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Atomika
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It's already upon us.
Like the stupid gazelle in the herd, we were blissfully drinking from the stream and not paying any attention to the oncoming ripples, when suddenly . . . .BAM!
Unhinging his massive jaws, Harvey Weinstein strikes. His girth is enough to bring down a grown water buffalo, and our fate is sealed, dragged down to a watery death and the forgone release of weepy period dramas.
It's just heating up, so the field is wide open. The OP will whittle the contenders down when they come out and prove to be false, as only the most fit and well-promoted will survive. But for now, let's talk about what's already out, what's coming out soon, and how awful the media coverage for this part of the year always is. Here's a great link to all the trailers and release dates for this year.
The potential nominees are:
- The Martian
- The Walk
- Steve Jobs
- Bridge of Spies
- Crimson Peak
- Sicario
- Brooklyn
- By the Sea
- The 33
- Secret in Their Eyes
- Macbeth
- Youth
- Concussion
- Joy
- The Hateful 8
- The Revenant
- Grandma
- Black Mass
- Everest
- Beasts of No Nation
- Experimenter
- Truth
- Suffragette
- Carol
- Our Brand is Crisis
- Spotlight
- The Danish Girl
So that's my early list for this season. Do you think something should be added? Maybe something already should be removed? Can some popular crowdpleasers join the ranks, like Fury Road or Star Wars? It'll be interesting to see. Discuss it all here over the next few months, and we'll see who's right and who ain't when the dust settles.
Oh, and if you're looking for animated stuff, take it to the animation thread if you don't mind, thank ya kindly.
Like the stupid gazelle in the herd, we were blissfully drinking from the stream and not paying any attention to the oncoming ripples, when suddenly . . . .BAM!
Unhinging his massive jaws, Harvey Weinstein strikes. His girth is enough to bring down a grown water buffalo, and our fate is sealed, dragged down to a watery death and the forgone release of weepy period dramas.
It's just heating up, so the field is wide open. The OP will whittle the contenders down when they come out and prove to be false, as only the most fit and well-promoted will survive. But for now, let's talk about what's already out, what's coming out soon, and how awful the media coverage for this part of the year always is. Here's a great link to all the trailers and release dates for this year.
The potential nominees are:
- The Martian
- The Walk
- Steve Jobs
- Bridge of Spies
- Crimson Peak
- Sicario
- Brooklyn
- By the Sea
- The 33
- Secret in Their Eyes
- Macbeth
- Youth
- Concussion
- Joy
- The Hateful 8
- The Revenant
- Grandma
- Black Mass
- Everest
- Beasts of No Nation
- Experimenter
- Truth
- Suffragette
- Carol
- Our Brand is Crisis
- Spotlight
- The Danish Girl
So that's my early list for this season. Do you think something should be added? Maybe something already should be removed? Can some popular crowdpleasers join the ranks, like Fury Road or Star Wars? It'll be interesting to see. Discuss it all here over the next few months, and we'll see who's right and who ain't when the dust settles.
Oh, and if you're looking for animated stuff, take it to the animation thread if you don't mind, thank ya kindly.
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Dear Academy, would you kindly go fuck yourself?
Still, Sam Jackson deserved one for Hateful Eight, so yes, the Academy still sucks.
I think the Creed one looks particularly bad because it starred a black dude and was directed by a black dude, but the nomination went to Sylvester Stallone.
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I checked makeup, too, but apparently even Kurt Russell's mustache got snubbed.
Too bad it was so far off the mark, though.
It did, though, for Supporting Actress.
Revenant should probably win for makeup
Ah, missed that.
Is there a reason she was supporting actress and not actress? How is that defined?
Though I guess that violates the Best/Most thing.
Pretty much arbitrary. Hopkins won actor not supporting actor for Silence of the Lambs, and he had 16 minutes of screen time in a 138 minute movie. So she definitely cleared that bar.
Edit: wait, this isn't just the Academy Awards? Oh, well put me down for Mad Max for everything anyway.
Did 'Beasts of No Nation' get a theatrical release? Or did the Academy view it as essentially another made-for-HBO movie (yes, I know it's Netflix, but HBO Originals is the closest historical comparison)?
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A limited one, yes (to be eligible for the Oscars, you only need to open in NY or LA within the calendar year.)
I didn't think he was really all that good in Creed.
Has anyone seen Beasts of No Nation(The Idris Elba movie)? Was it good? I only just heard of it now, and reading a synopsis it seems like it should have been pure Oscar bait.
It would be nice to see more women nominated for roles that aren't biopics, period dramas, or just being sad/sick/mentally afflicted.
Every year at least a few on the male nominees have roles that are like "man that must have been a fun thing to do".
e: If for no greater reason, than it would cut a bunch of slow depressing slogs from my yearly Oscar binge watching. "Ohh wow yep she really did convey the life of an upper class British aristocrat with an alcoholic husband even better then the 7 other women this year. Not sure if she was as good as last year, when she was dying of tuberculous as a lower class 1800s British housewife though"
Hence why snubbing Theron is so problematic - Furiosa was that sort of role, and she nailed it to the front of her war rig and paraded it around.
They were good enough. But that's not necessarily what earns you a spot!
Academy is dumb.
No, the Academy is hidebound, overly monochromatic and homogeneous, and old.
And dumb.
Is this Dark Knight all over again?
But Charlize got snubbed. I guess it's all JLaw all the time these days.
Mad Max did get best picture and 10 other nods.
So no, however Theron did get snubbed. Her role as Furiosa was one of those career best, knock it out of the park and show others how its done parts.
If you are not an actress/writer and not get inspired by Theron in Fury Road, find another profession.
Tom Hardy probably got shut out due to his nod for Revenant.
It is like how there is almost no chance in hell of an animated movie winning Best Picture.
This site gives a decent overview:
http://www.filmsite.org/bestpics2.html
Greatest Show On Earth basically won best picture in 1952 because all the good movies were made by people on the blacklist or would soon be on the blacklist and because it was basically a lifetime achievement award for Cecil B. DeMille.
Whoops, didn't notice the OP was from October. Just went by that list.
See, that's the truth this year, and it shouldn't become something where a minority has to be represented in the running each year, which is almost how the best picture feels set up by throwing out a token comedy movie and actionish movie to make it look like they aren't just going to English Patient us all to death with boredom.
And I think the lack of Jackson, Russell, and Goggins (who deserves it more than anyone) along with the list really shows cutting off Tarantino in general.
Anyway, Winslett will win easily for best supporting actress, and I hope Larson wins because she's a much better talent than Lawrence has been on the whole for their careers and we need another good American actress out there to defend our shores from people who spell color wrong and say aluminum weird.
Like I wrote in the movie thread, I bet this year best actor is DiCaprios, and supporting will be Stallone since they didn't have the balls to nominate Benecio Del Toro for Sicario, as Tom Hardy becomes the next good actor to be screwed over constantly. Maybe Cranston has a chance because he's always solid and is also in a movie about hollywood masturbating to their past how great they are and people substitute him for the usual Tom Hanks nod, and perhaps if they split the vote between DiCaprio and Damon he wins.
A lot of good points about why, exactly, the Academy sucks.
“The Big Short”
“Bridge of Spies”
“Brooklyn”
“Mad Max: Fury Road”
“The Martian”
“The Revenant”
“Room”
“Spotlight”
Performance by an actor in a leading role:
Bryan Cranston in “Trumbo”
Matt Damon in “The Martian”
Leonardo DiCaprio in “The Revenant”
Michael Fassbender in “Steve Jobs”
Eddie Redmayne in “The Danish Girl”
Performance by an actress in a leading role:
Cate Blanchett in “Carol”
Brie Larson in “Room”
Jennifer Lawrence in “Joy”
Charlotte Rampling in “45 Years”
Saoirse Ronan in “Brooklyn”
Performance by an actor in a supporting role:
Christian Bale in “The Big Short”
Tom Hardy in “The Revenant”
Mark Ruffalo in “Spotlight”
Mark Rylance in “Bridge of Spies”
Sylvester Stallone in “Creed”
Performance by an actress in a supporting role:
Jennifer Jason Leigh in “The Hateful Eight”
Rooney Mara in “Carol”
Rachel McAdams in “Spotlight”
Alicia Vikander in “The Danish Girl”
Kate Winslet in “Steve Jobs”
Achievement in directing:
“The Big Short” Adam McKay
“Mad Max: Fury Road” George Miller
“The Revenant” Alejandro G. Iñárritu
“Room” Lenny Abrahamson
“Spotlight” Tom McCarthy
Adapted screenplay:
“The Big Short” Screenplay by Charles Randolph and Adam McKay
“Brooklyn” Screenplay by Nick Hornby
“Carol” Screenplay by Phyllis Nagy
“The Martian” Screenplay by Drew Goddard
“Room” Screenplay by Emma Donoghue
Original screenplay:
“Bridge of Spies” Written by Matt Charman and Ethan Coen & Joel Coen
“Ex Machina” Written by Alex Garland
“Inside Out” Screenplay by Pete Docter, Meg LeFauve, Josh Cooley; Original story by Pete Docter, Ronnie del Carmen
“Spotlight” Written by Josh Singer & Tom McCarthy
“Straight Outta Compton” Screenplay by Jonathan Herman and Andrea Berloff; Story by S. Leigh Savidge & Alan Wenkus and Andrea Berloff
Best animated feature film of the year:
“Anomalisa” Charlie Kaufman, Duke Johnson and Rosa Tran
“Boy and the World” Alê Abreu
“Inside Out” Pete Docter and Jonas Rivera
“Shaun the Sheep Movie” Mark Burton and Richard Starzak
“When Marnie Was There” Hiromasa Yonebayashi and Yoshiaki Nishimura
Best documentary feature:
“Amy” Asif Kapadia and James Gay-Rees
“Cartel Land” Matthew Heineman and Tom Yellin
“The Look of Silence” Joshua Oppenheimer and Signe Byrge Sørensen
“What Happened, Miss Simone?” Liz Garbus, Amy Hobby and Justin Wilkes
“Winter on Fire: Ukraine’s Fight for Freedom” Evgeny Afineevsky and Den Tolmor
Best foreign language film of the year:
“Embrace of the Serpent” Colombia
“Mustang” France
“Son of Saul” Hungary
“Theeb” Jordan
“A War” Denmark
Achievement in cinematography:
“Carol” Ed Lachman
“The Hateful Eight” Robert Richardson
“Mad Max: Fury Road” John Seale
“The Revenant” Emmanuel Lubezki
“Sicario” Roger Deakins
Achievement in costume design:
“Carol” Sandy Powell
“Cinderella” Sandy Powell
“The Danish Girl” Paco Delgado
“Mad Max: Fury Road” Jenny Beavan
“The Revenant” Jacqueline West
Achievement in film editing:
“The Big Short” Hank Corwin
“Mad Max: Fury Road” Margaret Sixel
“The Revenant” Stephen Mirrione
“Spotlight” Tom McArdle
“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” Maryann Brandon and Mary Jo Markey
Achievement in makeup and hairstyling:
“Mad Max: Fury Road” Lesley Vanderwalt, Elka Wardega and Damian Martin
“The 100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed out the Window and Disappeared” Love Larson and Eva von Bahr
“The Revenant” Siân Grigg, Duncan Jarman and Robert Pandini
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score):
“Bridge of Spies” Thomas Newman
“Carol” Carter Burwell
“The Hateful Eight” Ennio Morricone
“Sicario” Jóhann Jóhannsson
“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” John Williams
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song):
“Earned It” from “Fifty Shades of Grey”
Music and Lyric by Abel Tesfaye, Ahmad Balshe, Jason Daheala Quenneville and Stephan Moccio
“Manta Ray” from “Racing Extinction”
Music by J. Ralph and Lyric by Antony Hegarty
“Simple Song #3” from “Youth”
Music and Lyric by David Lang
“Til It Happens To You” from “The Hunting Ground”
Music and Lyric by Diane Warren and Lady Gaga
“Writing’s On The Wall” from “Spectre”
Music and Lyric by Jimmy Napes and Sam Smith
Achievement in production design:
“Bridge of Spies” Production Design: Adam Stockhausen; Set Decoration: Rena DeAngelo and Bernhard Henrich
“The Danish Girl” Production Design: Eve Stewart; Set Decoration: Michael Standish
“Mad Max: Fury Road” Production Design: Colin Gibson; Set Decoration: Lisa Thompson
“The Martian” Production Design: Arthur Max; Set Decoration: Celia Bobak
“The Revenant” Production Design: Jack Fisk; Set Decoration: Hamish Purdy
Best animated short film:
“Bear Story” Gabriel Osorio and Pato Escala
“Prologue” Richard Williams and Imogen Sutton
“Sanjay’s Super Team” Sanjay Patel and Nicole Grindle
“We Can’t Live without Cosmos” Konstantin Bronzit
“World of Tomorrow” Don Hertzfeldt
Achievement in visual effects:
“Ex Machina” Andrew Whitehurst, Paul Norris, Mark Ardington and Sara Bennett
“Mad Max: Fury Road” Andrew Jackson, Tom Wood, Dan Oliver and Andy Williams
“The Martian” Richard Stammers, Anders Langlands, Chris Lawrence and Steven Warner
“The Revenant” Rich McBride, Matthew Shumway, Jason Smith and Cameron Waldbauer
“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” Roger Guyett, Patrick Tubach, Neal Scanlan and Chris Corbould
This year's complaints are especially kind of ridiculous given that people can only point to a handful of black films/performances that even might be worthy of nomination, and none of them are consensus picks as shocking snubs. The Oscars overlook stuff every year that is good to pretty good but not mind-blowingly amazing, and I would put most of the minority suggestions this year in that category.
(The only one that really sounds like it really deserved to be nominated was Elba, but I suspect what hurt him there wasn't his race but that, by releasing on Netflix before its qualifying run, the film represents the tip of a sea change that distributors and Hollywood in general is not at all happy about.)
At any rate, the Oscars are absolutely a symptom, not a cause, of the issue, and if we achieved parity of opportunity for minorities in Hollywood the Oscars would fall into line fairly quickly.
Edit: Trying to fix the problem by booting out older members isn't necessarily without consequences--the old people who aren't actively working are often the only people who actually take the time to watch the movies and vote, particularly in the less exciting categories like foreign film and documentary.