I listened to the first track and it was fun, but I'm not in the habit of dedicating 2.5 hours to listening to music (or really listening to music much at all). Perhaps a better question might be what would be the best way to get the most out of it; listening all the way through, or pausing to go through the breakdowns and details on Genius?
I listened to the first track and it was fun, but I'm not in the habit of dedicating 2.5 hours to listening to music (or really listening to music much at all). Perhaps a better question might be what would be the best way to get the most out of it; listening all the way through, or pausing to go through the breakdowns and details on Genius?
I listened to it over the course of several days, just whenever I had the time, and it was perfectly fine
I listened to the first track and it was fun, but I'm not in the habit of dedicating 2.5 hours to listening to music (or really listening to music much at all). Perhaps a better question might be what would be the best way to get the most out of it; listening all the way through, or pausing to go through the breakdowns and details on Genius?
The genius stuff really helps with stage setting and a brief on that moment in their lives/American history. My first listening did it reading the main annotation and then listening to the song, this will make it take longer though.
Alexander Hamilton, the opening, is fucking perfect
Yeah it is just a ludicrously strong intro
And somehow the play manages to keep it up from there!
It doesn't even stop! It just flows so smoothly into Aaron Burr, Sir, and everything just keeps going from there. It's really incredible how well the first...8 songs or so in the intro, until we get to introducing washington, just move together
Alexander Hamilton, the opening, is fucking perfect
Yeah it is just a ludicrously strong intro
And somehow the play manages to keep it up from there!
It doesn't even stop! It just flows so smoothly into Aaron Burr, Sir, and everything just keeps going from there. It's really incredible how well the first...8 songs or so in the intro, until we get to introducing washington, just move together
This is a solo performance of the opening song when it was written back in 2009
If you like this, it only gets better from there
Yeah, OK, jumped over to itunes and bought the broadway recording before this video was half done. Thanks for making me aware of this!
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edited November 2015
Bah, as someone who works a job where I teach people about history, I fucking haaaaaaate that attitude. And it's that attitude that often makes it difficult for visitors to be willing to ask what they perceive to be "dumb" questions. We should celebrate people wanting to learn, no matter what their starting point is!
(There's also classist undertones to assuming everyone should know certain things, but that's another discussion...)
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I get that attitude, honestly. I've been there myself in the past. I love history, I find it absolutely fascinating, and I've often joked that the reason I studied history instead of literature for my undergrad is because history has the better stories.
So every time I encounter someone who prefaces their love of something like Hamilton with a, "You know I usually don't enjoy history, but..." it raises my hackles a bit.
Because history is that good already, if you just are willing to throw yourself into it and learn about it.
Of course, getting pissy about that is the wrong attitude to take, because what the person said is not, "History blows, nerd" but "Wait maybe history is a cool thing, even if you are a giant nerd."
And I think it's sometimes hard to connect those dots, but that's what you gotta do.
I recently left a job working at a historic foundation, and I picked up a lot working there—but it was all Civil War/Reconstruction history. History covers literally all time, and it's silly to expect everyone to know everything or that your favorite period of time is better than another.
Also, listening to Hamilton prompted me to buy and start reading Chernow's biography and bone up on my Revolutionary War knowledge, so boo to your friend.
History is absolutely fascinating but I only have so much time I can devote to anything that isn't trying to keep myself alive! If I had infinite free time you can bet I'd dig into some history, but, yknow, I have to study for my own majors.
I get it, but it's just not possible for a lot of people.
I get that attitude, honestly. I've been there myself in the past. I love history, I find it absolutely fascinating, and I've often joked that the reason I studied history instead of literature for my undergrad is because history has the better stories.
So every time I encounter someone who prefaces their love of something like Hamilton with a, "You know I usually don't enjoy history, but..." it raises my hackles a bit.
Because history is that good already, if you just are willing to throw yourself into it and learn about it.
Of course, getting pissy about that is the wrong attitude to take, because what the person said is not, "History blows, nerd" but "Wait maybe history is a cool thing, even if you are a giant nerd."
And I think it's sometimes hard to connect those dots, but that's what you gotta do.
It sounds like Mr Gs friend isn't even saying its good/interesting, just that they should know it because its important
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History is hard to get into because(as in all things) there is a lot of bad history out there.
It should be real hard to make it uninteresting but people find a way
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facetiousa wit so dryit shits sandRegistered Userregular
edited November 2015
History as taught in schools is also complete fucking garbage the vast majority of the time. It took having a really good teacher in 8th grade who actually, like, tried to make things interesting for me to not actively hate history. And now look at me. (And this is why I'm so passionate about my job, which isn't purely about just reciting facts but more getting people involved and interested in learning more.)
So something like Hamilton that is likely to appeal to people who might not otherwise have a reason to care about history is actually super important, I feel.
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"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
I get that attitude, honestly. I've been there myself in the past. I love history, I find it absolutely fascinating, and I've often joked that the reason I studied history instead of literature for my undergrad is because history has the better stories.
So every time I encounter someone who prefaces their love of something like Hamilton with a, "You know I usually don't enjoy history, but..." it raises my hackles a bit.
Because history is that good already, if you just are willing to throw yourself into it and learn about it.
Of course, getting pissy about that is the wrong attitude to take, because what the person said is not, "History blows, nerd" but "Wait maybe history is a cool thing, even if you are a giant nerd."
And I think it's sometimes hard to connect those dots, but that's what you gotta do.
It sounds like Mr Gs friend isn't even saying its good/interesting, just that they should know it because its important
which like, many things are
but time is not infinite
Yeah
I mean, history is really important
But that's why people devote their entire lives to studying it
Last week, the producers of “Hamilton” announced a partnership with The Rockefeller Foundation through which 20,000 underprivileged New York City high-school students will be given tickets for $10 (one Hamilton).
Students will be required to complete a research project on a historical figure, event or document and then turn their research into an “artistic expression,” such as a song or poem, which
they’ll then share with the cast of “Hamilton” before special student-only matinees.
The modern way Hamilton’s story is told — Miranda weaves rap, hip-hop, pop music and traditional Broadway together in one beautiful tapestry — along with the fact that the astonishingly talented cast is comprised of mostly black and Latino actors, has led to underprivileged, minority students coming away from the show with a changed view of America and themselves.
I spoke with a group of students at Democracy Prep Charter High School in Harlem who were fortunate to see the show during its run at The Public Theater. To say the show was mind-opening for them would be an understatement. “Hamilton” was a “profoundly transformative experience for our kids,” School Principal Natasha Trivers told me. It clearly was.
One African-American girl told me, “ ‘Hamilton’ made me realize that this is our country, too.”
a problem with how history is taught is that the people of history are dehumanized and good historical fiction reminds us that figures like alexander hamilton and aaron burr were still humans with lives, not just robots who did this thing at this date
Last week, the producers of “Hamilton” announced a partnership with The Rockefeller Foundation through which 20,000 underprivileged New York City high-school students will be given tickets for $10 (one Hamilton).
Students will be required to complete a research project on a historical figure, event or document and then turn their research into an “artistic expression,” such as a song or poem, which
they’ll then share with the cast of “Hamilton” before special student-only matinees.
The modern way Hamilton’s story is told — Miranda weaves rap, hip-hop, pop music and traditional Broadway together in one beautiful tapestry — along with the fact that the astonishingly talented cast is comprised of mostly black and Latino actors, has led to underprivileged, minority students coming away from the show with a changed view of America and themselves.
I spoke with a group of students at Democracy Prep Charter High School in Harlem who were fortunate to see the show during its run at The Public Theater. To say the show was mind-opening for them would be an understatement. “Hamilton” was a “profoundly transformative experience for our kids,” School Principal Natasha Trivers told me. It clearly was.
One African-American girl told me, “ ‘Hamilton’ made me realize that this is our country, too.”
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"She's married."
"I see..."
"She's married to a British officer"
"Oh shit"
Which is just suddenly not sung at all or any music behind it, it's just perfect
Edit: the thing is that even if it weren't historical, the music and performances are all incredible. It just happens to be about American history.
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If you stubbornly hate all hip hop, you won't like it.
Otherwise, it seems pretty great on every level.
I listened to it over the course of several days, just whenever I had the time, and it was perfectly fine
I'm enjoying it immensely, as a similarly non-American without prior experience of musicals
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The genius stuff really helps with stage setting and a brief on that moment in their lives/American history. My first listening did it reading the main annotation and then listening to the song, this will make it take longer though.
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You might even say it's NON-STOP
....I'm sorry
....I'll go now
why do you post like you're running out of time
little things, like before every show they hold a raffle to allow 21 lucky people to buy a front-row ticket for $10 (because hamiltons, of course), and because he wants even the people who don't win to get something special, every one of these raffles is accompanied by a 5-10 minute impromptu street performance by members of the cast doing something different every day
also his acceptance speech when he won his first Tony for In the Heights was absolutely incredible:
Immigrants, they get the job done.
He was even good there
Yeah, OK, jumped over to itunes and bought the broadway recording before this video was half done. Thanks for making me aware of this!
I told him it's inspiring people to learn more about the start of the country and slightly more obscure people like Hamilton and Burr
To which he said, and I'm damn near quoting
"Fuck those dumb fucks, they should know this shit already because it's important, not cause some stupid play made it cool"
He gets like this whenever any cultural thing is about history
Like clockwork, every year the new Assassin's Creed makes steam come out of his ears
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tell him literally every person alive thinks that the thing their major is about is the most important thing and everyone should know it
Actually don't tell him anything, thats a stupid shitty attitude
Also, he gets choked up reading the first few paragraphs of Chernow's book, which talk about Eliza in her later years.
(There's also classist undertones to assuming everyone should know certain things, but that's another discussion...)
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And I beleive every american citizen should understand the importance of proper password and online identity management
tough shiiiiiit
Alternatively, tell him to be careful how he proceeds, good man
jesus christ who has that kind of time?
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So every time I encounter someone who prefaces their love of something like Hamilton with a, "You know I usually don't enjoy history, but..." it raises my hackles a bit.
Because history is that good already, if you just are willing to throw yourself into it and learn about it.
Of course, getting pissy about that is the wrong attitude to take, because what the person said is not, "History blows, nerd" but "Wait maybe history is a cool thing, even if you are a giant nerd."
And I think it's sometimes hard to connect those dots, but that's what you gotta do.
Also, listening to Hamilton prompted me to buy and start reading Chernow's biography and bone up on my Revolutionary War knowledge, so boo to your friend.
I get it, but it's just not possible for a lot of people.
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It sounds like Mr Gs friend isn't even saying its good/interesting, just that they should know it because its important
which like, many things are
but time is not infinite
It should be real hard to make it uninteresting but people find a way
So something like Hamilton that is likely to appeal to people who might not otherwise have a reason to care about history is actually super important, I feel.
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Yeah
I mean, history is really important
But that's why people devote their entire lives to studying it
That's why we have historians
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If I didn't use certain songs to pace myself, it would have comprised the whole thing.
So good.
i'm not crying you're crying
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