Penny Arcade - PATV - First 15 – Massive Chalice

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Penny Arcade - PATV - First 15 – Massive Chalice

Gabe and Tycho play a game for 15 minutes and then judge it accordingly. This week they play Massive Chalice. You can watch the full length version of this episode here.

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darleysam

I've really enjoyed both playing this myself, and watching Muke and Jorry's utter joy at discovering how it works. Only wish this could've gone on longer so I could see them digging in to the whole planning and lineage stuff that also goes on.

WordLust

Nice seeing a Double Fine game make its way onto PATV. I get the sense (based on past podcasts) that Mike isn't the hugest fan of Tim Schafer games, but he seems to like Brad Muir games just fine! (See also: Trenched/Iron Brigade). I loved the reaction to the XP loss attack. I wonder how he would have reacted to other attacks that subtract years off the life of the target. (The enemies in Massive Chalice embody the negative effects of time: aging, forgetting, decay, etc; while heroes embody the positives: growth, learning, remembering, heritage, etc).

Gaslight

"Massive Chalice" still founds like the title of a vampire-themed porn movie. That's all I've got.

darleysam

WordLust wrote: »

Nice seeing a Double Fine game make its way onto PATV. I get the sense (based on past podcasts) that Mike isn't the hugest fan of Tim Schafer games, but he seems to like Brad Muir games just fine! (See also: Trenched/Iron Brigade). I loved the reaction to the XP loss attack. I wonder how he would have reacted to other attacks that subtract years off the life of the target. (The enemies in Massive Chalice embody the negative effects of time: aging, forgetting, decay, etc; while heroes embody the positives: growth, learning, remembering, heritage, etc).

Yeah, I love that the monsters have attacks that aren't just from the usual stable of elemental/DOT stuff. Enemies that drain XP or age your heroes are super cool! Just this morning I had someone heroically take either 10 or 15 years aging because I screwed up and they were drawing some attention away from my hunters.

Phaserlight

I'd say you need 3 hours at least to get a really good handle on this game. Once I did I could hardly wait to finish it. It was one of those rarities that kept me up until midnight, playing.

The last 150 years are especially brutal.

Oojo Kayso Wik

That Evil Midnight Bomber what Bombs at Midnight nod at the end there (probably reflexive) made me happy because whenever I see the word Bomber, I do the same darn thing...

darleysam

Phaserlight wrote: »

I'd say you need 3 hours at least to get a really good handle on this game. Once I did I could hardly wait to finish it. It was one of those rarities that kept me up until midnight, playing.

The last 150 years are especially brütal.

This is troubling, as I'm just about to enter the last 150 years in my first playthrough. Only had one terrible wipe so far, when I had only three gnarled, decrepit heroes to send into what was effectively a Soylent Green factory. It did not end well for them, or the region. Since then my priority has been to try and have a wide and healthy selection, then to pick the best hunters and alchemists.

YoungFrey

If this got you interested in Massive Chalice, it's currently $8 on Steam(it's lowest ever). Sale expires on Saturday.
<edit> This deal has expired.

HardKase

Can we talk about the phrase "that's beef"

That's not a thing. Is it?

doompooky

HardKase wrote: »

Can we talk about the phrase "that's beef"

That's not a thing. Is it?

Jerry has used it in the past to mean "that's quality." Not gonna lie, that phrase has also crept its way into my lexicon. You should try it, it's pure beef.

YoungFrey

doompooky wrote: »

HardKase wrote: »

Can we talk about the phrase "that's beef"

That's not a thing. Is it?

Jerry has used it in the past to mean "that's quality." Not gonna lie, that phrase has also crept its way into my lexicon. You should try it, it's pure beef.

It's the same form as saying something is "gold". It works for me.

orthancstone

HardKase wrote: »

Can we talk about the phrase "that's beef"

That's not a thing. Is it?

My favorite recent usage:

HardKase

Beef could be anything from a cow hit by a Semi to US Prime Cuts.

Why not that that's prime beef?
or keeping with the meat based analogy, that's Kobe?

Lets just implement a whole meat based grading system for everything, from Prime down to canner.

WordLust

I have a feeling the expression "that's beef" is somehow derived from the classic question "where's the beef?"

Jerry is just presuming someone already asked "where's the beef?" and is answering them preemptively. There is the beef. It's right there. What I'm seeing or hearing right now is beef. I have found it. That's beef, son.

Plastic Box

Since this thread still seems active! Jerry and Mike seem to think this is a cool game. I thought it looked neat enough to look further into, myself. "Mostly positive" reviews on Steam, but the highest-voted are all damningly negative - with a swarm of upvotes compared to the highest positive review.
I am assuming this is some sort of hate-based campaign against Double Fine for [insert perceived slight against their entire userbase, and also their mothers]? Does anybody know exactly what is going on?

Tube

Probably something something gamer gate.

WordLust

Plastic Box wrote: »

Since this thread still seems active! Jerry and Mike seem to think this is a cool game. I thought it looked neat enough to look further into, myself. "Mostly positive" reviews on Steam, but the highest-voted are all damningly negative - with a swarm of upvotes compared to the highest positive review.
I am assuming this is some sort of hate-based campaign against Double Fine for [insert perceived slight against their entire userbase, and also their mothers]? Does anybody know exactly what is going on?

Yes, this is 100% a hate campaign against Double Fine by gamergaters (because Tim Schafer supports Anita Sarkeesian and makes fun of GG at awards shows) and/or people who are still pissed about Spacebase (who don't know how to express valid criticism in a way that does not resemble jihad). This happened to Broken Age as well. The game averages a 9/10 steam rating with a "very positive" designation overall (not to mention a perfect 5/5 on itunes). The game has 3,670 positive reviews and only 644 negative, but people have gone through and upvoted all of the negative reviews and downvoted all of the positive reviews so that the store page shows all negative reviews.

People are fucking pathetic.

Also, Steam needs to get rid of reddit-style upvotes/downvotes on reviews. This type of situation is just one good reason.