All my pharmacies are located in really populated areas, and far away from where I'd be holing up. Sudafed would be okay, but benadryl makes me super drowsy, which would be a super bad idea most of the time.
Yeah, but there's pharmacies located in the sticks too. Those things would be pretty much untouched versus penicillin and insulin.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Honestly, I don't think the zombie apocalypse would even get a good start, assuming that the bite is what infects people and not some air born virus or something we are already infected with, TWD style. Between the American Gun Nuts, especially in the South and Mid West, the gangs in the cities, and how much movies has "trained" us to deal with zombies, I'd say we'd be able to stop the outbreak before it got too far out of hand. Maybe not in time to keep the government alive and well, but it's time for a change anyhow. #KayneWest2020
If I ever got wind of some people trying to take the horde on with tactics they learned from movies I'd be hauling ass in the other direction, especially if they have guns. That "training" is not only dangerous to themselves but everyone around them, particularly when it comes to wielding weaponry.
All my pharmacies are located in really populated areas, and far away from where I'd be holing up. Sudafed would be okay, but benadryl makes me super drowsy, which would be a super bad idea most of the time.
Yeah, but there's pharmacies located in the sticks too. Those things would be pretty much untouched versus penicillin and insulin.
Well not anymore, thanks for tipping everyone off...jeez!
All my pharmacies are located in really populated areas, and far away from where I'd be holing up. Sudafed would be okay, but benadryl makes me super drowsy, which would be a super bad idea most of the time.
Thered be no Sudafed to be found because tweakers would seize the opportunity to steal it all to make meth.
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I never thought I'd be saying this, but in this scenario, the meth-heads are right
All my pharmacies are located in really populated areas, and far away from where I'd be holing up. Sudafed would be okay, but benadryl makes me super drowsy, which would be a super bad idea most of the time.
Thered be no Sudafed to be found because tweakers would seize the opportunity to steal it all to make meth.
I'm not a meth expert but my limited knowledge says that it takes more than ground up sudaphed to make effective methamphetamine.
You'd have to have the meth recipe pretty well memorized, or have it written down somewhere, or be an actual chemist to get it done. And if that's the case, why wouldn't you just head to a university and use their laboratory with all their restricted chemicals to get it done, and if you're gonna do that you may as well go the methylamine route instead of dealing with tons of shitty pseudoephedrine pills.
But regardless: priorities! And getting high wouldn't be high on mine.
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All my pharmacies are located in really populated areas, and far away from where I'd be holing up. Sudafed would be okay, but benadryl makes me super drowsy, which would be a super bad idea most of the time.
Thered be no Sudafed to be found because tweakers would seize the opportunity to steal it all to make meth.
I'm not a meth expert but my limited knowledge says that it takes more than ground up sudaphed to make effective methamphetamine.
It takes some other stuff too, but Sudafed contains pseudoephedrine:
Which bears obvious similarities to methamphetamine:
And can be used as a reagent to synthesize it.
Now why you'd do that instead of stealing all the adderall, I dunno.
Let's see how the week goes to see if it will relate greatly to this thread.
Edit: I am living near this city
They are pretty common in all areas of freshwater (and protozoans in general are EVERYWHERE). They only have a tiny chance of causing disease. It's catastrophic when it happens, of course, but yeah... you are more likely to get flesh-eating bacteria (which are also extremely common) eating you from a cut than you are going to lose your brain to an amoeba. FAR more likely, you are going to get dysentery from amoebas in the water supply. Or even Acanthamoeba keratitis on your eyes (which is extremely rare, and only if you store your contacts in tap water like you aren't supposed to do).
It's also non-communicable between victims in any way, which means that if it causes a zombie outbreak, it's not going to spread, and it's relatively self-contained.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
You'd have to have the meth recipe pretty well memorized, or have it written down somewhere, or be an actual chemist to get it done. And if that's the case, why wouldn't you just head to a university and use their laboratory with all their restricted chemicals to get it done, and if you're gonna do that you may as well go the methylamine route instead of dealing with tons of shitty pseudoephedrine pills.
But regardless: priorities! And getting high wouldn't be high on mine.
Most labs aren't going to have restricted chemicals, and even then they aren't gonna be useful generally. At best you can get purer versions of the reagents you already have, but you'd really need pseudoephedrine as a base. The only real reason you'd want to run to a lab, if you didn't have technical knowledge, would be to scavenge for the actual drugs that some labs use. A meth lab (...you know what I mean) or cocaine lab is certainly not going to be needing what they have, although I don't think they'll tend to have very much. You're probably better off raiding the police station.
You'd have to have the meth recipe pretty well memorized, or have it written down somewhere, or be an actual chemist to get it done. And if that's the case, why wouldn't you just head to a university and use their laboratory with all their restricted chemicals to get it done, and if you're gonna do that you may as well go the methylamine route instead of dealing with tons of shitty pseudoephedrine pills.
But regardless: priorities! And getting high wouldn't be high on mine.
Meth heads can make meth in a Gatorade jug with some batteries and a penny.
You don't even want to imagine what they could do with Sudafed.
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
You'd have to have the meth recipe pretty well memorized, or have it written down somewhere, or be an actual chemist to get it done. And if that's the case, why wouldn't you just head to a university and use their laboratory with all their restricted chemicals to get it done, and if you're gonna do that you may as well go the methylamine route instead of dealing with tons of shitty pseudoephedrine pills.
But regardless: priorities! And getting high wouldn't be high on mine.
Most labs aren't going to have restricted chemicals, and even then they aren't gonna be useful generally. At best you can get purer versions of the reagents you already have, but you'd really need pseudoephedrine as a base. The only real reason you'd want to run to a lab, if you didn't have technical knowledge, would be to scavenge for the actual drugs that some labs use. A meth lab (...you know what I mean) or cocaine lab is certainly not going to be needing what they have, although I don't think they'll tend to have very much. You're probably better off raiding the police station.
I imagine the best assets in those labs would be the equipment; glassware, precision scales (triple beam because lol electricity), etc.
Not that you couldn't make your Jet on a propane burner in a barricaded hotel room, but in this scenario cans of Chef Boyardee are going to be more valuable than wasteland drugs at least for a few years.
Steal the whole lot and sort it out later after getting back to your fire-moat sound-proof compound.
You don't want to steal the whole lot :P
If you do and there's an accident it will probably explode and light the water on fire.
That's what'd happen if someone stole all the reagents from my lab and mixed the wrong two, anyway. Or uncapped the one that turns into a bomb when it dries out.
Steal the whole lot and sort it out later after getting back to your fire-moat sound-proof compound.
You don't want to steal the whole lot :P
If you do and there's an accident it will probably explode and light the water on fire.
That's what'd happen if someone stole all the reagents from my lab and mixed the wrong two, anyway. Or uncapped the one that turns into a bomb when it dries out.
"This is the biggest block of sodium I've ever seen! I'm exhausted from carrying it. Hey, neat, an entire cooler full of water. It would sure be refreshing to dump the entire thing all over myself right now! Here goes..."
Steal the whole lot and sort it out later after getting back to your fire-moat sound-proof compound.
You don't want to steal the whole lot :P
If you do and there's an accident it will probably explode and light the water on fire.
That's what'd happen if someone stole all the reagents from my lab and mixed the wrong two, anyway. Or uncapped the one that turns into a bomb when it dries out.
Exhibit A on why I'll just take my chances with being a zombie during the zombiepocalypse. Shivahn will find a cure for me. Thanks in advance!
re: brain eating amoeba, that's apparently indigenous to some but not all natural water bodies in Australia.
I swear I expect Australia to come out of a Zombie apocalypse better than most countries. "Shrug. This whole place was already trying to kill us."
Australia's got the same environmental aspect that many places do when it comes to zombies. Too hot and dry, they'd desiccate in no time to the point where they wouldn't be mobile anymore.
Like they'd freeze anywhere close to the arctic circle.
Like they'd be crippled anywhere with high terrain differences and craggy ground.
Like how they'd become immobilized in swamps and rot in record time.
In the end there's not all that many areas of the world that are hospitable to zombies. Incidentally though, those are the areas with highest populations too, so basically the apocalypse would be the worst there, whereas people living in the more extreme environments would have a significantly easier time dealing with the zombies. They'd need to put most of the effort in surviving the environment itself, like it's always been. It's both a detriment and a benefit.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Would the Amish be fucked on this?
Pros: Know farming, already live off the grid, lots of skill with metalwork and preserving foodstuffs, no need for electricity, own lots of dangerous handtools
Cons: Wimpy pacifists, might freak out for religious reasons, no experience or skill with guns, typically live in environments where zombies would be okay
Pros: Know farming, already live off the grid, lots of skill with metalwork and preserving foodstuffs, no need for electricity, own lots of dangerous handtools
Cons: Wimpy pacifists, might freak out for religious reasons, no experience or skill with guns, typically live in environments where zombies would be okay
Pros: Know farming, already live off the grid, lots of skill with metalwork and preserving foodstuffs, no need for electricity, own lots of dangerous handtools
Cons: Wimpy pacifists, might freak out for religious reasons, no experience or skill with guns, typically live in environments where zombies would be okay
I imagine zombiepocalypse Amish being basically Abraham Lincoln from Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
Fear the Hatchet.
Fake edit: is this offensive to Amish people? It might be, huh? They don't use the Internet though, right? I feel okay with this post after thinking it out.
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Do the Amish have any violence provisions for fighting "demons" or "possessed" as it were?
Because now I'm thinking about Amish with scythes and later zweihanders fighting zombies.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Hypothesis:
The Amish would do pretty good for a while, but would be eventually murdered by gangs of marauders after the dust settled.
I feel like some younger Amish, like the ones who just recently took their rumspringa would maybe be more willing to change their ways in the event of a zombie apocalypse scenario
The old dudes who had been living that way their whole lives, though, they'd be on the plate
re: brain eating amoeba, that's apparently indigenous to some but not all natural water bodies in Australia.
Again, all sorts of brain-eating species of amoebas and protozoans live in freshwater everywhere. They are exceedingly common... it isn't that a single species has a special predilection for brains or anything (the most common one detected is Naeglaria fowleri, but there are other reported cases of different species of amoeba and protozoans causing brain abscesses, meningitis, and death due to brain injury). While the amoebas are common, the brain-eating infection is not (in fact, it is very rare... 0 to 8 cases a year reported in the world), because it requires migration through the cribiform plate or other open wound injuries to the skull, and even then, you have to get through the meninges.
Amoeba in freshwater CAN kill you, don't get me wrong. You'll just die of dysentery.
re: brain eating amoeba, that's apparently indigenous to some but not all natural water bodies in Australia.
Again, all sorts of brain-eating species of amoebas and protozoans live in freshwater everywhere. They are exceedingly common... it isn't that a single species has a special predilection for brains or anything. While the amoebas are common, the brain-eating infection is not (in fact, it is very rare), because it requires migration through the cribiform plate or other open wound injuries to the skull, and even then, you have to get through the meninges.
Amoeba in freshwater CAN kill you, don't get me wrong. You'll just die of dysentery.
I feel like some younger Amish, like the ones who just recently took their rumspringa would maybe be more willing to change their ways in the event of a zombie apocalypse scenario
The old dudes who had been living that way their whole lives, though, they'd be on the plate
Young Amish gangs of ruffians. Death to all zombies. The movie trailer practically writes itself.
I'd go around eating Zombies, with any that escaped falling prey to my infectious bite and becoming human.
Also, I'd set up a bunch of treadmill generators so that I could power my house while I awaited the results of my bites causing the human disease to reach critical mass triggering the Human apocalypse.
I think people get carried away with action-heroing in regards to zamboes. You probably don't need jeet kune do or motorised switchaxes. How about a snowshovel or a rake, that you can push against their chests without being reached? Or a plain lever without angles to grab?
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Yeah, but there's pharmacies located in the sticks too. Those things would be pretty much untouched versus penicillin and insulin.
If I ever got wind of some people trying to take the horde on with tactics they learned from movies I'd be hauling ass in the other direction, especially if they have guns. That "training" is not only dangerous to themselves but everyone around them, particularly when it comes to wielding weaponry.
Well not anymore, thanks for tipping everyone off...jeez!
Thered be no Sudafed to be found because tweakers would seize the opportunity to steal it all to make meth.
They're all mostly zombies now. Zombie pilots aren't a thing in our scenario, right?
I'm not a meth expert but my limited knowledge says that it takes more than ground up sudaphed to make effective methamphetamine.
But regardless: priorities! And getting high wouldn't be high on mine.
It takes some other stuff too, but Sudafed contains pseudoephedrine:
Which bears obvious similarities to methamphetamine:
And can be used as a reagent to synthesize it.
Now why you'd do that instead of stealing all the adderall, I dunno.
It's also non-communicable between victims in any way, which means that if it causes a zombie outbreak, it's not going to spread, and it's relatively self-contained.
Most labs aren't going to have restricted chemicals, and even then they aren't gonna be useful generally. At best you can get purer versions of the reagents you already have, but you'd really need pseudoephedrine as a base. The only real reason you'd want to run to a lab, if you didn't have technical knowledge, would be to scavenge for the actual drugs that some labs use. A meth lab (...you know what I mean) or cocaine lab is certainly not going to be needing what they have, although I don't think they'll tend to have very much. You're probably better off raiding the police station.
Meth heads can make meth in a Gatorade jug with some batteries and a penny.
You don't even want to imagine what they could do with Sudafed.
I imagine the best assets in those labs would be the equipment; glassware, precision scales (triple beam because lol electricity), etc.
Not that you couldn't make your Jet on a propane burner in a barricaded hotel room, but in this scenario cans of Chef Boyardee are going to be more valuable than wasteland drugs at least for a few years.
You don't want to steal the whole lot :P
If you do and there's an accident it will probably explode and light the water on fire.
That's what'd happen if someone stole all the reagents from my lab and mixed the wrong two, anyway. Or uncapped the one that turns into a bomb when it dries out.
"This is the biggest block of sodium I've ever seen! I'm exhausted from carrying it. Hey, neat, an entire cooler full of water. It would sure be refreshing to dump the entire thing all over myself right now! Here goes..."
Exhibit A on why I'll just take my chances with being a zombie during the zombiepocalypse. Shivahn will find a cure for me. Thanks in advance!
Today I learned how to make Methamphetamine during a Zombie Outbreak on a Comic-Strip Forum.
Seriously, thank you Penny Arcade, you give me the best things to say when someone asks "How was your day?"
Huge house, lots of defense, centrally located, nice big lawns for spotting zombies
plus a swimming pool!
I swear I expect Australia to come out of a Zombie apocalypse better than most countries. "Shrug. This whole place was already trying to kill us."
Australia's got the same environmental aspect that many places do when it comes to zombies. Too hot and dry, they'd desiccate in no time to the point where they wouldn't be mobile anymore.
Like they'd freeze anywhere close to the arctic circle.
Like they'd be crippled anywhere with high terrain differences and craggy ground.
Like how they'd become immobilized in swamps and rot in record time.
In the end there's not all that many areas of the world that are hospitable to zombies. Incidentally though, those are the areas with highest populations too, so basically the apocalypse would be the worst there, whereas people living in the more extreme environments would have a significantly easier time dealing with the zombies. They'd need to put most of the effort in surviving the environment itself, like it's always been. It's both a detriment and a benefit.
Pros: Know farming, already live off the grid, lots of skill with metalwork and preserving foodstuffs, no need for electricity, own lots of dangerous handtools
Cons: Wimpy pacifists, might freak out for religious reasons, no experience or skill with guns, typically live in environments where zombies would be okay
That would make a great tv show.
I imagine zombiepocalypse Amish being basically Abraham Lincoln from Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
Fear the Hatchet.
Fake edit: is this offensive to Amish people? It might be, huh? They don't use the Internet though, right? I feel okay with this post after thinking it out.
Because now I'm thinking about Amish with scythes and later zweihanders fighting zombies.
The Amish would do pretty good for a while, but would be eventually murdered by gangs of marauders after the dust settled.
Doing violence to them is like doing violence to a log when chopping firewood.
Amish philosophy is hardly going to accommodate this viewpoint though
The old dudes who had been living that way their whole lives, though, they'd be on the plate
Amoeba in freshwater CAN kill you, don't get me wrong. You'll just die of dysentery.
Suddenly, Oregon Trail flashbacks
I'd go around eating Zombies, with any that escaped falling prey to my infectious bite and becoming human.
Also, I'd set up a bunch of treadmill generators so that I could power my house while I awaited the results of my bites causing the human disease to reach critical mass triggering the Human apocalypse.
I feel like this is the video equivalent of "Relavent XKCD."
Right about what?
Like, can I put on a big ass helmet and neckguard, and like strap that on super tight, and go get myself bitten , and become a Endgame Boss?