Sooo I only know the WAR story up to 56 and that is nowhere near as epic as the paladin's. Theres also only like 3 warriors in the whole of Eorzea and thats including the WoL.
Sooo I only know the WAR story up to 56 and that is nowhere near as epic as the paladin's. Theres also only like 3 warriors in the whole of Eorzea and thats including the WoL.
That plot point isn't unique to warriors.
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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Sooo I only know the WAR story up to 56 and that is nowhere near as epic as the paladin's. Theres also only like 3 warriors in the whole of Eorzea and thats including the WoL.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
At the end of the 2.0 Dragoon quests, you are both the Azure Dragoon and referenced as such in the 2.55 MSQ and in the 3.0 Dragoon quests.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
At the end of the 2.0 Dragoon quests, you are both the Azure Dragoon and referenced as such in the 2.55 MSQ and in the 3.0 Dragoon quests.
Thats weird.
I always thought it would be a "there can be only one" type of deal. (Obviously I haven't leveling dragoon. I think lancer is only on like level 5.)
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
At the end of the 2.0 Dragoon quests, you are both the Azure Dragoon and referenced as such in the 2.55 MSQ and in the 3.0 Dragoon quests.
Thats weird.
I always thought it would be a "there can be only one" type of deal. (Obviously I haven't leveling dragoon. I think lancer is only on like level 5.)
It is but once in a while there can be two. Estinien and your character.
And white mages. And black mages. And SCHs. And by necessity due to the prerequisites to get the egis, SMNs of your calibre.
And DRKs, where it's just you and Sidurgu trying to protect Rielle.
Drk doesn't claim you're the only drks alive.
It kinda does, actually. Sidurgu and Fray had a master. That master is dead.
Fray is dead.
There are no other students of the master mentioned or implied. It's basically you and Sidurgu vs. Ishgard.
There may indeed be more NPC DRKs that appear over time, but right now Sidurgu is the only one, and the story makes great pains to highlight how unique he and the job are.
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All of the classes are well established guilds which thrive in the city states and which offer basic versions of each job. Each job is generally a long lost or recently lost and more advanced version of a class and their combat style usually incorporates things that the original class did not and often could not accomplish. However, no job ever specifically implies that there can only be one who can be that job, only that there are some restrictions on who should be able and allowed to follow a job's teachings in order to avoid, for example, another War of the Magi situation where everyone who goes WHM and BLM dukes it out with massively destructive magic powers that fuck over everyone.
Some examples:
WHM/BLM:
White Mages are restricted to the Padjali of the Twelveswood, such as Kan-e Senna and her siblings, by the elementals because of their potential for misuse, as was the case in the War of the Magi. Black Mages are outright banned. Conjurers and Thaumaturges practice the basics in their capacity as healers, embalmers and spiritual guides, but do not have as much of the raw destructive or life manipulating powers of either. The player character overcomes this by basically being a chosen one who is strong enough to overcome the temptations of both and who is guided by the Padjali and the descendants of the black mages of old in hiding on how to be WHM and BLM.
WAR:
Warriors were originally a cultural tradition of the mountain dwelling Hellsguard Roegadyn. They were the protectors of their people. Their noble tradition died out as their younger generations gradually sought easier lives off the mountain as traders (in Ul'dah), sailors (like the other Roegadyn Sea Wolves) and mercenaries. Limsa has a marauder guild in part because of the Warrior tradition finding it's way to them through these people who left, but in a diluted fashion, and being embraced by the pirates wholeheartedly. Only the few who remain a part of that community like Curious Gorge and his brother have a culturally and personally vested interest in reviving the art as it was, inner beast and all, and allowing others to learn it, specifically the Marauders of Limsa like Wyrnzoen and Wheiskaet who want to and most likely have the will as well as the skill. They mainly are concerned with avoiding trouble with the inner beast overwhelming those with a will too weak to overcome it in the heat of battle and causing them to lash out on friend and foe alike in bloodlust.
NIN:
Ninjas are omnipresent, at least in the cultural memory of Doma, and something of a big deal in Othard. Their recent use post conquest of Doma by the Garleans as Garlean employed spies and assassins points to them being at least nominally live and well numerically. However, only the ninja path laid out by the elders of villages like the one Oboro and Karasu came from which is at least nominally about honour and duty to one's homeland and clan could reasonably be considered legitimate, and that's how the player learns the straight and narrow of advanced stabbin' time. There's a fair amount of Ninjas with Oboro and his group, and among the Doman refugees generally who follow Yugiri, but only Oboro, Yugiri and yourself as the Ninja player are on a level able to be considered especially adept at mudras and moving through the shadows.
MCH:
Stephanivien is probably the very first of his kind, in keeping with the machinist theme of being the way of the future, and you are easily able to integrate into his vision as a capable shot and helpful ally in his war in Ishgard on entrenched nobles and their over reliance on knights and noble blood for the dragon war. You share this vocation with Ishgard's poor, so you are hardly the only one or at all special beyond being especially good at this job and extraordinarily dedicated to Stephanivien's efforts, even through all the highs and lows of the MCH story.
AST:
This one is a bit tricky because we don't know how many astrologians there are who actually fight or practice magic in Sharlayan. We only know the presumption that there are Sharlayan astrologians who invented the art because they are really smart at astronomy and astrology as a sort of extension of the kind of magic Arcanists practice, but rooted in the stars and constellations of fate, and Ishgardian astrologians who in typical Ishgardian fashion found a way to make use of a single boring element of astrologian lore, the Dragon star, and use it and it's corresponding constellation to map the movements of dragon attacks, and never use anything else let alone magic for any other purpose. Your work as an astrologian is to use the recent arrival of Jannequinard's old teacher Mace and his granddaughter Leveva as a means to learn actual astrologian magic from Sharlayan and use it to revitalize the practice in Ishgard.
Stephanivien is probably the very first of his kind, in keeping with the machinist theme of being the way of the future, and you are easily able to integrate into his vision as a capable shot and helpful ally in his war in Ishgard on entrenched nobles and their over reliance on knights and noble blood for the dragon war. You share this vocation with Ishgard's poor, so you are hardly the only one or at all special beyond being especially good at this job and extraordinarily dedicated to Stephanivien's efforts, even through all the highs and lows of the MCH story.
This is actually stated in the flavor text for the Soul of the Machinist.
All the other soul crystals have the flavor text "Upon this crystal are etched the deeds of X past", where X is the job. The Soul of the Machinist, on the other hand, states specifically that unlike the others, no deeds have been etched into its surface.
Stephanivien is probably the very first of his kind, in keeping with the machinist theme of being the way of the future, and you are easily able to integrate into his vision as a capable shot and helpful ally in his war in Ishgard on entrenched nobles and their over reliance on knights and noble blood for the dragon war. You share this vocation with Ishgard's poor, so you are hardly the only one or at all special beyond being especially good at this job and extraordinarily dedicated to Stephanivien's efforts, even through all the highs and lows of the MCH story.
This is actually stated in the flavor text for the Soul of the Machinist.
All the other soul crystals have the flavor text "Upon this crystal are etched the deeds of X past", where X is the job. The Soul of the Machinist, on the other hand, states specifically that unlike the others, no deeds have been etched into its surface.
My first act upon completing the MCH story was to carve my initials on the soul crystal, next to a quote from Rambo.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
At the end of the 2.0 Dragoon quests, you are both the Azure Dragoon and referenced as such in the 2.55 MSQ and in the 3.0 Dragoon quests.
Thats weird.
I always thought it would be a "there can be only one" type of deal. (Obviously I haven't leveling dragoon. I think lancer is only on like level 5.)
It is in the sense that only one of you can be running around with Nidhogg's eye, and that's Estinien.
Is this like a reverse WoW situation? "boo hoo, I'm not the hero" to "boo hoo, I'm the bestest at everything"? Technically you're not the bestest Dragoon at least.
Huh?
If you're DRG 50, you're routinely referred to as being an Azure Dragoon, to the point that several cutscenes are changed to reflect that in the MSQ (I know of one from 2.5 that has three distinct versions because of that.)
Yeah but despite that title and the feats he pulls off maybe Estinien is still a better DRG? Well except that part when he got possessed.
About Dragoons:
I thought Estinien was the azure dragoon?
At the end of the 2.0 Dragoon quests, you are both the Azure Dragoon and referenced as such in the 2.55 MSQ and in the 3.0 Dragoon quests.
Thats weird.
I always thought it would be a "there can be only one" type of deal. (Obviously I haven't leveling dragoon. I think lancer is only on like level 5.)
It is but once in a while there can be two. Estinien and your character.
to be fair, that's exceedingly rare. When you first meet Estinien as a level 30 Dragoon, he's shocked to see that the Eye is reacting for another.
on the subject of Summoners, it's largely just you, following the info that Y'mhitra digs up. However, there are other Summoners, who are possibly your superior prior to you learning to Trance. But they're all backed by Ascians, or are Ascians.
By the way, is the whole Trance thing for Summoners supposed to reflect Kuja's power-building plans in FFIX?
On the subject of being super special, I just wish more cutscenes acknowledged my teams. It breaks suspension of disbelief when I keep getting referred to as a guy who fights Primals in single combat, when that has never happened.
Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Jokes aside, they haven't been forgotten.
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Jokes aside, they haven't been forgotten.
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Oooooh.
so that's who the WODs are, then? Interesting.
Which makes me wonder how Legacy characters dodged that fate.
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Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Jokes aside, they haven't been forgotten.
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Oooooh.
so that's who the WODs are, then? Interesting.
Which makes me wonder how Legacy characters dodged that fate.
We don't know that for sure, but it's at least being implied for now that is what's going on, sort of.
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Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Jokes aside, they haven't been forgotten.
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Wait, I thought at some point during 2.0-2.55 it was referenced that
the player character is the warrior of light from before the calamity, just nobody recognizes you because nobody can remember what the warriors of light looked like. Maybe I imagined that, but that's what I've always assumed and I'd be a bit disappointed if the pre calamity Warriors of Light are the current Warriors of Darkness because laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
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Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Jokes aside, they haven't been forgotten.
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Wait, I thought at some point during 2.0-2.55 it was referenced that
the player character is the warrior of light from before the calamity, just nobody recognizes you because nobody can remember what the warriors of light looked like. Maybe I imagined that, but that's what I've always assumed and I'd be a bit disappointed if the pre calamity Warriors of Light are the current Warriors of Darkness because laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
There are more Warriors of Light and probably Darkness then just the ones we've seen and which are used for advertising the game. Meaning that if the ones we've seen are the same, it doesn't mean all Warriors of Light from before besides us, as the player character, are now Warriors of Darkness. But there's still a lot of stuff we don't know about either.
Posts
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That plot point isn't unique to warriors.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
For example; bards.
I haven't gotten to 60 yet with SCH, but aren't you the only SCH in existence? I guess that makes you the bestest by default?
We are the hype.
Everything is DBZ Abridged Vegeta to you though.
No, Sion is Gohan.
On that point, I think we can all agree.
Huh?
I had no idea. Thats kind of lonely.
About Dragoons:
And DRKs, where it's just you and Sidurgu trying to protect Rielle.
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Thats weird.
Drk doesn't claim you're the only drks alive.
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It kinda does, actually. Sidurgu and Fray had a master. That master is dead.
There are no other students of the master mentioned or implied. It's basically you and Sidurgu vs. Ishgard.
There may indeed be more NPC DRKs that appear over time, but right now Sidurgu is the only one, and the story makes great pains to highlight how unique he and the job are.
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Some examples:
WHM/BLM:
WAR:
NIN:
MCH:
AST:
This is actually stated in the flavor text for the Soul of the Machinist.
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By the way, is the whole Trance thing for Summoners supposed to reflect Kuja's power-building plans in FFIX?
On the subject of being super special, I just wish more cutscenes acknowledged my teams. It breaks suspension of disbelief when I keep getting referred to as a guy who fights Primals in single combat, when that has never happened.
Especially when there was that early scene with hundreds of people surrounding the mother crystal, and the forgotten plot point of the Warriors of Light who vanished from Carteneau.
Who?
Post game and 3.1 MSQ
Or if they have now that's a plot point as to why they're listening to Linkin Park and shopping at early 2000's Hot Topic
Oooooh.
Which makes me wonder how Legacy characters dodged that fate.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/0bedb1c411e10e90b863f223e0a18a3082fa5458
This one is a bit technical on the details but essentially if your sub has been expired for over 30 days you can come back and play the game for free for 4 days. The timer starts when you first log in during this period.
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Wait, I thought at some point during 2.0-2.55 it was referenced that
To choosest thou this beaten path, thy countenance must needs be pure and thy nod be true.