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  • caligynefobcaligynefob DKRegistered User regular
    I feel the lore of Destiny falls into the same category as WH40K - doesn't make a whole lot of sense, is often just a series of mini stories and leaves a lot to the imagination. I like it though as peoples interpretation can be a lot cooler than anything Bungie themselves could come up with and at the same time I honestly get why it isn't represented more in the actual game (though grimoire cards in-game would be nice).

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  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    I feel the lore of Destiny falls into the same category as WH40K - doesn't make a whole lot of sense, is often just a series of mini stories and leaves a lot to the imagination. I like it though as peoples interpretation can be a lot cooler than anything Bungie themselves could come up with and at the same time I honestly get why it isn't represented more in the actual game (though grimoire cards in-game would be nice).

    The way Game Informer set up the "timeline" to explain Year One actually makes a bit more sense than how you discover some of the stuff in-game or via the grimoire. I'm curious to see the kind of lore / information we can get from scanning things in Taken King.

    I honestly don't really care about getting more Lore into the Hive or Oryx himself. I'm really hoping we get Rasputin more involved in the story and perhaps some depth on the Cabal. Hopefully the Awoken plays a bit more of an involved role and we can start understanding why the Queen is trying to be friendly with the Nine. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing one of the Nine get turned into a Taken or something nifty in a strike. Just to gain some perspective on all the players in Destiny's universe.

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  • caligynefobcaligynefob DKRegistered User regular
    Celian wrote: »
    I feel the lore of Destiny falls into the same category as WH40K - doesn't make a whole lot of sense, is often just a series of mini stories and leaves a lot to the imagination. I like it though as peoples interpretation can be a lot cooler than anything Bungie themselves could come up with and at the same time I honestly get why it isn't represented more in the actual game (though grimoire cards in-game would be nice).

    The way Game Informer set up the "timeline" to explain Year One actually makes a bit more sense than how you discover some of the stuff in-game or via the grimoire. I'm curious to see the kind of lore / information we can get from scanning things in Taken King.

    I honestly don't really care about getting more Lore into the Hive or Oryx himself. I'm really hoping we get Rasputin more involved in the story and perhaps some depth on the Cabal. Hopefully the Awoken plays a bit more of an involved role and we can start understanding why the Queen is trying to be friendly with the Nine. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing one of the Nine get turned into a Taken or something nifty in a strike. Just to gain some perspective on all the players in Destiny's universe.

    Yeah, the GI article was very nice for providing an overview, a lot is still open for interpretation or left in the dark though.

    Agreed on Rasputin, it's honestly one of the most interesting aspects of Destiny.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    The fact that Rasputin in mentioned in like 3 missions and 1 (optional) strike but is never ever mentioned again is just so weird. Though it just plays into the way the entire narrative is sorta disjointed and has no sense of time or progression.

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  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    The fact that Rasputin in mentioned in like 3 missions and 1 (optional) strike but is never ever mentioned again is just so weird. Though it just plays into the way the entire narrative is sorta disjointed and has no sense of time or progression.

    I agree and I think that is mostly due to how story missions worked independently of one another and were meant to be short, repeatable things. Hopefully the whole Quest concept will allow them to still have story missions to make them flow into one another better so that you get a good narrative the first time through. This will still allow them to exist as short dailies you do for marks and mats.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    The fact that Rasputin in mentioned in like 3 missions and 1 (optional) strike but is never ever mentioned again is just so weird. Though it just plays into the way the entire narrative is sorta disjointed and has no sense of time or progression.
    Time shenaniganry!

    Honestly, though
    I expect/hope that the Vex timetravel stuff is about alternate reality generation. Mostly because I really want a mission where we meet Kabr and help put his raid team back together across multiple vex-fucked timelines.

    Also because Rasputin is clearly manipulating the timestream to generate a positive outcome for humanity, possibly at the expense of the traveler.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    See to me it makes sense. The big story is the darkness, the traveler and Rasputin. They have to soreadcthatvout for 10 years.

    Rasputin being more of a legend that we keep hearing about / running across is a good way to build him up for a few years until they want to kick the main story into focus.

    To me destiny is showing us a series of side stories at this point. Skolas, crota, oryx, the blsck garden. None of it is the main story, just side stories impacted by the main one. All the while its dropping hints about the main story.

    I think this is what we will get for a another year or so. Then destiny 1 will end with a major event about the major players. Repeat every 3 years.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Also I love the concept that the Fallen were surprised that the "Traveler" kept on traveling.

    Of course, humanity definitely seem to view it as a permanent ally right now as well....

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  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    Also I love the concept that the Fallen were surprised that the "Traveler" kept on traveling.

    Of course, humanity definitely seem to view it as a permanent ally right now as well....

    I agree, what makes matters worse for the Fallen is that the Traveler didn't stay behind to help them survive the Whirlwind (their version of the collapse), whereas he stayed and fight for humanity. He still lost, but he stayed. Seeing things in this light makes me less inclined to think badly of him. I had a low opinion for the Traveler, but I found this interesting.

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    So Xur is supposedly showing off some of the new goods tomorrow.

    LINK to Destiny twitter

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate

  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    jefe414 wrote: »
    So Xur is supposedly coming to the tower to be showing off some of the new goods tomorrow.

    No, he's coming to instagram. It sounds like a social media push to get folks to follow their instagram for some reason. Who follows instagram anyways?

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    Yeah I read the actual twitter and fixed my message

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

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  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    OptimusZed please elaborate

    Well I spoilered it, but honestly this is vanilla Destiny stuff. This is like spoiling Star Wars.
    The whole point of the Vex is that they travel through time and space. The Black Garden is a focal point from the past and the future where a shard of the Darkness is. It's why your Ghost doesn't know where/when you are when you enter it. It's also why you get sent back to the present after you defeat the boss. The Vault of Glass is a stronghold where Atheon attempts to write the Vex into the very fabric of time. The Gorgon's ability basically wipes you out of existence, it erases you from history.

    The Exo Stranger (no time to explain exo) is believed to be from the future.

    That's most of the time travel stuff I can sum up off the top of my head.

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  • squall99xsquall99x Registered User regular
    Celian wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    OptimusZed please elaborate

    The whole point of the Vex is that they travel through time and space. The Black Garden is a focal point from the past and the future where a shard of the Darkness is. It's why your Ghost doesn't know where/when you are when you enter it. It's also why you get sent back to the present after you defeat the boss. The Vault of Glass is a stronghold where Atheon attempts to write the Vex into the very fabric of time. The Gorgon's ability basically wipes you out of existence, it erases you from history.

    The Exo Stranger (no time to explain exo) is believed to be from the future.

    That's most of the time travel stuff I can sum up off the top of my head.

    It's pretty much confirmed she is from the future or at least had contact with it. Read the flavor text on her rifle you get for some confirmation of that. Plus there are numerous things Ghost says along Vex missions that are pretty heavy handed in saying "hey, time travel!"

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  • squall99xsquall99x Registered User regular
    jefe414 wrote: »
    Yeah I read the actual twitter and fixed my message

    The Xur thing is today by the way. The twitter stuff was from yesterday.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I forgot about the Stranger, somehow.

    Maybe she doesn't exist in this timeline.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

    Do not remember the bolded at all. The first part of the sentence can be a reference to the Eye of the Gate Lord mission but I don't remember any reference to the other having jack to do with time.

    We in fact see one person get release and he was in a physical containment pod. Like some sort of biological stasis rather than ontological non-existence.

    Edit: Point being the Time stuff seemed directly linked to the Vex at this point.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

    Do not remember the bolded at all. The first part of the sentence can be a reference to the Eye of the Gate Lord mission but I don't remember any reference to the other having jack to do with time.

    We in fact see one person get release and he was in a physical containment pod. Like some sort of biological stasis rather than ontological non-existence.

    Edit: Point being the Time stuff seemed directly linked to the Vex at this point.
    You're right, I'm misremembering that. It's that the Black Garden is locked out of time.

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    Very fun VoG run tonight! Had two people who had never done it before and we amazingly got through the maze and the jumping puzzle with incredibly low attempts. Not sure what realmasume's forum name is, but the lucky bastard got a Timepiece! My friend managed to not get a single gun out of that run. What a surprise, no weapons at all out of Crota runs for him, and none out of this. He did get the legs and the helm, but considering he's already 32, that's not exactly exciting for him. Whatever, we'll have to give it another try this week. Sorry for all the fuckups on the relic against the Templar! Now that I have my rhythm back with him, shouldn't be tough to take him out quickly next time.

    Was definitely a good time. That was my first time on hard mode in the Vault. Still think there are parts of the VoG that are too dark. Maybe I need to turn up the brightness on my TV or something.

    Anyhow, now just to try to get some people to drag my trough Crota and Skolas and I can get the cool triumph thing. We'll see though. I'm not sure what I should be focusing on to try to up my light level at this point. I feel like I may be stuck at 32.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

    Do not remember the bolded at all. The first part of the sentence can be a reference to the Eye of the Gate Lord mission but I don't remember any reference to the other having jack to do with time.

    We in fact see one person get release and he was in a physical containment pod. Like some sort of biological stasis rather than ontological non-existence.

    Edit: Point being the Time stuff seemed directly linked to the Vex at this point.
    You're right, I'm misremembering that. It's that the Black Garden is locked out of time.

    I mostly remember it because the writing of Ghost in that section annoys the shit out of me. Like, "locked out of time" is pretty fucking self evident little slice of giant superpowered resurrection bot. Like rebuilding me from constituent atoms is a snap but that concept baffles it?

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    squall99x wrote: »
    jefe414 wrote: »
    Yeah I read the actual twitter and fixed my message

    The Xur thing is today by the way. The twitter stuff was from yesterday.

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  • CelianCelian Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

    Do not remember the bolded at all. The first part of the sentence can be a reference to the Eye of the Gate Lord mission but I don't remember any reference to the other having jack to do with time.

    We in fact see one person get release and he was in a physical containment pod. Like some sort of biological stasis rather than ontological non-existence.

    Edit: Point being the Time stuff seemed directly linked to the Vex at this point.
    You're right, I'm misremembering that. It's that the Black Garden is locked out of time.

    I mostly remember it because the writing of Ghost in that section annoys the shit out of me. Like, "locked out of time" is pretty fucking self evident little slice of giant superpowered resurrection bot. Like rebuilding me from constituent atoms is a snap but that concept baffles it?

    That may point to the fact that the Traveler, while all powerful, does not have the power of time travel. It makes the Vex a formidable opponent since they can do something the Traveler does not comprehend?

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not sure I feel about

    Lore and speculation maybe spoilers
    Rasputin being that big of a deal. I know Bungie loves AI becoming gods, but that's a bit much.

    I don't really know how I feel about time travel either


    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    @OptimusZed please elaborate
    Year 1 is littered with time travel shenanigans.
    The Vex have "time gates" and the prison of elders locks it's captives "out of time".

    In the HoW questline, Skolas is using vex tech to call Wolves from across the timestream to populate his house in this timeline.

    Kabr's whole VoG raid crew was time-evaporated out of existence.

    In VoG we get precursor and descendant vex co-existing in the same encounter.

    Future War Cult sends cultists into the future to try and gain knowledge that will let them defeat the darkness via the classic sapient foreknowledge effect.

    That's just off the top of my head. There's more in the grimoire. A lot more.

    Do not remember the bolded at all. The first part of the sentence can be a reference to the Eye of the Gate Lord mission but I don't remember any reference to the other having jack to do with time.

    We in fact see one person get release and he was in a physical containment pod. Like some sort of biological stasis rather than ontological non-existence.

    Edit: Point being the Time stuff seemed directly linked to the Vex at this point.
    You're right, I'm misremembering that. It's that the Black Garden is locked out of time.

    I mostly remember it because the writing of Ghost in that section annoys the shit out of me. Like, "locked out of time" is pretty fucking self evident little slice of giant superpowered resurrection bot. Like rebuilding me from constituent atoms is a snap but that concept baffles it?

    That may point to the fact that the Traveler, while all powerful, does not have the power of time travel. It makes the Vex a formidable opponent since they can do something the Traveler does not comprehend?

    Well given that it stopped them on Venus I don't think that's the case but my objection isn't that he doesn't know all about it. Just that this simple concept is enough to baffle Ghost. Like, if the concept shows up on a cartoon show maybe we shouldn't write the super bot to be utterly baffled by it? He somehow doubts his Traveler database thing rather than accept the concept.

    I could totally see the Guardian saying that line but the Guardian has like two fucking lines in the game which is another of those weird "development" things.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Calling it now.
    The Vex are a ploy by the Traveler to create a bunch of alternate realities for some purpose. If sci-fi/comics are any indication, it's probably reproduction.

    Alternatively, it's Rasputin. I still think he built the Vex and is using them to try and generate a timeline suitable to his purposes. Probably one in which the Traveler is destroyed fighting the Darkness, leaving humanity alone in the process.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I just went to Destiny's instagram. No new stuff yet, but I need one of those Gjallarhorn t-shirt launchers.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. Now With Ninjas!

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Calling it now.
    The Vex are a ploy by the Traveler to create a bunch of alternate realities for some purpose. If sci-fi/comics are any indication, it's probably reproduction.

    Alternatively, it's Rasputin. I still think he built the Vex and is using them to try and generate a timeline suitable to his purposes. Probably one in which the Traveler is destroyed fighting the Darkness, leaving humanity alone in the process.

    My favorite theory is
    Rasputin is the Vex. He spends millennia fighting enemies of Earth, growing and accumulating knowledge and tech, but can never actually beat the Vex, and at the end of his "timeline", he has adopted the forms of the Vex in order to fight them, spreading himself across millions of interconnected robotic platforms, and when he finally breaks the time barrier and learns to time travel himself, along with how to network the thoughts of all his platforms across time, he realizes that he is the Vex; or rather, he becomes the Vex, and has been fighting a future version of himself.

    Now that he knows this, he has to continue to fight his younger self to keep causality preserved, but is also experimenting with ways to control and manipulate the timestream itself, because then causality would no longer be a factor, and any enemy could be defeated simply by never allowing them to have existed at all. Complete and total universal safety through complete and total spacetime control. Rasputin's ultimate function achieved.

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  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Calling it now.
    The Vex are a ploy by the Traveler to create a bunch of alternate realities for some purpose. If sci-fi/comics are any indication, it's probably reproduction.

    Alternatively, it's Rasputin. I still think he built the Vex and is using them to try and generate a timeline suitable to his purposes. Probably one in which the Traveler is destroyed fighting the Darkness, leaving humanity alone in the process.

    Interesting thought about that.
    The Vex Mythoclast:
    The Mythoclast is a Vex instrument from some far-flung corner of time and space, mysteriously fit for human hands. Its origins, mechanism of action, and ultimate purpose remain unknown. Perhaps it will reveal itself to you, in time...

    Why does Atheon have it? For what reason would a Vex "god" have a weapon meant to destroy a Vex "god", fashioned for humans no less? If Rasputin did create the Vex, it's possible that he (at some point in time) realizes it may have been a mistake and creates the Mythoclast, but I'm not sure where that story thread would go from there. Again, why does Atheon have it? Kind of maddening, but it's really interesting to me.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Fawst wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Calling it now.
    The Vex are a ploy by the Traveler to create a bunch of alternate realities for some purpose. If sci-fi/comics are any indication, it's probably reproduction.

    Alternatively, it's Rasputin. I still think he built the Vex and is using them to try and generate a timeline suitable to his purposes. Probably one in which the Traveler is destroyed fighting the Darkness, leaving humanity alone in the process.

    Interesting thought about that.
    The Vex Mythoclast:
    The Mythoclast is a Vex instrument from some far-flung corner of time and space, mysteriously fit for human hands. Its origins, mechanism of action, and ultimate purpose remain unknown. Perhaps it will reveal itself to you, in time...

    Why does Atheon have it? For what reason would a Vex "god" have a weapon meant to destroy a Vex "god", fashioned for humans no less? If Rasputin did create the Vex, it's possible that he (at some point in time) realizes it may have been a mistake and creates the Mythoclast, but I'm not sure where that story thread would go from there. Again, why does Atheon have it? Kind of maddening, but it's really interesting to me.

    As with all time travel the answer is easy: Because he already did and therefore has to in the future.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    Celian wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The timetravel cat is kind of out of the bag at this point, though.

    But is this point now, a year ago or in two years? Time travel man... it's a mess.

    Everything that has happened will happen again. Time is a flat circle, man.

    Hermano
  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Very fun VoG run tonight! Had two people who had never done it before and we amazingly got through the maze and the jumping puzzle with incredibly low attempts. Not sure what realmasume's forum name is, but the lucky bastard got a Timepiece! My friend managed to not get a single gun out of that run. What a surprise, no weapons at all out of Crota runs for him, and none out of this. He did get the legs and the helm, but considering he's already 32, that's not exactly exciting for him. Whatever, we'll have to give it another try this week. Sorry for all the fuckups on the relic against the Templar! Now that I have my rhythm back with him, shouldn't be tough to take him out quickly next time.

    Was definitely a good time. That was my first time on hard mode in the Vault. Still think there are parts of the VoG that are too dark. Maybe I need to turn up the brightness on my TV or something.

    Anyhow, now just to try to get some people to drag my trough Crota and Skolas and I can get the cool triumph thing. We'll see though. I'm not sure what I should be focusing on to try to up my light level at this point. I feel like I may be stuck at 32.

    Yeah, I hope I didn't ramble too much in my explanations of things. You pretty much knew what was coming having done Normal before, at least. I'm really impressed that we got by the jumping puzzle as quickly as we did. Also pretty cool that we burned down a Gorgon to save a maze run!

    We'll definitely get a Crota run in. My friend that was with us last night has been "through" the maze (really he's been dead while I solo it) and the bridge (really he's been dead while I solo it), and then as far as the Deathsinger. HM Crota is fun, I'll try to put together a run this week. Obviously you should jump on any chance to take him down, though, so don't wait on me!

  • hlprmnkyhlprmnky Registered User regular
    Or because
    In some of the timelines that come together in the Vault, Vex and humans have some common enemy (Rasputin?), even though in the timeline from which we enter the Vault that seems super unlikely.

    Time, man. It's a hell of a thing.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Very interesting stuff about the Vex, Rasputin and time travel. I took the time travel stuff to be about teleportation, but yeah, there's more to it

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  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Destiny presents the Mjølnerhorn, a new Exotic Rocket Launcher with Wol... Foxpack Rounds that hits really hard, look out for this brand new Exotic!

    Not to be confused with Gjallarhorn, this one is red! ... Slow day at work.

    I wouldnt mind seeing an exotic sword with special abilities, a quadruple barrelled Rocket Launcher with instantaneous firing or a chestpiece for Sunsinger that makes those flame wings.

    Sirialis on
  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Very fun VoG run tonight! Had two people who had never done it before and we amazingly got through the maze and the jumping puzzle with incredibly low attempts. Not sure what realmasume's forum name is, but the lucky bastard got a Timepiece! My friend managed to not get a single gun out of that run. What a surprise, no weapons at all out of Crota runs for him, and none out of this. He did get the legs and the helm, but considering he's already 32, that's not exactly exciting for him. Whatever, we'll have to give it another try this week. Sorry for all the fuckups on the relic against the Templar! Now that I have my rhythm back with him, shouldn't be tough to take him out quickly next time.

    Was definitely a good time. That was my first time on hard mode in the Vault. Still think there are parts of the VoG that are too dark. Maybe I need to turn up the brightness on my TV or something.

    Anyhow, now just to try to get some people to drag my trough Crota and Skolas and I can get the cool triumph thing. We'll see though. I'm not sure what I should be focusing on to try to up my light level at this point. I feel like I may be stuck at 32.

    @Bolthorn this could be a pretty good week to hit 34. Iron Banner if you rep up with them you'll be given the ability to buy a thing to max out one piece of armor at rep rank 3 and 5 with them.
    Running PoE should help as well.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I find it interesting that the mythoclast is good againt the hive.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Part of what I love about the time travel theories is how it plays with the name Destiny.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. Now With Ninjas!

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    my insane theory:
    Rasputin fucked with time to find alternate versions of himself. He has, in essence, assimilated almost all alternate versions of himself into a great being, only different names. He is the traveler. I also feel he's created the 9 as kind of a collective awareness that helps us. I also have a suspicion that at the time of the traveler coming to this world for our Rasputin, they warred and somehow disabled him, or intentionally shut down.

    "Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT."

    hlprmnky
  • AngrySquirrelAngrySquirrel Registered User regular
    As someone with only a blue shotgun is the Wolfborne Oath that Variks has worth spending a weapon core on?

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