I think the most revolting bit is when he tries to claim that his complaint is for the players, and not his own ego. Nick, if you really cared about your players, you wouldn't treat them like you do.
But if they schedule opponents that they might lose against then they might lose
And how can they maintain their smug insistence that they're the greatest football team ever to walk the earth if they don't prove it by creaming Central Northern Washington County University-College?
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Yeah, Alabama's scheduling is better than most of the SEC, from what I recall when I paid more attention. Isn't their problem more how Saban uses...what was the term? Grey shirts? Something having to do with scholarships.
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On the whole, Bama does take on challenging teams and it's refreshing to see as a neutral fan.
But they (like pretty much every big program) will usually have 1-2 games that are just an exercise in murder (see also: Wisconsin vs Nebraska this weekend).
After actually watching the video, it seems like there's more to the story that isn't being mentioned, like there's some problem with the way seats/tickets are distributed and there were people that wanted to attend that game that couldn't. I have no idea, but at the end of the day your attendance is gonna suffer when everyone in the country knows that you're gonna be up by 50 before the half and then game starts at 11 AM.
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At least Bama doesn't have the audacity to schedule Rutgers like all these big ten teams.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I think the most revolting bit is when he tries to claim that his complaint is for the players, and not his own ego. Nick, if you really cared about your players, you wouldn't treat them like you do.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Yeah, Alabama's scheduling is better than most of the SEC, from what I recall when I paid more attention. Isn't their problem more how Saban uses...what was the term? Grey shirts? Something having to do with scholarships.
I think this is an issue across elite schools, but yes Alabama has been criticized for grey shirting, which is where you basically tell someone that the current class is too big, but you do want them. So they delay enrolling in fall classes. Then in the spring, they join the new class, even though they've already graduated.
It's incredibly risky for those students because they have no guarantees and they forgo other opportunities. It really sucks.
I think the most revolting bit is when he tries to claim that his complaint is for the players, and not his own ego. Nick, if you really cared about your players, you wouldn't treat them like you do.
WEEK 6: I TOTALLY DIDN'T FORGET TO DO THIS AND THIS ISN'T COPIED STRAIGHT FROM WIKIPEDIA, I SWEAR!
Straight-Up
#5 LSU (-2.5) @ #22 Florida - From the ancient scrolls:
Throughout the rest of the first half, Florida's offense stalled and LSU quarterback Jimmy Field effectively moved the ball, using plays from his wristband. But in the second quarter, with LSU up 10–7, the Gators sent a nine-man blitz against Field. He never saw it coming, and a sea of Gators piled on top of him. When he came out of the mass of bodies, his play-calling wristband was gone. The Gators then held Field to just 12 yards passing in the second half, with a lone first down. The Gators came back to win 13–10, Billy Cash kicking two field goals, and after the game a Gator coach gave the wristband to an official, saying one of his players had found it on the field.
Hell yeah, that is just some good, clean gamesmanship right there. Also Florida has a home loss to Kentucky, which may have ended the streak but also isn't a bad loss in 2018? We'll get to that.
Navy (-3) @ Air Force - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S THE FIRST ROUND OF THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF TROPHY! PLEASE STAND AT ATTENTION FOR THE REST OF THIS PICK'EM AS A SIGN OF RESPECT FOR OUR TROOPS! This game has, more often than not, decided who wins the trophy each year, but Army is, dare I say, good, and won the trophy last year, which means the trophy really is up for grabs. Also, these two have played some interesting games thus far, so I really have no idea who is gonna win this game. Good luck players!
#13 AND UNDEFEATED EAT SHIT HATERS IT'S Kentucky @ Texas A&M (-6) - Y'all, there is a lot going on in Kentucky football history. For example:
After completing his first season at Kentucky, Collier was named SEC Coach of the Year after posting a 7–2 record. Collier's assistants during his tenure at Kentucky included the likes of Bill Arnsparger, Chuck Knox, Howard Schnellenberger, and Don Shula. Despite having a winning record, 41–36–3 in eight seasons, Collier was fired. Collier struggled to recruit for much of his tenure, about which frustrated fans wrote letters of complaint to the university. Collier is the last Kentucky head football coach to leave the Wildcats with a winning record.
Blanton Collier was fired in 1961! That's an amazing stretch of futility! Then you are immediately followed up with this:
Charlie Bradshaw, an Alabama assistant under Bear Bryant, was hired to replace the fired Collier. Despite all the hype about being a Bear Bryant assistant, Bradshaw's tenure turned out to be a disappointment, as he was unable to have much success with the Wildcats. He had a 25–41–5 record in seven seasons. Bradshaw is the last Kentucky coach to defeat Tennessee twice in Knoxville, and the last Kentucky coach to defeat Auburn twice. He was also the last to defeat a No. 1 ranked team in the country until Rich Brooks in 2007. Bradshaw, a harsh, brutal coach, was the head coach of the infamous Thin Thirty Kentucky team. Kentucky had 88 players when Bradshaw arrived, but by season's end, only 30 players were on the team.
Weird. An Alabama assistant coach under that era's best coach failed to pan out when separated from the Bama support system. That's new. Sorry to all of the Texas A&M fans out here, but you should be rooting for good things to happen to Kentucky football, if only because Benny Snell Jr. is a delight (I am not looking forward to the inevitable problematic thing about him to show up).
#8 Auburn (-4) @ Mississippi State - You may be shocked to learn that this game is not a rivalry game. Sure, I read a very fun article by College and Magnolia trying to say this is an underrated rivalry, but you can't fool me. I don't care that Mississippi State committed to one of the most Southern of traditions of lighting themselves on fire just to talk some shit about Auburn recruiting Cam Newton. Talk to me when y'all start stealing wristbands.
Utah @ #14 Stanford (-5.5) - Do not watch this game. It will not be good. It will be some of the shittiest offensive football you will see all year. All 5 Stanford fans will not be watching this game (they have a wine bar to get to), while Utah fans will only be watching this game out of spite and wondering if Kyle Whittingham is really the best coach this program can get. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF BRYCE LOVE, THE ONLY REASON TO EVEN CONSIDER WATCHING THIS GAME, IS HEALTHY ENOUGH TO PLAY! Fuck this game.
Against the Spread
Florida State @ #17 Miami (-13.5) - I mean....you all know what I'm going to put here, right? Also I apologize for the music and editing but this guy is apparently the only one who put a montage of all these misses together on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTp7IbZ2uY
San Diego State @ Boise State (-13.5) - The Murder Smurfs haven't looked nearly as good since losing on the road to Oklahoma State. Sure they beat Wyoming, but it wasn't impressive, you know? San Diego State has won 3 straight after a season-opening bludgeoning at the hands of Stanford, and they, unlike Boise State, have a win over a Power 5 opponent. Boise State being at home means they probably win, but this is ATS, so that may not matter as much.
Iowa (-7.5) @ Minnesota - FLOYD OF ROSEDALE! Check out this bit from the Floyd of Rosedale creation story:
To lighten the mood, Minnesota Governor Floyd Olson sent a telegram to Governor Herring on game-day morning, which read, "Dear Clyde, Minnesota folks excited over your statement about the Iowa crowd lynching the Minnesota football team. I have assured them that you are a law-abiding gentleman and are only trying to get our goat. The Minnesota team will tackle clean, but, oh! how hard, Clyde. If you seriously think Iowa has any chance to win, I will bet you a Minnesota prize hog against an Iowa prize hog that Minnesota wins today. The loser must deliver the hog in person to the winner. Accept my bet thru a reporter. You are getting odds because Minnesota raises better hogs than Iowa. My best personal regards and condolences."
God, that is some Grade A shit-talking. Someone tried to sue over this friendly wager, arguing that federal gambling laws were being broken, to which Governor Olson argued that no bet had been made because Iowa didn't have a chance to win anyway. Beautiful. Floyd is also 98 pounds in weight, and yet large humans lift him up like it's nothing at the end of each rivalry game. I also couldn't tell you who wins this game - Iowa is an ok team, and I would have said that the Fighting PJ Flecks were probably the better team based off a victory over a very good Fresno State team, but they failed to ROW THE BOAT so hard last week against Maryland. It's alright, Minnesota, I hear that's a thing that just happens sometimes.
#6 Notre Dame (-6.5) @ #24 Virginia Tech - There isn't any real history between these two teams, so let's see what I can find...
Yes, Rudy was offsides.
Huh, no idea how that got in there. Let's try that again.
The clash will mark only the second meeting ever between the two teams, with the Hokies emerging with a tight three-point win in South Bend two years ago in game where the Hokies got away with several shots to the head of then Irish QB Deshone Kizer .
Weird, a Notre Dame site proclaiming an opponent to be cheaters. That's new and exciting. (Notre Dame is gonna go undefeated and face Alabama in the playoffs and you all are secretly looking forward to that because it's one of the few times you will willingly root for the Crimson Tide to do their 10th Plague impression).
GAME OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK (AGAINST THE SPREAD)
#19 Texas vs. #7 Oklahoma (-7.5) - THE RED RIVER SHOOTOUTRIVALRY SHOWDOWN! Let's see what gems we can mine from this rivalry page:
In 1972, Oklahoma spied on Texas' practices, allowing them to block a quick kick the Longhorns had secretly been working on en route to a victory. The 1976 rivalry game was overshadowed by allegations by Texas coach Darrell Royal that Oklahoma had been spying on his practices. The claim was later confirmed in OU Coach Barry Switzer's book, Bootlegger's Boy. Royal and Switzer (who was 3–0 against Texas as a head coach coming into this game) were involved in a serious feud at the time. The 1976 game was attended by U.S. President Gerald Ford. Ford made an appearance with Royal and Switzer before the game. Switzer and Royal both spoke to Ford but not to each other.
Ok, that's pretty good. You have to appreciate the irony of Gerald Ford, man who pardoned Richard Nixon over spying allegations, showing up to a rivalry game where spying allegations were the headline story. Got anything else?
OU President David Boren cancelled classes the following Monday on account of inclement weather: "It was snowing touchdowns in Dallas."
Aww yeah, that's the good stuff. Anyway, Texas is BACK(tm) again, while Oklahoma's defense is suspect at best. Anyway, here is my prediction for the game:
People who think Fleck is going to work miracles don't remember the first year he was at Western. We had a crap season, then a pretty good season, and THEN we wrecked all kinds of shit.
I really wish we’d get a new OC. Couldn’t get a TD against northwestern... just terrible play calling.
Their defense is not bad. It's not a bunch of world beaters (except Gaziano), but they're a completely reasonable Big Ten defense. Fitzgerald is a good defensive coach.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
According to internal documents obtained by Yahoo Sports’ Pete Thamel, a Pac-12 executive who is not a trained official put his thumb on the scale and personally overruled what should have been a targeting penalty. On the final play of the third quarter of Washington State’s Sep. 21 loss to USC, WSU linebacker Logan Tago lowered his head to hit USC quarterback JT Daniels. It was an obvious instance of targeting. In-stadium replay officials and replay officials in the Pac-12’s command center both apparently decided it was targeting, which meant that Tago should have been ejected from the game.
However, Thamel reports that Woodie Dixon, Pac-12 general counsel and senior vice president of business affairs, personally ruled that it was not targeting. Dixon has a role in football operations for the conference, though he is not a formally trained official, and is not deputized to make calls on replay reviews:
Dixon telephoned in his opinion that the play wasn’t targeting, sources said. According to the report, his opinion overruled both the trained officials in the stadium replay booth and in the league’s command center.
Initially, the Pac-12 denied anything was up, only admitting that there was an "error" when caught out on it. But it's all okay now:
Scott spoke about the report today, calling Dixon’s involvement a “mistake.” Dixon, who apparently thought he was just offering an opinion and not dictating a decision, will no longer be involved in the replay process anymore. Scott announced the “most significant, strong, response I can imagine” in response to the scandal, which is that people in conference leadership positions will no longer be involved in replay decision making. I’m not sure why that was ever the case in the first place.
Dixon shouldn't be removed from the replay process. He should be removed from the Pac-12.
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Well I suspect that also explains why a nasty targeting of WSU QB Gardner Minshew in the 4th quarter wasn’t even called roughing the passer, let alon targeting.
Some fucking Midwest lawyer with no experience as a player, coach, or official was given veto power over on-the-field officials. Just when I think the PAC12 under Larry Scott can’t get any stupider, they prove me wrong.
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Oh shit, I thought this was about the shit that happened at the beginning of the season, I had no idea there was another super controversial hit that got overruled.
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I think the most revolting bit is when he tries to claim that his complaint is for the players, and not his own ego. Nick, if you really cared about your players, you wouldn't treat them like you do.
Edit: Deadspin puts it bluntly: Nick Saban Is Very Angry At Alabama Fans For Not Attending Guaranteed Win Against Garbage Opponent.
Hey here's an idea Alabama
Schedule harder opponents
I don't think he's even dodging. He's just genuinely confused.
But if they schedule opponents that they might lose against then they might lose
And how can they maintain their smug insistence that they're the greatest football team ever to walk the earth if they don't prove it by creaming Central Northern Washington County University-College?
We have had neutral site games for the last up teen years and have home and homes coming up against Texas and ND.
So.
You’re just flat out wrong.
Like yeah they do have good OOC games coming up, but in recent memory they haven't really had any
It's not their fault FSU sucked this year, for example.
FSU was last year.
Louisville was this year.
But they (like pretty much every big program) will usually have 1-2 games that are just an exercise in murder (see also: Wisconsin vs Nebraska this weekend).
After actually watching the video, it seems like there's more to the story that isn't being mentioned, like there's some problem with the way seats/tickets are distributed and there were people that wanted to attend that game that couldn't. I have no idea, but at the end of the day your attendance is gonna suffer when everyone in the country knows that you're gonna be up by 50 before the half and then game starts at 11 AM.
The players were literally tweeting about how they felt bad about the attendance. So yes, he was responding to player complaints.
That's what Tennessee and Vanderbilt are for.
Vandy came closer to beating ND than Michigan did.
I think this is an issue across elite schools, but yes Alabama has been criticized for grey shirting, which is where you basically tell someone that the current class is too big, but you do want them. So they delay enrolling in fall classes. Then in the spring, they join the new class, even though they've already graduated.
It's incredibly risky for those students because they have no guarantees and they forgo other opportunities. It really sucks.
Good for them!
https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2018/9/18/17875992/2019-schedule-released-the-good-and-bad-of-the-2019-alabama-football-schedule
Saban treats his players as cogs, tries to shame them publicly and stop them when they make moves to better their own interests, and whines about unfair treatment when he's rightfully made out to be the bad guy. He doesn't actually care about his players, and it would be nice if he didn't pretend.
Depends if you count points, or like, the actual game. Michigan had an ND TD go literally through their safety's hands, for example.
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#5 LSU (-2.5) @ #22 Florida - From the ancient scrolls: Hell yeah, that is just some good, clean gamesmanship right there. Also Florida has a home loss to Kentucky, which may have ended the streak but also isn't a bad loss in 2018? We'll get to that.
Navy (-3) @ Air Force - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S THE FIRST ROUND OF THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF TROPHY! PLEASE STAND AT ATTENTION FOR THE REST OF THIS PICK'EM AS A SIGN OF RESPECT FOR OUR TROOPS! This game has, more often than not, decided who wins the trophy each year, but Army is, dare I say, good, and won the trophy last year, which means the trophy really is up for grabs. Also, these two have played some interesting games thus far, so I really have no idea who is gonna win this game. Good luck players!
#13 AND UNDEFEATED EAT SHIT HATERS IT'S Kentucky @ Texas A&M (-6) - Y'all, there is a lot going on in Kentucky football history. For example: Blanton Collier was fired in 1961! That's an amazing stretch of futility! Then you are immediately followed up with this: Weird. An Alabama assistant coach under that era's best coach failed to pan out when separated from the Bama support system. That's new. Sorry to all of the Texas A&M fans out here, but you should be rooting for good things to happen to Kentucky football, if only because Benny Snell Jr. is a delight (I am not looking forward to the inevitable problematic thing about him to show up).
#8 Auburn (-4) @ Mississippi State - You may be shocked to learn that this game is not a rivalry game. Sure, I read a very fun article by College and Magnolia trying to say this is an underrated rivalry, but you can't fool me. I don't care that Mississippi State committed to one of the most Southern of traditions of lighting themselves on fire just to talk some shit about Auburn recruiting Cam Newton. Talk to me when y'all start stealing wristbands.
Utah @ #14 Stanford (-5.5) - Do not watch this game. It will not be good. It will be some of the shittiest offensive football you will see all year. All 5 Stanford fans will not be watching this game (they have a wine bar to get to), while Utah fans will only be watching this game out of spite and wondering if Kyle Whittingham is really the best coach this program can get. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF BRYCE LOVE, THE ONLY REASON TO EVEN CONSIDER WATCHING THIS GAME, IS HEALTHY ENOUGH TO PLAY! Fuck this game.
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Florida State @ #17 Miami (-13.5) - I mean....you all know what I'm going to put here, right? Also I apologize for the music and editing but this guy is apparently the only one who put a montage of all these misses together on Youtube.
San Diego State @ Boise State (-13.5) - The Murder Smurfs haven't looked nearly as good since losing on the road to Oklahoma State. Sure they beat Wyoming, but it wasn't impressive, you know? San Diego State has won 3 straight after a season-opening bludgeoning at the hands of Stanford, and they, unlike Boise State, have a win over a Power 5 opponent. Boise State being at home means they probably win, but this is ATS, so that may not matter as much.
Iowa (-7.5) @ Minnesota - FLOYD OF ROSEDALE! Check out this bit from the Floyd of Rosedale creation story: God, that is some Grade A shit-talking. Someone tried to sue over this friendly wager, arguing that federal gambling laws were being broken, to which Governor Olson argued that no bet had been made because Iowa didn't have a chance to win anyway. Beautiful. Floyd is also 98 pounds in weight, and yet large humans lift him up like it's nothing at the end of each rivalry game. I also couldn't tell you who wins this game - Iowa is an ok team, and I would have said that the Fighting PJ Flecks were probably the better team based off a victory over a very good Fresno State team, but they failed to ROW THE BOAT so hard last week against Maryland. It's alright, Minnesota, I hear that's a thing that just happens sometimes.
#6 Notre Dame (-6.5) @ #24 Virginia Tech - There isn't any real history between these two teams, so let's see what I can find... Huh, no idea how that got in there. Let's try that again. Weird, a Notre Dame site proclaiming an opponent to be cheaters. That's new and exciting. (Notre Dame is gonna go undefeated and face Alabama in the playoffs and you all are secretly looking forward to that because it's one of the few times you will willingly root for the Crimson Tide to do their 10th Plague impression).
GAME OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK (AGAINST THE SPREAD)
#19 Texas vs. #7 Oklahoma (-7.5) - THE RED RIVER SHOOTOUT RIVALRY SHOWDOWN! Let's see what gems we can mine from this rivalry page: Ok, that's pretty good. You have to appreciate the irony of Gerald Ford, man who pardoned Richard Nixon over spying allegations, showing up to a rivalry game where spying allegations were the headline story. Got anything else? Aww yeah, that's the good stuff. Anyway, Texas is BACK(tm) again, while Oklahoma's defense is suspect at best. Anyway, here is my prediction for the game:
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I still took Iowa over him, this year.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Their defense is not bad. It's not a bunch of world beaters (except Gaziano), but they're a completely reasonable Big Ten defense. Fitzgerald is a good defensive coach.
Front row, end zone, end of the field where the kick was blocked. Forgot sunblock behind my ears.
I was at the Nebraska game, don't even remember who we were playing. I just remember the shock (and yes, cheers) when they announced it had happened.
Initially, the Pac-12 denied anything was up, only admitting that there was an "error" when caught out on it. But it's all okay now:
Dixon shouldn't be removed from the replay process. He should be removed from the Pac-12.
Some fucking Midwest lawyer with no experience as a player, coach, or official was given veto power over on-the-field officials. Just when I think the PAC12 under Larry Scott can’t get any stupider, they prove me wrong.
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