this is like the worst possible point in the story to say joyce is decent tbh :P
Compared to 'Christians' like Mary and Becky's dad, I'd have to disagree. She just needs some proper support since right now she's got both the trauma of being roofied by a minister's son to be sexually taken advantage of and being in a situation with her best friend being taken away at gunpoint by said best friend's family.
Yes, being angry for a few days because of traumatic experience make Joyce unrepairably assholish, it will never change, everything nice about her suddenly ceased to exist.
Joyce is pretty decent, particularly since she's actually willing to consider other points of views and maybe even change facets of her own.
It definitely feels like Joyce has been positioned as the person who eventually gives up her religion rather than someone who reconciles it with progressive beliefs, though.
Like, that's the impression I've been getting from her character arc for quite a while now.
Yes, being angry for a few days because of traumatic experience make Joyce unrepairably assholish, it will never change, everything nice about her suddenly ceased to exist.
Because decent people never have worse days.
well when you're talking to someone like me who has already said they don't read DOA and just catch it intermittently
Joyce is pretty decent, particularly since she's actually willing to consider other points of views and maybe even change facets of her own.
It definitely feels like Joyce has been positioned as the person who eventually gives up her religion rather than someone who reconciles it with progressive beliefs, though.
Like, that's the impression I've been getting from her character arc for quite a while now.
Maybe. But I would point out that original recipe Joyce had her crisis and came out christian.
And I can see Mary trying to hold that over Ruth's head to get out of any sort of punishment for her remark.
Yeah, I imagine that's the direction it could go. If so, then I hope some third-party whom Mary doesn't have dirt on stands up to her transphobic bullshit, though I don't know exactly who could. Maybe Leslie?
Man, do not look back there. It's like a racoon got hit by a car, and its meaty insides became meaty, furry outsides, but before he breathed his dying breath, he tried to cut my hair and did an awful job of it.
Frustratingly, I was at a bit of a loss for a lot of the mundane details here. Researching police procedure of yore has often proven fruitless. It's difficult to pin down in part because it's dated, I presume, but it's also not something that seems to be well documented - at least not for the layperson. Apparently, it also varied a great deal from state to state and municipality to municipality. The handcuffing (among other things) might appear awkward here, but I fell back almost entirely on photo reference for lack of more official material. That way, it was at least not difficult to infer that suspects and prisoners might be cuffed in front, cuffed behind the back, or even cuffed to an officer's wrist (something rather frowned upon today) for escort.
we basically never see happy fun moments between characters, the camera is only turned on them when they're at each other's throats
even now when we had the fun of dinosaur and becky, as soon as the date strip is over someone has to turn to dinosaur and say SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU
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Presumably the same reason every character in Demon is a smug, amoral shit. It takes true mastery to avoid leaving parts of yourself in the characters you write.
I'm not really intending this as a burn on Willis. Sometimes the part you leave is one you have otherwise managed to bury.
Comics like DOA don't have much humor to fall back on, so it needs conflict to drive the story. The problem is that the conflict either seems artificial or a caricature instead of something genuinely disheartening or threatening to the characters. They move too fast for it to really stick to most of them, which is a problem because conflict isn't just a mechanic to be employed in a story randomly, it's intended to be the catalyst for characters to change, something I have only really seen Joyce do.
we basically never see happy fun moments between characters, the camera is only turned on them when they're at each other's throats
even now when we had the fun of dinosaur and becky, as soon as the date strip is over someone has to turn to dinosaur and say SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU
being around people their age (as a somewhat older person) has led me to the realization that their lives are just constantly full of stupid bullshit; I'm not sure why this is, other than that maybe that's just been the status quo since gradeschool and they're yet to figure out it can be different
I think a lot of my time in undergrad probably was too? I would like to think my peer group were better adjusted but probably not by that much
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God, we're finally getting a hint at the layout and security of Hunter's Palace! I was beginning to think Shiga would never take us through each stage in the security setup, from outside in or inside out. Boy, I'm so glad that we're going through it all so we understand the challenges our heroes have to overcome!
Joyce in DOA is basically a Willis self-insert character. He's having her go through the same sort of Christ-Crisis that he did growing up and going through college. A good deal of the Christians are likely directly drawn from his life in some way or another.
No one told college students that once they left their parents' home, they had to act like adults and blindly follow the same patterns that got them through high school (Walky and Mary). At some point, you have to stop using mommy and daddie's words and use your own, draw a line and hold it (Joyce).
Willis is using Christianity and transphobia as the catalyst for all this in this latest ark but it lacks weight due to the fact that we already saw a father attempt to get his daughter reprogrammed. Chaining them one after the other seems cheap.
Furthermore, he doesn't show the side of Christianity that runs out into the world to do good and gets gunned down in their own home because they tried to be a good Christian. Show me a man or woman that tries to follow the words of their teacher and is violently rejected by the world.
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I'm doing much better now, but I must have spent at least 3 weeks with green snot around new years. I had come to accept that it was just my life now, as punishment for my hubris.
The title means "not cold", and is also what people will constantly say to you questioningly if you aren't bundled up properly. Even inside!! Where the heater's on!! Come on guys!
we basically never see happy fun moments between characters, the camera is only turned on them when they're at each other's throats
even now when we had the fun of dinosaur and becky, as soon as the date strip is over someone has to turn to dinosaur and say SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU
Given that the comic is apparently more or less in real time(Each day taking place over an entire fucking chapter) their lives are literally non-stop drama, so they really don't have much in the way of fun moments. There's basically no time for it.
Also not a lot of room for character growth, since the entire run (going on year 6) has covered a whopping 34 days. Not even 5 whole weeks, what the fuck.
My main beef with dumbing of age is that it isn't balanced. It's just pure non-stop drama. In order for me to care about a character going through drama, they have to usually be doing literally anything else. It's a narrative scarcity value. It just gets meaningless after a while because that just becomes the status quo.
Inversely, Questionable Content does the exact opposite of this.
we basically never see happy fun moments between characters, the camera is only turned on them when they're at each other's throats
even now when we had the fun of dinosaur and becky, as soon as the date strip is over someone has to turn to dinosaur and say SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU
Given that the comic is apparently more or less in real time(Each day taking place over an entire fucking chapter) their lives are literally non-stop drama, so they really don't have much in the way of fun moments. There's basically no time for it.
Also not a lot of room for character growth, since the entire run (going on year 6) has covered a whopping 34 days. Not even 5 whole weeks, what the fuck.
I mean that first problem could be solved by Willis not writing drama for at least a couple weeks and instead having fun stuff
The complaint was that the comic has been all cuthroat drama all the time and you responded that it was because it is in such a short time frame so their lives are in fact drama all the time
The time frame doesn't matter that much, what matters is Willis constantly writing all drama all the time in that time frame
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Compared to 'Christians' like Mary and Becky's dad, I'd have to disagree. She just needs some proper support since right now she's got both the trauma of being roofied by a minister's son to be sexually taken advantage of and being in a situation with her best friend being taken away at gunpoint by said best friend's family.
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Why?
Also Becky may be annoying but she aint a bad person.
Because decent people never have worse days.
It definitely feels like Joyce has been positioned as the person who eventually gives up her religion rather than someone who reconciles it with progressive beliefs, though.
Like, that's the impression I've been getting from her character arc for quite a while now.
Becky is still Christian, as Willis himself has stated. Being gay doesn't un-Christianize a person automatically.
well when you're talking to someone like me who has already said they don't read DOA and just catch it intermittently
yeah joyce looks like an asshole right now
Maybe. But I would point out that original recipe Joyce had her crisis and came out christian.
Yeah, I imagine that's the direction it could go. If so, then I hope some third-party whom Mary doesn't have dirt on stands up to her transphobic bullshit, though I don't know exactly who could. Maybe Leslie?
Really just drops rocks from orbit on it.
Lackadaisy Cats
I mean we all recognize that fact
But why
College?
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
we basically never see happy fun moments between characters, the camera is only turned on them when they're at each other's throats
even now when we had the fun of dinosaur and becky, as soon as the date strip is over someone has to turn to dinosaur and say SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU
Presumably the same reason every character in Demon is a smug, amoral shit. It takes true mastery to avoid leaving parts of yourself in the characters you write.
I'm not really intending this as a burn on Willis. Sometimes the part you leave is one you have otherwise managed to bury.
Usually my eyes slide off a comic because the art is bad.
With Lackadaisy they slide off because the art is so good but the text is hard to read.
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Thunderstruck should maybe invest in some proper sedatives and a gag.
being around people their age (as a somewhat older person) has led me to the realization that their lives are just constantly full of stupid bullshit; I'm not sure why this is, other than that maybe that's just been the status quo since gradeschool and they're yet to figure out it can be different
I think a lot of my time in undergrad probably was too? I would like to think my peer group were better adjusted but probably not by that much
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
...that gun looks like a penis.
WELL, THAT BLOWS ZARDOZ'S GIANT STONE MIND, I GUESS, CARRY ON AS YOU WERE
Looks like Shiga isn't the only one who doesn't understand science.
Willis is using Christianity and transphobia as the catalyst for all this in this latest ark but it lacks weight due to the fact that we already saw a father attempt to get his daughter reprogrammed. Chaining them one after the other seems cheap.
Furthermore, he doesn't show the side of Christianity that runs out into the world to do good and gets gunned down in their own home because they tried to be a good Christian. Show me a man or woman that tries to follow the words of their teacher and is violently rejected by the world.
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Given that the comic is apparently more or less in real time(Each day taking place over an entire fucking chapter) their lives are literally non-stop drama, so they really don't have much in the way of fun moments. There's basically no time for it.
Also not a lot of room for character growth, since the entire run (going on year 6) has covered a whopping 34 days. Not even 5 whole weeks, what the fuck.
My main beef with dumbing of age is that it isn't balanced. It's just pure non-stop drama. In order for me to care about a character going through drama, they have to usually be doing literally anything else. It's a narrative scarcity value. It just gets meaningless after a while because that just becomes the status quo.
Inversely, Questionable Content does the exact opposite of this.
Like, he's the one who is causing the issue
I'm not sure what your point is. Do you think I'm blaming the comic for having problems?
The complaint was that the comic has been all cuthroat drama all the time and you responded that it was because it is in such a short time frame so their lives are in fact drama all the time
The time frame doesn't matter that much, what matters is Willis constantly writing all drama all the time in that time frame