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Penny Arcade - Comic - Biblicality

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Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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    LittlestarsLittlestars Registered User regular
    I wholly approve of this biblical interpretation. The Order of Gabe? Book of Krahello? The Michaelean Branch? Things to consider. I endorse your constitutionally-protected religious right to harpoon people.

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    Jakk FrostJakk Frost Registered User regular
    Better be careful, guys, you might have the FFRF knocking on your doors.

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    tofeitofei Registered User regular
    You being a heathen obviously have not heard of it yet. So I'm telling you now, Jesus did call for us to be "fishers of men"!

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    AgentflitAgentflit Registered User regular
    I dig the neon-acid color palette Mike's been into lately

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    TFXRavenTFXRaven Galactic Emperor Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    I love Mike's experiments!

    ...I don't like that Jerry's news post goes up hours after I read the comic, so I usually don't read it until the next comic comes up. SYNERGY, PEOPLE!

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Harpooning people out of their cars is my second favorite thing about Mad Max.

    First favorite is spending hours in camera mode trying to get the perfect shot.

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Harpooning people out of their cars is my second favorite thing about Mad Max.

    First favorite is spending hours in camera mode trying to get the perfect shot.

    I like how you can add a second controller on the console that can trigger the capture mode so you can play and force someone to trigger snapshot mode at the perfect moment.

    “I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
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    RobonunRobonun It's all fun and games until someone pisses off China Registered User regular
    Sunday School would have been far more entertaining using this interpretation of Matthew 4:19.

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    Finnish_LineFinnish_Line Registered User regular
    TFXRaven wrote: »
    I love Mike's experiments!

    ...I don't like that Jerry's news post goes up hours after I read the comic, so I usually don't read it until the next comic comes up. SYNERGY, PEOPLE!


    They do it this way to try to get people to visit the site twice each day a comic is uploaded.

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    Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar New Badges? Fucking BOSS!Registered User regular
    Gabe has a special kind of bond with Jesus. Tycho? Not so much.

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    Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
    Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!

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    identeregareidenteregare Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    I take it that the second half of Jerry's post was about the Polygon review of the game? I felt it was a valid(-ish) shakedown of it, reviewing it in the thematic context of the recent film that it is a tie-in to (as Polygon does, and fair play to them - they've always liked to take a cultural-criticism stance). I find that pretty reasonable - after all, if a game is meant as a movie tie-in, wouldn't you expect it to share the movie's themes? - and found it to be a workmanlike effort.

    In addition, the review also pointed out that the build that they played suffered from some pretty egregious bugs (blatant pop-in, framerate drops, audio cutting out for no discernible reason) which sound to me depressingly similar to those reported for the original release of Arkham Knight for the PC (also a WB game; what's up with that?).

    I won't say that such a review reflects only the "interior geometry of [the reviewer's] skull". The reviewer didn't score the game ex nihilo; it was informed by the experience of playing the game (which encompasses a whole range of factors, objective and subjective, such as gameplay mechanics, graphical performance, control schemes, themes, voice acting, and so on). Yes, in the end it is mediated by the mind of the reviewer, but then again so is your own gameplay experience.

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    YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    I won't say that such a review reflects only the "interior geometry of [the reviewer's] skull". The reviewer didn't pull the score out of thin air; it was informed by the experience of playing the game (which encompasses a whole range of factors, objective and subjective, such as gameplay mechanics, graphical performance, control schemes, themes, voice acting, and so on), mediated by the mind of the reviewer.

    Clarification: Polygon scores are never picked by the reviewer. The review is written and several other members of the staff read it and agree on what score the written review represents.

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    identeregareidenteregare Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    YoungFrey wrote: »
    I won't say that such a review reflects only the "interior geometry of [the reviewer's] skull". The reviewer didn't pull the score out of thin air; it was informed by the experience of playing the game (which encompasses a whole range of factors, objective and subjective, such as gameplay mechanics, graphical performance, control schemes, themes, voice acting, and so on), mediated by the mind of the reviewer.

    Clarification: Polygon scores are never picked by the reviewer. The review is written and several other members of the staff read it and agree on what score the written review represents.

    That's good to know, though it the staff panel includes editorial staff then the possibility of it being selected on clickbaity grounds may be infinitesimally increased.

    NB: I've edited my post since your reply, mostly to clarify my thoughts, but the sentiment of my original comment is (hopefully) preserved.

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    gekkobeargekkobear Registered User regular
    Don't have the game yet... been watching a youtube playthrough to get an idea of "would I like it" while being immersed in the Empyrion paid alpha.

    Call it early access, whatever. I paid for it, to play it early; and don't regret that choice.
    * But I digress...

    Watching someone (Splattercat) play it; I'm getting a "Red Faction: Guerilla" feel from the game.
    If that holds true, I might wait for a sale; but I will very likely own the game relatively soon.

    One question.
    Now that youtube is a thing; who reads reviews? And why?

    Given a choice of
    "read reviews from a dozen smart people who know games; but may or may not like the same things you like"
    or
    "watch someone else play the game, being able to skip over parts you're less interested in to see how it handles"

    No, I don't get reviews. I literally don't understand the concept as a valuable proposition in this day and age.
    I have a better tool to do this, you might as well offer me a telegraph for my home so I can communicate with my family.
    I'm sure it was a valuable tool in it's time; but that time seems to have passed.

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    SoundProofingSoundProofing Registered User regular
    This comic makes me want to buy the game now. I'm not sure why the game is polarizing to reviewers(9s, 5s and even a zero and a 10) but it makes me regret not demoing this game at PAX last weekend. I was going to wait til I finished MGS 5 but reading Tycho's take on the game may provoke me to accelerate the time table. Man-fishing !!!

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    TFXRaven wrote: »
    I love Mike's experiments!

    ...I don't like that Jerry's news post goes up hours after I read the comic, so I usually don't read it until the next comic comes up. SYNERGY, PEOPLE!


    They do it this way to try to get people to visit the site twice each day a comic is uploaded.

    I'm curious why you think this is the case.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    gekkobear wrote: »
    Don't have the game yet... been watching a youtube playthrough to get an idea of "would I like it" while being immersed in the Empyrion paid alpha.

    Call it early access, whatever. I paid for it, to play it early; and don't regret that choice.
    * But I digress...

    Watching someone (Splattercat) play it; I'm getting a "Red Faction: Guerilla" feel from the game.
    If that holds true, I might wait for a sale; but I will very likely own the game relatively soon.

    One question.
    Now that youtube is a thing; who reads reviews? And why?

    Given a choice of
    "read reviews from a dozen smart people who know games; but may or may not like the same things you like"
    or
    "watch someone else play the game, being able to skip over parts you're less interested in to see how it handles"

    No, I don't get reviews. I literally don't understand the concept as a valuable proposition in this day and age.
    I have a better tool to do this, you might as well offer me a telegraph for my home so I can communicate with my family.
    I'm sure it was a valuable tool in it's time; but that time seems to have passed.
    Conversely, I don't understand why anybody cares about streamers, and I really like reading some smart peoples opinions and analyses.
    Even with the games I have enjoyed watching people play, a lot of the time I have no desire to play them.

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    Trogdor6135Trogdor6135 Registered User regular
    I really thought Gabe's face in that third panel was going to be one of a psychotic, but that slight smile might be more unsettling.

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    Leon2309Leon2309 Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    gekkobear wrote: »
    Don't have the game yet... been watching a youtube playthrough to get an idea of "would I like it" while being immersed in the Empyrion paid alpha.

    Call it early access, whatever. I paid for it, to play it early; and don't regret that choice.
    * But I digress...

    Watching someone (Splattercat) play it; I'm getting a "Red Faction: Guerilla" feel from the game.
    If that holds true, I might wait for a sale; but I will very likely own the game relatively soon.

    One question.
    Now that youtube is a thing; who reads reviews? And why?

    Given a choice of
    "read reviews from a dozen smart people who know games; but may or may not like the same things you like"
    or
    "watch someone else play the game, being able to skip over parts you're less interested in to see how it handles"

    No, I don't get reviews. I literally don't understand the concept as a valuable proposition in this day and age.
    I have a better tool to do this, you might as well offer me a telegraph for my home so I can communicate with my family.
    I'm sure it was a valuable tool in it's time; but that time seems to have passed.

    For me, it is a case of not wanting to watch someone play the game, because it would weaken, maybe even ruin, the fun and exploration if I have already seen someone else do everything. I would rather read or watch (usually prefer watch anymore) a review from someone to get a general idea of whether a game is for me or not. I do this because that way they do not spoil everything, and give me just enough of a taste to determine if I want to take the risk on a game or not.

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    DurkhanusDurkhanus Commander Registered User regular
    Fangs.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2015
    "Those times when there were but one set of tire tracks in the desiccated wasteland? Those were the times I dragged you..."

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    "Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are." - Bertolt Brecht
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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    gekkobear wrote: »
    Don't have the game yet... been watching a youtube playthrough to get an idea of "would I like it" while being immersed in the Empyrion paid alpha.

    Call it early access, whatever. I paid for it, to play it early; and don't regret that choice.
    * But I digress...

    Watching someone (Splattercat) play it; I'm getting a "Red Faction: Guerilla" feel from the game.
    If that holds true, I might wait for a sale; but I will very likely own the game relatively soon.

    One question.
    Now that youtube is a thing; who reads reviews? And why?

    Given a choice of
    "read reviews from a dozen smart people who know games; but may or may not like the same things you like"
    or
    "watch someone else play the game, being able to skip over parts you're less interested in to see how it handles"

    No, I don't get reviews. I literally don't understand the concept as a valuable proposition in this day and age.
    I have a better tool to do this, you might as well offer me a telegraph for my home so I can communicate with my family.
    I'm sure it was a valuable tool in it's time; but that time seems to have passed.

    Reviews are quicker, more insightful and can catch at bits that watching a game can't really convey such as game feel and immersion. Also reviews tend to spoil less for people who care about them.


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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Seeing people criticize a review score because it doesn't match other review scores is one of the weirdest parts of the game review sphere.

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    Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar New Badges? Fucking BOSS!Registered User regular
    gekkobear wrote: »
    Don't have the game yet... been watching a youtube playthrough to get an idea of "would I like it" while being immersed in the Empyrion paid alpha.

    Call it early access, whatever. I paid for it, to play it early; and don't regret that choice.
    * But I digress...

    Watching someone (Splattercat) play it; I'm getting a "Red Faction: Guerilla" feel from the game.
    If that holds true, I might wait for a sale; but I will very likely own the game relatively soon.

    One question.
    Now that youtube is a thing; who reads reviews? And why?

    Given a choice of
    "read reviews from a dozen smart people who know games; but may or may not like the same things you like"
    or
    "watch someone else play the game, being able to skip over parts you're less interested in to see how it handles"

    No, I don't get reviews. I literally don't understand the concept as a valuable proposition in this day and age.
    I have a better tool to do this, you might as well offer me a telegraph for my home so I can communicate with my family.
    I'm sure it was a valuable tool in it's time; but that time seems to have passed.

    Reviews are quicker, more insightful and can catch at bits that watching a game can't really convey such as game feel and immersion. Also reviews tend to spoil less for people who care about them.


    Watching a Let's Play video is just silly if you don't want the game spoiled. There are fantastic review channels out there that explain and show the advantages and disadvantages of any aspect far better than reading a like that says, "the controls were very difficult to handle."
    Written reviews can be quicker to absorb (despite lacking detailed information), but if the reviewer shares a lot of the same preferences as the reader, then there is a lot more trust to be had in skimming through a written review than watching a 5 minute video dissecting the game.

    Star Wars (2 separate links)
    Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
    Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!

    I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
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    briguybriguy Registered User regular
    I love Gabe's childlike glee while playing the game in the first panel.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    The entire scoring system is a terrible thing for reviews. A critic should explain why or why not they liked something and not be forced to assign it a value to that labels it as "better" or "worse" than another game that can't really be judged by the same criteria.

    That the person writing the review for Polygon isn't in charge of the score assigned to the game is not just a charge against the scoring system, but also a score against Polygon's editorial practices.

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    GDT1985GDT1985 Registered User regular
    As much as scores are just opinions, I really like the way EGM does it. They use the entire scale instead of the Four Point Scale. Also for a while they switched to a letter grade in an attempt to get people to stop complaining when a game got a middle of the road score.(5.0 is an average score=a 'C' grade)

    I still like to read reviews, but it usually doesn't effect my purchasing habits.

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    metroidkillahmetroidkillah Local Bunman Free Country, USARegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    ...and not be forced to assign it a value to that labels it as "better" or "worse" than another game that can't really be judged by the same criteria.
    Wait, so Polygon's scoring system actually a universal comparison? I know readers tend to treat scores that way, but it's been pretty obvious for a while that's a really bad way to apply them.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    ...and not be forced to assign it a value to that labels it as "better" or "worse" than another game that can't really be judged by the same criteria.
    Wait, so Polygon's scoring system actually a universal comparison? I know readers tend to treat scores that way, but it's been pretty obvious for a while that's a really bad way to apply them.

    It doesn't matter if they consider it a universal comparison or not, because the general readership and Metacritic will treat the scores as universal comparisons.

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    Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar New Badges? Fucking BOSS!Registered User regular
    GDT1985 wrote: »
    As much as scores are just opinions, I really like the way EGM does it. They use the entire scale instead of the Four Point Scale. Also for a while they switched to a letter grade in an attempt to get people to stop complaining when a game got a middle of the road score.(5.0 is an average score=a 'C' grade)

    I don't disagree with you, but holy shit...if only that's how grading worked when I went to school, I would have had "passing" grades on all my exams. College, plz...y u so hard?

    Star Wars (2 separate links)
    Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
    Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!

    I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
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