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    AdusAdus Registered User regular
    is heroism really defined by how risky the act is? what about the result of said act (saving lives, etc)?

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Heroism is a virtue. It's non-consequential ethics. What matters is not the act's consequences but the attempt. So if you try and fail you are still heroic. And if you try and easily succeed, you are still heroic.

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    MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2015
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Morkath on
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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    "If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean, a big question the whole series raises is "What does it mean to be a hero?" and I think that's great.

    Aside from the absolutely hilarious commentary it provides.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Cambiata wrote: »

    This is it, the final dividing line in the web comic thread.

    Team Minicycle or Team Tuxedo, take your sides people, we fight at dawn.

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »

    This is it, the final dividing line in the web comic thread.

    Team Minicycle or Team Tuxedo, take your sides people, we fight at dawn.

    Ok, but how about this: Wearing tuxedos while riding minibikes.

    "If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    #teamMinibike

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »

    This is it, the final dividing line in the web comic thread.

    Team Minicycle or Team Tuxedo, take your sides people, we fight at dawn.

    Ok, but how about this: Wearing tuxedos while riding minibikes.

    While playing a children's card game.

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    MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »

    This is it, the final dividing line in the web comic thread.

    Team Minicycle or Team Tuxedo, take your sides people, we fight at dawn.

    Ok, but how about this: Wearing tuxedos while riding minibikes.

    Would they still be serving HorsD'?

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    DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

    They actually explain it eventually
    Basically, everyone has a built in biological limit to how powerful they can become. S Rank heroes have a very high limit

    Saitama's limit was very low. But through sheer force of will, he continues training beyond the limits of what he should be capable of, and in doing so he broke his natural limit. Now there's literally no ceiling on how powerful he can become

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    it kind of weirds me out that saitama really doesn't care about any feedback re: fanmail, positive or negative

    like

    if someone writes you a thank you note you could at least be a bit psyched about it

    well

    as shown in the meteor episode

    he isn't a hero because he wants other peoples' acclaim

    he does it for his own self-satisfaction

    Really he does it because he's a good guy, I think

    He probably wouldn't really recognise that in himself, but you do see it at times. Like when he just cheerfully remarks to Genos that power levels don't matter because when heroes run away there's no-one left to protect people (and Genos, bless him, immediately inscribes the words of the great Saitama for posterity). He doesn't really care about negative fan-mail because whatever, and positive fan mail is nice but he doesn't need his ego flattering. Mumen Rider finding him and them having some food together and being buddies is nice, though.

    There's a lot to say that Saitama is a very Buddha-like figure. Thoughtlessly wise, takes joy in the smallest of things, doesn't get mad about stuff besides annoyance at mundane little trivialities that usually arise from his own forgetfulness and he's not really upset at. Incomparably powerful, lives a totally normal life. Has a devoted follower who is utterly loyal to him and his teachings, and isn't even sure why this guy thinks he's worth hanging around.

    well that's kind of what i meant

    like, his self-satisfaction is in doing good things, so while it would be nice to be recognized it's not primary to his self-worth. there's a chinese phrase used in response to "who would know?" in response to ethical problems (like finding a lost wallet, seeing someone skimming goods, etc) that translates to "the heavens would know, the earth would know, I would know". that's kind of along the lines of how I think Saitama views things; as long as he knows he did good then he doesn't care too much about how other people view it.

    you see a lot of heroes in OPM that only care about looking cool/good to the public, but you see Mumen Rider and Saitama standing out from that kind of behavior.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Adus wrote: »
    is heroism really defined by how risky the act is? what about the result of said act (saving lives, etc)?

    This is in fact the question brought up in today's episode of OPM!

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    DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Speed, Can't read that Spoiler!! I'm only caught up on the anime, don't know anything past that.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

    They actually explain it eventually
    Basically, everyone has a built in biological limit to how powerful they can become. S Rank heroes have a very high limit

    Saitama's limit was very low. But through sheer force of will, he continues training beyond the limits of what he should be capable of, and in doing so he broke his natural limit. Now there's literally no ceiling on how powerful he can become

    I thought this was like a bullshit explaination given by a character trying to rationalize something but really had no idea what he was talking about

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited November 2015
    the theme of arbitrary "I meditated for ten thousand years and then I gained superpowers from my true self" transformations turns up a lot in east asian mythology, as an extrapolation of what buddhist/taoist/confucian meditation supposedly does for you

    ronya on
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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

    They actually explain it eventually
    Basically, everyone has a built in biological limit to how powerful they can become. S Rank heroes have a very high limit

    Saitama's limit was very low. But through sheer force of will, he continues training beyond the limits of what he should be capable of, and in doing so he broke his natural limit. Now there's literally no ceiling on how powerful he can become

    I thought this was like a bullshit explaination given by a character trying to rationalize something but really had no idea what he was talking about

    You could take it that way I suppose
    the fact that the Garou breaks his limit so hard that he turns into a monster seems to support the theory though

    Speed Racer on
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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »

    This is it, the final dividing line in the web comic thread.

    Team Minicycle or Team Tuxedo, take your sides people, we fight at dawn.

    I'm on Team Please God Wait Until The Comic Is Colored In Before Powting Because It's Kind of Hard To Read This Way

    And also Team End This Arc And Go Back To Commander Being Adorable With Children

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

    They actually explain it eventually
    Basically, everyone has a built in biological limit to how powerful they can become. S Rank heroes have a very high limit

    Saitama's limit was very low. But through sheer force of will, he continues training beyond the limits of what he should be capable of, and in doing so he broke his natural limit. Now there's literally no ceiling on how powerful he can become

    I thought this was like a bullshit explaination given by a character trying to rationalize something but really had no idea what he was talking about

    You could take it that way I suppose
    the fact that the Garou breaks his limit so hard that he turns into a monster seems to support the theory though
    I always figured he was just a heroic version of the "i ate to much crab now im a crab person!!!!!" guys

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.

    I agree with this, but I also want to call out.

    When he started off, he was "weaker" than Mumen Rider, and still risked his own life against a monster to save that kid. Which is probably part of the reason he isn't being patronizing when he said that. He does literally know how Mumen feels and respects him for that. Saitama needs to take him on as a second pupil, I bet his training regimen would help!

    He also kind of shows off his own heroism, in the fact he doesn't care if he is labeled a cheat and a villain, he is still going to protect people. Most of the other people in the association would not make that sacrifice, especially the ones at the top.

    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.

    Mild spoilers for One Punch Man:
    My favorite part of Saitama's character is that he has absolutely no idea how he got so powerful. I disagree that his training regimen would help Mumen Rider. As Genos points out early on, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 10 Km a day isn't even that crazy of a regimen!

    Saitama is utterly confused as to why everyone else in the world isn't as powerful as he is, and it's AWESOME.

    They actually explain it eventually
    Basically, everyone has a built in biological limit to how powerful they can become. S Rank heroes have a very high limit

    Saitama's limit was very low. But through sheer force of will, he continues training beyond the limits of what he should be capable of, and in doing so he broke his natural limit. Now there's literally no ceiling on how powerful he can become

    I thought this was like a bullshit explaination given by a character trying to rationalize something but really had no idea what he was talking about

    You could take it that way I suppose
    the fact that the Garou breaks his limit so hard that he turns into a monster seems to support the theory though

    It's possible you are further along than I am so to be clear I've only read what's been posted
    and I took the house of evolution guy's speech as just making stuff up cause he can't explain it

    if something else happens with garou that supports it then maybe you're right but garou as he stands (splats) now isn't really any stronger than the other super strong martially gifted humans we've seen

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    The thing I like about OPM is that it approaches what could be a pretty grim serious Superhero srs bsns question for a superhero comic to naval gaze to death, and instead makes it really funny.

    ...Also the arc we're on right now has some actually legit good superhero fights

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.
    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.
    I'd take issue with that, there's plenty of people in real life who we call heroes who don't risk their life and limb to help others. Maybe that's an issue of people using the word 'hero' too freely though.

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    MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    What Saitama wants is to be that brave superhero who battles on against impossible odds. And that's what he doesn't get to have, he's so strong there's no suspense or risk or challenge. He doesn't really mind people not acknowledging him as a hero because he doesn't consider himself heroic when he's not taking any risk in the first place. The people he respects aren't the strong heroes, they're the ones like Licenseless Rider who know they're overmatched and fight to protect people anyway. He's not being patronizing when he tells Rider "good fight", that's just the way he views being a hero. So he'd far prefer people talk shit about him than have them disrespect the heroism of all the heroes who actually risked themselves before he got there.

    Saitama isn't exactly a commentary on the more invincible versions of Superman, but he easily could be. If winning is as easy as crushing an ant, you're hardly going to feel heroic in doing so.
    Gvzbgul;
    I would say if the act has absolutely zero risk, it is not heroic. You are not doing anything that should not be expected of you. Saitama taking half a second to punch a monster to death that is trying to eat a child is not heroic, because there is absolutely zero cost to him for doing it. It is a good and just action, it makes him a good and unselfish person, but for him not heroic.
    I'd take issue with that, there's plenty of people in real life who we call heroes who don't risk their life and limb to help others. Maybe that's an issue of people using the word 'hero' too freely though.

    What if I said cost instead of risk?

    Although I do agree that hero is thrown around too much.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    I've honestly forgotten what's currently happening in punchline is machismo

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I've honestly forgotten what's currently happening in punchline is machismo

    Captain B.A.'s squad/siblings went on a survival retreat and took his girlfriend along. She's in plate armor for protection and can skin a wild boar to the bone in seconds.

    Cyborg Eye brother trained a squad of raptors and made them armor out of the arm of B.A.'s girlfriend's armor.

    B.A. just walked into a lake because his squadmate/brother Tank was off his meds again....or on his meds again because he turned up the dial on his aggression juice.

    tl;dr

    Time travel survival games

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    GoldenSeducerGoldenSeducer AAAAAUGH!! Registered User regular
    Man, I dunno. Saitama was totes psyched about that thank you note he got. He is just the kind of guy who cherishes things internally.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    also idk if you guys noticed but saitama literally
    punched the rain away when he hit the sea king

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
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    Oh hey, I was waiting for that.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
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    mildred, eww

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
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    I'm really confused now, is the one that came back or the one that never left?

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
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    I'm really confused now, is the one that came back or the one that never left?

    Never left. "Sweetheart" is the one that came back.

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    Steam | SW-0844-0908-6004 and my Switch code
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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
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    The nice thing about having smart people as protagonists is that they can put two and two together a lot quicker and save the readers some frustration.

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    Reach Heaven Through Violence
    “On the topic of dogs, a passing priest once pressed me quite fervently on the subject of my own mortality. He was very concerned about preserving the nature of my immortal essence after the four great elements of my body collapsed into themselves. “Grandson,” said I, “I am old and my bones are sopping with death already. Why should I care?” He went on to describe in great detail the rituals that could be undertaken to guard one’s soul against degradation and ensure smooth passage to the next realm.

    “Do you perform these rites every day?” I asked him, trying to humor him. “Of course, auntie,” said the priest, “Every morning before I wake fully I perform my rites, then four more times a day before rest. It keeps me in good health and spirits, knowing that my death will be a golden door to paradise.”

    “Four times a day?” I said, incredulous. “Of course,” said the priest, “Don’t you think about dying, auntie? You should be worried, at your age.”

    “Do you think about dying?” I asked him. “How about before sleep?”

    “Yes,” he said, seeing that I was clearly straining his good nature. “How about when you bathe?” I asked him. He thought a moment. “Well, sometimes,” he replied. “How about when you shit?” I said. “Never,” he said brusquely.

    “Not even once?”

    “Well maybe once, but I don’t see the point! Who knows?” he said, clearly seeking to draw away from me and peddle his wares onto more the more gullible trash that populated the gutter. “A dog has more sense than you,” I said to him, and thumbed at a lazy mutt that was picking through the market. “He doesn’t think of death at all. Not when he sleeps, not when he bathes, and certainly not when he shits.”

    “And I supposed there’s a point,” said the priest.

    “You and he will both die.” ‘

    -Meti, of the Yellow City

    KILL SIX BILLION DEMONS

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
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    We'll just pretend the joke works when stated in active voice.
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    what's going on in k6bd

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