I would be remiss in my kitteh ownership not to take Meowkai into our home.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
New champ looks like he shares some aesthetics with Shyvana, which is pretty rad. Nice to see effort placed not just into one champion design, but repeating a theme when appropriate.
HOLY SHIT RIOT JUST HIRED SETH KILLIAN? Wow. That's kinda mind-blowing. And the Cannon brothers? I'm kind of worried now.
whooooooa
Woah what, I missed this but this huge! And crazy! I never thought we'd see Seth doing anything besides Street Fighter
It's not Seth I'm worried about, it's the Cannon brothers. As a loooong time FG player and sometime tournament organizer, it's well-known that the Cannon brothers actively discouraged outside participation of mainstream companies including MLG (and according to some sources, even Capcom) at one time in the FGC circuit. Their goal was to keep everything "grassroots" which really meant that everything was supposed to funnel into EVO as the premier FGC event. Seeing that the Cannon brothers own/operate/control EVO, you can see how all this bluster is just basically aimed at getting dollars into their own pockets.
Don't even get me started about the fucking highway robbery when it comes to EVO payouts. How does the winner of a 1600+ player tournament, each player paying in AT LEAST $10 per person only to have the winner walk away with only 1.5k? Ask Xian in 2013. I mean I'm even lowballing the buy-ins at $10. It was $10 in 2010 when I went, and I know for sure it went up in succeeding years.
Basically the Cannon brothers are shady, were enemies of esports and would have kept the FGC in the stone ages had not Capcom itself organized the Pro Tour.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
They bought the company Killian had started. That company immediately shut down production on the fighting game they were working on. I would not be shocked to see a "new" title from Riot in a few months with LoL characters that looks remarkably like that game. I'm guessing the whole "make games other than League" thing wasn't working out so they just said "fuck it, let's just buy a game and put our dudes in it."
HOLY SHIT RIOT JUST HIRED SETH KILLIAN? Wow. That's kinda mind-blowing. And the Cannon brothers? I'm kind of worried now.
whooooooa
Woah what, I missed this but this huge! And crazy! I never thought we'd see Seth doing anything besides Street Fighter
It's not Seth I'm worried about, it's the Cannon brothers. As a loooong time FG player and sometime tournament organizer, it's well-known that the Cannon brothers actively discouraged outside participation of mainstream companies including MLG (and according to some sources, even Capcom) at one time in the FGC circuit. Their goal was to keep everything "grassroots" which really meant that everything was supposed to funnel into EVO as the premier FGC event. Seeing that the Cannon brothers own/operate/control EVO, you can see how all this bluster is just basically aimed at getting dollars into their own pockets.
Don't even get me started about the fucking highway robbery when it comes to EVO payouts. How does the winner of a 1600+ player tournament, each player paying in AT LEAST $10 per person only to have the winner walk away with only 1.5k? Ask Xian in 2013. I mean I'm even lowballing the buy-ins at $10. It was $10 in 2010 when I went, and I know for sure it went up in succeeding years.
Basically the Cannon brothers are shady, were enemies of esports and would have kept the FGC in the stone ages had not Capcom itself organized the Pro Tour.
That seems about right. 16,000 in revenue on entry. 3k or so total pot. Gotta pay venue fees and setup and support.
It only seems like a little because fixed costs are fixed.
I just played a ranked game where first person offers to first pick Nautilus for me. Yeah, sure, ok, and you want Irelia? No problem.
Oh hey and champ select is over, time to trade.
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time to trade
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shitttt dodge
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no too late countdown ended and I can't dodge
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OK time to play Irelia with exhaust and my tank support masteries. Oh god no time to check champion.gg for skill or build order. I tried to learn Irelia a year ago and totally failed...
Oh well bot lane is doing great with the stolen Nautilus; I'll just safely farm; it's Dr Mundo, and maybe I could aggress on him but I'm afraid and will just cs.
Oh hey jungler is ganking for me, I guess this happens when you play top lane, sweet I get a kill
HOLY SHIT RIOT JUST HIRED SETH KILLIAN? Wow. That's kinda mind-blowing. And the Cannon brothers? I'm kind of worried now.
whooooooa
Woah what, I missed this but this huge! And crazy! I never thought we'd see Seth doing anything besides Street Fighter
It's not Seth I'm worried about, it's the Cannon brothers. As a loooong time FG player and sometime tournament organizer, it's well-known that the Cannon brothers actively discouraged outside participation of mainstream companies including MLG (and according to some sources, even Capcom) at one time in the FGC circuit. Their goal was to keep everything "grassroots" which really meant that everything was supposed to funnel into EVO as the premier FGC event. Seeing that the Cannon brothers own/operate/control EVO, you can see how all this bluster is just basically aimed at getting dollars into their own pockets.
Don't even get me started about the fucking highway robbery when it comes to EVO payouts. How does the winner of a 1600+ player tournament, each player paying in AT LEAST $10 per person only to have the winner walk away with only 1.5k? Ask Xian in 2013. I mean I'm even lowballing the buy-ins at $10. It was $10 in 2010 when I went, and I know for sure it went up in succeeding years.
Basically the Cannon brothers are shady, were enemies of esports and would have kept the FGC in the stone ages had not Capcom itself organized the Pro Tour.
That seems about right. 16,000 in revenue on entry. 3k or so total pot. Gotta pay venue fees and setup and support.
It only seems like a little because fixed costs are fixed.
Nope. There was a registration fee on TOP of the buy-in.
I paid 30 for the registration, then 10 per game I played. We did the math, there were waaay too many entrants across multiple games for the buy-in to go to setup fees. This year it's almost 80 fucking dollars for the registration fee alone.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I don't know actually. Someone should run the numbers, since his attack speed growth got pushed hard (more than doubled).
Probably weaker earlier and stronger later because what else does riot do?
I think it's a net gain of one percent IAS at level eighteen. So technically yes, weaker earlier and stronger later off attack speed alone. It translates to a fairly large loss leading up to it beforehand, especially because all of his attack speed is doubled with W (even though that's not the entirety of his damage). Not sure how the on hit damage applies to his damage output.
The Riot fighting game: 15 different stages for playing in normals, but as soon as you start playing ranked you can only play one.
I could totally see a stage with a Demacia vs. Noxus battle raging in the background.
Let's be real. Only stage is gonna be sandbox- I mean training stage.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Shyvana nerfs? Really? I seriously cannot play a champ that gets left alone. Poppy, Pantheon, now Shyv. Jesus she sucks in low elo, man.
Shyvana
Twin Bite (Q) second hit's % of AD bonus physical damage lowered to 40/55/70/85/100% from 80/85/90/95/100%
Burnout (W) no longer deals extra 20% damage vs monsters.
She has almost no CC/utility and now lets nerf her burst and her clear. What do they expect her to actually be effective at? Devourer stacks harder to come by because of Harold stack nerf. It's like they want her to really only be relevant in late late game? So her early game sucks even more and may need to buy more damage?
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Don't play meta/popular champs, never run into this problem until they become popular.
Yeah. I played Panth before he was "meta" and now nerfs are here. Another PAer suggested her to me in the PA chatroom and I mean I'm objectively bad at her still and she's getting nerfed before I even get consistent results lol.
I just don't know what the nerfs are supposed to do aside from push her powerspikes back later and later into the game, which wouldn't be so bad if she had early pressure, but she isn't a strong ganker to begin with. I don't think she'll be unplayable, just slower and early clears will probably be less healthy for her.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Has Riot ever stated what audience they balance the game for? I know that professional play does sometimes get champions banned, but the great majority of players are not coordinated/skilled enough to make whats OP in pro circles OP in probably Bronze to Gold.
It's not like Shyvana has been tearing up the meta in LCK or LCS, she has a really good winrate in regular, high-elo play, but does that warrant nerfs according to whatever Riot looks at when making balancing decisions?
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Has Riot ever stated what audience they balance the game for? I know that professional play does sometimes get champions banned, but the great majority of players are not coordinated/skilled enough to make whats OP in pro circles OP in probably Bronze to Gold.
It's not like Shyvana has been tearing up the meta in LCK or LCS, she has a really good winrate in regular, high-elo play, but does that warrant nerfs according to whatever Riot looks at when making balancing decisions?
Riot's balancing philosophy is a weird thing that takes into account what's strong in competitive play, what's strong in uncoordinated play, what people are actively bitching about (e.g., a Rioter once pointed out that Wukong was phenomenally strong and had an absurd win rate, yet since nobody was complaining they were ignoring him) and to a lesser extent what sells a lot of skins.
Basically, assume that everything is a potential candidate for nerfs.
Ok, I know that all I can focus on is myself, but when my Thresh support not only doesn't land, but literally doesn't throw a single hook all laning phase, I have limits to how I feel that I could've done in the game.
Not to mention that he went Targon's, except hit each minion at about half health and then stopped AAing. He literally just pushed the lane without using the Targon's passive. And it would be great if there were less minions so he could hook, but he literally didn't throw a single hook.
1 out of 4 for the night. I ran into the fabled troll Tahm Kench for the first time tonight. Unfortunately we lost a critical teamfight after TK decided to eat me right before I was about to delete their mid carry for facechecking into us in midlane bush. Allowed mid to get away and regroup, and they turned on us and we lost the fight. He had been eating teammates randomly all game and I didnt mind the occasional devour when just clearing waves, but dude didn't even deny it when I asked him why he was trolling. Completely winnable game down the drain. Now I know what everyone was talking about when this was more common around his release. Hello zero lp my old friend. It's time for me to grind again.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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I thought Shyvana was secret OP for a while. She has the fastest clear that doesn't leave you with no health, can force every other enemy jungler to flash and recall at level 3, and does way too much damage with 2 items
Had a talon who pretty much the whole team fed because, I mean, feed talon, win.
That talon then starts yelling at the team because he keeps getting caught out split-pushing with no pressure anywhere else and no vision. Also he'll do things like get caught out, ping for help, die before help arrives, then yell at the team because "Why fight"
That might do it for the week actually, holy fuck that was a bad game.
Had a talon who pretty much the whole team fed because, I mean, feed talon, win.
That talon then starts yelling at the team because he keeps getting caught out split-pushing with no pressure anywhere else and no vision. Also he'll do things like get caught out, ping for help, die before help arrives, then yell at the team because "Why fight"
That might do it for the week actually, holy fuck that was a bad game.
Hey man, I don't know if you are in my elo, but if you are, care to party up? I think at least 2/5 on our team not being completely pants on head is better than 1/5. Plus I think we can definitely get a third PA guy to make the odds better.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Ok, I know that all I can focus on is myself, but when my Thresh support not only doesn't land, but literally doesn't throw a single hook all laning phase, I have limits to how I feel that I could've done in the game.
Not to mention that he went Targon's, except hit each minion at about half health and then stopped AAing. He literally just pushed the lane without using the Targon's passive. And it would be great if there were less minions so he could hook, but he literally didn't throw a single hook.
I've seen so much less of this since new champ select (the awful, awful, Threshes: "hey I got stuck with support so I think I'm going to play a mechanically challenging support despite my lack of proficiency at the champion and lack of knowledge of botlane dynamics. Also buy relic shield to mess with your wave control.") Sorry you got stuck with it!
Coin is the way to go on Thresh unless you are Remi or BunnyFufu or you know, just like actually good at Thresh. Absolutely not worth the mental effort of trying to lasthit when you should be working on lane control instead. Plus it's awesome to give yourself the Talisman of Ascension speed to get yourself into hook position.
That E on Aurelion is very interesting. I'm curious to see how it plays out in an actual game for sure.
e: Also Meowkai is the new best thing ever.
a tree, in a cat outfit..that throws cat bombs????
I am slain, this is what heaven feels like.
Don't forget the magic rainbow dash and the kittycat borders.
On a more serious note, how is Maokai now? I know he ate some nerfs some time ago and fell out of the meta but since I'm definitely going to pick up that skin I wonder if he would be a good fit for my preferred roles.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
That E on Aurelion is very interesting. I'm curious to see how it plays out in an actual game for sure.
e: Also Meowkai is the new best thing ever.
a tree, in a cat outfit..that throws cat bombs????
I am slain, this is what heaven feels like.
Don't forget the magic rainbow dash and the kittycat borders.
On a more serious note, how is Maokai now? I know he ate some nerfs some time ago and fell out of the meta but since I'm definitely going to pick up that skin I wonder if he would be a good fit for my preferred roles.
I mean, he's getting pro play top, so he can't be BAD, exactly.
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whooooooa
Woah what, I missed this but this huge! And crazy! I never thought we'd see Seth doing anything besides Street Fighter
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It's not Seth I'm worried about, it's the Cannon brothers. As a loooong time FG player and sometime tournament organizer, it's well-known that the Cannon brothers actively discouraged outside participation of mainstream companies including MLG (and according to some sources, even Capcom) at one time in the FGC circuit. Their goal was to keep everything "grassroots" which really meant that everything was supposed to funnel into EVO as the premier FGC event. Seeing that the Cannon brothers own/operate/control EVO, you can see how all this bluster is just basically aimed at getting dollars into their own pockets.
Don't even get me started about the fucking highway robbery when it comes to EVO payouts. How does the winner of a 1600+ player tournament, each player paying in AT LEAST $10 per person only to have the winner walk away with only 1.5k? Ask Xian in 2013. I mean I'm even lowballing the buy-ins at $10. It was $10 in 2010 when I went, and I know for sure it went up in succeeding years.
Basically the Cannon brothers are shady, were enemies of esports and would have kept the FGC in the stone ages had not Capcom itself organized the Pro Tour.
Here's an article on the whole thing.
performing well
when listening to awful anime techno music.
what
(i did it as a joke)
That seems about right. 16,000 in revenue on entry. 3k or so total pot. Gotta pay venue fees and setup and support.
It only seems like a little because fixed costs are fixed.
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Oh hey and champ select is over, time to trade.
...
time to trade
...
shitttt dodge
...
no too late countdown ended and I can't dodge
...
OK time to play Irelia with exhaust and my tank support masteries. Oh god no time to check champion.gg for skill or build order. I tried to learn Irelia a year ago and totally failed...
Oh well bot lane is doing great with the stolen Nautilus; I'll just safely farm; it's Dr Mundo, and maybe I could aggress on him but I'm afraid and will just cs.
Oh hey jungler is ganking for me, I guess this happens when you play top lane, sweet I get a kill
Oh looks like we're crushing teamfights
Guess we win!
So stressful though. I so don't play that lane or that champion.
Nope. There was a registration fee on TOP of the buy-in.
I paid 30 for the registration, then 10 per game I played. We did the math, there were waaay too many entrants across multiple games for the buy-in to go to setup fees. This year it's almost 80 fucking dollars for the registration fee alone.
Cause I would be ok with that.
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I think it's a net gain of one percent IAS at level eighteen. So technically yes, weaker earlier and stronger later off attack speed alone. It translates to a fairly large loss leading up to it beforehand, especially because all of his attack speed is doubled with W (even though that's not the entirety of his damage). Not sure how the on hit damage applies to his damage output.
The Riot fighting game: 15 different stages for playing in normals, but as soon as you start playing ranked you can only play one.
I could totally see a stage with a Demacia vs. Noxus battle raging in the background.
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Let's be real. Only stage is gonna be sandbox- I mean training stage.
Shyvana
Twin Bite (Q) second hit's % of AD bonus physical damage lowered to 40/55/70/85/100% from 80/85/90/95/100%
Burnout (W) no longer deals extra 20% damage vs monsters.
She has almost no CC/utility and now lets nerf her burst and her clear. What do they expect her to actually be effective at? Devourer stacks harder to come by because of Harold stack nerf. It's like they want her to really only be relevant in late late game? So her early game sucks even more and may need to buy more damage?
Yeah. I played Panth before he was "meta" and now nerfs are here. Another PAer suggested her to me in the PA chatroom and I mean I'm objectively bad at her still and she's getting nerfed before I even get consistent results lol.
I just don't know what the nerfs are supposed to do aside from push her powerspikes back later and later into the game, which wouldn't be so bad if she had early pressure, but she isn't a strong ganker to begin with. I don't think she'll be unplayable, just slower and early clears will probably be less healthy for her.
Wooo, -4 AD to her shield at level 1. Crazy shit.
It's not like Shyvana has been tearing up the meta in LCK or LCS, she has a really good winrate in regular, high-elo play, but does that warrant nerfs according to whatever Riot looks at when making balancing decisions?
i really should
To be fair, she did that before her recent buffs too. Katarina's passive is one of the most ridiculous abilities in the game.
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Riot's balancing philosophy is a weird thing that takes into account what's strong in competitive play, what's strong in uncoordinated play, what people are actively bitching about (e.g., a Rioter once pointed out that Wukong was phenomenally strong and had an absurd win rate, yet since nobody was complaining they were ignoring him) and to a lesser extent what sells a lot of skins.
Basically, assume that everything is a potential candidate for nerfs.
Not to mention that he went Targon's, except hit each minion at about half health and then stopped AAing. He literally just pushed the lane without using the Targon's passive. And it would be great if there were less minions so he could hook, but he literally didn't throw a single hook.
Had a talon who pretty much the whole team fed because, I mean, feed talon, win.
That talon then starts yelling at the team because he keeps getting caught out split-pushing with no pressure anywhere else and no vision. Also he'll do things like get caught out, ping for help, die before help arrives, then yell at the team because "Why fight"
That might do it for the week actually, holy fuck that was a bad game.
Hey man, I don't know if you are in my elo, but if you are, care to party up? I think at least 2/5 on our team not being completely pants on head is better than 1/5. Plus I think we can definitely get a third PA guy to make the odds better.
I've seen so much less of this since new champ select (the awful, awful, Threshes: "hey I got stuck with support so I think I'm going to play a mechanically challenging support despite my lack of proficiency at the champion and lack of knowledge of botlane dynamics. Also buy relic shield to mess with your wave control.") Sorry you got stuck with it!
Coin is the way to go on Thresh unless you are Remi or BunnyFufu or you know, just like actually good at Thresh. Absolutely not worth the mental effort of trying to lasthit when you should be working on lane control instead. Plus it's awesome to give yourself the Talisman of Ascension speed to get yourself into hook position.
a tree, in a cat outfit..that throws cat bombs????
I am slain, this is what heaven feels like.
Don't forget the magic rainbow dash and the kittycat borders.
On a more serious note, how is Maokai now? I know he ate some nerfs some time ago and fell out of the meta but since I'm definitely going to pick up that skin I wonder if he would be a good fit for my preferred roles.
I mean, he's getting pro play top, so he can't be BAD, exactly.
Play Poppy