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RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
edited April 2007 in Social Entropy++
Sorry kids, it's emo time.

Last night a friend, faced with the decision of "quit drinking or die", chose the latter.

My friend was being forced to attend drug and alcohol classes tomorrow, as he was just released from rehab for the third or forth time. At about 3 am this morning he walked into a local convenience store with a gun, grabbed a case of beer and walked out. The police were called and responded immediately, adn rather than face arrest he shot himself in the head, ending his own life.

One of my closest friends was one of the last people to talk to him. This friend of mine has decided to quit drinking, and got a call from my now deceased friend last night asking him if he wanted to hang out. My buddy said that he was tired and was just going to watch TV, but that my now dead friend was invited to come over as long as he wasn't drinking. To which the dead friend replied, "Oh well. I tried."

He was pronounced dead at around 6:15 this morning at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

I've got mixed feelings. This guy had been severely depressed for pretty much as long as I've known him, and had attempted suicide more than once. This time he succeeded. Part of me knows that this was coming, and is glad that at least now he is feeling nothing, but at the same time, part of me is completely torn about the fact that he chose to die rather than to quit drinking.

So. How the fuck are you doing?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] new member
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  • WallhitterWallhitter Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I wish I could say more, but...man, I'm really sorry to hear that.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    [noparse]D:[/noparse]


    *HUGS*

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    meh

    it happens

    the frequency with which this shit happens, however, is a bit frustrating

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  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    it's fucking hard to quit drinking

    but shit man, sorry

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Oh, holy shit Rank.

    I'm so sorry.


    I...I can't even imagine what your one friend is going through, that's got to be a major mindfuck.

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  • ZephosZephos Climbin in yo ski lifts, snatchin your people up. MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    apparently to quit all's you have to do is smoke your brains out a hole in your head.

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Holy shit Rank... I'm so sorry. :(

    *hug*

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  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Zephos wrote: »
    apparently to quit all's you have to do is smoke your brains out a hole in your head.

    i mean...i've heard of easier ways

    if you're a real alcoholic though i hear you have it for life

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    *hugs* for Rank.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    mrpaku wrote: »
    it's fucking hard to quit drinking

    but shit man, sorry

    it isn't that it is hard to quit drinking

    when you get to that point, it isn't about the liquid in the bottle

    it is about giving up a lifestyle, an escape and a medication for dealing with a world you are not set to deal with otherwise

    he just decided that this was the easier of the two options for him

    which, really, isn't that hard to understand, if you knew the guy

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Bummer man.

    My condolences.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    It's a gripping adiction. And it's horrible that it took that much control of him.

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  • Lustimus_PrimeLustimus_Prime Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    meh

    it happens

    the frequency with which this shit happens, however, is a bit frustrating

    I hear you there. And depression is tricky, no matter how you slice it.

    Really wish I could say more than "sorry" or do something more than type it.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    meh

    it happens

    the frequency with which this shit happens, however, is a bit frustrating

    I hear you there. And depression is tricky, no matter how you slice it.

    Really wish I could say more than "sorry" or do something more than type it.

    not much else to say, really

    like I said

    shit happens

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mrpaku wrote: »
    Zephos wrote: »
    apparently to quit all's you have to do is smoke your brains out a hole in your head.

    i mean...i've heard of easier ways

    if you're a real alcoholic though i hear you have it for life

    Yea preponderance of experts seem to agree that alcoholics are incapable of beating dependence and the only thing they can do is quit drinking completely and never go back.

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  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    my dad came incredibly close to being in this exact situation

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    that sucks dude

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    Butters wrote: »
    mrpaku wrote: »
    Zephos wrote: »
    apparently to quit all's you have to do is smoke your brains out a hole in your head.

    i mean...i've heard of easier ways

    if you're a real alcoholic though i hear you have it for life

    Yea preponderance of experts seem to agree that alcoholics are incapable of beating dependence and the only thing they can do is quit drinking completely and never go back.

    I'm prone to agree

    very rarely does a day go by when I don't consider going back out and getting high again, and it has been over six years since I've done any sort of drug

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Shit, Rank, I am sorry to hear that.

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  • AWIYAWIY Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    It seems like in that situation you would want to pull back real hard to not say something like "oh well, I tried" unless you really wanted to drive the message home.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    Alcoholism is truly amazing.

    Its a constant, life-long, struggle--every day consciously avoiding something that you know will ruin your life, and I don't know how my father does it.

    Hes' done it for 17 goddamn years

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  • Lustimus_PrimeLustimus_Prime Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'm prone to agree

    very rarely does a day go by when I don't consider going back out and getting high again, and it has been over six years since I've done any sort of drug

    Don't take this as "holier than thou" cause it's not.

    It can, also, be a matter of control. Sure, I wouldn't RECCOMEND telling a recovering alcoholic to go have a beer on the weekends, but I know plenty of people who used to drink daily for years who just decided "this isn't what I want" and, after a long dry spell, can now have a social drink.

    But as my dad and grandfather were "addicted" alcoholics, I know it's not something easy to beat.

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  • AWIYAWIY Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Alcoholism is truly amazing.

    Its a constant, life-long, struggle--every day consciously avoiding something that you know will ruin your life, and I don't know how my father does it.

    Hes' done it for 17 goddamn years

    Yeah, unfortunately alcoholism is not the only thing, nor even the only ism, that can be described in this way.

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  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Alcoholism is truly amazing.

    Its a constant, life-long, struggle--every day consciously avoiding something that you know will ruin your life, and I don't know how my father does it.

    Hes' done it for 17 goddamn years

    mine took a seven year break while i was growing up, but was horrendous when i was a kid, two cases a night

    right about when i became a teenager he started again after a concert and kept doing it until a doctor told him he'd die last year from it

    so he realized his whole family was gonna leave him and he was gonna die and somehow he stopped again

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    gun control lol

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    I'm prone to agree

    very rarely does a day go by when I don't consider going back out and getting high again, and it has been over six years since I've done any sort of drug

    Don't take this as "holier than thou" cause it's not.

    It can, also, be a matter of control. Sure, I wouldn't RECCOMEND telling a recovering alcoholic to go have a beer on the weekends, but I know plenty of people who used to drink daily for years who just decided "this isn't what I want" and, after a long dry spell, can now have a social drink.

    But as my dad and grandfather were "addicted" alcoholics, I know it's not something easy to beat.

    I'm not trying to be a dick here

    but those people are not alcoholics

    alcoholism and other addictions are not a matter of "control"

    alcoholism, despite what some people like to say, is a disease, and it doesn't just go away

    for some people, it genuinely does get to the point where death is preferable to a life without drinking

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    bsjezz wrote: »
    gun control lol

    that's the best you got?

    don't be bringing that weak sauce shit into this thread

    go make another joke in the Virginia Tech thread about how the dude liked to drink water so water must be to blame or something

    I'm sure nobody's thought of that yet

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  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    my bitch about it was my dad was 80% of the time a fucking awesome guy to be around while he was drinking, which was often, but that other 20% was horrific

    it kills me that i can't crack a beer and just relax with him sometimes but it's something that is a delicate matter of control for him

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I don''t see alcoholism as a disease

    but still

    Rank

    D:, hope you're doing okay and I love you

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Man, really terrible to hear. Got a family of alcoholics, but it never got to that dire of a point.

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  • ReTardisReTardis Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Man, that's just depressing as hell, and I'm sorry to hear it, Rank

    Also, stories like this scare me somewhat, as I've got an "addictive personality" and a family history of alcoholism, which makes it so I'm always a little worried that I'd end up like your friend if I let myself go that route

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  • NucshNucsh Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    My grandfather was an addictive alcoholic with manic depressive tendancies who was tired of living his life without his wife

    So he jumped off the tallest building in Cincinnati when my dad was a sophomore in college

    My dad drove himself to the borderline for 3 years afterwards, met my mom during it all, and she gave him the ultimatum: alcohol or me.

    He's been sober ever since. Hasn't touched it under any circumstance.

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I sometimes feel the same way about SE++ addiction.

    Sometimes, will power isn't enough.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Alcoholism is a disease? I guess I better not drink after you, I might catch the alcoholism.

    Is it spread through bodily fluids or air?

    Also D: on the thread topic. Sorry man.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    Raneados wrote: »
    I don''t see alcoholism as a disease

    but still

    Rank

    D:, hope you're doing okay and I love you

    doesn't matter if you see it as a disease or not, duder

    doesn't change the fact that that is what it is

    blame the drinker, blame the alcohol, blame genetics, whatever

    but straight up that shit ain't pretty, no matter how ya look at it

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    had a few drunken suicide scares with my mom myself

    knives, threats of police interference, crying on my shoulder 5 minutes later

    etc etcd

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  • AWIYAWIY Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Raneados wrote: »
    I don''t see alcoholism as a disease

    but still

    Rank

    D:, hope you're doing okay and I love you

    I mean, a significant subsection of individuals don't classify mental disorders as diseases.

    Anyone who can stand up and tell you with 100% certainty that these sorts of mental things are entirely based in disease or otherwise is not only misinformed but moreover an idiot and likely hides dead bodies in their closet.

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  • Lustimus_PrimeLustimus_Prime Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'm not trying to be a dick here

    but those people are not alcoholics

    alcoholism and other addictions are not a matter of "control"

    alcoholism, despite what some people like to say, is a disease, and it doesn't just go away

    for some people, it genuinely does get to the point where death is preferable to a life without drinking

    No, I know what you mean, but, sometimes people are labeled as alcoholics when in truth they are using it more as a crutch, not an addiction. I admit, I'm one of the people who used it as a crutch for a two year period when my partner died. I'm thankful I did not become addicted, as it is in my family on both sides.

    For a while though I had been convinced by others I was an alcoholic, but I quit for one simple reason. Someone finally asked me to. Didn't beg, didn't plead, it wasn't some sappy Lifetime moment, but a simple "Would you try to stop drinking for me? I'd hate to see you end up in rehab."

    And I KNOW others can't do that if it is a true addiction, but sometimes, it gets confused by people who don't have any experience on it more than TV. And even then....

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2007
    Alcoholism is a disease? I guess I better not drink after you, I might catch the alcoholism.

    Is it spread through bodily fluids or air?

    adurrrrrrr

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