Dude I now want an assault that focuses on that weapon , what should I save up for
I think the answers right now are King Crab and Mauler. The rest of the IS assaults don't have hardpoint arrangements to mount more than one, really. Definitely the K.Crab, though, and I can totally vouch for it.
Are you thinking of the booby prizes from the grab bag events?
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
It will be a while for the Mauler to show up for cbills since it just came out for money recently. I'm sure you'll enjoy the King Crab once you get it, I know I did.
Are you thinking of the booby prizes from the grab bag events?
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
Holy crap, that was a thing in Alpha/Early Beta? I'm kinda sorry I missed out on that.
I mean, it's functionally no different from getting C-bills (if all the numbers are balanced correctly, *PGI*), but sounds amazing.
It will be a while for the Mauler to show up for cbills since it just came out for money recently. I'm sure you'll enjoy the King Crab once you get it, I know I did.
Tracking , im sure it will take me awhile to get the credits anyway.
Are you thinking of the booby prizes from the grab bag events?
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
Holy crap, that was a thing in Alpha/Early Beta? I'm kinda sorry I missed out on that.
I mean, it's functionally no different from getting C-bills (if all the numbers are balanced correctly, *PGI*), but sounds amazing.
Here I thought you all played in early beta... Now everyone is making me question my memory.
Are you thinking of the booby prizes from the grab bag events?
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
Holy crap, that was a thing in Alpha/Early Beta? I'm kinda sorry I missed out on that.
I mean, it's functionally no different from getting C-bills (if all the numbers are balanced correctly, *PGI*), but sounds amazing.
Here I thought you all played in early beta... Now everyone is making me question my memory.
I remember getting in just before they removed knockdowns and the whole repair/rearm mechanic.
EDIT - so I guess that was mid-beta.
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Are you thinking of the booby prizes from the grab bag events?
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
Holy crap, that was a thing in Alpha/Early Beta? I'm kinda sorry I missed out on that.
I mean, it's functionally no different from getting C-bills (if all the numbers are balanced correctly, *PGI*), but sounds amazing.
Here I thought you all played in early beta... Now everyone is making me question my memory.
Closed beta just had the generic salvage system. But I came in later. Even after armor values were doubled.
Armor values were doubled off the bat, IIRC. Repair/rearm and salvage were still closed beta. I took a break before open beta started, I think.
Ok that is the MWO I remember playing before getting frustrated and quitting. Repair/rearming was such a pain for me since I could only sneak off to play once a month if I was lucky. Sheesh, so what you are saying is that I was in closed beta and never even knew it? Guess that was a possibility since I made my username way back when they only had a website.
First off, no shit guys, where have you been for a year and a half. Second of all, no quick fixes? Are you fucking kidding?
How about 4 ER/Pulse Mediums trigger ghost heat for a max 28/32 point alpha. Bam, right fucking there is like half your goddamn problem. Holy shit guys.
edit: Also, ghost heat falloff over 0.5 seconds would be great, and shouldn't be that bad to implement right? You fire at 0.49 seconds and get 1% of the ghost heat value instead of 100%
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Huh. "Art Director and Program Manager for [mobile games]."
This job description does not incline me to put strong stock in the opinions voiced there.
[QuickEdit] Also, maybe frontloaded/high-alpha damage might not matter as much, if there were any objectives that didn't include "Shoot the Other Guy" that mattered at all.
Also, maybe alphas would be less of a problem if out heat meter wasn't so xbawks huge and we instead had to care more about the rate that we sink heat.
Also, maybe alphas would be less of a problem if out heat meter wasn't so xbawks huge and we instead had to care more about the rate that we sink heat.
Actually, the more I read the MWO system and the TT system, the more I realize that the MWO system does pretty closely resemble the TT, what it is missing is all the heat penalties below the 30pt shutdown.
Pilot skills also create more of a gap on top of that. (Weapons generate less heat, heat sinks become more effective)
The super fast refire rate also increases the value.
I'd consult our giant illegal PM chain for specifics, but Tube baleeted the shit out of it once he found out.
I can see dead illegal PM chains.
But would never post in one again.
Consulting it for anything is the work of hours, the only navigation is "show older messages" that shows you the previous 20 or so messages, and considering that thread was going at IRC speeds at times.. minutes.
Edit: My copy of the PM chain is 1214 messages long.
Edit #2: I may have exaggerated how bad it was.
Also, maybe alphas would be less of a problem if out heat meter wasn't so xbawks huge and we instead had to care more about the rate that we sink heat.
I feel like its in a fairly good place at the moment. Being able to fire effectively for about 15 seconds on most builds makes it important to maintain line-of-sight so you can max out your damage potential, instead of just a bunch of peeking and poking because you can't fire twice in a row anyway.
System failures at high heat sound a lot better to me. Stuff like reduced sensor range, loss of targeting info, increased beam durations and weapon cooldowns. Makes it hard to overheat completely, and deal damage at long ranges.
I'd consult our giant illegal PM chain for specifics, but Tube baleeted the shit out of it once he found out.
I can see dead illegal PM chains.
But would never post in one again.
Consulting it for anything is the work of hours, the only navigation is "show older messages" that shows you the previous 20 or so messages, and considering that thread was going at IRC speeds at times..
Edit: My copy of the PM chain is 1214 messages long.
Hmm, I guess I deleted myself out of it or something. Oh well. You kinda had to be there.
I'd consult our giant illegal PM chain for specifics, but Tube baleeted the shit out of it once he found out.
I can see dead illegal PM chains.
But would never post in one again.
Consulting it for anything is the work of hours, the only navigation is "show older messages" that shows you the previous 20 or so messages, and considering that thread was going at IRC speeds at times..
Edit: My copy of the PM chain is 1214 messages long.
Hmm, I guess I deleted myself out of it or something. Oh well. You kinda had to be there.
Holy shit Catapults are so OP guys, if they aren't double Gauss/AC20'ing you in the face, they are pinpoint alpha'ing your CT for 72 damage with SRMs. And you can't even hit their Side Torsos because the CT is so big How can you hope to break through 60 armor in time to survive?
I'd consult our giant illegal PM chain for specifics, but Tube baleeted the shit out of it once he found out.
I can see dead illegal PM chains.
But would never post in one again.
Consulting it for anything is the work of hours, the only navigation is "show older messages" that shows you the previous 20 or so messages, and considering that thread was going at IRC speeds at times..
Edit: My copy of the PM chain is 1214 messages long.
Hmm, I guess I deleted myself out of it or something. Oh well. You kinda had to be there.
Holy shit Catapults are so OP guys, if they aren't double Gauss/AC20'ing you in the face, they are pinpoint alpha'ing your CT for 72 damage with SRMs.
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I have a strong feeling your trebuchet would be at least 300% more effective if it actually launched giant rocks.
It worked for Ewoks vs. AT-STs
So what you're saying..is we need functional hand actuators so we can pick up trees and smash enemy mechs.
I agree.
Learn to torso twist, people target that hump because its where most of a hunches firepower is.
Protect it with all you're worth.
Dat cannon, unf. Nothing's quite as satisfying as dropping a 20-large on an enemy target. A Dual-20 JagerMech is still one of my favorite rides.
King Crab
I think the answers right now are King Crab and Mauler. The rest of the IS assaults don't have hardpoint arrangements to mount more than one, really. Definitely the K.Crab, though, and I can totally vouch for it.
There's actually a rule for this in the tabletop game. It acts as a 1 use hatchet. You have to be in a forest hex to acquire one though.
White: 1721-3651-2720
I, more than anything, just want to reach out and grab a speedy little shithole light mech with my crab as its running past me
and give it the clamps so hard that it gets beautifully bifurcated.
Blown-off enemy limbs are so much more effective.
Oh man, this looks like it could be a bigger Hunchback IIc. If only the cannons were shoulder-mounted....
MAL-MX90: 2xAC/20(7.5t), 2xMPL, STD300
How's the torso-twist on the Mauler? Curious how good it is at rolling 'dem shoulders.
Nope forgot when I played MWO, bought a Commando as my first mech (since I never ventured into this thread long ago) and would get random weapons tossed into my mech bays as salvage after wins. I remember thinking how in the heck I would possibly use a LL after a match.
Steam: betsuni7
Steam: betsuni7
Holy crap, that was a thing in Alpha/Early Beta? I'm kinda sorry I missed out on that.
I mean, it's functionally no different from getting C-bills (if all the numbers are balanced correctly, *PGI*), but sounds amazing.
Tracking , im sure it will take me awhile to get the credits anyway.
Here I thought you all played in early beta... Now everyone is making me question my memory.
Steam: betsuni7
I remember getting in just before they removed knockdowns and the whole repair/rearm mechanic.
EDIT - so I guess that was mid-beta.
Closed beta just had the generic salvage system. But I came in later. Even after armor values were doubled.
Ok that is the MWO I remember playing before getting frustrated and quitting. Repair/rearming was such a pain for me since I could only sneak off to play once a month if I was lucky. Sheesh, so what you are saying is that I was in closed beta and never even knew it? Guess that was a possibility since I made my username way back when they only had a website.
Steam: betsuni7
First off, no shit guys, where have you been for a year and a half. Second of all, no quick fixes? Are you fucking kidding?
How about 4 ER/Pulse Mediums trigger ghost heat for a max 28/32 point alpha. Bam, right fucking there is like half your goddamn problem. Holy shit guys.
edit: Also, ghost heat falloff over 0.5 seconds would be great, and shouldn't be that bad to implement right? You fire at 0.49 seconds and get 1% of the ghost heat value instead of 100%
This job description does not incline me to put strong stock in the opinions voiced there.
[QuickEdit] Also, maybe frontloaded/high-alpha damage might not matter as much, if there were any objectives that didn't include "Shoot the Other Guy" that mattered at all.
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012
Actually, the more I read the MWO system and the TT system, the more I realize that the MWO system does pretty closely resemble the TT, what it is missing is all the heat penalties below the 30pt shutdown.
Pilot skills also create more of a gap on top of that. (Weapons generate less heat, heat sinks become more effective)
The super fast refire rate also increases the value.
MWO: Adamski
I can see dead illegal PM chains.
But would never post in one again.
Consulting it for anything is the work of hours, the only navigation is "show older messages" that shows you the previous 20 or so messages, and considering that thread was going at IRC speeds at times.. minutes.
Edit: My copy of the PM chain is 1214 messages long.
Edit #2: I may have exaggerated how bad it was.
I feel like its in a fairly good place at the moment. Being able to fire effectively for about 15 seconds on most builds makes it important to maintain line-of-sight so you can max out your damage potential, instead of just a bunch of peeking and poking because you can't fire twice in a row anyway.
System failures at high heat sound a lot better to me. Stuff like reduced sensor range, loss of targeting info, increased beam durations and weapon cooldowns. Makes it hard to overheat completely, and deal damage at long ranges.
Hmm, I guess I deleted myself out of it or something. Oh well. You kinda had to be there.
Holy shit Catapults are so OP guys, if they aren't double Gauss/AC20'ing you in the face, they are pinpoint alpha'ing your CT for 72 damage with SRMs. And you can't even hit their Side Torsos because the CT is so big
sigh
how little we knew back in those days
Edit: Well, looks like I'm updating MWO now..
One of us! One of us! One of us!
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012
Shrink its torso by 30%, and give it completely new arms that are..like..how can I describe it in text..
[_]ˉˉ ˉˉ[_] with the ˉˉ parts above the STs. so they are kinda..hugging the side torsos.