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[FFXIV:HW] Patch 3.3 is live, Get to it!

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I might do a stream purchase if the costumes are worthwhile. Those minions, while tempting, are probably not as worth it to me as a costume would be.

    If the costume is in the same vein as the minions, I will die on the spot.

    And then I will buy the stream ticket and watch as a ghost.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Amazon promotion has started. Spend 20 bucks in the video games category on Amazon and you get a game code for the Japan 7-11 promotion items.

    And guess what we found in the video games category?

    https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/

    So...if I have an open preorder for a game that isn't limited quantities (Star Ocean) but isn't out yet; can I just cancel the pre-order, re-pre-order and get code credit for that?

    Also...is that fat chocobo different than the one already in the game? It says "original" fat chocobo, but it looks white.
    Its a fat white chocobo with a crown and a bigger gyashal green on a stick.

    Thats pretty much it. Worth it though as far as I'm concerned.

    Have to say, I'm pretty pleased with getting a bunch of stuff from a pre-order (Titanfall 2) I was going to get anyway... Much better than buying a bunch of soda!
    I had been been thinking about ordering Shin Megami Tensei IV on Amazon for awhile now so this served nicely to finally push me over the edge and go for it.

    Got to love it when stuff lines up like that during moments of indecision.

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  • GreyWolfyGreyWolfy Rochester, NYRegistered User regular
    Got the code email immediately after pre-ordering the new Zelda, pretty nice bonus IMO. While I had fun at last years fan fest, the GF and I are probably gonna skip it and just do PAX West. I'm mighty tempted to get that stream ticket though...

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  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    I ordered Star Ocean V for the Amazon stuff, since I'm a sucker for Tri-Ace. Those FF X minions are super cute, so I guess I'm getting a stream package this year.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    In some cases the story pretends you did it yourself, like Ifrit story. Regardless, the game isn't pretending there are not a LOT of adventurers with the Echo. You are just the best of them all.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.

    I know that, if you're a legacy account, it's you, but starting from ARR, that plot point kind of just vanishes.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.
    Only just started the post heavensward content but I had been kind of assuming
    Thats who the warriors of darkness are with them being modeled after the ones from the opening.

    Figured they might have been pissed about how that hot mess turned out and turned their back on Hydalen.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    So a while back when I was playing super casually I stopped because my pattern of:

    Log on and queue for dungeon for whatever I'm leveling and then do HW stuff with my 52 WHM.

    Stopped working, which was why I quit. Have the queues for the pre HW dungeons gotten better? I remember like a week solid where I'd log in, queue as DPS for half an hour and get nothing, queue as healer for ten and get nothing and sometimes even run into issues getting a group with a tank.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    So a while back when I was playing super casually I stopped because my pattern of:

    Log on and queue for dungeon for whatever I'm leveling and then do HW stuff with my 52 WHM.

    Stopped working, which was why I quit. Have the queues for the pre HW dungeons gotten better? I remember like a week solid where I'd log in, queue as DPS for half an hour and get nothing, queue as healer for ten and get nothing and sometimes even run into issues getting a group with a tank.

    Yes, because there's a good amount of high end grinds that need older content now.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Re-downloading now then. Might as well get back into it.

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  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    For example, the fourth step of the Anima relic requires an item that can be bought for 1800 Eso or gained for running the CT raids once a week. Guess which option most people go with.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    For example, the fourth step of the Anima relic requires an item that can be bought for 1800 Eso or gained for running the CT raids once a week. Guess which option most people go with.

    Both..typically.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.
    Only just started the post heavensward content but I had been kind of assuming
    Thats who the warriors of darkness are with them being modeled after the ones from the opening.

    Figured they might have been pissed about how that hot mess turned out and turned their back on Hydalen.
    There are a lot of questions about the warriors of darkness that aren't close to being answered. If they are the team that Louisoix sent to the future, then you would know them because you (legacy) were at Carteneau and also got teleported.

    The whole thing is as clear as mud. What square is doing with them and why they used those specific models is just confusing.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    If they end up releasing five or six new active abilities with the next expansion, I think I'm going to have a brain aneurysm.

    Probably won't happen but I'm kind of hoping they condense a few things or create abilities that can replace others in certain situations (like I prefer this rather than "I absolutely have to use both") so you don't have everything and the kitchen sink slotted at all times.

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.
    Only just started the post heavensward content but I had been kind of assuming
    Thats who the warriors of darkness are with them being modeled after the ones from the opening.

    Figured they might have been pissed about how that hot mess turned out and turned their back on Hydalen.
    i think WOD are almost certainly WOL's from one of the other 'fractured' worlds

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.
    Only just started the post heavensward content but I had been kind of assuming
    Thats who the warriors of darkness are with them being modeled after the ones from the opening.

    Figured they might have been pissed about how that hot mess turned out and turned their back on Hydalen.
    i think WOD are almost certainly WOL's from one of the other 'fractured' worlds
    yeah, that makes sense. I remember that Echo flashback that showed them annihilating the last of the Ascians. That has to be another timeline.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the warriors of light who disappeared from Carteneau were up to.
    Only just started the post heavensward content but I had been kind of assuming
    Thats who the warriors of darkness are with them being modeled after the ones from the opening.

    Figured they might have been pissed about how that hot mess turned out and turned their back on Hydalen.
    i think WOD are almost certainly WOL's from one of the other 'fractured' worlds
    The comments from the end of the Warring Triad mission in 3.3 lean that way.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    If they end up releasing five or six new active abilities with the next expansion, I think I'm going to have a brain aneurysm.

    Probably won't happen but I'm kind of hoping they condense a few things or create abilities that can replace others in certain situations (like I prefer this rather than "I absolutely have to use both") so you don't have everything and the kitchen sink slotted at all times.

    From what little I've played and read it seems the devs are aware of the idea of keyboard bloat and it being hard to find meaningful new abilities for each class without stepping on toes (heck in HW the new WHM stuff kinda felt like whatever the other healer was called from memory).

    I wonder if eventually they'll basically list a given job as done or introduce some new mechanic that involves picking which set of expansion abilities you want.

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Yea at this point I'd definitely prefer maybe a choice of passives or a choice of overwriting abilities (as in you can either slot X1 that replaces A, or X2 that replaces B, but not both at the same time)

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    If I want to level up a Hand/Land class, whats the quickest/best way to do so?

  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    DoH is definitely leves. It's faster and cheaper. Depending on how much crafting you want to do later on, you could possibly outright grind the 56-60s using rested exp, manuals and macro crafting materials since holding onto raw materials takes up a lot of inventory space. Also flat out grinding the last levels also means you can skip upgrading gear

    DoL is also leves, but I prefer grinding out the levels as you can sell the stuff you gather. Especially stuff like Flax, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water, Alumen, Cobalt Ore

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    If I want to level up a Hand/Land class, whats the quickest/best way to do so?

    All of the above.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Yeah I think I'm going to do some Botany and Weaving since after I level Paladin I want to do Black Mage and White Mage.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    If you're leveling crafters, make sure to get the good cross-class skills from them.

    The best ones to start with include Careful Synthesis (Weaver 15), Hasty Touch (Culenarian 15), and Waste Not (Leatherworker 15)

  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    For levelling DoH classes look into unlocking the Ixal when you can, which is about when the story has you fighting Garuda. Their quests require you to craft stuff and the best part is you can do the crafting as your strongest class then cash in as any crafting class. Best of all, the highest Ixal quests will also give you tier 4 crafting/gathering materia.

    For DoL, also look at doing Grand Company provisioning missions. That's how I got all my classes to 60.

    Bucketman
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Takel wrote: »
    DoH is definitely leves. It's faster and cheaper. Depending on how much crafting you want to do later on, you could possibly outright grind the 56-60s using rested exp, manuals and macro crafting materials since holding onto raw materials takes up a lot of inventory space. Also flat out grinding the last levels also means you can skip upgrading gear

    DoL is also leves, but I prefer grinding out the levels as you can sell the stuff you gather. Especially stuff like Flax, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water, Alumen, Cobalt Ore

    Also, once you have access, the crafting beast tribe dailies (Ixal sub-50, Moogle 50-60) are helpful.

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    For DoL, also look at doing Grand Company provisioning missions. That's how I got all my classes to 60.

    These are super helpful for what's generally not a whole lot of effort, especially the in-demand ones.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Thanks guys! I know I could be leveling Paladin to 60 but I find the grinding stuff to be really relaxing. Just tossing up a podcast and running around mining.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Question for DPS mains:

    You're running a dungeon and your gear is 15-20 points higher than the tank's (so, i215 - i220 vs. i200). You keep pulling hate off the tank. Do you throttle it back a bit?

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  • kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    Probably not? 20 ilvls is absolutely no reason for a tank to lose hate, at all, ever. The problem there is incompetence, and attacking slower won't fix that.

  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Most aggro management skills for DPS are on 2-3 minute times so they won't be up every pull assuming they even cross classed them. 215-220 is pretty much the baseline for item levels now anyway so the tank needs to start farming Midas normal.

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  • kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    I did a quick experiment, let me offer some data to support this. As of 3.26, tank stance is 2.7x threat, the second hit in a threat combo is 3.5x threat, the third hit has a 5x multiplier for Paladins and a 5.5x multiplier for the other tanks. I took my level 60 Dark Knight and gave her four pieces of Vault tank armor, a Darkscale belt, and the Sohm Al tank pants, and the accessories my level 53 Dragoon was wearing. Final item level: 132, with 637 strength and 630 vitality. In that getup, with Darkside and Grit on, spamming my threat combo and nothing else, no oGCDs or Dark Arts or anything, I generated 193,927.5 threat in 91 seconds - 2,131 threat per second. You would need to be doing DPS higher than 2,131 to the target to get hate off me.

    Of course, can't always be doing your threat combo to full utility, especially in dungeons. So, in a group situation? Unleash has 6x threat, and in that same gear I'm doing ~200 damage a cast - quick test gave me 1450 in seven casts. That's 3,356 threat per target per GCD, 23,490 total in seven casts. You need to be beating those numbers per target to pull anything off of Unleash spam.

    20 item levels is nothing. If your tank at i200 can't handle dps at i230, they should be ashamed of themselves.

  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Had a small heart attack when I remembered I had a one time password on my account.

    Really glad that for once my laziness regarding clearing apps I don't use off my phone worked out. Now to grab a month of sub and all the tools to re-name/re-make my character. Reckon I'll go back to Au'Ra for a bit maybe.

  • YukiraYukira Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    It's not the end of the world for DPS to give the tank a 2-3 second lead time.

    Where are you losing threat?

    If it's Trash and the DPS aren't assisting you, that's their fault. You should be able to weave Unleash between your threat combo hits to keep agro off of AoE.

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  • SnowglobeSnowglobe Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Question for DPS mains:

    You're running a dungeon and your gear is 15-20 points higher than the tank's (so, i215 - i220 vs. i200). You keep pulling hate off the tank. Do you throttle it back a bit?

    Only if that hate gets me killed.

  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    If I notice I'm ripping aggro off a tank, first thing I do would be to double check my targets, and perhaps wait for a GCD or two to make sure I'm hitting the "right" target. Next throttle down would be to not stack CDs.

    However, if I'm ripping aggro using a standard rotation, not jumping the gun and not using CDs, that's the time where I dig through logs to find out WTF is happening and giving advice if necessary. I'm not going to pause between every GCD. That's just ridiculous.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    As a DRG I'll just usually cycle through targets to find something I don't have much hate on.

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  • JakarrdJakarrd In the belly of OklahomaRegistered User regular
    Just have the healer start spamming aoe heals till dps doesn't rip hate anymore. Problem solved! XD

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Did they announce anything for XIV during E3? I've been doing some online searches but not coming up with anything.

    Did they ever officially announce Samurai and Red Mage?

    I really hope that if/when they give us Red Mage that they go with a Spellblade play-style for them. Just a standard hybrid white/black seems like it won't work very well in XIV. They would need to do something different and unique. And elemental strike spells would be awesome.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Did they announce anything for XIV during E3? I've been doing some online searches but not coming up with anything.

    Did they ever officially announce Samurai and Red Mage?

    I really hope that if/when they give us Red Mage that they go with a Spellblade play-style for them. Just a standard hybrid white/black seems like it won't work very well in XIV. They would need to do something different and unique. And elemental strike spells would be awesome.

    They discussed more about how the Palace of the Dead will work (and confirmed that yes, everyone's favorite creepy conjurer will play a major role.) They also have said that they're working with Microsoft to make an XBone client.

    Only rumblings on xpac have been that inventory will get a MASSIVE upgrade in it. Don't expect to hear anything about the xpac until October 14th.

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