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Cats and Dogs who are sometimes Wizards in the [Snugglehug] thread. (nsf56k)

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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    pugs are all adorable what is this insanity



    Seriously, though, pugs are adorable.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    pugs just make me feel guilty

    WE DID THIS TO THEM

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    pugs just make me feel guilty

    WE DID THIS TO THEM

    Pugs are cute, but pretty unhealthy dogs. I would pat and play with one, but I wouldn't be sad if the breed just entirely went away within a couple generations.

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    I have a Maltese and as a puppy when he would run around in my parents' backyard with their dogs, he loved to slide underneath the bottom stair of the stairway to the upper patio.

    Until the day he tried doing it when he was a little too big. He didn't cry, but he sure as hell never tried again after that.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    pugs used to have faces long enough to have proper nasal passages, but too often in dog breeding the drive for winning shows leads breeders to focus on appearance/what is in style/what the judges will look for rather than the health of the dog. A dog show judge is going to look at your dog for at most a few minutes. It needs to look right, stand straight, and run in a circle and that's about it. They can't tell if it's going to have breathing problems, or issues with it's hips in 3-5 years, or anything else, so some breeders will unfortunately overlook or ignore serious health problems because they don't impact the dog's chances of winning, and then those traits become part of the breed.

    Pugs are one example of this, but cavalier king charles spaniels, English bulldogs, heck even German Shepherds tend to have a lot of issues with bad hips because of an emphasis on show appearance rather than health.

    Pugs used to be a healthy, functional breed but we absolutely did ruin them. I assume/hope there are still some breeders out there with older lines that are bred for heath, that still have the longer faces and so on, and it would be great if that soft of pug could make a comeback, but when I look at modern pugs as they wheeze down the street I get really sad. It's not the dog's fault, but at some point it feels unethical to keep deliberately breeding dogs that you know are going to have major health issues.

    Edit: not calling anyone out for liking or even owning pugs. Once the dogs are born they deserve the happiest lives/homes they can get same as any other dog but I would really like to see pug breeders make a concerted effort to try and improve the health of the breed, or if they can't breed a healthy dog, stop breeding.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I love before and after pet pictures so dang much

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  • scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I love before and after pet pictures so dang much

    it is also adorable when the humans try to get in on that action.

  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Pugs are one example of this, but cavalier king charles spaniels, English bulldogs, heck even German Shepherds tend to have a lot of issues with bad hips because of an emphasis on show appearance rather than health.

    "even" German shepherds? German shepherds as a breed has pretty much been 100% destroyed. Compare prize winning German shepherds from before 1950

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    to current ones

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Petesalzl wrote: »
    i would certainly say while not my first choice, my brother did get a pug and it has grown on me for sure.

    this is more my speed dog-wise
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    I think this is actually a Pomsky, not a Husky, Pomsky's rock, I want one so bad. They are basically Huskie's, that look like Husky puppies, FOREVER.

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  • OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    re: pugs obligatory chainsawsuit

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  • KaplarKaplar On Google MapsRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I love before and after pet pictures so dang much

    Bonus points if they still try to fit in the same places they did as a puppy.

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  • DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Pugs are one example of this, but cavalier king charles spaniels, English bulldogs, heck even German Shepherds tend to have a lot of issues with bad hips because of an emphasis on show appearance rather than health.

    "even" German shepherds? German shepherds as a breed has pretty much been 100% destroyed. Compare prize winning German shepherds from before 1950

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    to current ones

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    Breeding for Hip dysplasia 101

    Maybe I'm just bad at dogs, but those all look pretty similar to me?

    The modern one is definitely striking a pose, but the general face, body shape and coat all look about the same. I know German Shepards definitely do have hip issues these days, but how do these pictures illustrate that?

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Yeah, show breeding has wrecked a number of dog breeds. Why short thick dogs would be considered better I have no idea.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Short thick dogs look cute. Like munchkin cats etc. They trigger our baby loving brain juices.

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    The modern one is definitely striking a pose, but the general face, body shape and coat all look about the same. I know German Shepards definitely do have hip issues these days, but how do these pictures illustrate that?

    Dogs bred to be working and healthy dogs tend to have hips as high as their shoulders. For some reason show breeders bred dogs to have lower hips. If you look at wild wolves, African dogs...ect. They will have backs relatively parallel to the ground.

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Pugs are one example of this, but cavalier king charles spaniels, English bulldogs, heck even German Shepherds tend to have a lot of issues with bad hips because of an emphasis on show appearance rather than health.

    "even" German shepherds? German shepherds as a breed has pretty much been 100% destroyed. Compare prize winning German shepherds from before 1950

    GSD1.jpg

    to current ones

    Herding_Mystique_1-1.jpg

    Breeding for Hip dysplasia 101

    Maybe I'm just bad at dogs, but those all look pretty similar to me?

    The modern one is definitely striking a pose, but the general face, body shape and coat all look about the same. I know German Shepards definitely do have hip issues these days, but how do these pictures illustrate that?

    Look at the angle of the back legs? They are no longer positioned underneath the the hip-joint, but behind it, which will cause unnecessary stress.

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  • DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Thanks, that's a good and easily understandable explanation!

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Someone likes the new brand of catnip I think
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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    Because of videos of nervous dogs on the Internet, I was perhaps a little too impressed by my buddy's corgi's ability to transverse two flights of apartment roof access stairs.

    Of course, the dog in question was mostly just getting impatient I wasn't going down quickly enough, trying to herd us down the stairs and all.

  • PetesalzlPetesalzl vorpal blade in hand Registered User regular
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    i would certainly say while not my first choice, my brother did get a pug and it has grown on me for sure.

    this is more my speed dog-wise
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    I think this is actually a Pomsky, not a Husky, Pomsky's rock, I want one so bad. They are basically Huskie's, that look like Husky puppies, FOREVER.

    either way its adorable, i just googled husky and picked a photo

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    My puppy lives a "ruff" life.

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  • PetesalzlPetesalzl vorpal blade in hand Registered User regular
    buh-duh-chh

  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Petesalzl wrote: »
    Petesalzl wrote: »
    i would certainly say while not my first choice, my brother did get a pug and it has grown on me for sure.

    this is more my speed dog-wise
    Corgi-Husky-Mix-Puppy.jpg

    I think this is actually a Pomsky, not a Husky, Pomsky's rock, I want one so bad. They are basically Huskie's, that look like Husky puppies, FOREVER.

    either way its adorable, i just googled husky and picked a photo

    Oh ya, Huskies still rule, in a way huskies being so rad is what makes Pomskies so adorable, google Pomsky, and know that those aren't puppies, those are 5-10 year old dogs, that just still look exactly like Husky puppies.

    Full grown Pomsky

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Shadowen wrote: »
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    Me when I change my sheets.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    tumblr wrote:
    the dissolute countess is rarely a topic of discussion among the rest of the royal family, except in hushed, judgmental tones

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  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Borzois are so friggin handsome.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    that dog looks like the dog version of Nicole Kidman

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    That's a weird horse.

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    That dog evolved to escape old timey cartoon zoos.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
    snitty (snake kitty)

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  • KaplarKaplar On Google MapsRegistered User regular
    Dogsitting again this weekend. Picking her up tonight after my girlfriend and I go out to eat :biggrin:

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    liebot what is the saddest thing

    :cry:

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