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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'll watch Woody Allen movies after he's dead.

    Same with Polanski.

    Don't deprive yourself like that. At least watch Chinatown. Or The Pianist. Those are truly amazing films.

    But I do get it. I refused to watch Ender's Game until I inadvertently paid for it through a sub like HBO. It was the right move.

    Not watching a few movies is NOT "depriving yourself". There's THOUSANDS of other ones out there to watch.

    I mean, that's literally what it is. I didn't say "don't torture yourself," which is what you're making it out to sound like.

    "Deprive" still not the verb to use. WAY too strong. There's still the implication that certain movies need to be watched which is tiresome in the extreme.

    I'm with you on the latter part: nothing needs to be watched. I'd argue strongly in favor of watching Chinatown because it's an incredible film. If that's off the table, no harm/no foul; watch LA Confidential instead, the only movie of its type to come close to matching Chinatown (for me).

    Or you can watch an equally top-notch film noir.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Hey, Seth Rogen?

    It's okay, buddy, you don't have to credit yourself for making the Interview.

    We'd all understand if you didn't want to.

    I like the "almost brought you the interview" gag, though

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    There are hundreds of great films, you're spoilt for choice.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    it's really weird that of the two comedy movies about the end of the world that got released in the same year, I ended up liking the Seth Rogen one more than Edgar Wright's

    like, the world's end is really good, but this is the end is...super goddamned funny

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Hey your original post a page ago was in reply to me stating basically exactly what I did in the one you just quoted. You then continued trying to sway people. Don't be mad at me for drawing the only conclusion I can from your line of posts, which is that the movies are so good that I'm somehow depriving myself by not seeing them because their director is a monster.

    Spoiling this cuz I'm frankly tired of having to defend myself in this thread. I'm sure most people don't care to read it.
    That is exactly what you're doing (depriving yourself). I never said it was a bad thing, though. I said that I get it, in fact. I even gave an alternative film to check out. But good for you, stick to your guns. Doesn't change the fact that the movies I referenced are really great. So yes, I will absolutely get mad at you shitting on my comments, because I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I saying anyone is wrong for not doing it, least of all you. Forgive me if I'm confused by your goosey response; it certainly came off extremely strong when I was barely including you, aside from the very first response.

    There's a lot of that around here. People seem to go from 0-60 in negative time over fucking movies.

    I said it before, I'll say it again: I'm very good at hating the artist and not the art. That's clearly not for everyone.

    Moving on.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'll watch Woody Allen movies after he's dead.

    Same with Polanski.

    Don't deprive yourself like that. At least watch Chinatown. Or The Pianist. Those are truly amazing films.

    But I do get it. I refused to watch Ender's Game until I inadvertently paid for it through a sub like HBO. It was the right move.

    Not watching a few movies is NOT "depriving yourself". There's THOUSANDS of other ones out there to watch.

    I mean, that's literally what it is. I didn't say "don't torture yourself," which is what you're making it out to sound like.

    "Deprive" still not the verb to use. WAY too strong. There's still the implication that certain movies need to be watched which is tiresome in the extreme.

    I'm with you on the latter part: nothing needs to be watched. I'd argue strongly in favor of watching Chinatown because it's an incredible film. If that's off the table, no harm/no foul; watch LA Confidential instead, the only movie of its type to come close to matching Chinatown (for me).

    Or you can watch an equally top-notch film noir.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

    This is quite possibly better than my suggestion.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'll watch Woody Allen movies after he's dead.

    Same with Polanski.

    Don't deprive yourself like that. At least watch Chinatown. Or The Pianist. Those are truly amazing films.

    But I do get it. I refused to watch Ender's Game until I inadvertently paid for it through a sub like HBO. It was the right move.

    Not watching a few movies is NOT "depriving yourself". There's THOUSANDS of other ones out there to watch.

    I mean, that's literally what it is. I didn't say "don't torture yourself," which is what you're making it out to sound like.

    "Deprive" still not the verb to use. WAY too strong. There's still the implication that certain movies need to be watched which is tiresome in the extreme.

    I'm with you on the latter part: nothing needs to be watched. I'd argue strongly in favor of watching Chinatown because it's an incredible film. If that's off the table, no harm/no foul; watch LA Confidential instead, the only movie of its type to come close to matching Chinatown (for me).

    Or you can watch an equally top-notch film noir.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

    This is quite possibly better than my suggestion.

    Between Roger Rabbit and the Mario Bros movie, I actually thought Bob Hoskins was American for a long time, and assumed his accent in Hook was a total put-on.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fun fact: the book from which the story is absurdly loosely (and by loosely I mean not at all) adapted is "Who Erased Roger Rabbit?" and deals with the problems of censorship.

    It is kinda weird how they basically took half of the name and the noir setting and came out with something so amazing.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Ever see the test footage where Paul Reubens did Roger's voice? I really would love to hop in an inter-dimensional transport device and see that movie.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    A couple years ago I got to see the guy that did Roger's voice do some stand-up comedy.

    That guy is like Robin Williams if Robin Williams had somehow found a way to do even more cocaine.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    The interview was a bad movie but the final part with Katie Perry playing was really goddam funny.

    Not worth watching the entire movie for though.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

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    HawkstoneHawkstone Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. Somewhere outside of BarstowRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate them, but it's not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Sadler to revive the Earnest goes to camp franchise,

    Inside of a dog...it's too dark to read.
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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'll watch Woody Allen movies after he's dead.

    Same with Polanski.

    Don't deprive yourself like that. At least watch Chinatown. Or The Pianist. Those are truly amazing films.

    But I do get it. I refused to watch Ender's Game until I inadvertently paid for it through a sub like HBO. It was the right move.

    Not watching a few movies is NOT "depriving yourself". There's THOUSANDS of other ones out there to watch.

    I mean, that's literally what it is. I didn't say "don't torture yourself," which is what you're making it out to sound like.

    "Deprive" still not the verb to use. WAY too strong. There's still the implication that certain movies need to be watched which is tiresome in the extreme.

    I'm with you on the latter part: nothing needs to be watched. I'd argue strongly in favor of watching Chinatown because it's an incredible film. If that's off the table, no harm/no foul; watch LA Confidential instead, the only movie of its type to come close to matching Chinatown (for me).

    Or you can watch an equally top-notch film noir.

    The Big Lebowski

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh my God this trailer destroyed me

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    the thing is, there is a high enough demand for adam sandler movies that they always make a profit

    so charging exhorbitant rates for the actors' salaries isn't a scam, it's just supply and demand

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    there's one joke from the the interview trailer that I liked and it is when kim jong un shows james franco a jet or something that was a gift from stalin and james franco says uh it's pronounced stallone

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    I feel like these must be joke posts because they totally are. Like, openly.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Langly wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

    Grown Ups:
    Budget $80 million
    Box office $271.4 million

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    MrMrMeMrMrMe Registered User regular
    Bet it still made a loss once hollywood accounting took hold of it.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

    Grown Ups:
    Budget $80 million
    Box office $271.4 million

    Yes that is the Wikipedia Entry for its production budget and gross revenue but that is actually not how studios portray their revenue. It's literally called Hollywood Accounting.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    A WB receipt was leaked online, showing that the hugely successful movie Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ended up with a $167 million loss on paper.[22] This is especially unusual, given that, without inflation adjustment, the Harry Potter film series is the highest-grossing film series of all time, both domestic and international. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 remains Warner Bros.' highest grossing movie ever.[23]

    Harry Potter was a loss. Harry Potter.

    Most studios do it but Adam sandler is super flagrant about it.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

    Grown Ups:
    Budget $80 million
    Box office $271.4 million

    Yes that is the Wikipedia Entry for its production budget and gross revenue but that is actually not how studios portray their revenue. It's literally called Hollywood Accounting.

    Right, but the point is that Sandler isn't doing anything different from any other production studio.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Houk wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

    Grown Ups:
    Budget $80 million
    Box office $271.4 million

    Yes that is the Wikipedia Entry for its production budget and gross revenue but that is actually not how studios portray their revenue. It's literally called Hollywood Accounting.

    Right, but the point is that Sandler isn't doing anything different from any other production studio.

    no, Munkus' point was that he actually wasn't taking advantage of loopholes and was instead getting people to pay money to buy tickets. And that isn't true. Happy Madison Productions uses illegal accounting practices to make sure that no matter the outcome of the film, it is written as a loss, and they get paid tons of money.

    And I would argue that point is ridiculous, in any case, because again while Hollywood Accounting is incredibly prevalent, Sandler's use of it is waaaaaaaaaaay more obvious and ridiculous than others and so he stands out, and the fact that his movies are shit makes it easier to point out and shit talk him for.


    (Also, just for reference, the movie WB listed as a loss:

    Budget: 150 million
    Gross: 939 million)

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Houk wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate his films, but they're not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Oh, it's totally a scam. He's making films with tiny actual budgets cost millions more so he can slip some money to his friends and line his own pockets.

    The thing is, it's not a scam I can really criticize the man for, at least not much. I mean, he's just doing a solid for his friends with money out of the pockets of people even richer than him. And the movies tend to make their money back anyway, so it's not like they're hurting, and some people find the films funny for some damn reason, so they're not getting ripped off.

    It's not good, but it's as close as I've seen to a victimless crime.

    A scam would be taking advantage of a loophole you aren't supposed to in order to make money. Like in the Producers where the scam is to get WAY over the amount of investors for a project, have it fail, then not be required to pay them.

    If he can legitimately get people to pay stupid amounts of money for him to jerk off with his buddies, then that's more of a comment about the people paying him.

    No dude, every sander movie has been listed as a loss. For real.

    They use Hollywood accounting to take the massive profits and list them as losses.

    Grown Ups:
    Budget $80 million
    Box office $271.4 million

    Yes that is the Wikipedia Entry for its production budget and gross revenue but that is actually not how studios portray their revenue. It's literally called Hollywood Accounting.

    Right, but the point is that Sandler isn't doing anything different from any other production studio.

    no, Munkus' point was that he actually wasn't taking advantage of loopholes and was instead getting people to pay money to buy tickets. And that isn't true. Happy Madison Productions uses illegal accounting practices to make sure that no matter the outcome of the film, it is written as a loss, and they get paid tons of money.

    And I would argue that point is ridiculous, in any case, because again while Hollywood Accounting is incredibly prevalent, Sandler's use of it is waaaaaaaaaaay more obvious and ridiculous than others and so he stands out, and the fact that his movies are shit makes it easier to point out and shit talk him for.


    (Also, just for reference, the movie WB listed as a loss:

    Budget: 150 million
    Gross: 939 million)

    No, I meant that it's different from the way Uwe Boll did shit and comparing them is inaccurate.

    "Maybe you know it but it's not so easy to finance movies in total. And the reason I am able to do these kind of movies is I have a tax shelter fund in Germany, and if you invest in a movie in Germany you get basically fifty percent back from the government."

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    let me move to germany I have a phone I'll make a bunch of found footage films

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Germany has since closed the Boll-hole, by the way.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    Germany has since closed the Boll-hole, by the way.

    Did they pay the Troll Toll?

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    Germany has since closed the Boll-hole, by the way.

    Did they pay the Troll Toll?

    You gotta pay the Troll Toll to get in.

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    Carson VendettaCarson Vendetta Registered User regular
    I really dug ex machina but I really like reimagining the story of Adam and Eve

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Hawkstone wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Adam Sandler is the American Uwe Boll.

    Sure, thre's a market for his movies. But, there's also a market for getting punched in the nuts. Doesn't make you smart for liking it.

    That is incredibly unfair to Sandler.

    Boll would buy the rights to a video game on the super cheap then take advantage of movie-making tax breaks to let people essentially funnel money through it. His movies were a tax scam.

    Yeah Sandler isn't tricking anyone, or exploiting any loopholes.

    Most people hate them, but it's not shady or a scam.

    There is a market of people who enjoy stupid terrible movies. Some people just don't bother aiming any higher than that.

    Sadler to revive the Earnest goes to camp franchise,

    don't you dare take the name of ernest p worrell in vain

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    It's adam and steve not adam and eve

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    it's adam and e-di not adam and eve

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    It's adam and eve and then you shoot bees out of your arms.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I really dug ex machina but I really like reimagining the story of Adam and Eve

    ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLE IN HERE

    HEY @Sassori DID YOU KNOW THAT THREE YEARS AGO TO THE DAY WE WATCHED THE APPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME

    DID YOU KNOW THAT THAT MOVIE HAS AN ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL VAMPIRE

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I really dug ex machina but I really like reimagining the story of Adam and Eve

    ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLE IN HERE

    HEY @Sassori DID YOU KNOW THAT THREE YEARS AGO TO THE DAY WE WATCHED THE APPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME

    DID YOU KNOW THAT THAT MOVIE HAS AN ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL VAMPIRE

    the apple is so so so great to watch.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I was digging around my Facebook memories this morning and I found the 189 comment wall post from three years ago that was three of us watching the Apple online together

    It was a delight to reread

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