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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    I had to use the manual download to get the upgrade. The media creation tool link.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    I almost want to not upgrade until it's completely unfeasible to be on 7 out of principle over freemium Solitaire.

    Because what the actual fuck.
    You do realize this happened in windows 8.0 right?

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    3clipse wrote: »
    I almost want to not upgrade until it's completely unfeasible to be on 7 out of principle over freemium Solitaire.

    Because what the actual fuck.
    You do realize this happened in windows 8.0 right?

    I had no idea! I never touched 8 because I saw the UI once and blood shot out of my pores.

    That kinda makes it worse. Now it's continual freemium Solitaire. Good christ.

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  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    And what I'm telling you is that all of that data has been shared and stored since the 1970s, its just that now you actually know about it.

    Windows Vista secretly seeded updates in the background to other users? Windows XP had a license clause that allowed them to remotely disable software on your machine?

    All this stuff that people are telling others to turn off in Windows setup was on by default in all previous Windows versions, and we didn't know about it?

    Come on.

    I can't wait until viruses and malware start using these mechanisms to cause havoc.

    Buttcleft
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I had to use the manual download to get the upgrade. The media creation tool link.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    Thanks! I'll give this a shot on Friday (due to a looming work deadline, upgrading to 10 will have to be put on hold).

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I really do like hitting the windows key and typing my program, though of course you can do that with apps in older versions and such.

    My friend was telling me about this as a selling point for Windows 8 and I showed him that you can do it in 7 as well. It doesn't look the same as in the new UI but it functions the same way. Hit win key, type the first few letters of notepad or whatever, hit enter. I want to say it was in Vista too but I don't have as much experience there. Still it's been in Windows for 6-7 years here. Pretty nice feature.

    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Right now, I've only got one concern with Windows 10:

    I wish I could find out why the reservation for my primary desktop hasn't popped yet (or, at least have an estimated reservation fulfillment date). Primary has been reserved about a day after the "Get Windows 10" button showed up...but my guest desktop got upgraded yesterday after being reserved for a hair over two weeks (and my failing laptop also got the upgrade option three weeks ago).

    Is your main computer a normal consumer Win 7 installation? If you stole a volume license key from work or something, you might not be eligible. Some key types don't get it.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    yeah, start menu search was added in vista. they've been improving the algorithms in each subsequent version of windows (and extending it to be able to search more and more things), but the basic functionality is there even in RTM vista

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Right now, I've only got one concern with Windows 10:

    I wish I could find out why the reservation for my primary desktop hasn't popped yet (or, at least have an estimated reservation fulfillment date). Primary has been reserved about a day after the "Get Windows 10" button showed up...but my guest desktop got upgraded yesterday after being reserved for a hair over two weeks (and my failing laptop also got the upgrade option three weeks ago).

    Is your main computer a normal consumer Win 7 installation? If you stole a volume license key from work or something, you might not be eligible. Some key types don't get it.

    I could go into a detailed history of my main desktop's Windows licenses and the situation surrounding each one...but suffice it to say that it is a legitimate key (several times over).

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Right now, I've only got one concern with Windows 10:

    I wish I could find out why the reservation for my primary desktop hasn't popped yet (or, at least have an estimated reservation fulfillment date). Primary has been reserved about a day after the "Get Windows 10" button showed up...but my guest desktop got upgraded yesterday after being reserved for a hair over two weeks (and my failing laptop also got the upgrade option three weeks ago).

    yo, i had this same problem, got online and checked the directory that it all downloads in and it was all there

    the key was checking windows updates update history, where it was showing 1 failure - windows 10 update
    something messed up during the download preventing the whole thing from kicking off, googling the error code gave me the directory to delete to have it start over, worked fine from there

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Right now, I've only got one concern with Windows 10:

    I wish I could find out why the reservation for my primary desktop hasn't popped yet (or, at least have an estimated reservation fulfillment date). Primary has been reserved about a day after the "Get Windows 10" button showed up...but my guest desktop got upgraded yesterday after being reserved for a hair over two weeks (and my failing laptop also got the upgrade option three weeks ago).

    yo, i had this same problem, got online and checked the directory that it all downloads in and it was all there

    the key was checking windows updates update history, where it was showing 1 failure - windows 10 update
    something messed up during the download preventing the whole thing from kicking off, googling the error code gave me the directory to delete to have it start over, worked fine from there

    Mine said it was up to date, but a handful of updates listed as critical had to be installed manually.

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  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular

    The primary goal of Windows 10 is to make sure that if you have any porn on your hard drive, it automatically floats to the top when you use the Picture app, and it becomes impossible to get off of the PIcture app. Also, if a photo is not porn, the Picture app really could care less. If it is porn, the Picture app will ensure that that photo is synced across every device a person owns, and then Windows 10 will take the liberty of making it the desktop pattern and screensaver.

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  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Moved to the Tech Tavern

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    And what I'm telling you is that all of that data has been shared and stored since the 1970s, its just that now you actually know about it.

    Windows Vista secretly seeded updates in the background to other users? Windows XP had a license clause that allowed them to remotely disable software on your machine?

    All this stuff that people are telling others to turn off in Windows setup was on by default in all previous Windows versions, and we didn't know about it?

    Come on.

    How on Earth is it secret when it says exactly what its doing and gives you free access to turn the functionality on or off?

    The whole subject is way overblown. It would be one thing if you couldn't turn things off unless you specified during installation, or had to do some crazy registry editing to disable functions. But its literally right there. Hell, the improved search function lets you take it down to two steps instead of three if you really want to. This isn't exactly NSA level stuff, here.

    Raynaga on
  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Last I checked (Maybe pressure forced them to change already?)( all the privacy invading big brother Orwellian shit was opt out, not opt in, and the options to disable (or even hint at their existence) buried deep. Also it does suck up bandwidth because it basically uses your PC to seed updates to people who've not yet downloaded, so you get your bandwidth used up instead of microsofts

    all of that is in the options to install.
    as long as you don't blindly accept the default install options you can change everysingle thing you mention

    There needs to be instructions on this as it seems like while some things are options in the install, others are not, and it IS hard to find the settings.

    I am on the cusp of updating, as I have some outside need to therefore I cannot sit and wait. But I am afraid of everything I am hearing. There is even issues that sometimes come up with trying to go back to your old OS. Some people cannot do this successfully (though I hear creating a restore point before you upgrade works).
    what?
    you click on settings
    then you click on privacy
    it defaults to the general tab where you can immediately turn off 4 privacy options and then click "mange my microsoft advertising and other personalization info" and then turn off 2 more things through a browser

    It's like.. 2 clicks and not hidden at all

    Do you really not understand why some people are put off by these things being on by default in the first place?

    It's 2015, its getting tracked anyway. Just take a second to turn it off.

    I don't think I could properly put into words how much I dislike this point of view.

    It's one thing to not like the amount of metadata always being tracked by everything from browsers to smart phones to household appliances. It's another to be complaining when a company is giving you the ability to actually disable these tools. Windows 10 provides the tools to make sure your concerns are allayed, more or less, with about 2 minutes of clicks at most.

    Complaining that they aren't turned on automatically is sorta naive. These companies want that data for product creation and distribution and opt-in offerings with such things lead to only a tiny percentage of your user base caring enough to say ok. Of course Microsoft is going to have them start. That way only the tiny percent of people that actually care if their metadata is tracked will opt out, which probably isn't the user base they are generally designing for anyway.

    In short, it's a non issue. Turn it off and move on.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I had to use the manual download to get the upgrade. The media creation tool link.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    That is easily the best way to do it, make a Windows 10 USB stick to keep around.

    Cabezone on
  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.

    Why can't you play ME on 10?

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

    From what I've been reading (granted, it's a PC Gamer reposting of a translated repost as reposted by RPS ...so it could very well be quite wrong), Win10 shuts down SecuROM and SafeDisc...which will make games that use those DRM schemes unplayable.

    So the only workaround would be to rebuy Mass Effect from Steam or Origin. Bioshock would also need to be rebought...but I'm less inclined to replay Bioshock.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Freaking SecureROM bs.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Last I checked (Maybe pressure forced them to change already?)( all the privacy invading big brother Orwellian shit was opt out, not opt in, and the options to disable (or even hint at their existence) buried deep. Also it does suck up bandwidth because it basically uses your PC to seed updates to people who've not yet downloaded, so you get your bandwidth used up instead of microsofts

    all of that is in the options to install.
    as long as you don't blindly accept the default install options you can change everysingle thing you mention

    There needs to be instructions on this as it seems like while some things are options in the install, others are not, and it IS hard to find the settings.

    I am on the cusp of updating, as I have some outside need to therefore I cannot sit and wait. But I am afraid of everything I am hearing. There is even issues that sometimes come up with trying to go back to your old OS. Some people cannot do this successfully (though I hear creating a restore point before you upgrade works).
    what?
    you click on settings
    then you click on privacy
    it defaults to the general tab where you can immediately turn off 4 privacy options and then click "mange my microsoft advertising and other personalization info" and then turn off 2 more things through a browser

    It's like.. 2 clicks and not hidden at all

    Do you really not understand why some people are put off by these things being on by default in the first place?

    It's 2015, its getting tracked anyway. Just take a second to turn it off.

    I don't think I could properly put into words how much I dislike this point of view.

    It's one thing to not like the amount of metadata always being tracked by everything from browsers to smart phones to household appliances. It's another to be complaining when a company is giving you the ability to actually disable these tools. Windows 10 provides the tools to make sure your concerns are allayed, more or less, with about 2 minutes of clicks at most.

    Complaining that they aren't turned on automatically is sorta naive. These companies want that data for product creation and distribution and opt-in offerings with such things lead to only a tiny percentage of your user base caring enough to say ok. Of course Microsoft is going to have them start. That way only the tiny percent of people that actually care if their metadata is tracked will opt out, which probably isn't the user base they are generally designing for anyway.

    In short, it's a non issue. Turn it off and move on.

    No, it's not a non-issue just because you don't personally care about it.

    Yes, obviously these companies want this information. Why does that somehow make it okay?

    "It's 2015. Privacy is dead, get over it" is a terrible, infuriating stance. It's needlessly defeatist. Again, "everyone is doing it" isn't a good excuse, and definitely isn't a reason to "not worry about it".
    I think it's less that many people don't care, and more that they're really hoping most people don't realize it's happening in the first place.

    Just because you have a bizarre lack of propriety over your personal privacy, doesn't mean this sort of thing is okay, or that most people should just be fine with it.

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  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular

    I honestly don't care much about whether a company knows that I like Star Wars, grand strategy games, SFF, have generally left wing politics, and use Fitbit so long as it's looked at in bulk, rather than looking at me as an individual. I don't like the idea of an Ashley Madisonesque data leak that means that everyone can know everything about me. Basically, I don't mind collection of data, I do mind lack of anonymity in data.

    With Windows 10, it wasn't clear enough to me how my data would be treated, so I opted out of everything except technical reports and crash data feedback. I thought that I'd locked down my settings sufficiently, but I ended up discovering that Windows 10 apps are way, way too eager to try to make extremely visible stuff that I do not at all want to be visible.

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Enc wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Last I checked (Maybe pressure forced them to change already?)( all the privacy invading big brother Orwellian shit was opt out, not opt in, and the options to disable (or even hint at their existence) buried deep. Also it does suck up bandwidth because it basically uses your PC to seed updates to people who've not yet downloaded, so you get your bandwidth used up instead of microsofts

    all of that is in the options to install.
    as long as you don't blindly accept the default install options you can change everysingle thing you mention

    There needs to be instructions on this as it seems like while some things are options in the install, others are not, and it IS hard to find the settings.

    I am on the cusp of updating, as I have some outside need to therefore I cannot sit and wait. But I am afraid of everything I am hearing. There is even issues that sometimes come up with trying to go back to your old OS. Some people cannot do this successfully (though I hear creating a restore point before you upgrade works).
    what?
    you click on settings
    then you click on privacy
    it defaults to the general tab where you can immediately turn off 4 privacy options and then click "mange my microsoft advertising and other personalization info" and then turn off 2 more things through a browser

    It's like.. 2 clicks and not hidden at all

    Do you really not understand why some people are put off by these things being on by default in the first place?

    It's 2015, its getting tracked anyway. Just take a second to turn it off.

    I don't think I could properly put into words how much I dislike this point of view.

    It's one thing to not like the amount of metadata always being tracked by everything from browsers to smart phones to household appliances. It's another to be complaining when a company is giving you the ability to actually disable these tools. Windows 10 provides the tools to make sure your concerns are allayed, more or less, with about 2 minutes of clicks at most.

    Complaining that they aren't turned on automatically is sorta naive. These companies want that data for product creation and distribution and opt-in offerings with such things lead to only a tiny percentage of your user base caring enough to say ok. Of course Microsoft is going to have them start. That way only the tiny percent of people that actually care if their metadata is tracked will opt out, which probably isn't the user base they are generally designing for anyway.

    In short, it's a non issue. Turn it off and move on.

    No, it's not a non-issue just because you don't personally care about it.

    Yes, obviously these companies want this information. Why does that somehow make it okay?

    "It's 2015. Privacy is dead, get over it" is a terrible, infuriating stance. It's needlessly defeatist. Again, "everyone is doing it" isn't a good excuse, and definitely isn't a reason to "not worry about it".
    I think it's less that many people don't care, and more that they're really hoping most people don't realize it's happening in the first place.

    Just because you have a bizarre lack of propriety over your personal privacy, doesn't mean this sort of thing is okay, or that most people should just be fine with it.

    You can turn it off!

    What is it about this that you don't understand?

    Raynaga on
  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    Raynaga wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Last I checked (Maybe pressure forced them to change already?)( all the privacy invading big brother Orwellian shit was opt out, not opt in, and the options to disable (or even hint at their existence) buried deep. Also it does suck up bandwidth because it basically uses your PC to seed updates to people who've not yet downloaded, so you get your bandwidth used up instead of microsofts

    all of that is in the options to install.
    as long as you don't blindly accept the default install options you can change everysingle thing you mention

    There needs to be instructions on this as it seems like while some things are options in the install, others are not, and it IS hard to find the settings.

    I am on the cusp of updating, as I have some outside need to therefore I cannot sit and wait. But I am afraid of everything I am hearing. There is even issues that sometimes come up with trying to go back to your old OS. Some people cannot do this successfully (though I hear creating a restore point before you upgrade works).
    what?
    you click on settings
    then you click on privacy
    it defaults to the general tab where you can immediately turn off 4 privacy options and then click "mange my microsoft advertising and other personalization info" and then turn off 2 more things through a browser

    It's like.. 2 clicks and not hidden at all

    Do you really not understand why some people are put off by these things being on by default in the first place?

    It's 2015, its getting tracked anyway. Just take a second to turn it off.

    I don't think I could properly put into words how much I dislike this point of view.

    It's one thing to not like the amount of metadata always being tracked by everything from browsers to smart phones to household appliances. It's another to be complaining when a company is giving you the ability to actually disable these tools. Windows 10 provides the tools to make sure your concerns are allayed, more or less, with about 2 minutes of clicks at most.

    Complaining that they aren't turned on automatically is sorta naive. These companies want that data for product creation and distribution and opt-in offerings with such things lead to only a tiny percentage of your user base caring enough to say ok. Of course Microsoft is going to have them start. That way only the tiny percent of people that actually care if their metadata is tracked will opt out, which probably isn't the user base they are generally designing for anyway.

    In short, it's a non issue. Turn it off and move on.

    No, it's not a non-issue just because you don't personally care about it.

    Yes, obviously these companies want this information. Why does that somehow make it okay?

    "It's 2015. Privacy is dead, get over it" is a terrible, infuriating stance. It's needlessly defeatist. Again, "everyone is doing it" isn't a good excuse, and definitely isn't a reason to "not worry about it".
    I think it's less that many people don't care, and more that they're really hoping most people don't realize it's happening in the first place.

    Just because you have a bizarre lack of propriety over your personal privacy, doesn't mean this sort of thing is okay, or that most people should just be fine with it.

    You can turn it off!

    What is it about this that you don't understand?

    His point is that it shouldn't be there to need to be turned off, but it's slightly several years late to try and fight that battle.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Last I checked (Maybe pressure forced them to change already?)( all the privacy invading big brother Orwellian shit was opt out, not opt in, and the options to disable (or even hint at their existence) buried deep. Also it does suck up bandwidth because it basically uses your PC to seed updates to people who've not yet downloaded, so you get your bandwidth used up instead of microsofts

    all of that is in the options to install.
    as long as you don't blindly accept the default install options you can change everysingle thing you mention

    There needs to be instructions on this as it seems like while some things are options in the install, others are not, and it IS hard to find the settings.

    I am on the cusp of updating, as I have some outside need to therefore I cannot sit and wait. But I am afraid of everything I am hearing. There is even issues that sometimes come up with trying to go back to your old OS. Some people cannot do this successfully (though I hear creating a restore point before you upgrade works).
    what?
    you click on settings
    then you click on privacy
    it defaults to the general tab where you can immediately turn off 4 privacy options and then click "mange my microsoft advertising and other personalization info" and then turn off 2 more things through a browser

    It's like.. 2 clicks and not hidden at all

    Do you really not understand why some people are put off by these things being on by default in the first place?

    It's 2015, its getting tracked anyway. Just take a second to turn it off.

    I don't think I could properly put into words how much I dislike this point of view.

    It's one thing to not like the amount of metadata always being tracked by everything from browsers to smart phones to household appliances. It's another to be complaining when a company is giving you the ability to actually disable these tools. Windows 10 provides the tools to make sure your concerns are allayed, more or less, with about 2 minutes of clicks at most.

    Complaining that they aren't turned on automatically is sorta naive. These companies want that data for product creation and distribution and opt-in offerings with such things lead to only a tiny percentage of your user base caring enough to say ok. Of course Microsoft is going to have them start. That way only the tiny percent of people that actually care if their metadata is tracked will opt out, which probably isn't the user base they are generally designing for anyway.

    In short, it's a non issue. Turn it off and move on.

    No, it's not a non-issue just because you don't personally care about it.

    Yes, obviously these companies want this information. Why does that somehow make it okay?

    "It's 2015. Privacy is dead, get over it" is a terrible, infuriating stance. It's needlessly defeatist. Again, "everyone is doing it" isn't a good excuse, and definitely isn't a reason to "not worry about it".
    I think it's less that many people don't care, and more that they're really hoping most people don't realize it's happening in the first place.

    Just because you have a bizarre lack of propriety over your personal privacy, doesn't mean this sort of thing is okay, or that most people should just be fine with it.

    I don't have a lack of propriety, which is why I turn those settings off. Problem solved.

    Meanwhile everything else is tracking that data. You can get blue in the face about it, but barring congressional action that isn't going to change and you can't put the genie of data tracking back in the bottle. It's not being defeatist, it's being pragmatic. Windows 10 is a good thing on this regard, because it lets you turn the stuff off rather than it just staying on against your will. If more things emulated it and had the option to disable, things would be better.

    But considering having that option a problem is just a silly perspective to me when it implies that microsoft understood there would be people against it and made an accomodation.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    It doesn't let you turn all the stuff off, though, not in any normal manner. Some of the options can't be set to completely disabled in a normal license, and others still send small amounts of information even if they claim to be disabled.

    The only way to completely opt out of Windows 10 tracking you is to firewall your system's attempts to communicate with Microsoft's servers. Or opt out of Windows 10 entirely.

  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

    From what I've been reading (granted, it's a PC Gamer reposting of a translated repost as reposted by RPS ...so it could very well be quite wrong), Win10 shuts down SecuROM and SafeDisc...which will make games that use those DRM schemes unplayable.

    So the only workaround would be to rebuy Mass Effect from Steam or Origin. Bioshock would also need to be rebought...but I'm less inclined to replay Bioshock.

    Try redeming your cd key on origin, you never know! I've got old command and conquer games on there by doing that, as well as all my mass effects (2+3 were discs, 1 was steam)

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

    From what I've been reading (granted, it's a PC Gamer reposting of a translated repost as reposted by RPS ...so it could very well be quite wrong), Win10 shuts down SecuROM and SafeDisc...which will make games that use those DRM schemes unplayable.

    So the only workaround would be to rebuy Mass Effect from Steam or Origin. Bioshock would also need to be rebought...but I'm less inclined to replay Bioshock.

    Try redeming your cd key on origin, you never know! I've got old command and conquer games on there by doing that, as well as all my mass effects (2+3 were discs, 1 was steam)

    Well I be a monkey's uncle! Thanks for that suggestion! The last time I tried that, EA was only allowing product codes that were from when Mirror's Edge was released and more recent to be redeemed. I guess they've expanded their list of accepted codes.

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Hey cool, glad it sounds like it worked, I thought it would be worth a punt at least. :+1:

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  • baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

    From what I've been reading (granted, it's a PC Gamer reposting of a translated repost as reposted by RPS ...so it could very well be quite wrong), Win10 shuts down SecuROM and SafeDisc...which will make games that use those DRM schemes unplayable.

    So the only workaround would be to rebuy Mass Effect from Steam or Origin. Bioshock would also need to be rebought...but I'm less inclined to replay Bioshock.

    Oh, bother. I've just lost the ability to play Need for Speed: Carbon, haven't I? It never came to Origin, or it may just have been pulled years ago. :(

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Looks like there's a conclusion to my Win10 upgrade story:

    When I came back from a work trip two days ago and saw that the Win10 upgrade hadn't popped yet (the trip took two weeks), I cancelled the upgrade and re-reserved it. Woke up this morning, and I'm getting the "Your upgrade is ready!" message. Come Friday, I'll no longer be able to play my original copy of Mass Effect...but XBone streaming will have to do for making up for that issue.
    i'm sure there's a way to play your original copy of mass effect 1 on windows 10

    From what I've been reading (granted, it's a PC Gamer reposting of a translated repost as reposted by RPS ...so it could very well be quite wrong), Win10 shuts down SecuROM and SafeDisc...which will make games that use those DRM schemes unplayable.

    So the only workaround would be to rebuy Mass Effect from Steam or Origin. Bioshock would also need to be rebought...but I'm less inclined to replay Bioshock.

    Oh, bother. I've just lost the ability to play Need for Speed: Carbon, haven't I? It never came to Origin, or it may just have been pulled years ago. :(

    I actually can't find NFS: Carbon on any list of games covered by SecuROM or Safedisc. So it looks like you might be fine with the disk version.

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  • EchoEcho Moderator mod
    So I've been running the Tech Preview since March, and decided it was time to look at getting a proper license.

    But when I checked the activation in the control panel... it says I have an activated version of Windows 10 Pro. What gives? Will this suddenly stop working on me, or did the TP really upgrade into a full Pro license?

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    So, after spending the weekend with Win10 on a real computer (as opposed to a dying Alienware M11x laptop), I can say that it feels magical streaming Halo: MCC and Forza to my PC. Sure, it stutters a bit when it first starts the connection, but a couple minutes later smooths that right up. So far, I'm thoroughly liking this version of Windows.

    On the flip side, it feels weird having two blue "E"s on my taskbar (one for Edge and one for IE). For the most part, I use Edge for Youtube, and IE for Battlefield/Battlelog and my work e-mail (neither of which will work under Edge).

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    Echo wrote: »
    So I've been running the Tech Preview since March, and decided it was time to look at getting a proper license.

    But when I checked the activation in the control panel... it says I have an activated version of Windows 10 Pro. What gives? Will this suddenly stop working on me, or did the TP really upgrade into a full Pro license?

    If you were using a valid Win7/8/8.1 install before you started using the TP you're good to go. I upgraded from 7 to 10 in this fashion.!

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Windows 10 feels like it's still deep in beta right now, and has a lot of obnoxious behavior especially regarding updates. I find it to be better than 8, despite having unfinished UI all over the place, but I've had two D&D games in a row disrupted by it suddenly deciding to reboot for an update at 4pmish on a Saturday during combat... which is dealt with via my tablet. The update then generally kicks back an error message after it finally finishes. Hopefully having edited settings will help, but historically Windows will eventually update when it damn well wants to unless you have the Enterprise version, so, eh.

    I find Windows 7 to be better than 10 from a usability standpoint at this time.

    The number of features you have to turn off to get it to stop creeping on you is also kind of annoying.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Nevermind

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  • GrebnuGrebnu Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    I just don't understand why all of a sudden everybody is crucifying Microsoft about these tracking things? Google has done that forever, Apple too. Why people are not boycotting those companies? Google reads your emails, after all...

    I will upgrade to Windows 10 as soon as my school year is over and everything is done.

    Win 10 is faster and better than previous versions and it is only going to be better. It has some stability issues but M is working hard to solve those.

    But I had no problems with Vista or any other Windows, so maybe I am just lucky. I've used them all since '95 and no problems.


    EDIT.

    There might be some memory leaking in 10, but on the other hand 10 apparently uses RAM differently so it seems that it is hogging up RAM while it is actually not. Don't remember where I read that. Any Win 10 users had memory problems?

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  • madspookymadspooky San Antonio, TXRegistered User regular
    It's not memory leaking, it's on purpose. There's a service that runs in the background that is constantly caching things to make things faster - the problem is that it eats up any RAM that isn't in use (like SQL). I've seen systems with less than 8GB of RAM have issues with the new start menu due to this but otherwise it shouldn't be an issue.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Grebnu wrote: »
    I just don't understand why all of a sudden everybody is crucifying Microsoft about these tracking things? Google has done that forever, Apple too. Why people are not boycotting those companies? Google reads your emails, after all...

    I've tried completely boycotting Apple over tracking, but it turned out that it didn't change my system purchasing behavior at all so I'm not sure if Apple got the message.

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