Sorry kids, it's emo time.
Last night a friend, faced with the decision of "quit drinking or die", chose the latter.
My friend was being forced to attend drug and alcohol classes tomorrow, as he was just released from rehab for the third or forth time. At about 3 am this morning he walked into a local convenience store with a gun, grabbed a case of beer and walked out. The police were called and responded immediately, adn rather than face arrest he shot himself in the head, ending his own life.
One of my closest friends was one of the last people to talk to him. This friend of mine has decided to quit drinking, and got a call from my now deceased friend last night asking him if he wanted to hang out. My buddy said that he was tired and was just going to watch TV, but that my now dead friend was invited to come over as long as he wasn't drinking. To which the dead friend replied, "Oh well. I tried."
He was pronounced dead at around 6:15 this morning at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.
I've got mixed feelings. This guy had been severely depressed for pretty much as long as I've known him, and had attempted suicide more than once. This time he succeeded. Part of me knows that this was coming, and is glad that at least now he is feeling nothing, but at the same time, part of me is completely torn about the fact that he chose to die rather than to quit drinking.
So. How the fuck are you doing?
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*HUGS*
it happens
the frequency with which this shit happens, however, is a bit frustrating
but shit man, sorry
I'm so sorry.
I...I can't even imagine what your one friend is going through, that's got to be a major mindfuck.
*hug*
i mean...i've heard of easier ways
if you're a real alcoholic though i hear you have it for life
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it isn't that it is hard to quit drinking
when you get to that point, it isn't about the liquid in the bottle
it is about giving up a lifestyle, an escape and a medication for dealing with a world you are not set to deal with otherwise
he just decided that this was the easier of the two options for him
which, really, isn't that hard to understand, if you knew the guy
My condolences.
I hear you there. And depression is tricky, no matter how you slice it.
Really wish I could say more than "sorry" or do something more than type it.
not much else to say, really
like I said
shit happens
Yea preponderance of experts seem to agree that alcoholics are incapable of beating dependence and the only thing they can do is quit drinking completely and never go back.
I'm prone to agree
very rarely does a day go by when I don't consider going back out and getting high again, and it has been over six years since I've done any sort of drug
Its a constant, life-long, struggle--every day consciously avoiding something that you know will ruin your life, and I don't know how my father does it.
Hes' done it for 17 goddamn years
Don't take this as "holier than thou" cause it's not.
It can, also, be a matter of control. Sure, I wouldn't RECCOMEND telling a recovering alcoholic to go have a beer on the weekends, but I know plenty of people who used to drink daily for years who just decided "this isn't what I want" and, after a long dry spell, can now have a social drink.
But as my dad and grandfather were "addicted" alcoholics, I know it's not something easy to beat.
Yeah, unfortunately alcoholism is not the only thing, nor even the only ism, that can be described in this way.
mine took a seven year break while i was growing up, but was horrendous when i was a kid, two cases a night
right about when i became a teenager he started again after a concert and kept doing it until a doctor told him he'd die last year from it
so he realized his whole family was gonna leave him and he was gonna die and somehow he stopped again
I'm not trying to be a dick here
but those people are not alcoholics
alcoholism and other addictions are not a matter of "control"
alcoholism, despite what some people like to say, is a disease, and it doesn't just go away
for some people, it genuinely does get to the point where death is preferable to a life without drinking
that's the best you got?
don't be bringing that weak sauce shit into this thread
go make another joke in the Virginia Tech thread about how the dude liked to drink water so water must be to blame or something
I'm sure nobody's thought of that yet
it kills me that i can't crack a beer and just relax with him sometimes but it's something that is a delicate matter of control for him
but still
Rank
, hope you're doing okay and I love you
Also, stories like this scare me somewhat, as I've got an "addictive personality" and a family history of alcoholism, which makes it so I'm always a little worried that I'd end up like your friend if I let myself go that route
So he jumped off the tallest building in Cincinnati when my dad was a sophomore in college
My dad drove himself to the borderline for 3 years afterwards, met my mom during it all, and she gave him the ultimatum: alcohol or me.
He's been sober ever since. Hasn't touched it under any circumstance.
Sometimes, will power isn't enough.
Is it spread through bodily fluids or air?
Also on the thread topic. Sorry man.
doesn't matter if you see it as a disease or not, duder
doesn't change the fact that that is what it is
blame the drinker, blame the alcohol, blame genetics, whatever
but straight up that shit ain't pretty, no matter how ya look at it
knives, threats of police interference, crying on my shoulder 5 minutes later
etc etcd
I mean, a significant subsection of individuals don't classify mental disorders as diseases.
Anyone who can stand up and tell you with 100% certainty that these sorts of mental things are entirely based in disease or otherwise is not only misinformed but moreover an idiot and likely hides dead bodies in their closet.
No, I know what you mean, but, sometimes people are labeled as alcoholics when in truth they are using it more as a crutch, not an addiction. I admit, I'm one of the people who used it as a crutch for a two year period when my partner died. I'm thankful I did not become addicted, as it is in my family on both sides.
For a while though I had been convinced by others I was an alcoholic, but I quit for one simple reason. Someone finally asked me to. Didn't beg, didn't plead, it wasn't some sappy Lifetime moment, but a simple "Would you try to stop drinking for me? I'd hate to see you end up in rehab."
And I KNOW others can't do that if it is a true addiction, but sometimes, it gets confused by people who don't have any experience on it more than TV. And even then....
adurrrrrrr