[League of Legends]RIP Dominion 2011-2016. You will be missed (by Talith)

PrjctD_Captain

OP Credits for this, the most stolen of OP's

This OP was originally created by one Bobkins Flymo, who is now being credited for his work before his lawyers find this page.

This OP is shamelessly stolen from Hiryu, so that we may have a new one before it gets locked again. May the op never be made anew!

This Op is stolen from Roz, who I believe in turn stole it from Burnage.

This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

In loving memory of Dyrus. Pro player: 2010-2015.

League of Legends (popularly known as LOL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game created by Riot Games.

You play as a summoner that controls a champion and looks forward to replays for half a decade. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, you will wait several months for new champions and your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization, and rank up champions with the Mastery system for an emote. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches, meaninglessly judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal and weep over the lack of ranked Dominion.

Thread Layout
OP - The Basics - General LoL Tips and Tricks
2nd - PENTAKILL! - If I get around to it/if people post Pentas in thread ever

The Basics

New Player Guide. For those who want some tips to start out.

1. Make an account: NA EU(West) EU(Nordic & East) Ociania, wherever you are located in the world!

It's worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would recommend asking for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here.

The official Mac client is in live! Go play!

3. Play the tutorials and read the New User Guide!

The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with!

Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each champion.

5. Play vs. People

Do it, damn you. The AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches. If you do use bot games, focus on practicing basic mechanics such as getting the last hit on minions for sweet, sweet gold.

6. Get yer free champs.

Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! You can also get a free Tristana skins if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you've not already bought them, so this is an easy way to pick up two champions.

Want some more help? Watch these! And don't be afraid to ask questions in thread! Most of us have been playing for a long time, so we may skim over some stuff we consider basics. This is to make you feel bad! Its just that we forget what its like to be all new at this game

The basics of solo lane in 1 minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-91al_z8Szs

Want to give jungle a try? Heres some tips and info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSQ33KEDUk

A bit dated, but if you want some pointers on teamfights, check here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzzC0k2Dgto

The Dos and Don'ts of LoL

1. Don't buy champions randomly!

LoL has two currencies: Riot Points (RP), which are bought with real money, and Influence Points (IP) which are earned solely by playing games. Champions can be bought with both, but every week there will be ten free champions to play with. Play these champs instead. Get a feel for each type of champion and see which you find more fun. It's far better to do this as opposed to buying a champ randomly and ultimately being unhappy with it. You can also get three refund opportunities for both IP and RP purchases.

2. Don't buy Tier 2 Runes.

They are pretty much a waste of IP. Buy Tier 1 and save up for Tier 3. Or, if you're baller like Hargaad, don't even buy Tier 1. Wait to hit level 30, then buy all the Tier 3 runes you need. Ask in thread if you are unsure what to buy.

3. Do queue with friends.

Playing with randoms is a crapshoot, and playing with a friend or two can put the odds in your favor. Play complementary champs and request feedback on how you did in each game (even if you won). Likewise, you can offer advice to others you saw having trouble in a polite manner.

4. Do learn the champions.

When a new rotation occurs, it is wise to play a few games with each champ. Knowing what each champ is capable of will be useful even if you hate how they play and never intend on using them. For example, Karthus has a skill that does damage to every enemy champion, regardless of location! If you know this, then you can be a jerk and take Soraka (who has a skill that heals all allied champions).

5. Do read guides.

There are multiple ways to play a champion. This combination of skills, runes, masteries and items is called a "build" and are the general strategies for any champion. The recommended items in the game store are not always ideal, and the order you level skills can have a big impact on how the early stages of the game play out. Sites like LolKing and Solomid offer builds for just about every champion. It's cookie-cutter, but a great foundation for new players. Once you learn the ins and outs, you can tweak a build to better serve your playstyles or as a reaction to enemy or ally players.

6. Do be polite and do report.

Sometimes people will suck or do shit wrong. It's a game, so try to keep that in mind when things get a little unhinged. If you insult or yell at people, even if they did do something wrong, you're likely going to get that person defensive and things will very quickly begin to break down. Instead of focusing on the game, you focus on hurling insults at each other. Stay calm, and politely offer advice when needed.

Sometimes, even with this in mind, people will still be jerks. It happens! Simply /mute them and quietly report them after the game. Taking their bait is probably what they want you to do. Do not give them the satisfaction! Keep your cool.

7. Buy skins.

Having a skin for a character is a great way to say "Hey I'm fucking awesome with this champion so get the fuck out of my way." If your team is using more skins than your enemy team, you basically have already won. Some skins do offer very minor alterations in the way that a champion plays - skins with sunglasses, for instance, take 1 less damage from the sun-based champion Leona's attacks.

Game Stuff

1. Do not be aggressive.

There will be a serious urge to want to kill enemy champs. Resist! Death is an all-around loss: your opponents get more cash and experience, you miss out on experience and your lane risks getting pushed. If you set-up a kill and fail, do not continue chasing. In many cases, you will just die to a tower or get ganked. While later on you will learn when to take risks, early in your career it's best to be less aggressive and just let the other guy get away.

2. Do not focus on KDR.

Your kill-death-ratio is not the end-all of your value. It is possible to lose despite having a serious kill advantage over the enemy team! Certain champions, once getting the right items, can be unstoppable murder machines. Even if you do kill them a lot, if they reach this threshold, it's possible for a dramatic reversal to occur. It is far more important to support your team's objectives: push towers, protect your own towers from being pushed and keep your team informed of enemy activity. It is far better to have a modest KDR and win, than be the team killer and lose.

3. Do watch the minimap and your enemy.

Enemy locations are important! In your low-level games you will likely have two champs tops lane, one mid and two bottom (in later level games, one from top will be off "jungling," so top will have just one champ). If a player in YOUR lane is missing, let the team know. The player might just be heading back to base to buy items, or they could be trying to jump your friend in another lane. And mention when they came back to your lane! But this doesn't mean you should rely wholly on team recon. Watch the minimap yourself for enemy locations in other lanes whenever you can. People aren't perfect, and sometimes that warning comes a bit too late. Another set of eyes is always useful.

4. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big-reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS.

5. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS. Yes, I posted this twice. It is that important.

6. Do something.

So you just wiped the enemy team out. Hooray! But...what are you doing now? Did you just go back to your respective lanes and farm? Incorrect! You now have precious map control, and should be taking advantage of it. Gather up as a team and take out a tower. Head to the dragon and get a clean kill. Steal enemy creeps (especially their blue and red buffs). You can always check the status of both teams by pressing tab. If multiple enemies are waiting on respawn, then you need to press that advantage.

7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.



8. Do buy wards.

Seriously, kids. If Hargaad can do it, so can you. I know you have 75 gold just laying around sometimes. Don't feed us with your bullshit of, "But I need to save for x item!" No! Fuck you, and your high horse. If you don't buy wards, and you die a lot, nobody on your team is going to be able to save you from a beefed up (whatever) lane. Upgrading your yellow trinket can help too, but there is no substitution for vision. Buy wards!

9. Learn to speak ping.

All you really need to communicate effectively in this game is to be able to use the pings it provides.

To use these pings, hold down the Alt, Ctrl, G, or V keys while clicking to show the new ping overlay. Then, move your mouse in the direction of the ping you want to issue, and release. You can perform this action either on the terrain or the minimap for precision pinging.
It is unacceptable to blame players that aren't typing at all, or players that are not speaking in English.:

Meet the Team

Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Marksman:
Examples include Caitlyn, Ezreal, Ashe and Vayne.

If your team is a car, then the marksman is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The marksman, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the marksman relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, however, marksmen tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs.

2. The Tank:
Examples include Leona, Sejuani, Zac and Nautilus.

Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up.

3. The Support:
Examples include Soraka, Sona, Nami and Janna.

I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either way, supports help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Supports tend to assist the marksman by allowing the marksman to stay in the lane longer. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, supports don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit.

4. The Assassin:
Examples include Kha'zix, Talon, Zed and Evelynn.

If we're sticking with the car metaphor, the assassin is like your car having a button you can press which will make that other car's engine implode. Assassins generally specialise in high single-target damage and mobility, allowing them to quickly eliminate enemy marksmen and mages with ease. If you're playing as a squishy and vulnerable target, these guys are going to be your biggest threat - ask your team to try and keep them from harming you. Assassins also generally need to get kills early in order to stay competitive into the later stages of the game.

5. The Mage:
Examples include Brand, Syndra, Lux and Annie.

Mages are a broad category, with their defining feature being that they primarily deal damage at range through their abilities and not auto-attacks. Some, like Lissandra, focus less on dealing damage and more on being able to control the enemy team's movement. Others, like Brand or Ziggs, have relatively less utility and are instead capable of putting out high amounts of damage. Mages benefit strongly from their role's innate flexibility, and can have a huge impact on team fights.

6. The Fighter:
Examples include Garen, Renekton, Trundle and Vi.

Fighters are melee attackers with a mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. They're not as hard to kill as a tank, and not able to throw out as much damage as an assassin, but they can still prove to be fearsome opponents - especially if they stay alive and are allowed to deal their damage over time. Like mages, the fighter role is incredibly versatile, with each fighter having a different mixture of damage and utility.

7. The Jungler:
Examples include Warwick, Udyr, Xin Zhao and Jarvan IV.

Although not a label Riot applies to their champions, the jungler is a role that you'll begin to see at higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible during lower levels on a few champs, even at summoner level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle (the parts of the map in between lanes) and kills neutral creeps (or "monsters"). This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide, and is only a rough outline of the basics! Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Ezreal is a marksman/mage, for instance, and Taric is a support/tank.:

What's this I hear about different maps?

There are four different maps in League of Legends, each of which has a different style of gameplay. In some cases, different items will be available on each of them, and champions might be altered slightly.

1. Summoner's Rift.

This is the most well-known map, and what you'll probably be spending most of your time on. Featuring five players on each team, the goal is to destroy the enemy's team base (or nexus). Waves of friendly NPCs ("minions") will attempt to help you reach your objective, although standing in their way are increasingly strong sets of turrets (alongside the enemy team and their minions). In between the lanes which your minions will travel along are neutral monsters which you can destroy for more gold. There are also two very large monsters, the dragon and Baron Nashor, which can require your entire team attacking them to be taken down - but the rewards for doing so are great.

2. The Howling Abyss.

The simplest map, this is essentially a single lane version of Summoner's Rift. Five players on each team control a randomly chosen character, and aim to destroy the enemy team's nexus first. Things are made more complicated by the players being unable to buy items, unless it's the start of the game or they've recently died. This map also has creatures called Poros roaming it, making it the best map by default.

Recently the Howling Abyss underwent a pirate makeover! It is now Butchers Bay. No special gimmicks or anything, just a new look for an old friend.

3. The Crystal Scar.

This is the only map for the game mode known as "Dominion". Again a 5v5 mode, the novelty here is that the map features control points that players must "capture" and hold onto in order to win. There are five control points, and the team that holds less of them slowly lose health from their nexus - until it reaches zero, and they lose. Dotted around the map are speed boosts and health packs. The basic strategy for Dominion involves sending four players to the top point, and one strong duelist or pusher to the bottom lane of the map. Tip; take Revive.

Dominion is never going to receive a ranked mode. It is also the best.

4. The Twisted Treeline.

The 3v3 gametype known as Twisted Treeline was fully launched in March 2010, but it was relaunched with an entirely new map in October 2012 because of some serious design flaws in the original map that Riot decided were unfixable. The new map is still in beta, but will be exiting beta Soon™. However, 3v3 still at least gets more support than Dominion. While still fundamentally the same gameplay, there are some key differences from Summoner's Rift to keep in mind - the lack of wards and altered objectives being the most important. Much more info here!

Other useful LoL related websites!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/ - For all the latest LoL news and a sneak peak at any upcoming content on the Public Beta Environment.
http://www.solomid.net/ - A more advanced and polished version of Mobafire. Solomid offers intricate guides on champs that've been tried and tested by the community. Best for more advanced players of lvl 20+
http://www.lolking.net/ - A site useful for looking at skins, as their splash art can be quite different from their in-game appearance. It's also good for looking up summoners, statistics about the game, and guides for champions.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com - The standard LoL website! Info on the game can be found here.
http://www.probuilds.net/ - Wonder what the Pros build on your favorite champ? Check here! Just remember that these guys are pros and you should always try to find whatever build works best for you!
http://champion.gg/ - Wonder how other top players (Plat and higher in ranked) build their champs? Check here!

Dunks?

Dunks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GK_zO4s-1k

Stuff You Should Know
- Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
- Some promo codes will work on multiple servers. Some will not. Yes, this is confusing.
- Map vision wins games - BUY WARDS.
- It is a team wide effort, everyone buys wards.
- When in doubt, take Ignite/Flash.

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PrjctD_Captain

Edit post in case of Penta

Hiryu02

Wha?

PrjctD_Captain

What? Am I not allowed to change the example for what would happen should shipping chat break out?

Khavall

PrjctD_Captain wrote: »

What? Am I not allowed to change the example for what would happen should shipping chat break out?

All I'm going to say is if Pool Party Twisted Fate comes out and we don't have a spray bottle ready for Talith, we're all blaming you.

Khavall

I feel like every time I play tank junglers I have a lot of fun for like a week, love playing them, and then have one game that doesn't do great and swear off jungle forever because my team is full of people who blame the jungler.

Then I play ADC and top hyper-tanks for a while, then slowly return to jungle. Then love it for like a week

And the cycle completes.

Exarch

I'm the opposite. Get on a win streak, fail horribly, blame myself and retreat to bot games to work on my mechanics. Losses are always my fault in my mind. (Support main/am strange)

Burnage

I totally stole this OP from some non-Bobkins people.

I can't remember who so no credit for you.

Talith

Khavall wrote: »

PrjctD_Captain wrote: »

What? Am I not allowed to change the example for what would happen should shipping chat break out?

All I'm going to say is if Pool Party Twisted Fate comes out and we don't have a spray bottle ready for Talith, we're all blaming you.

Twisted Fate?

Talith

Zilean passive change. Now you pick and choose when you want a teammate to level up.

"It's time for time!

Zilean's passive has been a weak point for a while now, and his Q had numerous little things that felt "off" about it. Those are past-tense sentiments. When the PBE updates, the new stuff will be in! This update is all about visceral satisfaction. The Q should feel better to use and the passive gives allies XP in a much more hands-on way. If any of you fine folks have the chance to check it out on the PBE, I'd love to hear what you think!

For Time Bomb, we've updated the attach logic, tweaked the animation timing, given it a new attach particle, fixed a bug where it would appear to 'flicker' on landing, and generally made the way it interacts with the game world more consistent and satisfying. None of these changes by themselves are likely to stand out, but taken together they should improve the experience of using Time Bomb significantly.
For the passive, it's new! Behold!

Time in a Bottle
Zilean stores time as Experience at a rate of X per 5 seconds.
When he has enough Experience to finish an ally's level, he can right-click them to impart it. Zilean receives as much Experience as he gives. Cannot be used in combat.

Does what it says on the tin. While the passive is off cooldown, Zilean sees indicators letting him know how much more XP he needs to finish someone's level; when he has enough, there's a line indicator to show him he can activate it. Hi-five a level into your buddies! Zilean gains the same XP as he gives and banks XP faster the higher level he is, so he wants to use it as often as he can. By being higher level mid lane he has slightly more XP to hand out, by being with an ADC bot lane he has persistent access to an ally. At level 18 Zilean no longer needs any XP for himself so the amount he gifts his allies effectively doubles.

These changes help establish Zilean's identity, both thematically and in gameplay. Thematically, Zilean's typically had a lot of interesting and unique elements, but has fallen short of the epic power expressive of time magic. Some of his spells do reach that height--Chronoshift, the Time Bomb stun, and to a lesser extent the 99% value on Time Warp. By giving him direct, visceral control over one of the fundamental forces of the game, he solidifies the stature that befits him as a time mage.

In gameplay, Zilean's support side excels against assassins/divers and in a protect the carry role; in this, he is typically overshadowed by Lulu, who shares his solo/bot switch capability and who can defend her ADC without the dps interruption that Chronoshift's revive brings. His utility mage side often overlaps with Orianna, a perennial generalist who can provide utility from a carry role and who also capitalizes on melee teammates. Between these two, Zilean's unique elements are his superior synergy with juggernauts via Time Warp, his amazing lategame control scaling, his massive zone control (compared to Lulu), and his mid-game roaming (compared to Orianna).

Time in a Bottle gives him a capability that's totally unique in its own right and further accents the things that separate him from other champs. Juggernauts typically care about levels much more than ADCs and the passive rewards him for roaming. It won't solve all of Zilean's challenges, but it helps the time mage float in the right direction.

Lastly, we've added a rec item page for mid; players can toggle between the mid and support rec items by clicking the down arrow on the tab title. The mid page displays by default--generally, the newer players are the ones who use rec items and mid lane is a much more forgiving place to play the Zilsta.

Foxy grandpa indeed. All this stuff will be on the PBE soon, I'm especially eager to hear how the changes feel in live games!"
When asked about the passive not being able to be used in combat, he clarified:

"It only counts whether Zilean is in combat, and combat with minions doesn't count."

credeiki

Huh. Can you use it to hit lvl 2 first, do you think, or will there not be enough xp stored by then?

vagrant_winds

That feel when people Kill Secure your 'about to be dead in less than a second' kills as Vlad that have both Ult and Ignite ticking on them with less than 100 health.

That feel when your team's support keeps doing this, that you swear it's on purpose.

Talith

I would absolutely do it on purpose, because ending his life now before he can do even a single point more of damage matters to me, and all gold should flow to me whenever possible.

The only time I let it tick is when it doesn't matter, the game is won, let them slowly burn away knowing they have been beaten.

Jookie

https://youtu.be/G65oiTRwqDs
He really is the best champion.

Talith

Tiny is a pretty good example of what happens when you can relocate teammates. That's why TK's chomp lets you choose where you are re-positioned, but it doesn't help if you aren't paying attention.

vagrant_winds

Talith wrote: »

I would absolutely do it on purpose, because ending his life now before he can do even a single point more of damage matters to me, and all gold should flow to me whenever possible.

The only time I let it tick is when it doesn't matter, the game is won, let them slowly burn away knowing they have been beaten.

I mean, I wasn't mad. I even find it funny. But it's like, come on man.

credeiki

Talith wrote: »

Tiny is a pretty good example of what happens when you can relocate teammates. That's why TK's chomp lets you choose where you are re-positioned, but it doesn't help if you aren't paying attention.

I don't actually understand how this works. If you are eaten by an allied TK, you can't escape early (right?) but clicking in a direction should release you in that direction? Or does it work in a different way?

Talith

Allied champions can exit at will by right clicking where they want to go.

Red Raevyn

Talith wrote: »

Allied champions can exit at will by right clicking where they want to go.

Well hell I didn't know that! I've never had an allied TK either though.
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This is the definition of self-control to me. If I was the Jinx off-screen I would not have been able to resist going in for more delicious kills.

I know it's stupid but but but they're SO low!

Talith

I don't know what the state of that game was but looking at it I see two assassins with enough mana to drop full rotations on a greedy marksman.

Sir Landshark

Talith wrote: »

I don't know what the state of that game was but looking at it I see two assassins with enough mana to drop full rotations on a greedy marksman.

The marksman was fed as hell but wisely chose to disengage and go B.

Styrofoam Sammich

So that new Zilean passive.

Jookie

The best thing is eating an ally to not only help yourself catch up but to bring in someone beefy faster too. And instead they just choose to be spat out asap and it just wastes my mana.

Or panic out of my belly and that assassin I was saving them from? I can't stun it quick enough to save your dumb ass again.

credeiki

Talith wrote: »

I don't know what the state of that game was but looking at it I see two assassins with enough mana to drop full rotations on a greedy marksman.

I think it's from Fnatic vs AHQ? At that point, if I recall, ahq Jinx was very fed but Febiven LeBlanc was also really quite fed and I would assume capable of oneshotting, especially with Shen still there to maybe get off a taunt.

Obviously I'd go in and try to kill them all and die in the process and that is (a reason) why I am not on ahq.

Red Raevyn

credeiki wrote: »

Talith wrote: »

I don't know what the state of that game was but looking at it I see two assassins with enough mana to drop full rotations on a greedy marksman.

I think it's from Fnatic vs AHQ? At that point, if I recall, ahq Jinx was very fed but Febiven LeBlanc was also really quite fed and I would assume capable of oneshotting, especially with Shen still there to maybe get off a taunt.

Obviously I'd go in and try to kill them all and die in the process and that is (a reason) why I am not on ahq.

Exactly lol. I think I went through 4 cycles of "well they'd kill me" and "but I only need to hit them once!" just thinking about it after.

Joshmvii

The Leblanc has flash up. There's no outplay potential for Jinx. As soon as she becomes visible the Leblanc kills her. 60% HP Jinx is dead from just QW, maybe even just W alone at that point of the game. Or she gets hit by an elise cocoon and dies inside the stun.

Sure, we'd all greed for it in solo queue, but if you look at the death timers if the jinx dies there it might have meant the end of the game for his team.

Goumindong

It's the stun to worry about. LB can't kill her with a w because w is a linear dash and she will collide with jinxs auto before doing damage.

Joshmvii

Well if the LB has vision of the Jinx then the Jinx is in danger from 1200 units, and I wouldn't want to count on managing to shoot her before the mimicked W kills me, if the Jinx would even have vision to see it coming.

Sir Landshark

Goumindong wrote: »

It's the stun to worry about. LB can't kill her with a w because w is a linear dash and she will collide with jinxs auto before doing damage.

If only her first W was a blink

*stares wistfully off into the sunset*

PMAvers

Karthus sits in the stands, wishing he was in that game so he could mash R so hard.

Talith

Wait what QSS lets you escape TK's belly AND avoid the damage? Why haven't I known about this sooner?

Goumindong

Joshmvii wrote: »

Well if the LB has vision of the Jinx then the Jinx is in danger from 1200 units, and I wouldn't want to count on managing to shoot her before the mimicked W kills me, if the Jinx would even have vision to see it coming.

Doesn't even matter so long as you're using attack move. The instant LB appears in vision the attack queues and LB dashes into the projectile.

Red Raevyn

Ooh ooh, just checked on the PA picks pepperonis, and although I overestimated TSM & CLG (this is what happens when you don't watch anything but NA during the season) my hopes for Fnatic paid off - I'm #1! Woo *insert trash talk*

Knockout stage though... I don't think Fnatic will beat EDG but I really want them to. Flash Wolves v Origen seems like a kinda tough call too.

I needed anime to post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9eJuE-fQI

PrjctD_Captain

Hey, Jinx, Pandora called, they want their guns back.

Sterica

I don't recognize that hero. Is she from a Starcraft or something?

Penumbra

That is a fantastic skin, but I'm flaming garbage at any ADC.

Albino Bunny

Kindred is good.

I really need to practice with her but she's super interesting to play. Seems to do respectable enough damage even when built with a bruiser item or two in there for defense.

vagrant_winds

My lane enemy TF Ults and TP tower dives our bot lane twice, getting murdered by Thresh and/or Jungle Lee CC both times. Then promptly ragequits the game at lvl6 2/2/0.

...Thanks for the free farm I guess? And for feeding my bottom lane? What possesses someone to ragequit over their own mistakes?

Talith

Because they probably felt bottom lane was responsible for not following up on their brilliant play.

credeiki

Albino Bunny wrote: »

Kindred is good.

I really need to practice with her but she's super interesting to play. Seems to do respectable enough damage even when built with a bruiser item or two in there for defense.

Is Kindred out or are you playing on the PBE?