As cool as winter, as hot as summer[Harry Dresden]-Peace Talks out in July!

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  • PeenPeen tw1tch0rz occasionallyRegistered User regular
    I've read an advanced copy of Peace Talks, it's regular novel length, nothing to worry about on that front.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Oh, definitely. But Butcher's writing got upended completely and it's understandable that Dresden gets priority there.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Tarantio wrote: »
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I guess that info is a spoiler, but it's not story related at all so not sure it is either, but suppose I'll go with the crowd (non-story spoiler ahoy)
    Let's hope the books just aren't the shortest ones yet to pull off 2 in one year. Doesn't seem likely, but worse things have happened.

    Pretty awesome news, though. Maybe he'll pick up speed again.

    Word on the subreddit is that Peace Talks was up to 400k words in the beta readers version
    before the split, which would make both of the resultant books potentially longer than any of the preceding books.

    There's also a Question and Answer session, available in video form but also helpfully transcribed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/fo859p/comment/flfthja

    That seems like a reasonable explanation.

    That video was pretty oof, other than the late reveal.

    To be fair, the video trailers for the books have been pretty rough since they started doing trailers for books.
    Consider: Skin Game.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler Registered User regular
    I mean effects companies and acting troupes all gotta start somewhere. It's not like this is financed by HBO.

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  • HeirHeir Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    I mean effects companies and acting troupes all gotta start somewhere. It's not like this is financed by HBO.

    One can dream.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I never knew they did real-life trailers for the books...

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited March 25
    Man, I don't think I've seen an actual video commercial for a book since they were hawking the Stephen King Collection back in the 90's.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    Man, I don't think I've seen an actual video commercial for a book since they were hawking the Stephen King Collection back in the 90's.

    Well, Dianetics.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    RT800 wrote: »
    Man, I don't think I've seen an actual video commercial for a book since they were hawking the Stephen King Collection back in the 90's.

    Well, Dianetics.

    First one I remember was Shadows of the Empire.
    But then, that book also had a sound track and a full on multi-media presence. The only thing it didn't have was the actual movie.
    Of course, that trailer is just a bunch of cut together clips from the OT and a voice over.

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  • PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Started my re-read yesterday after the announcement; and I'm moving onto book 2.

    I had completely forgotten how much ground work was laid in book one.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Penumbra wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Started my re-read yesterday after the announcement; and I'm moving onto book 2.

    I had completely forgotten how much ground work was laid in book one.

    Just started Dead Beat on my reread.
    Pretty sure this is where the covers just add "A Novel of the Dresden Files" instead of "Book X of the Dresden Files".

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Penumbra wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Started my re-read yesterday after the announcement; and I'm moving onto book 2.

    I had completely forgotten how much ground work was laid in book one.

    Just started Dead Beat on my reread.
    Pretty sure this is where the covers just add "A Novel of the Dresden Files" instead of "Book X of the Dresden Files".

    And that's exactly how I ended up starting the Dresden Files at Dead Beat, care of my local library.

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  • WACriminalWACriminal Dying Is Easy, Young Man Living Is HarderRegistered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Tarantio wrote: »
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I guess that info is a spoiler, but it's not story related at all so not sure it is either, but suppose I'll go with the crowd (non-story spoiler ahoy)
    Let's hope the books just aren't the shortest ones yet to pull off 2 in one year. Doesn't seem likely, but worse things have happened.

    Pretty awesome news, though. Maybe he'll pick up speed again.

    Word on the subreddit is that Peace Talks was up to 400k words in the beta readers version
    before the split, which would make both of the resultant books potentially longer than any of the preceding books.

    There's also a Question and Answer session, available in video form but also helpfully transcribed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/fo859p/comment/flfthja

    That seems like a reasonable explanation.

    That video was pretty oof, other than the late reveal.

    To be fair, the video trailers for the books have been pretty rough since they started doing trailers for books.
    Consider: Skin Game.

    I tried to watch this. I really did.

    I couldn't make it past the absurd accent Mab was doing.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Penumbra wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Started my re-read yesterday after the announcement; and I'm moving onto book 2.

    I had completely forgotten how much ground work was laid in book one.

    And now you get the same groundwork in book 2!

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    BTW feel free to spoil the big news. I was giving people a chance to be surprised the first day. I will leave that to the rest of the thread to decide.

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  • GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    Anybody mind if I do some speculating based on the trailer?

    I feel the need.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Anybody mind if I do some speculating based on the trailer?

    I feel the need.

    Feel free, though since it would be for the newest book throw it in spoilers for folks. Just mark it as speculation and such.

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  • GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    Okay so massive wild speculation about the new Book below

    Read at your own risk. Also because many of my ideas are probably crap.
    So the trailer is probably accurate but misleading. The last trailer for the last book turned out to be accurate but misleading. It showed Michael picking up the sword, the cast of thieves, etc. It also showed Harry and Karrin Murphy making love and that turned out to be a dream. And it gave us the greatest quote summarizing Harry's love life: "OH COME ON, NOT EVEN IN THE DREAM??!!"


    So from this trailer, we know that Thomas is in the shit. And accused of assassinating someone, and someone important enough to call a large scale meeting instead of just killing him.
    Member of the Black Council maybe? Maybe not. Very probably, since Marcone talks about pursuing his rights, it is someone who works for Marcone.

    Of course Lara would want to break Thomas out of that, as would Harry. Harry would lie down in interstate traffic for his family and friends. Which leads to that line that will probably be classic Harry for me (when read by James Marsters) of "Oh I'm more than dumb enough."

    But the thing of it is, if Harry breaks Mab's accords and in such a way that it involves bad PR for Mab, Mab wouldn't have been giving him a present for Maggie in that Christmas story. Mab would have Harry on a tree and be doing all kinds of unpleasant things to him to warn the next Winter Knight not to be a moron and fuck things up. Mab doesn't do evil for evil's sake, she pursues guarding reality via the most efficient and ruthless means possible. She also wants her rep maintained. She'll tolerate an attitude. Not fuckups.

    So what's Mab's angle in all this?

    There's a young woman sitting to Lara Raith's left in the meeting/table scene, I wonder if that's Ivy. She seems to show up every 5th book.

    As far as Lara/Harry getting it on. Possible, but likely as misleading as last trailer. Harry doesn't seem like the kind of guy to cheat.

    Also its weird that Harry obviously shifts to somewhere else, but things don't seem to change much. Is Harry going to be breaking the 6th Law?

    From what I have heard we are going to get to see the senior council let loose in this book, so that should be fun. Probably next book too, given the title.

    Also have you guys read the Short Story "Goodbye" ? Jim's right to call it microfiction, but that one hits hard a little. I got a little teary. It also contains massive spoilers, so do not read if you aren't caught up.

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  • ArdArd Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Penumbra wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I don't understand almost any of that trailer. I guess that means re-read priority just got kicked up a notch.
    Also not to seem ungrateful but sequel to aeronaut's windlass please!

    Started my re-read yesterday after the announcement; and I'm moving onto book 2.

    I had completely forgotten how much ground work was laid in book one.

    Just started Dead Beat on my reread.
    Pretty sure this is where the covers just add "A Novel of the Dresden Files" instead of "Book X of the Dresden Files".

    And that's exactly how I ended up starting the Dresden Files at Dead Beat, care of my local library.

    I did the exact same thing, except I bought it without looking into how many there were.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    There's a teaser up on Amazon for Battle Grounds.
    Spoiled for potential Peace Talks spoilers, also Battle Grounds spoilers.
    Harry has faced terrible odds before. He has a long history of fighting enemies above his weight class. The Red Court of vampires. The fallen angels of the Order of the Blackened Denarius. The Outsiders.

    But this time it’s different. A being more powerful and dangerous on an order of magnitude beyond what the world has seen in a millennium is coming. And she’s bringing an army. The Last Titan has declared war on the city of Chicago, and has come to subjugate humanity, obliterating any who stand in her way.

    Harry’s mission is simple but impossible: Save the city by killing a Titan. And the attempt will change Harry’s life, Chicago, and the mortal world forever.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    My dad just finished changes and had to text me just as he finished it.

    Such a good book.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    I guess the URL really covers it...
    https://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2020/battle-ground-cover-revealed
    Looks sharp.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    I guess the URL really covers it...
    https://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2020/battle-ground-cover-revealed
    Looks sharp.

    So that's totally

    skin game spoilers I think?
    The spear of longinus
    right?

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  • NitsuaNitsua Gloucester, VARegistered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    I guess the URL really covers it...
    https://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2020/battle-ground-cover-revealed
    Looks sharp.

    So that's totally

    skin game spoilers I think?
    The spear of longinus
    right?

    Looks like it. Attached to the top of his staff no less. You can zoom in and see the runes. He’s armed for bear, it seems.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited April 27
    KetBra wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    I guess the URL really covers it...
    https://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2020/battle-ground-cover-revealed
    Looks sharp.

    So that's totally

    skin game spoilers I think?
    The spear of longinus
    right?
    Possibly, though I think it unlikely. I think that would be saved for book 20 since it ties in really closely with the Denarian lore (assuming they keep the Denarians in every fifth book).
    I mean, there's no real shortage of legendary magic weapons given all the other fantasy lore that Dresden has played in that could be used to slay a titan, I'd imagine it might be something out of Greek myth?

    Maybe it's going to be Gugnir, Odin's spear? Seems like he's been around a lot in the recent books.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythological_objects#Pole_weapons

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    It’s not like we haven’t seen in the series that different legendary figures can all be different names for the same figure. Wouldn’t be off base to see the same for legendary items too.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    It’s not like we haven’t seen in the series that different legendary figures can all be different names for the same figure. Wouldn’t be off base to see the same for legendary items too.

    Butcher's done that as well. Looking at you Amoracchius.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    It’s not like we haven’t seen in the series that different legendary figures can all be different names for the same figure. Wouldn’t be off base to see the same for legendary items too.

    Butcher's done that as well. Looking at you Amoracchius.

    Although
    having Amoracchius also be Excalibur fits nicely while having Odin's weapon also be the Spear of Destiny seems a bit like crossing the mythological streams. It'd also mean that Santa Claus has the weapon that killed/confirmed the death of (depending on what you're reading) Christ... which is kinda creepy.

    And from a practical standpoint, Odin was spearing things in Changes, so odds are that they're two different weapons.

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  • LorekLorek Registered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    It’s not like we haven’t seen in the series that different legendary figures can all be different names for the same figure. Wouldn’t be off base to see the same for legendary items too.

    Butcher's done that as well. Looking at you Amoracchius.

    Although
    having Amoracchius also be Excalibur fits nicely while having Odin's weapon also be the Spear of Destiny seems a bit like crossing the mythological streams. It'd also mean that Santa Claus has the weapon that killed/confirmed the death of (depending on what you're reading) Christ... which is kinda creepy.

    And from a practical standpoint, Odin was spearing things in Changes, so odds are that they're two different weapons.

    I see what you did there.

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