[League of Legends] Worlds are here! Tag your spoilers!

PrjctD_Captain

This OP was originally created by one Bobkins Flymo, who is now being credited for his work before his lawyers find this page.

This OP is shamelessly stolen from Hiryu, so that we may have a new one before it gets locked again. May the op never be made anew!

This Op is stolen from Roz, who I believe in turn stole it from Burnage.

This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

League of Legends (popularly known as LOL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game created by Riot Games.

You play as a summoner that controls a champion and looks forward to replays for half a decade. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, you will wait several months for new champions and your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches, meaninglessly judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal and weep over the lack of ranked Dominion.

Thread Layout
OP - The Basics - General LoL Tips and Tricks
2nd - PENTAKILL! - Come see who among us has recently scored a PENTABUTT
3rd - Currently Open Contests/One-Time Events
The Basics

New Player Guide

1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)

It's worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here.

The official Mac client is in beta - download it today!

3. Play the tutorials and read the New User Guide!

The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with!

Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each champion.

5. Play vs. People

Do it, damn you. The AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches. If you do use bot games, focus on practicing basic mechanics such as getting the last hit on minions for sweet, sweet gold.

6. Get yer free champs.

Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! You can also get a free Tristana skins if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you've not already bought them, so this is an easy way to pick up two champions.

The Dos and Don'ts of LoL

1. Don't buy champions randomly!

LoL has two currencies: Riot Points (RP), which are bought with real money, and Influence Points (IP) which are earned solely by playing games. Champions can be bought with both, but every week there will be ten free champions to play with. Play these champs instead. Get a feel for each type of champion and see which you find more fun. It's far better to do this as opposed to buying a champ randomly and ultimately being unhappy with it. You can also get three refund opportunities for both IP and RP purchases.

2. Don't buy Tier 2 Runes.

They are pretty much a waste of IP. Buy Tier 1 and save up for Tier 3. Or, if you're baller like Hargaad, don't even buy Tier 1. Wait to hit level 30, then buy all the Tier 3 runes you need.

3. Do queue with friends.

Playing with randoms is a crapshoot, and playing with a friend or two can put the odds in your favor. Play complementary champs and request feedback on how you did in each game (even if you won). Likewise, you can offer advice to others you saw having trouble in a polite manner.

4. Do learn the champions.

When a new rotation occurs, it is wise to play a few games with each champ. Knowing what each champ is capable of will be useful even if you hate how they play and never intend on using them. For example, Karthus has a skill that does damage to every enemy champion, regardless of location! If you know this, then you can be a jerk and take Soraka (who has a skill that heals all allied champions).

5. Do read guides.

There are multiple ways to play a champion. This combination of skills, runes, masteries and items is called a "build" and are the general strategies for any champion. The recommended items in the game store are not always ideal, and the order you level skills can have a big impact on how the early stages of the game play out. Sites like LolKing and Solomid offer builds for just about every champion. It's cookie-cutter, but a great foundation for new players. Once you learn the ins and outs, you can tweak a build to better serve your playstyles or as a reaction to enemy or ally players.

6. Do be polite and do report.

Sometimes people will suck or do shit wrong. It's a game, so try to keep that in mind when things get a little unhinged. If you insult or yell at people, even if they did do something wrong, you're likely going to get that person defensive and things will very quickly begin to break down. Instead of focusing on the game, you focus on hurling insults at each other. Stay calm, and politely offer advice when needed.

Sometimes, even with this in mind, people will still be jerks. It happens! Simply /mute them and quietly report them after the game. Taking their bait is probably what they want you to do. Do not give them the satisfaction! Keep your cool.

7. Buy skins.

Having a skin for a character is a great way to say "Hey I'm fucking awesome with this champion so get the fuck out of my way." If your team is using more skins than your enemy team, you basically have already won. Some skins do offer very minor alterations in the way that a champion plays - skins with sunglasses, for instance, take 1 less damage from the sun-based champion Leona's attacks.

Game Stuff

1. Do not be aggressive.

There will be a serious urge to want to kill enemy champs. Resist! Death is an all-around loss: your opponents get more cash and experience, you miss out on experience and your lane risks getting pushed. If you set-up a kill and fail, do not continue chasing. In many cases, you will just die to a tower or get ganked. While later on you will learn when to take risks, early in your career it's best to be less aggressive and just let the other guy get away.

2. Do not focus on KDR.

Your kill-death-ratio is not the end-all of your value. It is possible to lose despite having a serious kill advantage over the enemy team! Certain champions, once getting the right items, can be unstoppable murder machines. Even if you do kill them a lot, if they reach this threshold, it's possible for a dramatic reversal to occur. It is far more important to support your team's objectives: push towers, protect your own towers from being pushed and keep your team informed of enemy activity. It is far better to have a modest KDR and win, than be the team killer and lose.

3. Do watch the minimap and your enemy.

Enemy locations are important! In your low-level games you will likely have two champs tops lane, one mid and two bottom (in later level games, one from top will be off "jungling," so top will have just one champ). If a player in YOUR lane is missing, let the team know. The player might just be heading back to base to buy items, or they could be trying to jump your friend in another lane. And mention when they came back to your lane! But this doesn't mean you should rely wholly on team recon. Watch the minimap yourself for enemy locations in other lanes whenever you can. People aren't perfect, and sometimes that warning comes a bit too late. Another set of eyes is always useful.

4. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big-reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS.

5. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS. Yes, I posted this twice. It is that important.

6. Do something.

So you just wiped the enemy team out. Hooray! But...what are you doing now? Did you just go back to your respective lanes and farm? Incorrect! You now have precious map control, and should be taking advantage of it. Gather up as a team and take out a tower. Head to the dragon and get a clean kill. Steal enemy creeps (especially their blue and red buffs). You can always check the status of both teams by pressing tab. If multiple enemies are waiting on respawn, then you need to press that advantage.

7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.



8. Do buy wards.

Seriously, kids. If Hargaad can do it, so can you. I know you have 75 gold just laying around sometimes. Don't feed us with your bullshit of, "But I need to save for x item!" No! Fuck you, and your high horse. If you don't buy wards, and you die a lot, nobody on your team is going to be able to save you from a beefed up (whatever) lane.

9. Learn to speak ping.

All you really need to communicate effectively in this game is to be able to use the pings it provides.

To use these pings, hold down the Alt, Ctrl, G, or V keys while clicking to show the new ping overlay. Then, move your mouse in the direction of the ping you want to issue, and release. You can perform this action either on the terrain or the minimap for precision pinging.
It is unacceptable to blame players that aren't typing at all, or players that are not speaking in English.:

Meet the Team

Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Marksman:
Examples include Caitlyn, Ezreal, Ashe and Vayne.

If your team is a car, then the marksman is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The marksman, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the marksman relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, however, marksmen tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs.

2. The Tank:
Examples include Leona, Sejuani, Zac and Nautilus.

Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up.

3. The Support:
Examples include Soraka, Sona, Nami and Janna.

I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either way, supports help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Supports tend to assist the marksman by allowing the marksman to stay in the lane longer. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, supports don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit.


4. The Assassin:
Examples include Kha'zix, Talon, Zed and Evelynn.

If we're sticking with the car metaphor, the assassin is like your car having a button you can press which will make that other car's engine implode. Assassins generally specialise in high single-target damage and mobility, allowing them to quickly eliminate enemy marksmen and mages with ease. If you're playing as a squishy and vulnerable target, these guys are going to be your biggest threat - ask your team to try and keep them from harming you. Assassins also generally need to get kills early in order to stay competitive into the later stages of the game.

5. The Mage:
Examples include Brand, Syndra, Lux and Annie.

Mages are a broad category, with their defining feature being that they primarily deal damage at range through their abilities and not auto-attacks. Some, like Lissandra, focus less on dealing damage and more on being able to control the enemy team's movement. Others, like Brand or Ziggs, have relatively less utility and are instead capable of putting out high amounts of damage. Mages benefit strongly from their role's innate flexibility, and can have a huge impact on team fights.

6. The Fighter:
Examples include Garen, Renekton, Trundle and Vi.

Fighters are melee attackers with a mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. They're not as hard to kill as a tank, and not able to throw out as much damage as an assassin, but they can still prove to be fearsome opponents - especially if they stay alive and are allowed to deal their damage over time. Like mages, the fighter role is incredibly versatile, with each fighter having a different mixture of damage and utility.

7. The Jungler:
Examples include Warwick, Udyr, Xin Zhao and Jarvan IV.

Although not a label Riot applies to their champions, the jungler is a role that you'll begin to see at higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible during lower levels on a few champs, even at summoner level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle (the parts of the map in between lanes) and kills neutral creeps (or "monsters"). This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide, and is only a rough outline of the basics! Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Ezreal is a marksman/mage, for instance, and Taric is a support/tank.:

What's this I hear about different maps?

There are four different maps in League of Legends, each of which has a different style of gameplay. In some cases, different items will be available on each of them, and champions might be altered slightly.

1. Summoner's Rift.

This is the most well-known map, and what you'll probably be spending most of your time on. Featuring five players on each team, the goal is to destroy the enemy's team base (or nexus). Waves of friendly NPCs ("minions") will attempt to help you reach your objective, although standing in their way are increasingly strong sets of turrets (alongside the enemy team and their minions). In between the lanes which your minions will travel along are neutral monsters which you can destroy for more gold. There are also two very large monsters, the dragon and Baron Nashor, which can require your entire team attacking them to be taken down - but the rewards for doing so are great.

2. The Howling Abyss.

The simplest map, this is essentially a single lane version of Summoner's Rift. Five players on each team control a randomly chosen character, and aim to destroy the enemy team's nexus first. Things are made more complicated by the players being unable to buy items, unless it's the start of the game or they've recently died. This map also has creatures called Poros roaming it, making it the best map by default.

Recently the Howling Abyss underwent a pirate makeover! It is now Butchers Bay. No special gimmicks or anything, just a new look for an old friend.

3. The Crystal Scar.

This is the only map for the game mode known as "Dominion". Again a 5v5 mode, the novelty here is that the map features control points that players must "capture" and hold onto in order to win. There are five control points, and the team that holds less of them slowly lose health from their nexus - until it reaches zero, and they lose. Dotted around the map are speed boosts and health packs. The basic strategy for Dominion involves sending four players to the top point, and one strong duelist or pusher to the bottom lane of the map. Tip; take Revive.

Dominion is never going to receive a ranked mode. It is also the best.

4. The Twisted Treeline.

The 3v3 gametype known as Twisted Treeline was fully launched in March 2010, but it was relaunched with an entirely new map in October 2012 because of some serious design flaws in the original map that Riot decided were unfixable. The new map is still in beta, but will be exiting beta Soon™. However, 3v3 still at least gets more support than Dominion. While still fundamentally the same gameplay, there are some key differences from Summoner's Rift to keep in mind - the lack of wards and altered objectives being the most important. Much more info here!

Other useful LoL related websites and videos

:
Surrender@20 - For all the latest LoL news and a sneak peak at any upcoming content on the Public Beta Environment.
http://www.solomid.net/ - A more advanced and polished version of Mobafire. Solomid offers intricate guides on champs that've been tried and tested by the community. Best for more advanced players of lvl 20+
http://www.lolking.net/ - A site useful for looking at skins, as their splash art can be quite different from their in-game appearance. It's also good for looking up summoners, statistics about the game, and guides for champions.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com - The standard LoL website! Info on the game can be found here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggKB98It0Q -
The basics of laning and last hitting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM -
Shurelya's guide on zoning!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVtmV0FzW_0
SivHD's guide to never raging again.


Saintvicious Jungle guides.
List of helpful LoL terminology.
Sign up for a LoL debit card to earn RP!

Stuff You Should Know
- Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
- Some promo codes will work on multiple servers. Some will not. Yes, this is confusing.
- Map vision wins games - BUY WARDS.
- It is a team wide effort, everyone buys wards.
- When in doubt, take Ignite/Flash.

For emergency use only, use in case of shipping chat:

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Instructions: replace the "Burnage" portion of the url with the name of the intended target.

PrjctD_Captain

Saving this spot so I can set up the Penta section again.

Hiryu02

@Goumindong

Thanks again, I'm rushing Hydra usually if I'm ahead in lane but didn't know if I should be getting TF. I guess I will build Black Cleaver second for more AD/hp/cdr second.

Infidel

I like how you changed the spray example to @Burnage

DasUberEdward

man i am just dropping over the last few days.

i had that huge crashing issue that knocked me out of my promos and it's just been downhill since then.

Goumindong

Hiryu02 wrote: »

@Goumindong

Thanks again, I'm rushing Hydra usually if I'm ahead in lane but didn't know if I should be getting TF. I guess I will build Black Cleaver second for more AD/hp/cdr second.

Yes. Darius is a 1 to 2 damage item champion. So yoir item options are hydra, whisper, maw, or cleaver. You can get maw and cleaver and hydra if you really want as Maw/Cleaver are good .5 damage items.

BC is really good on him regardless because of the CDR and move speed (the move speed being the primary reason he would like triforce). Maw/hexdrinker is good against double AP or a decent holdover for laning against them. Whisper is full offense but probably overkill unless you really have to shred a tank and your AD is behind.

So thinking about it more I think that hydra/Cleaver is your core. Hexdrinker is ok against AP (finish Maw Last) and then peel tank items like randuins/face of the mountain/aegis

PrjctD_Captain

Infidel wrote: »

I like how you changed the spray example to @Burnage

Well, I had to update SOMETHING. Felt appropriate.

spool32

I'm 1-1 on the way to Bronze 4 and Morgana keeps delivering. Lategame is just a series of

*roots you*
*game ends, your account is still rooted*
*start next game rooted in fountain*

CesareB

spool32 wrote: »

I'm 1-1 on the way to Bronze 4 and Morgana keeps delivering. Lategame is just a series of

*roots you*
*game ends, your account is still rooted*
*start next game rooted in fountain*

Yeah Morg is great that way. I love her from support because good wards enable good snares. My last game was especially fun because we had a mid Viktor and that is the easiest CC chaining ever.

Spectrum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbdtzOIRh1Y&feature=em-uploademail

spool32

All the images in the OP Spoiler tag are broken.

JAEF

DasUberEdward wrote: »

man i am just dropping over the last few days.

i had that huge crashing issue that knocked me out of my promos and it's just been downhill since then.

What do we do when we fall, Master Edward?

DasUberEdward

JAEF wrote: »

DasUberEdward wrote: »

man i am just dropping over the last few days.

i had that huge crashing issue that knocked me out of my promos and it's just been downhill since then.

What do we do when we fall, Master Edward?

Get into your series after a dozen or so difficult games then have your internet connection start dropping so you're playing with a pint over 1000. Apparently.

edit: sigh. of course it's an internet maintenance issue from time warner cable. of course.

surrealitycheck

JAEF wrote: »

DasUberEdward wrote: »

man i am just dropping over the last few days.

i had that huge crashing issue that knocked me out of my promos and it's just been downhill since then.

What do we do when we fall, Master Edward?

give up and smoke 18 marijuanas

Asthariel

Jesus, i think i lost last 7 ranked games, and at this point i am afraid of playing. With 3 lp im pretty sure that two more loses and i will get demoted.

And here i thought, that the era of "20 wins in a row, then 20 loses in a row" has ended...

PrjctD_Captain

spool32 wrote: »

All the images in the OP Spoiler tag are broken.

Oh effing, this is what I get for only spending 5 minutes on this last night after already being tired. Give me a bit, I'll fix the OP. Thanks for pointing it out.

Hiryu02

Is Kha or Rengar a better jungler right now? I know Rengar can delete faster than Kha, but Kha also has in and out options because he doesn't rely on his ult to engage. I mean, Kha can E in, then ult out and run away if things get hairy where Rengar is kinda stuck there. Now Rengar has the hard CC with empowered E, but once he is in, he's in. Right?

Kruite

Right. You can try to use Bola to disengage if you overestimated your kitty power.

Sir Landshark

IMO, Rengar is better for snowballing your lanes (double empowered E is plenty of cc) but Khazix will be a better teamfighter late game because of the reset potential on his evolved E and massive scaling on isolated targets with his evolved Q (I wouldn't count on his ult to get you out unless you evolve it, 1 second invis isn't much). I personally prefer Khazix and mained him through a lot of Season 3 until his Q got meganerfed (he seems to be in an OK place now with the recent small buffs), but either would be viable. Khazix probably is more forgiving to learn?

Hargaad of Omnar

DasUberEdward wrote: »

JAEF wrote: »

DasUberEdward wrote: »

man i am just dropping over the last few days.

i had that huge crashing issue that knocked me out of my promos and it's just been downhill since then.

What do we do when we fall, Master Edward?

Get into your series after a dozen or so difficult games then have your internet connection start dropping so you're playing with a pint over 1000. Apparently.

edit: sigh. of course it's an internet maintenance issue from time warner cable. of course.

Yeah, I'm having trouble with Time Warner, too.
Google, hurry up with your expansion!

DasUberEdward

At this point

My last 3 promos have ended by collusion or technical failure.

This time it was in my favor because there was a Blitzcrank on the enemy team who wanted to drop down to bronze and intentionally fed while trolling his team and my team.

I don't even know what to make of this game anymore. My team was actually trying to lose because our ADC was mad that we had a teemo jungle and therefore refused to leash or participate in ganks.


it's just. . .a race to see who can be the worst first.

and with that game. my W/L is at 1:1 and i'm back to where I was at the start of the season. yay ;-;

MKR

I'm enjoying this game so far. I'm especially getting better at being dropped into an unfamiliar champion in ARAM and working out how to operate it. There are some buzzkills who want to be toxic or surrender a winnable match, but they're tolerable.

I'm sitting in the PA chat (Firebreak), but I'll be in and out of the client.

spool32

MKR wrote: »

I'm enjoying this game so far. I'm especially getting better at being dropped into an unfamiliar champion in ARAM and working out how to operate it. There are some buzzkills who want to be toxic or surrender a winnable match, but they're tolerable.

I'm sitting in the PA chat (Firebreak), but I'll be in and out of the client.

The PA chat is back?

I played swain for the first time last night and I already want to buy him.

MKR

spool32 wrote: »

MKR wrote: »

I'm enjoying this game so far. I'm especially getting better at being dropped into an unfamiliar champion in ARAM and working out how to operate it. There are some buzzkills who want to be toxic or surrender a winnable match, but they're tolerable.

I'm sitting in the PA chat (Firebreak), but I'll be in and out of the client.

The PA chat is back?

I played swain for the first time last night and I already want to buy him.

I see people.

PrjctD_Captain

So, if I wanted to start playing Shyv, what is the suggested build right now? Devour into BorK into tank? Or just skip the BorK?

Hiryu02

Well. That ended better than I thought. I assumed my Yi didn't need wolves so I could cheese level 2 and argued with him about it, and I took a bit of farm from him in bad faith, before he pointed out he was Devourer and needed the farm. I think that's the first time I may have been BM on purpose. I decided to apologize midgame and he was very gracious, and gave me red after he hit sated and we wrecked faces so hard they ff'd after we 2v3/4'd their team. Next time I need to not argue with my JG and assume they don't need wolves, bad form on my end, even without him/her using Devourer. He added me as a friend and invited me to join their group queue next time, so I think there was no hard feelings.

Dehumanized

PrjctD_Captain wrote: »

So, if I wanted to start playing Shyv, what is the suggested build right now? Devour into BorK into tank? Or just skip the BorK?

yep, devourer (chilling smite) into bork is your core. grab either mercs or tabis.

after that, build to the situation... good ideas are black cleaver, hexdrinker (vs bursty AP), randuins

you can also go cinderhulk, but I don't think that really plays to shyvana's strengths as a split-pushy, megafarming damage threat

case study: Hai vs. Team 8
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001280089?gameHash=bd91475eb3a1809a&tab=builds&participant=7

Jars

warmog's is hot on shy because she gets a ton of innate mitigation

Burnage

In preparation for my dozen or so Fiora games, how has the meta changed in the past seven or so months?

LilleDjevel

So did they remove borderless? Only options I have are full screen or window.

Burnage wrote: »

In preparation for my dozen or so Fiora games, how has the meta changed in the past seven or so months?

Farm junglers are back, not much else I think.

Hiryu02

LilleDjevel wrote: »

So did they remove borderless? Only options I have are full screen or window.

Burnage wrote: »

In preparation for my dozen or so Fiora games, how has the meta changed in the past seven or so months?

Farm junglers are back, not much else I think.

Use your mousewheel to scroll down for borderless. Its apparently a known ui bug.

LilleDjevel

Hiryu02 wrote: »

LilleDjevel wrote: »

So did they remove borderless? Only options I have are full screen or window.

Burnage wrote: »

In preparation for my dozen or so Fiora games, how has the meta changed in the past seven or so months?

Farm junglers are back, not much else I think.

Use your mousewheel to scroll down for borderless. Its apparently a known ui bug.

Ah thank you! Don't know why it went away from borderless to begin with.

spool32

Burnage wrote: »

In preparation for my dozen or so Fiora games, how has the meta changed in the past seven or so months?

I see lots of ADC/Support combos taking the rocks in bot lane when the jungler starts blue buff on the blue side. You come to lane weaker but you'll hit lvl2 quick.

Jars

I took cowman top and started out 4/0 but lost. sadface

Hiryu02

I have just now realized that if I take my first tower quickly, I can shove my wave, roam mid and help gank/pressure that lane instead of trying to push my lane into the inner turret. That way im not in my lane far from my tower, and I could potentially help mid take their first turret and open up their area of the map.

I have a lot to learn about this game.

Spectrum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDA-v-hgM0U

gam3p0t

Hiryu02 wrote: »

Well. That ended better than I thought. I assumed my Yi didn't need wolves so I could cheese level 2 and argued with him about it, and I took a bit of farm from him in bad faith, before he pointed out he was Devourer and needed the farm. I think that's the first time I may have been BM on purpose. I decided to apologize midgame and he was very gracious, and gave me red after he hit sated and we wrecked faces so hard they ff'd after we 2v3/4'd their team. Next time I need to not argue with my JG and assume they don't need wolves, bad form on my end, even without him/her using Devourer. He added me as a friend and invited me to join their group queue next time, so I think there was no hard feelings.

Truth be told he shouldn't care about you cheesing wolves for level two unless he plans on smiting it for the ghost passive. Because A) First clear he still should be focused on the maximum clear speed with most health (I don't know the path for Yi, I don't play him at all.) The wolves generally will be reset by the time he needs them, and honestly if hes attempting to max stack devourer he should be more focused on taking scuttle with the camps. Just a heads up that generally on a jungler's first clear he will take (gromp/krugs depending on his preferred start and who it is, though several junglers now have it figured and timed out to start strictly with the blue/ red buff allowing his laners to take the first bot side jungle camp (Krugs or Gromp depending on red or blue to give them the early level 2 for the all in) My personal jungle path is Gromp>blue> dragon scuttle> red buff> baron scuttle ( or inverse if im opposite map side) Krugs>red>drag scuttle> blue> baron scuttle because that gives me a solid first clear as far as gold on back and I don't get too low health wise with the two pots; though I will admit I tend to play lee sin/j4/ tankier junglers who can handle face tanking the first mob..

And correct me if im wrong but devourer doesn't start stacking until you have the item built correct? or is it like the old feral flare that starts tracking as soon as you buy the machete?

DasUberEdward

after game chat

Sejuani: I just don't think it's a good idea to push all 5 if you might lose a tower

. . .I think the way I have to start winning games is by spectrally inhabiting my teammates bodies and forcing them to push objectives when we have a lead.

I could not get them to stop chasing udyr and to group at any point in the game. It was the saddest thing.

Orphane

did caitlyn just get caught out all game or something

jesus

DasUberEdward

she kept fighting on top of dead Karthus.

and i'm like bb pls. . .pls don't stand on the filthy skeleton. it's bad for you.

spool32

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