I'd think that a SR wouldn't wind up being very powerful compared to the SSR ones that I've already got? Skill would help the other two guys out that turn, but not sure it's worth it.
Taking a glance at their stat pages, it looks like Goku Jr. is better than those two (Gohan and Vegito) right now, pre-Dokkan. But worse once they're Dokkaned and maxed. So I might switch one of them out for now, until I have the cost to accommodate their Dokkaned forms (and time to farm medals and level them up again).
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I think the big advantage of Goku Jr. is that you basically get his entire potential grid and supers level for free from the event.
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Is Kale Extreme or Super?
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I think I all of Universe 6 outside of Hit are Super.
And Frost, but he already got released a while ago.
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Yeah, I was looking at the universe 6 event and saw that hit was actually an Extreme guy and it made me wonder.
So it's just Champa, Hit, and Frost then. But you'd think that if Hit was Extreme, then Berserk Kale would also be extreme, right?
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It really fucks over Hit, too. He's not the best but he links well with Super Int, whereas he has like one relevant link with Extreme Int.
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Yeah, I was looking at the universe 6 event and saw that hit was actually an Extreme guy and it made me wonder.
So it's just Champa, Hit, and Frost then. But you'd think that if Hit was Extreme, then Berserk Kale would also be extreme, right?
There's no real rhyme or reason to it. You could say it's because Hit is an assassin or because he is technically Goku's enemy, but those arguments don't really seem strong
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Yeah, I was looking at the universe 6 event and saw that hit was actually an Extreme guy and it made me wonder.
So it's just Champa, Hit, and Frost then. But you'd think that if Hit was Extreme, then Berserk Kale would also be extreme, right?
There's no real rhyme or reason to it. You could say it's because Hit is an assassin or because he is technically Goku's enemy, but those arguments don't really seem strong
I'm just using the Vegeta Rules for it. Sayain Saga Vegeta? Extreme. Android Saga Vegeta? Super. Majin Vegeta? Extreme. Dragonball Super Vegeta? Super.
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Yeah, I was looking at the universe 6 event and saw that hit was actually an Extreme guy and it made me wonder.
So it's just Champa, Hit, and Frost then. But you'd think that if Hit was Extreme, then Berserk Kale would also be extreme, right?
There's no real rhyme or reason to it. You could say it's because Hit is an assassin or because he is technically Goku's enemy, but those arguments don't really seem strong
Yeah, it seems like a technicality, really. In his first fight with Goku, Hit was, like, a really honorable dude with a pretty clear code of conduct? He's not strictly an ally, but also he's clearly not villainous.
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Oh I don't mind Hit being labeled as extreme.
It's Berserk Kale not being extreme that bugs me (especially since I just Dokkan'd my fuckin Cooler for a sweet ass PHY extreme team)
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Kale is a berserker, but her primary motivation is her love for Caulifla
Which I guess isn't evil enough for extreme?
Maybe?
Who knows
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It's kinda funny since right now my extreme PHY team has some shitty links (no full power frieza ) but is skirting close to my max cost (now 245 since I did some of the Supreme Kai quests and bought a +2 to team cost thing)
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That idea falls apart at step zero, as I never want to use this stupid guy in the first place.
So the guy looking for a 6th member for his Int team is going to pass up on a good support unit.
I already have a full team? And I don't see that he has any links that all the Saiyans are going to share with him? Unless I'm missing something crazy that he has.
That idea falls apart at step zero, as I never want to use this stupid guy in the first place.
So the guy looking for a 6th member for his Int team is going to pass up on a good support unit.
I already have a full team? And I don't see that he has any links that all the Saiyans are going to share with him? Unless I'm missing something crazy that he has.
His dokkan provides 2 ki, 20% attack and defense, which is pretty decent. Gohan has very easy attack links to trigger, so support units can fit into his team fairly easily. I'll have to check the numbers in a bit, but he should be worth at least 300k a turn even before attacking.
Edit - he also has Shocking Speed, which provides another 2 ki to Gohan.
Edit 2 - these ducking autocorrects
Edit 3 - Okay, so math wise, Whis could easily replace Ultimate Gohan or Vegito, but you can't replace both at the moment.
Vegito at SA 10 with the free dupe system, getting 5 orbs (which is probably dicey considering you want to conserve orbs for Gohan) should generate about 330k attack.
Ult. Gohan with the free dupe system will generate around 295k attack over his first three attacks.
Whis with no dupe system will generate 150k on his own, and get an additional 160k in boosts to Gohan. Any middle partner will listed will put him over Vegito's damage.
The best team you can make with the cards I'm aware of you having are:
Gohan
SSGSS Vegeta
Vegito
SSJ Goku (if you have him, better people than me have mathed out that the WT Int SSJ Goku actually is better than the orb changer)
Whis
SSJ Goku Jr.
Friend Gohan
If you get SSJ Gogeta he kicks off Vegito and becomes your lead, and if you get Rage Trunks he kicks off Vegeta or Vegito to be a link partner for Gohan.
I usually team Gohan up with the Goku that turns PHY spheres into INT. But I guess he could team up with the friend Gohan, whenever I manage to find one.
Looks like Whis only gets most of these good things when he's fully Dokkaned and everything, which is probably why I didn't notice anything interesting on the card I got.
Got a Risky Super Attack Tien (woo, good Super TEQ leader!) and A Warrior Obsessed Majin Vegeta (my first Attack All unit!)
These themed banners have been very good to me
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I finally got enough stones to do a pull from the Ladies of Universe Six banner, and I got a Yamcha.
Oh, and also motherfuckin' KAAAAAAALE
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My Mono AGL team is strong enough to take out Broly in Stage 2 of Berserker of Destruction in 1 round
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My Mono AGL team is strong enough to take out Broly in Stage 2 of Berserker of Destruction in 1 round
You have LR Majin Geets, right?
Yeah, but I haven't dokkaned him to his LR form yet. He's currently sitting at TUR because, uh, that's a LOT of medals to grind. Still, his leader skill is AMAZING for mono AGL.
Okay, so, currently working on getting medals for my Majin Vegeta to get him to LR.
Rose Colored Terror medals are pretty easy. My team can kill him with just two Senzu beans and no continues. I've got 10/21 of them so far.
Turns out the time I spent grinding Miracle Sword of Light medals wasn't useless at all, since MV actually needs them. Got 8/21 of them, but it's a pretty grindy fight for me, especially since my AGL team gets wrecked by second phase.
I've got 2/21 Darkness Shrouding the Future medals, but I cannot remember how well I fared. It was probably around the same difficulty for me as RCT?
I've got 2/21 for Blazing Blue Fusion and, uh, that battle was rough. Probably gonna save those ones for last.
I haven't tried the Shadow Dragons of Despair event yet. I fear the worst.
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Taking a glance at their stat pages, it looks like Goku Jr. is better than those two (Gohan and Vegito) right now, pre-Dokkan. But worse once they're Dokkaned and maxed. So I might switch one of them out for now, until I have the cost to accommodate their Dokkaned forms (and time to farm medals and level them up again).
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So, uh, yeah, that's a half-step away from an ideal pull for me.
Would have preferred Kale, but Caulfila will provide a nice defensive slot for my Super AGL team.
EDIT: Oh dang, that's NOT the LR Gohan, just one that looks very similar. Oh well, still nice.
I am also jealous of your Caulifla
I want stones
I think I all of Universe 6 outside of Hit are Super.
And Frost, but he already got released a while ago.
So it's just Champa, Hit, and Frost then. But you'd think that if Hit was Extreme, then Berserk Kale would also be extreme, right?
Even after Dokkan he has nothing? Not even for a generic Extreme team?
There's no real rhyme or reason to it. You could say it's because Hit is an assassin or because he is technically Goku's enemy, but those arguments don't really seem strong
I'm just using the Vegeta Rules for it. Sayain Saga Vegeta? Extreme. Android Saga Vegeta? Super. Majin Vegeta? Extreme. Dragonball Super Vegeta? Super.
Yeah, it seems like a technicality, really. In his first fight with Goku, Hit was, like, a really honorable dude with a pretty clear code of conduct? He's not strictly an ally, but also he's clearly not villainous.
It's Berserk Kale not being extreme that bugs me (especially since I just Dokkan'd my fuckin Cooler for a sweet ass PHY extreme team)
Which I guess isn't evil enough for extreme?
Maybe?
Who knows
Got Kale (Berserk)
*fistpump*
Guess I'm done with this banner
I think I have 3 or 4 of each of them now.
you can unlock their paths and 100% them at least :rotate:
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And they have a fully farmable SA!
So the guy looking for a 6th member for his Int team is going to pass up on a good support unit.
the AGL Whis is worth the free heal and proc stun. i couldn't have done the Boss Rushes without him.
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I already have a full team? And I don't see that he has any links that all the Saiyans are going to share with him? Unless I'm missing something crazy that he has.
His dokkan provides 2 ki, 20% attack and defense, which is pretty decent. Gohan has very easy attack links to trigger, so support units can fit into his team fairly easily. I'll have to check the numbers in a bit, but he should be worth at least 300k a turn even before attacking.
Edit - he also has Shocking Speed, which provides another 2 ki to Gohan.
Edit 2 - these ducking autocorrects
Edit 3 - Okay, so math wise, Whis could easily replace Ultimate Gohan or Vegito, but you can't replace both at the moment.
Vegito at SA 10 with the free dupe system, getting 5 orbs (which is probably dicey considering you want to conserve orbs for Gohan) should generate about 330k attack.
Ult. Gohan with the free dupe system will generate around 295k attack over his first three attacks.
Whis with no dupe system will generate 150k on his own, and get an additional 160k in boosts to Gohan. Any middle partner will listed will put him over Vegito's damage.
The best team you can make with the cards I'm aware of you having are:
Gohan
SSGSS Vegeta
Vegito
SSJ Goku (if you have him, better people than me have mathed out that the WT Int SSJ Goku actually is better than the orb changer)
Whis
SSJ Goku Jr.
Friend Gohan
If you get SSJ Gogeta he kicks off Vegito and becomes your lead, and if you get Rage Trunks he kicks off Vegeta or Vegito to be a link partner for Gohan.
Looks like Whis only gets most of these good things when he's fully Dokkaned and everything, which is probably why I didn't notice anything interesting on the card I got.
Not sure who I'd drop for him, though.
Got a Risky Super Attack Tien (woo, good Super TEQ leader!) and A Warrior Obsessed Majin Vegeta (my first Attack All unit!)
These themed banners have been very good to me
Oh, and also motherfuckin' KAAAAAAALE
My Mono AGL team is strong enough to take out Broly in Stage 2 of Berserker of Destruction in 1 round
You have LR Majin Geets, right?
Yeah, but I haven't dokkaned him to his LR form yet. He's currently sitting at TUR because, uh, that's a LOT of medals to grind. Still, his leader skill is AMAZING for mono AGL.
I'm wondering why they keep pushing back sSJ3 angel goku
I guess they might push him to post Gogeta/Janemba and replace him with SSJ4 Gogeta on the INT Gogeta banner
my only question is what do I do with 5 SSRs with gold Mr Satans on them
If you're talking about the statue cards their only use is to sell for zeni.
Not really sure what I can do about bad matchups, since there's nothing to run but mono-type teams these days.
seriously, AGL Whis, free heal passive.
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I'd been using Fat Buu for his heals, which are the opposite of Whis-only 25% healing but unlimited.
Rose Colored Terror medals are pretty easy. My team can kill him with just two Senzu beans and no continues. I've got 10/21 of them so far.
Turns out the time I spent grinding Miracle Sword of Light medals wasn't useless at all, since MV actually needs them. Got 8/21 of them, but it's a pretty grindy fight for me, especially since my AGL team gets wrecked by second phase.
I've got 2/21 Darkness Shrouding the Future medals, but I cannot remember how well I fared. It was probably around the same difficulty for me as RCT?
I've got 2/21 for Blazing Blue Fusion and, uh, that battle was rough. Probably gonna save those ones for last.
I haven't tried the Shadow Dragons of Despair event yet. I fear the worst.