So I do have a question that is game related. I assume that the answer is yes give what I read in these threads, but just want to confirm.
So when I get the original core set, I can play it with the new core set right? I ask since I was thinking of using them together to have 2 x-wings vs. 4 TIEs at one point.
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So I do have a question that is game related. I assume that the answer is yes give what I read in these threads, but just want to confirm.
So when I get the original core set, I can play it with the new core set right? I ask since I was thinking of using them together to have 2 x-wings vs. 4 TIEs at one point.
Yeah.
The ships in the two different cores are just different ships, just like a Y-Wing is different from a B-Wing, that happen to look almost exactly the same and share a designation that allows them to take certain upgrades.
So I do have a question that is game related. I assume that the answer is yes give what I read in these threads, but just want to confirm.
So when I get the original core set, I can play it with the new core set right? I ask since I was thinking of using them together to have 2 x-wings vs. 4 TIEs at one point.
Honestly, the new X-Wing is just flat-out better than the old one. From a competitive standpoint, there's no reason to get the old ones when you could get the new ones instead.
Not necessarily so.
Four T-65's and a Z are at a substantial mathematical and tactical advantage over four T-70's.
If the T-65's win the initiative roll, they are basically guaranteed victory. If they lose the initiative roll, they are still at an advantage.
The three points you pay for the bump to T-70 are a pretty big deal. You get a lot for them, but the opportunity cost is likewise high. For all of it's nifty shenanigans, it's still a jouster.
Boost isn't really a big deal, except that it lets you take Autothrusters - but if you do that, you sacrifice the ability to take four of them.
The extra Talon Roll options are nice, but are most helpful against big-base turrets as an alternative to K-turn 4.
Basically T-65 vs T-70 is a question of your local metagame. If you have a lot of people flying fat turrets, the T-70 is the better option. If not, the T-65 is likely to be more efficient.
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Honestly, the new X-Wing is just flat-out better than the old one. From a competitive standpoint, there's no reason to get the old ones when you could get the new ones instead.
Honestly, the new X-Wing is just flat-out better than the old one. From a competitive standpoint, there's no reason to get the old ones when you could get the new ones instead.
But on the flip side you definitely want to play the original TIEs.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
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Honestly, the new X-Wing is just flat-out better than the old one. From a competitive standpoint, there's no reason to get the old ones when you could get the new ones instead.
This honestly isn't true. Poe Dameron is what makes the T-70 so widely used - but the ship isn't a clear cut winner. Especially as integrated astromech with a 1 pt droid makes the T65 almost as cost effective a jouster as a B-Wing.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
Not necessarily so.
Four T-65's and a Z are at a substantial mathematical and tactical advantage over four T-70's.
If the T-65's win the initiative roll, they are basically guaranteed victory. If they lose the initiative roll, they are still at an advantage.
The three points you pay for the bump to T-70 are a pretty big deal. You get a lot for them, but the opportunity cost is likewise high. For all of it's nifty shenanigans, it's still a jouster.
Boost isn't really a big deal, except that it lets you take Autothrusters - but if you do that, you sacrifice the ability to take four of them.
The extra Talon Roll options are nice, but are most helpful against big-base turrets as an alternative to K-turn 4.
Basically T-65 vs T-70 is a question of your local metagame. If you have a lot of people flying fat turrets, the T-70 is the better option. If not, the T-65 is likely to be more efficient.
T-70 has, in comparison to the T-65, built in engine upgrade (4 points), built in shield upgrade (4 points) and an outright superior dial (unsure how much Tallon Roll or the extra straight green should be worth).
For 3 extra points.
It's a p good deal.
(though, no, I wouldn't recommend bringing a list of 4 Xs, of any flavor, to a competitive event).
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I was thinking of Rey pilot/crew wise as being two or three 'surprise' movement actions. So you get rid of a token to perform a free boost/evade/barrel roll of your choice
Thing is, Engine Upgrade isn't intrinsically worth four points. Neither is Shield Upgrade.
If they were, people would be putting them on everything. How many points is Engine Upgrade worth on an Academy TIE? What about Shield Upgrade?
They are contingently useful, and the basic X-wing package simply doesn't need them to do it's job.
Are they nice to have? Yeah! The T-70 is indeed a pretty good deal. It just doesn't obviate the T-65.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I could totally see there being a Special Forces Title for the TIE/fo that gave it the auxillary firing arc and the ability to use missiles.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I was thinking of Rey pilot/crew wise as being two or three 'surprise' movement actions. So you get rid of a token to perform a free boost/evade/barrel roll of your choice
Yeah, I could see Rey as a YT pilot with the ability "Spend your Target Lock to perform a boost or barrel roll action" and Fin as a crew that rerolls any blanks when you attack or reroll one blank. Fin, in the movie as a gunner seemed like he was getting lucky shots vs. having any skill, so I wouldn't have him turning things into automatic hits or crits.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I was thinking of Rey pilot/crew wise as being two or three 'surprise' movement actions. So you get rid of a token to perform a free boost/evade/barrel roll of your choice
Yeah, I could see Rey as a YT pilot with the ability "Spend your Target Lock to perform a boost or barrel roll action" and Fin as a crew that rerolls any blanks when you attack or reroll one blank. Fin, in the movie as a gunner seemed like he was getting lucky shots vs. having any skill, so I wouldn't have him turning things into automatic hits or crits.
To be fair, in the movie Finn had all of 30 seconds to learn the gunnery systems of the TIE fighter and maybe that much to learn the Falcons and seemed to be under some really nasty PTSD symptoms. The fact that he hit anything at all under those circumstances should be pretty impressive. Luck or not.
No fair comparing him to Skywalker in Ep4. Luke had the force helping.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I was thinking of Rey pilot/crew wise as being two or three 'surprise' movement actions. So you get rid of a token to perform a free boost/evade/barrel roll of your choice
Yeah, I could see Rey as a YT pilot with the ability "Spend your Target Lock to perform a boost or barrel roll action" and Fin as a crew that rerolls any blanks when you attack or reroll one blank. Fin, in the movie as a gunner seemed like he was getting lucky shots vs. having any skill, so I wouldn't have him turning things into automatic hits or crits.
To be fair, in the movie Finn had all of 30 seconds to learn the gunnery systems of the TIE fighter and maybe that much to learn the Falcons and seemed to be under some really nasty PTSD symptoms. The fact that he hit anything at all under those circumstances should be pretty impressive. Luck or not.
No fair comparing him to Skywalker in Ep4. Luke had the force helping.
And he used to bullseye womprats in his T-16 back home.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
How about Rey as a YT pilot?
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
I was thinking of Rey pilot/crew wise as being two or three 'surprise' movement actions. So you get rid of a token to perform a free boost/evade/barrel roll of your choice
Yeah, I could see Rey as a YT pilot with the ability "Spend your Target Lock to perform a boost or barrel roll action" and Fin as a crew that rerolls any blanks when you attack or reroll one blank. Fin, in the movie as a gunner seemed like he was getting lucky shots vs. having any skill, so I wouldn't have him turning things into automatic hits or crits.
To be fair, in the movie Finn had all of 30 seconds to learn the gunnery systems of the TIE fighter and maybe that much to learn the Falcons and seemed to be under some really nasty PTSD symptoms. The fact that he hit anything at all under those circumstances should be pretty impressive. Luck or not.
No fair comparing him to Skywalker in Ep4. Luke had the force helping.
And he used to bullseye womprats in his T-16 back home.
I think it's time to just come out and say it.
The womp rats had it coming.
In preparation for Star Wars tomorrow, the wife and I watched RotJ and played X-Wing! The Empire didn't fare so well in either...
That poor TIE-Fighter (#2) landed full on an asteroid before putting himself in a killzone. Silly Academy Pilots! On the plus side, the wife rolled 3 hits on Biggs dropping him to 2 Hull.
This turned out crazy for me after cold dice on her part. Biggs lived and her other ships took minor damage.
After this blood bath, the wife missed with her Interceptor and lost it on return fire from Cracken. Kyle cleaned up the severally damaged TIE-Fighter behind the formation. Our youngster needed feeding and she threw in the towel.
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Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
There's the Rebel Transport that I'd be willing to bet would be a large based ship in an upcoming wave. Maybe include a General Leia Organa as a crew card.
Sure, it looked like a pregnant B-wing, but it might enable some fun shenanigans. I mean, Imps got the Lambda class shuttle, I'd think that the transport could fill a similar role. Maybe get the rebels some two slot crew like Palpatine?
Other than that though, looks like we'll be watching Rebels for new ships in the meantime.
Not a lot of new ships to really pull from. T-70 alt color for Poe's ship and that ship that Ben Vader guy used. Hell, we didn't see any other ships, like the B-wing or A-wings. Not that the movie needed them but for our game, it hurt a bit. Hopefully Rebels will give us some new ships to kill our wallets with.
There's the Rebel Transport that I'd be willing to bet would be a large based ship in an upcoming wave. Maybe include a General Leia Organa as a crew card.
Sure, it looked like a pregnant B-wing, but it might enable some fun shenanigans. I mean, Imps got the Lambda class shuttle, I'd think that the transport could fill a similar role. Maybe get the rebels some two slot crew like Palpatine?
Other than that though, looks like we'll be watching Rebels for new ships in the meantime.
Interestingly, the Visual Dictionary says the Resistance Transports are in fact made from scrapped and surplus B-Wings.
Boy, I can't wait so see the movie, so I can read the other half of the posts in this thread.
If it's any consolation, very few of the spoilers here relate to the plot, we're just talking about ships from the movie that may or may not appear on a tabletop near you.
But with the internet in general being up in arms about possible spoilers, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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they do, and they did
I don't know offhand what the fuel is
the only other detail I remember is that, weirdly enough, sublight engines use way more fuel than hyperdrives
in other news, the rest of Wave VIII has changed to On the Boat
hopefully that means we should see it in stores around the end of january
They do! "Hyperfuel" is what it's usually referred to.
Hyperspace travel sips it, and combat dogfighting gulps it.
In the X-Wing novels, they even attach drop tanks to X-Wings at one point!
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Inks seem to work well.
Is that G&G or Uncle? Either way, enjoy the shooting and the show!
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Four T-65's and a Z are at a substantial mathematical and tactical advantage over four T-70's.
If the T-65's win the initiative roll, they are basically guaranteed victory. If they lose the initiative roll, they are still at an advantage.
The three points you pay for the bump to T-70 are a pretty big deal. You get a lot for them, but the opportunity cost is likewise high. For all of it's nifty shenanigans, it's still a jouster.
Boost isn't really a big deal, except that it lets you take Autothrusters - but if you do that, you sacrifice the ability to take four of them.
The extra Talon Roll options are nice, but are most helpful against big-base turrets as an alternative to K-turn 4.
Basically T-65 vs T-70 is a question of your local metagame. If you have a lot of people flying fat turrets, the T-70 is the better option. If not, the T-65 is likely to be more efficient.
Can't wait to crack those spoilers up-thread :P
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I mainly bought the original core set since it was on sale and I love the original deigns (not to mention my wife does as well).
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But on the flip side you definitely want to play the original TIEs.
This honestly isn't true. Poe Dameron is what makes the T-70 so widely used - but the ship isn't a clear cut winner. Especially as integrated astromech with a 1 pt droid makes the T65 almost as cost effective a jouster as a B-Wing.
But yeah, I mostly see a recolored T-70 and Kylo Ren's shuttle in our future.
T-70 has, in comparison to the T-65, built in engine upgrade (4 points), built in shield upgrade (4 points) and an outright superior dial (unsure how much Tallon Roll or the extra straight green should be worth).
For 3 extra points.
It's a p good deal.
(though, no, I wouldn't recommend bringing a list of 4 Xs, of any flavor, to a competitive event).
If they were, people would be putting them on everything. How many points is Engine Upgrade worth on an Academy TIE? What about Shield Upgrade?
They are contingently useful, and the basic X-wing package simply doesn't need them to do it's job.
Are they nice to have? Yeah! The T-70 is indeed a pretty good deal. It just doesn't obviate the T-65.
Is my current one. Kinda debating going to a generic punisher to free up more points though not sure what I'd use with them.
And he used to bullseye womprats in his T-16 back home.
I think it's time to just come out and say it.
The womp rats had it coming.
That poor TIE-Fighter (#2) landed full on an asteroid before putting himself in a killzone. Silly Academy Pilots! On the plus side, the wife rolled 3 hits on Biggs dropping him to 2 Hull.
This turned out crazy for me after cold dice on her part. Biggs lived and her other ships took minor damage.
After this blood bath, the wife missed with her Interceptor and lost it on return fire from Cracken. Kyle cleaned up the severally damaged TIE-Fighter behind the formation. Our youngster needed feeding and she threw in the towel.
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Sure, it looked like a pregnant B-wing, but it might enable some fun shenanigans. I mean, Imps got the Lambda class shuttle, I'd think that the transport could fill a similar role. Maybe get the rebels some two slot crew like Palpatine?
Other than that though, looks like we'll be watching Rebels for new ships in the meantime.
But with the internet in general being up in arms about possible spoilers, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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