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Indie Games: There Are Only Two Kinds

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
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    uh

    it turns out i'm really terrible at bullet hells

    at this rate it is actually impossible for me to finish undertale

    Try paying for Temmie's colleg. It'll let you buy an armor that makes the game too easy.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
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    which fight are you stuck on? something early?

    i'm not really stuck on anything I'm just dying a lot to enemies in this very first dungeon thing with goatmom

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    I really like Undyne's fight. Also her boss music:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1vLyHQcwRM
    I didn't realize I could run away until I went through her entire attack pattern all the way to the end where she just keeps throwing the exact same thing at you.

    Gundi on
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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    which fight are you stuck on? something early?

    i'm not really stuck on anything I'm just dying a lot to enemies in this very first dungeon thing with goatmom

    ha ha wow, yeah you ARE bad at it

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Walking Simulator
    uh

    it turns out i'm really terrible at bullet hells

    at this rate it is actually impossible for me to finish undertale

    Where are you at?

    I never really found it that hard playing as a pacifist but I would also stock up on health items that let you brute force through fights. Money is never really that hard to come by so don't be too concerned with "wasting" items.
    Have you done the piano puzzle?

    BertezBertez on
    ...but I would say that

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
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    which fight are you stuck on? something early?

    i'm not really stuck on anything I'm just dying a lot to enemies in this very first dungeon thing with goatmom

    ha ha wow, yeah you ARE bad at it

    spacial recognition and quick reflexes are not my strong suits

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
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    Most of the ruins enemies have a space in the square where bullets won't touch you. Try to find that

    ...but I would say that

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Take more than one candy from the dish. No one will knoooooow

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Take more than one candy from the dish. No one will knoooooow
    you evil monster

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    which fight are you stuck on? something early?

    i'm not really stuck on anything I'm just dying a lot to enemies in this very first dungeon thing with goatmom

    ha ha wow, yeah you ARE bad at it

    spacial recognition and quick reflexes are not my strong suits
    Look at my post! Let if fill you with...
    determination! (I actually found the first area harder than the next few that come after it, if only because you really aren't used to playing the game.)

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Also I would suggest not fully committing to not being a pacifist because uh...
    uh...
    if you do you're committing yourself to having a bad time.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Walking Simulator
    Oh make absolutely no mistake I will not even be injuring a single individual in this game unless I am utterly required to do so to avoid killing anyone.

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Yeah pacifist is hard mode, so that would explain it. Playing it no kill on your first time through is gonna be rough, but not impossible.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Well then this won't be a spoiler for you but:
    If you commit to killing everyone you meet you are subjected to an insane, trolley, unbelievably difficult boss to punish you for behaving poorly. And seriously he is no joke he's as bullet hell as bullet hell gets.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
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    Just murder everything

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
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    Oh make absolutely no mistake I will not even be injuring a single individual in this game unless I am utterly required to do so to avoid killing anyone.

    Yeah, this is what I did, too

    If you get REALLY stuck simply 'cuz of your skill level, I can tell you how to use CheatEngine to lock your HP.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Walking Simulator
    Monsters are people too!

    Well, not really

    But you get the idea!

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Darmak wrote: »
    Just murder everything
    Don't murder everything the game eventually gets way harder that way.

    Gundi on
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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
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    Gundi wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Just murder everything
    Don't murder everything the game eventually gets way harder that way.

    Murder no-one.

    Because it might make a skeleton unhappy.

    You could even say...

    he'd have a bone to pick with you

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
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    Gundi wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Just murder everything
    Don't murder everything the game eventually gets way harder that way.

    Murder the game too

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    BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
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    Kill some people

    Don't kill some people

    Balance in all things.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
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    Stilts wrote: »
    Oh make absolutely no mistake I will not even be injuring a single individual in this game unless I am utterly required to do so to avoid killing anyone.

    Yeah, this is what I did, too

    If you get REALLY stuck simply 'cuz of your skill level, I can tell you how to use CheatEngine to lock your HP.
    this might get me to play undertale

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Just murder everything
    Don't murder everything the game eventually gets way harder that way.

    Murder no-one.

    Because it might make a skeleton unhappy.

    You could even say...

    he'd have a bone to pick with you
    You'll feel your sins crawling on your back.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
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    Stilts wrote: »
    Oh make absolutely no mistake I will not even be injuring a single individual in this game unless I am utterly required to do so to avoid killing anyone.

    Yeah, this is what I did, too

    If you get REALLY stuck simply 'cuz of your skill level, I can tell you how to use CheatEngine to lock your HP.
    this might get me to play undertale

    Saves are super easy to modify in Undertale apparently, so you can give yourself infinite money and such too.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
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    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
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    I am way more interested in the concept of not hurting anyone than the concept of nonlethally killing them

    And, to go one further, engaging them with active empathy rather than not hurting them by avoiding them

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
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    BlueBlue wrote: »
    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

    I often murder everything in games when given the option. Obvious badmans attacking me, innocent civilians, my own allies, fluffy wildlife, robots, aliens, plants, etc.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Darmak wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

    I often murder everything in games when given the option. Obvious badmans attacking me, innocent civilians, my own allies, fluffy wildlife, robots, aliens, plants, etc.
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    Gundi on
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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    I am way more interested in the concept of not hurting anyone than the concept of nonlethally killing them

    And, to go one further, engaging them with active empathy rather than not hurting them by avoiding them
    it's interesting to note how little mechanical difference there is between killing people and sparing them, hey

    you are engaging them empathetically, I think. you only have to do it for any particular monster once, and the interface for it is a bit limited - you can basically just go through every ACT option until you solve it. but the solution is generally to do with finding out the monster's emotional needs

    like there's one monster, moldbygg, where the trick is to refuse to hug it, thus respecting its personal boundaries. and there are powered-up versions of the first level's enemies which you beat by reminding them of their humble origins

    but it still feels like you're beating them. like, they still disappear in a cloud of smoke, you're still encouraged to farm them for gold

    so it still feels kind of violent, even though it's very pointedly presenting itself as an alternative to violence

    I feel like it's difficult to subvert RPG mechanics without constantly returning back to, and even affirming, them. like if you're trying to define yourself by what you're not you end up just kind of legitimizing the thing you're defining yourself against

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    If you meet God while playing Undertale, kill him

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    CromartyCromarty Danielle Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

    I often murder everything in games when given the option. Obvious badmans attacking me, innocent civilians, my own allies, fluffy wildlife, robots, aliens, plants, etc.
    Perhaps you would enjoy Kagero, a game on PS1 about setting traps in your castle to murder hapless visitors, and later, visitors that have enough sense to arm themselves, but not enough to refrain from leaping into your jaws.

    It is the only game I've played where being the villain is the more rewarding and satisfying choice.
    There are more games in the series (Deception), but I keep forgetting about them and then not playing them, so I couldn't tell you whether they're any good.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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    the deception series took a decidedly more goofy turn at some point

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »

    half life 3 confirmed?

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
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    Half Life :D confirmed

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
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    Cromarty wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

    I often murder everything in games when given the option. Obvious badmans attacking me, innocent civilians, my own allies, fluffy wildlife, robots, aliens, plants, etc.
    Perhaps you would enjoy Kagero, a game on PS1 about setting traps in your castle to murder hapless visitors, and later, visitors that have enough sense to arm themselves, but not enough to refrain from leaping into your jaws.

    It is the only game I've played where being the villain is the more rewarding and satisfying choice.
    There are more games in the series (Deception), but I keep forgetting about them and then not playing them, so I couldn't tell you whether they're any good.

    I'd heard about the Deception series but I never got around to playing any of them

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
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    That moment when you just barely get your 3 low health ranged classes clear of getting flanked in massive chalice , and you go to Smoke Bomb them to get them fully clear....

    And you throw an explosive vial at them instead by accident and murder them all :bigfrown:

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
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    Ms Dapper wrote: »
    Half Life :D confirmed

    Well, they're skipping directly over to Half Life 8-), but there might be a comic to fill in the gap.

    chiasaur11 on
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    Medium DaveMedium Dave Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Cromarty wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    You don't have to kill everyone, just anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with you

    I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually

    I often murder everything in games when given the option. Obvious badmans attacking me, innocent civilians, my own allies, fluffy wildlife, robots, aliens, plants, etc.
    Perhaps you would enjoy Kagero, a game on PS1 about setting traps in your castle to murder hapless visitors, and later, visitors that have enough sense to arm themselves, but not enough to refrain from leaping into your jaws.

    It is the only game I've played where being the villain is the more rewarding and satisfying choice.
    There are more games in the series (Deception), but I keep forgetting about them and then not playing them, so I couldn't tell you whether they're any good.

    I'd heard about the Deception series but I never got around to playing any of them

    Deception is neat and the 4th one is on PS4 and it remains neat.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
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    Yes hello all Deception games are great

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