them all over my desk right now. Guuhhhhh

  • PeriSoftPeriSoft Registered User regular
    I needed the comments to figure out the second one, but this... holy shit, guys. It's no longer in the park. It's been knocked out. It isn't there anymore.

  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byVA-YfNxds

    I'll just leave this here.

    The worst parts for me are the dreams where she is still alive or comes back but only at her sickest. But even the. I'm happy to talk to her again. Then I wake up and am devastated all over again.

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Jibby_JibbsJibby_Jibbs Registered User new member
    Long-time lurker, just created an account to thank you for breaking all my feels.

  • ExarchExarch Registered User regular
    Oh damn such feels! This one could end here and I'd be happy. I imagine the heroic rise will be even more satisfying with such a solid base of feels to relate to Grace. Really good work.

    No gods or kings, only man.
    LoL: BunyipAristocrat
  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    That dadification of Penny Arcade is real.

    You say it like it's a bad thing.

  • armatur3armatur3 San DiegoRegistered User regular
    Goddamnit, Mike. Stop cutting onions!

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    This is a bit heavy, I want an awesome dick joke after this.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    This is a bit heavy, I want an awesome dick joke after this.

    Cancer is the biggest dick.

  • PuddingpiePuddingpie Registered User regular
    Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!

    I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!

  • NindyJNindyJ Registered User new member
    Signed up as I just had to say Mike, your artwork on this is totally and absolutely beautiful. Long been a reader and admirer of PA but this just has everything. Experienced this situation 9 years ago with my mother telling her it was ok to go. You and Jerry hit me right in the feels, but in a good way if you understand me. Thank you so much.

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    That dadification of Penny Arcade is real.

    You say it like it's a bad thing.

    Same thing is happening in a radio show on listen to. One of the people is a newish parent two young boys, and some people complain that he talks about dad stuff. Art is always going to reflect the current place the author is in in their life. Sometimes they change and its not for you anymore. I much prefer when it changes otherwise you get those terrible newspaper comics that tell the same tired jokes over and over.

    Cabezone on
  • boviusbovius Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Puddingpie wrote: »
    Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!

    I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!

    Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
    • All of the strips are in chronological order.
    • Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
    • Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
    • All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.

    Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.

    Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.

    And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.

    bovius on
  • Spiffy McBangSpiffy McBang Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    bovius wrote: »
    Puddingpie wrote: »
    Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!

    I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!

    Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
    • All of the strips are in chronological order.
    • Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
    • Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
    • All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.

    Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.

    Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.

    And this is what has me confused. I get the basic idea being put forth, but is Grace supposed to look older in panel two than panel three? Is this a swift forward movement in time or time jumping around?

    I suppose that's the downside to getting a six-piece story over two weeks. I will, for the nonce, assume this will make sense when everything has been released into the wild.

    Spiffy McBang on
  • YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    bovius wrote: »
    Puddingpie wrote: »
    Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!

    I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!

    Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
    • All of the strips are in chronological order.
    • Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
    • Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
    • All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.

    Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.

    Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.

    And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.

    I think the order or 1-3-2 makes more sense.
    In 2 the father is extremely distraught. I think this is more likely after a death than a diagnosis.
    The kids are dressed up. As if they had just come home from church or a funeral. Grace is wearing her mom's necklace.
    In 3 Grace is not wearing the necklace and her mom still is.

  • boviusbovius Registered User regular
    but is Grace supposed to look older in panel two than panel three? Is this a swift forward movement in time or time jumping around?

    Mayyybe. I feel like it's a combination of the more formal clothes everyone is wearing in Part 2 and the fact that we see her cut off at the waist (or higher) in every other panel up to this point. I do think there's supposed to be a time jump between Part 1 and Part 2, probably years. She's missing some teeth in Part 1, but it looks like she has a full set in Parts 2 and 3.

    Then again, she seems to be wearing the same shirt in Parts 1 and 3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • boviusbovius Registered User regular
    YoungFrey wrote: »
    Grace is wearing her mom's necklace.
    In 3 Grace is not wearing the necklace and her mom still is.

    Oh damn, son. Okay, I am persuaded by your arguments. Non-linear progression it is. [gets bowl of popcorn and settles in]

  • GabrielGabriel Registered User, ClubPA, Penny Arcade Staff, PAX Staff staff
    Love seeing these ideas. Yes they are out of order. #2 is the night after the funeral good job. You can see the dad has thrown off his suit and tie, they are on the floor of his studio along with his dress shoes. Glad you're finding and digging the little secrets:)

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Fantastic work, sir. Thank you for sharing it with us.

    Commander Zoom on
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    This is a bit heavy, I want an awesome dick joke after this.

    the fact that they can produce this kind of art while at the same time making some of the finest poop humor available

    well, it's damn impressive

  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    Honestly, this is way more depressing (in a good way) than if she died to monsters. I did not expect this.

    I am a bit disappointed, because I was hoping someone would make a really whiny, trolling post in the forums about how bad this was, so I could say "This post gave me cancer" and immediately regret it.

  • ChaosPathChaosPath Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    That dadification of Penny Arcade is real.

    You say it like it's a bad thing.

    It's not good or bad, it's just comedy poison

  • SolaceInRageSolaceInRage Registered User regular
    I'm not saying I dislike stuff like this, or Watchers, or Automata. I like all those things. I just wish they were on their own little link up there with The Trenches etc. as their own thing. Like a "Click here in case of emergency" for when I've clicked randomly and hit comedy gold like the comic where Mayor Gabe is telling his loyal constituents he rezoned their houses to form a giant wang, and I need to offload some of that joy and mirth in a humor grave lest I be entirely too happy.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    bovius wrote: »
    Puddingpie wrote: »
    Part Two had left me pretty confused, but this one really made it clear for me. Like.... Ohhhhh, Part Two takes place after the mom's funeral, and an older, teenage Grace is comforting her little brother. This makes sense!

    I'd like to think that the first panel here is what the dad in Part Two ended up painting!

    Interesting! Not quite my take on it, though. Assertions:
    • All of the strips are in chronological order.
    • Grace Part 1 is a prologue, showing how things were before everything went bad.
    • Grace Part 2 is after they've learned that the mom has terminal cancer, probably stage 4 breast cancer. Grace does look taller here, though. I think her bottom half has been concealed in all the other panels (so far), so it might just be a matter of perspective.
    • All of Grace Part 3 is Grace visiting mom at the hospital, long after mom has had a double mastectomy and chemotherapy.

    Oh man, I just noticed the pink ribbon Grace is wearing in part 3. That seals it for me.

    Really loving the attention to detail in Mike's art on the Nightlight series. I usually expect this level of subtlety when an artist does a no-dialogue series. Bravo.

    And, now that I look at it longer, I'm liking Puddingpie's suggestion the that the first panel of part 3 is one of dad's paintings more and more.

    I'm impressed that he followed through on the detail of her breast size.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Gabriel wrote: »
    Love seeing these ideas. Yes they are out of order. #2 is the night after the funeral good job. You can see the dad has thrown off his suit and tie, they are on the floor of his studio along with his dress shoes. Glad you're finding and digging the little secrets:)

    I totally nailed it: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/33042716/#Comment_33042716

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