I'm generally opposed to dailies in games because most of them are more chores than anything else, designed to make people come back every day when they might otherwise not... They often don't really involve playing the game.... Like having to feed your horse... But the dailies on hots are just "play hots " , sure sometimes with heroes you don't play often but I agree it's good to get exposure to other characters to understand how they play and how to play bs them. It also helps that I play everything and own lots of heroes, I suppose
well, i agreed with his first tweet, but now i can't tell if he's just being sarcastic.
he said he was soloqing hero league to really see what the players are seeing, so I thought he was venting legit frustration
Is it offside to tweet browder to ask what his Hot Slogs mmr is?
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I'd imagine (competitive) game developers are generally not great at their own games--it's not their job and they don't have time to really devote to playing it that way.
I think it depends. Maybe in general, but I know for a fact some of the Hearthstone devs are really really good at Hearthstone, for example. I mean hell, they even snatched up a former pro player who's a dev for them now (Realz).
I know Dustin himself ain't too great, he's admitted it himself, and maybe that's because of time restraints or maybe he's just plain not good at the game? But again, I think it depends, there's definitely going to be some devs that are really really good and some that aren't too hot.
Hearthstone may be a weird case as the core team were all Blizzard veterans with multiple talents so I imagine they all contributed to the actual design of the game. Someone who works on the game as an engine or tools programmer or an artist is less likely to have a good a grasp on the game as someone working on it as a game designer or map designer.
Not sure exactly what Browder's actual job description is mind you.
And, if DOTA2 could charge for champs they would. Valve isn't a non profit. They went a different route to squeeze juice from that one.
eh, they don't charge for classes in the TF2
The real reason to discount DotA2 from these discussions isn't the DotA1 precedent, the massive UI and bugfix overhauls provided in DotA2 are more than enough to make most players not willing to go back to DotA1. The thing is that Valve is such a ridiculous company with ridiculous margins from the fact that they're running Steam that they are essentially in a Google-like position: they have so much money they can do whatever silly idea they want and can afford the loss if it doesn't pan out.
Like, I'm pretty sure DotA2 wasn't profitable for the first few months, or even years; but Valve didn't care because they're Valve, and it also did things like rope old HoN players into finally installing Steam and losing their wallet to sales. And then Valve figured out what they were doing with cosmetics (they did a lot of legitimate experimentation in how to make them work between DotA, TF2 and CS:GO) and now it is also a cash cow.
dota 2 was valve's most profitable game in its first year, and i hesitate to say valve has more margins than blizzard-activision, makers of products like call of duty and world of warcraft
but then, all these conversations do is have people unknowingly illustrate the blizzard fanbase point :bzz:
I think getting good at your own game is mainly a question of how much you play real matches in your own time. Most developers probably would rather be doing other things.
yeah it's generally a misconception from players that devs need to be good at their own game. that's generally something you only see on the indie side of things, where a dev is also QA
As someone who has never played another moba, the hots prices seem mostly fine. Like, I have a decent stable of characters and I've spent like, maybe 20 on the game. I only wish skins were cheaper. If street fighter could offer me high poly skins for like 3 bucks, why can't blizz? And capcom was always the worst with dlc.
(okay, I guess Strife is worse, but does it count if nobody is playing it?)
Unless something's changed or I missed it, Strife has basically the DOTA model of all the characters open for everyone to use and makes the dollars off cosmetics.
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Had a 45 minute game on spider queen today. 45. Forty five. Fortunately we won, but man the objective in that map needs to scale harder to avoid that.
the real problem is that when you're winning, it's so much harder to get gems because they're closer to the enemy base. so eventually just nobody can even get the objective and that's even worse.
Also I played a game today with a Johanna said it was their job to die as tank. Today's losses have certainly been memorable.
Well, the jobs isn't exactly to die but as a tank I always take the rear in a retreat. If someone is going to die it should be me.
However with his death trait, as Leoric I do very much feel like if anyone is going to die it should be me. I don't try to die but if I see an opportunity to sacrifice myself so someone else can live I'll do it.
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I have died on purpose many times as Jo. Usually to accomplish a goal. Like getting the last guys on shrines or securing some kills.
I need to get Nova to 9 for the gold, but fuck me if she isn't kind of a bear to play with Gathering Power nerfed.
Worse, I think Envenom is the best replacement talent, which isn't super great after ITS nerf. So it kinda sucks all around.
i think remote delivery is better if you go decoys, better lines it up with the cooldowns on snipe and pinning. i generally find getting into envenom range with nova to be a death sentence with all the good warriors around these days though.
i haven't played nova much at all since the nerf though, so idk. a lot of her talents suck now.
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Seriously Blizz? Not that the other team was much better, with no support either.
Actually your team is pretty much downright remarkable since neither side has support. Other than being mostly melee, you have the best warrior in the game and a second warrior that has some of the best hard CC in the game. You have one of the most sustained DPS in the game that just needs solid hard CC you happen to have... consistantly. Questionably the best push in the game. And a solid assassin that is half warrior.
I mean just look at your team as that nova. THE BUTCHER has the lowest health pool on that team. That is pretty much 5 walls of lard and that Nova pretty much is going to NOPE out of every team fight. The only thing she can be good for is her heroic. Then hide because the second she is out butcher tags her and she dies any they do not have the burst to stop anyone from helping him.
played a couple protect the hammer games with a few PAers then pubs - strat checks out when the other team isn't fully on point and can't dive her through your peel
I need to get Nova to 9 for the gold, but fuck me if she isn't kind of a bear to play with Gathering Power nerfed.
Worse, I think Envenom is the best replacement talent, which isn't super great after ITS nerf. So it kinda sucks all around.
i think remote delivery is better if you go decoys, better lines it up with the cooldowns on snipe and pinning. i generally find getting into envenom range with nova to be a death sentence with all the good warriors around these days though.
i haven't played nova much at all since the nerf though, so idk. a lot of her talents suck now.
Except that Diablo outhealed you... geez Lucid... way to go.
... that's not healing, that's how much damage he took. Tanks have a little shield that says how much damage they took over the game. Supports have a hand that shows how much healing they did.
Except that Diablo outhealed you... geez Lucid... way to go.
... that's not healing, that's how much damage he took. Tanks have a little shield that says how much damage they took over the game. Supports have a hand that shows how much healing they did.
Woosh?
Also I never trust the healing stat much. I can play equally well in two games, but it's usually the actions of my team that decides what my numbers are. Also stomps usually give me higher numbers, because all my allies stay alive and I just top them off.
Except that Diablo outhealed you... geez Lucid... way to go.
... that's not healing, that's how much damage he took. Tanks have a little shield that says how much damage they took over the game. Supports have a hand that shows how much healing they did.
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bw is totally competent and can put up very good healing #s since her heal is free and aoe. her problem is just a total dearth of burst healing, she misses gust so badly.
I'm going to guess people will say Leoric and Tyrnade at least?
raynor. raynor is already good, and buffing more warriors makes him even more scary. dude eats them alive, and he's only 2k! Sonya also goes into this bin because she's already got enormous damage and they're making it even better with slam not resetting her AA cooldown.
Leoric is probably a good bet since he's busted op for now, and Tyrande looks like she's getting some good changes and is already scary as fuck in hero league with one of the healing supports.
Well I got Raynor, Tyrande and Sonya. I still have over 30k, so I can get Morales for a healing SC support (and they're nerfing Tass), and Artanis. That leaves 10 for something else.
Well I got Raynor, Tyrande and Sonya. I still have over 30k, so I can get Morales for a healing SC support (and they're nerfing Tass), and Artanis. That leaves 10 for something else.
Only Archon. Everything else is getting buffed. His actual support ability, Plasma Shield, will absorb more (on heroes), have a shorter cooldown, and cost less mana.
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played a couple protect the hammer games with a few PAers then pubs - strat checks out when the other team isn't fully on point and can't dive her through your peel
I just played a game on Battlefield of Eternity where everyone was on the same page to defend our immortal and stay within our Hammer's range, because we had a squishy team and they were all ranged (Kael, Raynor, etc.). Then our Hammer decided to be a special snowflake and just do her own thing. Which included leaving defense and going on offense (fine, we'll follow you), then leaving their immortal while we're actively fighting a team battle and solo laning (wtf?), then getting pissed when I tell everyone to just follow her because it's not going to work unless we all stick together.
Seriously. I said, "everyone just follow Hammer and do what they want." So she then proceeded to literally go around in circles in our base doing nothing for a good 30 seconds. And everyone follows her. Then I call her out on it and say "what are you doing?" and she says "muting you, that's what".
This is the kind of immature bullshit that bothers me even more than the blatant trolls and just plain negative behavior. If you think you know what's best and want to do your own thing, fine. But if the team is then willing to follow your lead because you're a super-special snowflake and you know exactly what to do, you don't get to abdicate responsibility just because you can't handle it anymore. Either work with the team or lead the team. Otherwise, take your passive aggressive bullshit and go play a solo game or queue up for AI.
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Hearthstone may be a weird case as the core team were all Blizzard veterans with multiple talents so I imagine they all contributed to the actual design of the game. Someone who works on the game as an engine or tools programmer or an artist is less likely to have a good a grasp on the game as someone working on it as a game designer or map designer.
Not sure exactly what Browder's actual job description is mind you.
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Admittedly we lost three times in a row but rightfully.
dota 2 was valve's most profitable game in its first year, and i hesitate to say valve has more margins than blizzard-activision, makers of products like call of duty and world of warcraft
but then, all these conversations do is have people unknowingly illustrate the blizzard fanbase point :bzz:
I see he has been playing HL solo queue as promised.
matchmaker so badddddddddddddd
Unless something's changed or I missed it, Strife has basically the DOTA model of all the characters open for everyone to use and makes the dollars off cosmetics.
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the real problem is that when you're winning, it's so much harder to get gems because they're closer to the enemy base. so eventually just nobody can even get the objective and that's even worse.
Well, the jobs isn't exactly to die but as a tank I always take the rear in a retreat. If someone is going to die it should be me.
However with his death trait, as Leoric I do very much feel like if anyone is going to die it should be me. I don't try to die but if I see an opportunity to sacrifice myself so someone else can live I'll do it.
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Their team is Sylvanas, Illidan, Butcher, Thrall, and Nazeebo.
I cannot do a thing because Illidan went the Hunt so two of their teammates get a free kill once I decide to do anything.
Seriously Blizz? Not that the other team was much better, with no support either.
Save your anger for when the matchmaking literally breaks and doesn't give them a healer but gives the opposing team a Uther + Li Li.
Worse, I think Envenom is the best replacement talent, which isn't super great after ITS nerf. So it kinda sucks all around.
i think remote delivery is better if you go decoys, better lines it up with the cooldowns on snipe and pinning. i generally find getting into envenom range with nova to be a death sentence with all the good warriors around these days though.
i haven't played nova much at all since the nerf though, so idk. a lot of her talents suck now.
Actually your team is pretty much downright remarkable since neither side has support. Other than being mostly melee, you have the best warrior in the game and a second warrior that has some of the best hard CC in the game. You have one of the most sustained DPS in the game that just needs solid hard CC you happen to have... consistantly. Questionably the best push in the game. And a solid assassin that is half warrior.
I mean just look at your team as that nova. THE BUTCHER has the lowest health pool on that team. That is pretty much 5 walls of lard and that Nova pretty much is going to NOPE out of every team fight. The only thing she can be good for is her heroic. Then hide because the second she is out butcher tags her and she dies any they do not have the burst to stop anyone from helping him.
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She just can't keep pace with other healers, they say. And forget it if she's the only healer on a team vs a team with two healers!
Especially when compared to LiLi.
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Except that Diablo outhealed you... geez Lucid... way to go.
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I feel very bad for that other team. Your hammer had a free field day
... that's not healing, that's how much damage he took. Tanks have a little shield that says how much damage they took over the game. Supports have a hand that shows how much healing they did.
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I have
Warriors - Anub, Jo, ETC, Mura
Assassins - Valla, Zera, Illi, Jaina, Kael
Support - Malf, Lili, Tass, Uther, Rehgar, BW, Khara
Specialist - Zagara, Murky, Azmo, Sylvanas
I'm going to guess people will say Leoric and Tyrnade at least?
Woosh?
Also I never trust the healing stat much. I can play equally well in two games, but it's usually the actions of my team that decides what my numbers are. Also stomps usually give me higher numbers, because all my allies stay alive and I just top them off.
thatsthejoke.jpg
bw is totally competent and can put up very good healing #s since her heal is free and aoe. her problem is just a total dearth of burst healing, she misses gust so badly.
raynor. raynor is already good, and buffing more warriors makes him even more scary. dude eats them alive, and he's only 2k! Sonya also goes into this bin because she's already got enormous damage and they're making it even better with slam not resetting her AA cooldown.
Leoric is probably a good bet since he's busted op for now, and Tyrande looks like she's getting some good changes and is already scary as fuck in hero league with one of the healing supports.
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Only Archon. Everything else is getting buffed. His actual support ability, Plasma Shield, will absorb more (on heroes), have a shorter cooldown, and cost less mana.
I just played a game on Battlefield of Eternity where everyone was on the same page to defend our immortal and stay within our Hammer's range, because we had a squishy team and they were all ranged (Kael, Raynor, etc.). Then our Hammer decided to be a special snowflake and just do her own thing. Which included leaving defense and going on offense (fine, we'll follow you), then leaving their immortal while we're actively fighting a team battle and solo laning (wtf?), then getting pissed when I tell everyone to just follow her because it's not going to work unless we all stick together.
Seriously. I said, "everyone just follow Hammer and do what they want." So she then proceeded to literally go around in circles in our base doing nothing for a good 30 seconds. And everyone follows her. Then I call her out on it and say "what are you doing?" and she says "muting you, that's what".
This is the kind of immature bullshit that bothers me even more than the blatant trolls and just plain negative behavior. If you think you know what's best and want to do your own thing, fine. But if the team is then willing to follow your lead because you're a super-special snowflake and you know exactly what to do, you don't get to abdicate responsibility just because you can't handle it anymore. Either work with the team or lead the team. Otherwise, take your passive aggressive bullshit and go play a solo game or queue up for AI.