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Razor Blades

thegloamingthegloaming Registered User regular
edited April 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
After years of going with cheap disposable razors, I've decided I want to upgrade my shaving experience a bit. Since my dad uses an electric, he has little advice to offer in regard to non-electric safety razors, so I'm turning to the facial-hair laden PA community for advice.

I'm looking for a razor that's refill-capable, easy to clean, and delivers a close shave. Basically, please list the razors which serve or have served you well.

I'm not looking for anything too fancy. I can't grow a beard or anything, but if I don't shave for a day I wake up with a disgusting mustache, sideburns, and chin hair. It's mild, but very noticeable and not at all attractive.

Help me, burly men of PA!

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I like the mach 3 turbo myself. I dunno if that's what you mean.

    I hear that straight razors are the best shave you can get, but they're somewhat expensive, and alot of maintenance. But hey, you feel like a goddam MAN.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Unless you slip and slice yourself, mang.


    I like the mach 3 turbo as well. Pretty clean shaving experience.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2007
    Another vote for Mach 3. I tried the Quattro, but it sucked. Stay away.

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  • nethneth Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    i'll toss in another vote for the mach 3, works great, don't see a need for 4 blades.

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  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I use the mach 3 turbo as well - I took a vacation from it a while back and tried several other kinds but went back to it.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Does anyone have a recommendation for a good razor to do a little detail work?

    I have a goatee and I often find the mach 3 a little unwieldy when it comes to cleaning up the edges of the goat. (I use an electric trimmer to keep it fairly maintained otherwise).

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Y'know, I tried that Fusion thing (that's what it's called, right?) With the exception of the nifty trimming blade on the back, the shave was nothing compared to your everyday Mach 3. So here's another vote for the Mach 3 turbo.

    As far as keeping the goat clean, I use a small electric trimmer. It has different heads for different uses and has served me well for many years. I think they still sell it, too. Yeah, here it is. linky
    This one looks pretty good, too.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    "Lube for Life"


    I'm sold. Thanks, Red.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Yeah I use the mach 3 as well. It's just awesome.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    After years of going with cheap disposable razors, I've decided I want to upgrade my shaving experience a bit. Since my dad uses an electric, he has little advice to offer in regard to non-electric safety razors, so I'm turning to the facial-hair laden PA community for advice.

    I'm looking for a razor that's refill-capable, easy to clean, and delivers a close shave. Basically, please list the razors which serve or have served you well.

    I'm not looking for anything too fancy. I can't grow a beard or anything, but if I don't shave for a day I wake up with a disgusting mustache, sideburns, and chin hair. It's mild, but very noticeable and not at all attractive.

    Help me, burly men of PA!

    The best shave you can get short of a straight razor is with either a DE (double edge) safety razor or a Schick Injector. They're single blade razors originally developed about 100 years ago and most guys find they offer a closer shave with less irritation, but the downside is that until you develop your technique, you're more likely to nick yourself. They're also much cheaper than cartridge razors (Mach 3, etc) and the blade lasts longer too.

    Also, about the best thing you can do for your shave is to use better shave cream. Stop using the shit in the aerosol can and get some traditional shave cream and a badger hair brush. Geo F Trumper's, Taylor's of Old Bond Street and Truefitt and Hill, are all great English shave creams. They might cost a bit more than a spray can, but they will last much longer and you'll get a much closer shave with less irritation. Your skin will look better in no time.

    Personally, I recommend you start with a Schick Injector as the technique is closer to that of a cartridge razor, so the learning curve isn't as steep. A DE razor requires much closer attention to the angle of the
    blade and amount of pressure applied and whatnot that can make the first week or two worse than a cartridge razor as you'll likely scrape the hell out of your face.

    Merkur Progress DE razor:
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    Classic Schick Injector with bakelite handle:
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    Shave cream and badger hair brush:
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  • ZclyhZclyh Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Like almost everyone before me, I vote for the Gillette Mach 3. I use Gillette's shaving cream and aftershave lotion, and I get a lot of complements on my close shaves. I've been using them for a few years and I haven't been disappointed. Just be warned: the replacement cartridges are pricey, but if you use them correctly, you can get a lot of use out of them.

    Don't nick yourself. 'Cause, I'm telling you, it hurts bad. And is slightly embarrassing.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    JWFokker is 100% correct.

    While we're all using the Mach 3 or the Mach 3 turbo, the straight razor is actually a much closer and smoother shave.

    The badger hair brush and creme applies to the folks using the Mach 3 as well. It's a quick and easy way to upgrade your shaving experience.

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  • bigpandabigpanda Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The Mach 3 is very good, but I regressed to the Sensor Excel since I shave my head and need to get into the crevice of that fat pack that I carry on my neck lest I have a band of hair back there.

    Also the recommendation for the real shave soap and badger brush are seconded. I use them for my face from time to time and do get a great shave (love the almond scented ones). But since I tend to use Barbasol for my scalp I've been using it for the face as well, but the condition of my skin has suffered somewhat due to it.

    I've thought about going the single razor (i.e. Merkur) route or a straight razor, but puss out when I see the inital price and consider the results if I slip in the shower.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I use a straight razor and a DE. The straight razor, as close and awesome as it is, is something I only use when I have loads of time or am about to go do something important (i.e. date, interview etc). The Merkur HD is my main choice in the mornings.

    It doesn't take all that long to get the hang of the DE razor and it will be much cheaper in the long run so long as you don't do anything stupid to it.

    And the shave cream and brush should belong to all men regardless of razor preference; it just makes the shave better.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Hmm..do they still sell that Schick Injector?

    I can't find it anywhere. I can find the razor blades (amazon), but not the handle.

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Ebay's got them all over the place. Unless you're in Japan, I don't think you can buy one in the store though.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    if you want a straight razr shave go pay 10 bucks and get a real barber to do it.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Mach 3 when I need to. But I'm a pussy and like using my electric Norelco. But Mach 3 rules.

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  • HlubockyHlubocky Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I upgraded to the badger brush and English shaving cream a few months ago and recently decided to upgrade even further to the Merkur HD safety razor. I have been using it for about 5 days now and have been honing my technique. I still have some trouble getting a close shave under the chin, but so far I haven't cut myself once. Doing things the old fashioned way takes a bit more time, but I find it a good way to get a bit more pleasure out of something so routine.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I tried the Mach 3 and the Quattro (FIVE FUCKING BLADES!) and liked them both, but really I think the bags of disposeable razors you can get at the 99c store work just a good.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The gillette fusion is better, imo, then the mach 3. It's a much smoother shave. I used to use the mach 3 but then upgraded to the fusion, and I couldn't be happier with the results.

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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I am using the gillette Fusion right now. It is damn near impossible to cut yourself with it and it gives a great shave.

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  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I was tyhinking about picking up a Merkur Futur shaving set, which includes badger brush, soap dish and stand. But I don't really have any experience with this kind of razor. Is this the kind of thing I could start off with or should I find something else and work up to something like this?

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'm actually looking forward to upgrading my shave experience.

    I'll say that the Merkur looks slightly intimidating. I like my chin just where it is, thanks. The Schick Injector has me intrigued and if ebay has them on the cheap, I may grab one now that I know I can get blades for it.

    We men of PA. We clean shaven gods.

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  • AlphariusAlpharius Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    i'm a mach 3 man myself

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mach 3 is my razor of choice as well

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    I'm actually looking forward to upgrading my shave experience.

    I'll say that the Merkur looks slightly intimidating. I like my chin just where it is, thanks. The Schick Injector has me intrigued and if ebay has them on the cheap, I may grab one now that I know I can get blades for it.

    We men of PA. We clean shaven gods.


    It's really not all that hard to get used to a DE; I don't think I knick myself any more often than I did back in the double bladed sensor excel days. Besides, it is a "safety razor." I don't think anyone considering a DE should be incredibly worried about lopping their parts off. Though, if you're considering a straight razor, the lopping of parts must be a consideration.

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  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    where would one buy these "badger brushes" and creams to go with them? would walgreens have em? or is that just a silly question?

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  • HlubockyHlubocky Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'm in Chicago and I had to go to some fancy department stores to get mine (Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, etc). You can get them online also, but it is almost guaranteed that any brush you find in a Walgreens will be a boar hair brush and not a badger hair (badger from what I understand is more popular because it absorbs a lot more water). I had to order the Merkur razor and blades from Amazon since I couldn't find them anywhere in my area, though I didn't look very hard.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Now that we have covered razors, cremes, and brushes... is it worth a little back and forth on aftershave lotions, skin products, etc?

    I usually just shave and rinse off. I fail. I'm aware of this.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Every Sunday I use a straight, but when short on time or especially bleary, good ol' Sensor Excel does the trick. I didn't like the mach 3, and I hated the razorpad feel of the Quattro.

    The ritualistic nature of the straight razor calls to me when I'm getting my hombre on for the night. I'm kind of like a mangirl that way though, I'll spend well over an hour (even two) grooming everything to an immaculate perfection.

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I find aftershave lotions are a must. If I don't use them, my neck gets quite itchy and red (I have very sensitive neck skin.) When I got that Fusion, it came with some Fusion aftershave gel stuff. It works quite well and smells pretty okay.

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  • Akilae729Akilae729 Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I currently have a Braun electric, but i get mad irritation and shit (little zits) and stuff. I clean it out after every use with hot water, and let it air dry on my bookshelf, but I still keep getting all this irritation.

    Does a regular razor produce less irritation to the skin than an electric?

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Hmm..do they still sell that Schick Injector?

    I can't find it anywhere. I can find the razor blades (amazon), but not the handle.
    redimpulse wrote: »
    Ebay's got them all over the place. Unless you're in Japan, I don't think you can buy one in the store though.

    They stopped selling them in Japan too a couple years ago if I remember correctly. But ebay is definitely the place to get them. From the ancient 1920's models to the most recent models in Japan, they all have the exact same head and angle so they all shave just as well, it's more a matter of preference for looks and whether you like a short or long handle.
    I was tyhinking about picking up a Merkur Futur shaving set, which includes badger brush, soap dish and stand. But I don't really have any experience with this kind of razor. Is this the kind of thing I could start off with or should I find something else and work up to something like this?

    The Merkur Futur and Progress are both adjustable, in that you can change the blade angle to a more or less agressive position. Generally, you should start with the Merkur HD (Heavy Duty) as it's non adjustable and has a less aggressive angle.

    Also, anyone considering using a DE razor or Injector should watch these videos on wet shaving:

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mantic59

    He knows his fucking stuff.

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  • bigpandabigpanda Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    For those looking for badger hair brushes, run a search on google, you'll turn up many online stores that sell them. I have two back home in Michigan (didn't think to pack them in the move), one was left to me by my grandfather, the other I purchased from J. Peterman awhile back. If you're buying the badger hair brush, most sites that sell them also sell shaving soap which I love using, however the difficulty in locating a local seller keeps me from using it as much as I'd like to.

    As for those asking about electric razors, I've tried several times to switch to them merely so that I can shave on the go a little more easily. Only thing is that they've always, always, always given me a rougher shave than a regular razor and they tell you that your skin needs to get used to them, but mine never did so I had horrible razor burn (nigh unbearable).

    I also don't use aftershave. The alcohol based stuff dries out my skin too much and the balm/cream based stuff ends up making me breakout. So the 'ol water method is for me (although this soft west coast water is much easier than the hard water back in Mich).

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    You should try using either jojoba or rosehip seed oil for a post shave treatment. I've never liked creams and balms much either, though Trumper's Skin Food is very good, but also expensive.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    I tried the Mach 3 and the Quattro (FIVE FUCKING BLADES!) and liked them both, but really I think the bags of disposeable razors you can get at the 99c store work just a good.


    I don't want to be mean to you then, you either have poor technique or you don't have a very dense beard.

    I've used a disposable razor once in my life and swore off them, they are akin to rubbing a rock all over your face, a blunt mach 3 delivers a closer shave.

    If you want to stick with cartridges, go with the Mach3 turbo cartridges but buy the m3 power handle, that vibrating thingie I find works better than the standard handle and the cartidges are interchangable and as far as I can tell work the same other than the cost and you aren't colour corordinated.

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  • PaliPali Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I use a Mach 3 for when I dont have time, and a Rolls Imperial No.2 Razor & Strop when I have time =)

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    where would one buy these "badger brushes" and creams to go with them? would walgreens have em? or is that just a silly question?
    Hlubocky wrote: »
    I'm in Chicago and I had to go to some fancy department stores to get mine (Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, etc). You can get them online also, but it is almost guaranteed that any brush you find in a Walgreens will be a boar hair brush and not a badger hair (badger from what I understand is more popular because it absorbs a lot more water). I had to order the Merkur razor and blades from Amazon since I couldn't find them anywhere in my area, though I didn't look very hard.

    Classicshaving.com and Leesrazors.com are the two sites I turn to when I want to buy razors or related accoutrements. They've been around a while and they're no frills, not hypercommercialized like The Art of Shaving and MenEssentials, and are consequently cheaper. They've also got way better selection.

    You can get DE razor blades and Injector blades at drug stores, but I've never seen a razor, brush or traditional shave cream there. You can get by with a cheap Vulfix boar's hair brush, you'll just need to add a bit more water when you lather the cream. The brush isn't as important to your shave quality as the price of a top grade badger brush would suggest.
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Now that we have covered razors, cremes, and brushes... is it worth a little back and forth on aftershave lotions, skin products, etc?

    I usually just shave and rinse off. I fail. I'm aware of this.


    First, when you rinse, use warm water to completely remove the shave cream, then use cold water to close the pores. As for post shave products, jojoba oil and rosehip seed oil are great. They're not actually oils, but straight chain wax esters similar to the esters produced by your own skin. Other good alternatives are Trumper's Skin Food and Nancy Boy aftershave. Supposedly, The Gentlemen's Refinery Aftershave Balm is as good as the discontinued, legendary Harris Aftershave Milk, but I've yet to try it because it's $40. Despite the fact that it would take a very long time to use up, I still have a problem with dropping $40 on aftershave balm. Even Trumper's Skin Food isn't that pricey.

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I just started using a brush, shaving soap and safety razor recently, and I have to say I'm really enjoying it. It's no more dangerous than shaving with a blade cartridge, and it is a lot more enjoyable and a lot cheaper (I got a sampler pack of 25 blades from five different brands for $12). The only downsides are that it takes a bit longer, and you need to pay attention when doing it to avoid nicks and irritation. But honestly, I look forward to shaving now, and have gone from shaving three times a week to every day.

    If you want a nice cheap badger hair brush, check this one out.

    As far as creams go, it depends. The best you'll be able to find in stores used to be Proraso soaps and creams at Target (in the spa section, not shaving), but they've recently dropped their products. If you're lucky, you could find them on clearance. Other products you could get at a drug store are Williams shaving soap (never used it), and maybe Toms & Maine shaving cream. To be honest, it'd probably be easiest to get them online.

    If you really want to look into products and other info on wetshaving, there are a lot of resources online. First of all, there is a really comprehensive post on how to cheaply get into wetshaving on the shavemyface forum. There is also a great collection of videos on youtube. I also recommend looking through this guys blog. The link is a general guide, but if you click on the link that says "My Shaving Knowledge", there is a much more indepth one.

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