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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Also that looks like it might be Bucky in the back? Happy if he's showing up in a book again

    Bucky or Ian?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Nick Spencer has been killing it on Sam Wilson and wrote a great Steve Rogers in that book so it will probably be good?

    Like if he was replacing Sam I would be pissed but Sam keeping the title and original shield works for me

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    So Spencer will be writing both Cap books?

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I don't know if it counts as diversity if you have Captain America and then Black Captain America off to the side

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  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Ugh

    I wish we had old man steve for a bit longer

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Also that looks like it might be Bucky in the back? Happy if he's showing up in a book again

    Bucky or Ian?
    Looks a lot more like Bucky to me

    Plus Ian
    seemingly died in a very dumb way at the end of Hail Hydra and while he could be back that would be really quick

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I don't know if it counts as diversity if you have Captain America and then Black Captain America off to the side
    Except Sam Wilson still has his own book? And it came first?

    He is literally only to the side on that cover because it is Steve's book.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    So Spencer will be writing both Cap books?
    Yup

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Also that looks like it might be Bucky in the back? Happy if he's showing up in a book again

    Bucky or Ian?
    Looks a lot more like Bucky to me

    Plus Ian
    seemingly died in a very dumb way at the end of Hail Hydra and while he could be back that would be really quick
    A whole lot of heroes died on Battleworld, I'm not really going to assume any are permanent at this point.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    hey fearghail how's wicdiv been

    i kinda fell off after the wodan issue because it felt like the story was just sort of moving sideways and broadening and that wasn't as compelling to me as the forward movement it had in the first two arcs

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I don't know if it counts as diversity if you have Captain America and then Black Captain America off to the side

    Well it's Steve's book, not Sam's. Sam has his own which I'm sure would put Steve off to the side in the same way. Now if it was a team book, that'd make the issue worth arguing over but I'm not gonna call a social foul on this cover just because they want to put the main character up front.

  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    I would almost rather have Sam Cap, Old Cap, and then Alternative Universe / Avengers Forever "plucked from the past" Steve Rogers Cap. I'm sure Spencer will do a fine job regardless, the Sam Cap book has been fun (and the first few issues completely won my 11 yr old nephew over on the book).

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    "No Sam Wilson is the real Cap. But Steve Rogers is also Cap! Miles Morales is the real mainline Marvel Spider-Man, we're just putting Peter Parker out front and center first!" Is a pretty shitty way of moving forward in making your line-up more varied and diverse.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I'm not talking about the cover, I'm saying in their lineup

    It's the same thing with Spider-Man

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the cover, I'm saying in their lineup

    It's the same thing with Spider-Man
    I mean

    How are they shoving Sam to the side?

    He is still the Cap on the flagship Avengers title and the same dude is writing both his and Steve's books?

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Looking forward to the announcement for DUDE THOR any day now.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Did both sam and steve legally change their last names to America

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2016
    Spencer says that Sam Wilson will continue focusing on topical political issues while Steve Rogers will be more of a spy action title with Steve taking on a resurgent Hydra.

    Steve's new shield has an energy blade at the edge which Steve will use for utility, not slicing dudes, and can split in half so he can have two smaller buckler esque shields

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    So we have two Caps, three Spider-Men, two Spider-Women and probably two Thors soon, plus the X-Kids who still have modern counterparts.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    hey fearghail how's wicdiv been

    i kinda fell off after the wodan issue because it felt like the story was just sort of moving sideways and broadening and that wasn't as compelling to me as the forward movement it had in the first two arcs

    still moving sideways, with one-off issues highlighting various members of the Pantheon with a different artist each issue.

    strikes me as a combination of trying to flesh out the world a little, and also to give McKelvie time to draw Phonogram before moving forward with the story

    Woden was 14, so there's been Amaterasu (drawn by the amazing Stephanie Hans), Morrigan (drawn by the fantastic Leila Del Duca), and Sekhmet (drawn by some Brandon Graham dude). That's the end of the arc though, story resumes in 18.

    One thing in 17 though, the one-page McKelvie bit at the end
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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    that's neat though still sort of hits at the problem i had with the one page bits in most of them, where it's like...the teaser to the upcoming story over and over again

    i'll probably respect the pace a lot more like, a year from now when it's all collected, but deffo not what i'm looking for when following it now month to month

    oh well! still good enough that i'll eagerly hop back in the second it's pressing forward again, and i'll definitely pick up the trade as soon as it's out

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    That Cap looks dopey

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Damn Twitter cropping

    Literally did not see that Sam was on the cover, and much more importantly, the series is called Captain America: Steve Rogers

    I was under the impression there was CAPTAIN AMERICA and CAPTAIN AMERICA: SAM WILSON, which reads a whole lot different to me tonally

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Like

    I get the kinda shitty part of having Steve as a Cap back

    But, unlike the Miles/Peter marketing debacle (that in hindsight seems made worse by Secret Wars' delay because they seemed intent on keeping how Miles' survived/who came with him hidden until the issues 8 and 9) Sam is still Cap with the original shield and still on the main Avengers team and still having a major ongoing series.

    I would have been totally fine with Sam being the only Cap for longer, but people love Steve Rogers as Captain America and he's been Old Man Steve for a year and half to two years now, so I get why they would want to bring him back.

    Having the two of them co-exist is kinda having their cake and eating it too, but when it comes to characters that people love dearly and have been around for 75 years I understand why they are opting for having multiple characters share the title because as awesome as Sam Wilson as Cap has been, people will always want Steve Rogers as Cap too.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I'm not about to tell anyone they're wrong for being disappointed in this move

    But I am totally the guy that loves Steve Rogers as Captain America and will gladly read another Steve Rogers Captain America book

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    What if Steve came back as the falcon

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    What if Steve came back as the falcon

    I mean, he could be a Falcon, but the Falcon is Steve Colbert

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    What if Steve came back as the falcon
    They just made a new Falcon in Sam's book

    He's a Latino teenager

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    You can have two falcons

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    You can have two falcons
    You can!

    But this one is brand new so he should be solo for a bit

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited January 2016
    So we have two Caps, three Spider-Men, two Spider-Women and probably two Thors soon, plus the X-Kids who still have modern counterparts.

    don't forget the two Hawkeyes!

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Bring back Nomad.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Sam "Two Falcons" Wilson

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    So we have two Caps, three Spider-Men, two Spider-Women and probably two Thors soon, plus the X-Kids who still have modern counterparts.

    don't forget the two Hawkeyes!

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Bring back Nomad.

    Just be sure to bring back the original costume, and have Old Steve in it:

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    What if in like avengers 7 they space jam the 616 characters as cartoons on top of live action

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  • Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    it's pretty dumb that they would outright call him Captain America with Sam still holding the title

    especially since there's precedent for this exact situation, with Steve letting Bucky keep the title and essentially just being Cap in everything but name

    it seems kinda shitty in this case that Marvel would choose to have him "share" the title

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
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    This is a nice cover. It's pretty neat to see Bucky's Cap-suit again too.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Would it be Captain Americas or Captains America?

    Captupii?

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    50 captains for each state that fuse into captain america

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