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Democratic Primary Debate #3: I'm Dreaming of a White Debate

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Hey, more debating less moronic right wing moles and Clinton Guys Shocked By Blow Jobs.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    Because God forbid a week goes by without Trump on our Sunday shows! He's taken McCain's permanent chair.

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Hillary is losing

    Could you elaborate on why you think that is? I'm curious about why you are reaching this conclusion, to see another viewpoint. I am liking her in-depth answers about everything, which is making her seem well-informed in my eyes, and that she has thought hard about her ideas about how to lead the country. Do you feel that her answers, while at least seeming "in-depth" are actually empty? Do you feel other's have answered better?

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    Manning'sEquationManning'sEquation Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    ?

    In my book? I think she will need to get more aggressive after the round to make up the lost ground.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    At this point, Hillary is a sure thing barring Loretta Lynch finding out about some shenanigans she engaged in with Sepp Blatter and company.

    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    And was then revealed to be full of shit. Comey is such a shithead.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I think a difference between how Clinton and Sanders are approaching the question is Clinton is going off of a pragmatic view with some ironed out ideas, while Sanders is going off an ideal and will work out the results later. Neither approach is necessarily right, but i do find myself partial to Clinton's approach.

    Also no wage increase since the last Clinton regime was a great, pithy comment. Not sure if its true, but it sounded good.

    personally when it comes to someone wanting to lead a country i'll lean towards pragmatism over 'we'll work it out don't worry'.

    of course some issues do require you waiting to see exactly what the situation is, as Clinton herself pointed out on the matter of the no-fly zone.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    ?

    In my book? I think she will need to get more aggressive after the round to make up the lost ground.

    She already killed Omalley. How much harder can she hit?

    I ate an engineer
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    jmcdonaldjmcdonald I voted, did you? DC(ish)Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    jmcdonald was warned for this.
    never die wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    Could you elaborate on why you think that is? I'm curious about why you are reaching this conclusion, to see another viewpoint. I am liking her in-depth answers about everything, which is making her seem well-informed in my eyes, and that she has thought hard about her ideas about how to lead the country. Do you feel that her answers, while at least seeming "in-depth" are actually empty? Do you feel other's have answered better?

    nononononono

    don't provide sustinance to the underbridge dweller

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    ?

    In my book? I think she will need to get more aggressive after the round to make up the lost ground.

    I feel like she has pushed back on both her opponents with specific prepared attacks, but didn't overdo it. What ground did she lose and when?

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    No new taxes on a (broad) middle class, not none. Right?

    no new taxes on those earning under $250K to be exact.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The black community in Baltimore would dispute that assessment.

    As would Freddie Gray.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    jmcdonaldjmcdonald I voted, did you? DC(ish)Registered User regular
    goddammit omalley

    you are the worst person to be talking abut policing

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    ?

    In my book? I think she will need to get more aggressive after the round to make up the lost ground.

    what lost ground? i think that's the question people are asking. where do you feel she has gone wrong tonight? where do you feel her opponents have done better?

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    The black community in Baltimore would dispute that assessment.

    As would Freddie Gray.

    Yeah he kinda wandered there, he is def the weakest on this topic

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    OK, crowd you're well meaning white people (it's New Hampshire, pretty sure I can say this).

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Let's see if Clinton comments on MJ. I'm curious to hear it.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Bernie: I have taken marijuana out of the Controlled Substances ......

    Odds on YouTubers ending that sentence after the word marijuana?

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    How do you plan on pushing for this agenda Senator Sanders?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited December 2015
    Sanders' answer on this has improved markedly.

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    TetraRayTetraRay Registered User regular
    Wait what? Bernie is making marijuana legal in the fed ??????

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Good question to ask all candidates. Marijuana still illegal at federal level, what will you do with respect to states that have legalized marijuana?

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Oh jeez straight to heroin

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    This is a thing that I know Clinton's talked about being an issue comes up on the campaign trail though it seems like a weirdly specific one.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Addiction is a disease not criminal activity.

    Nice one by Bernie

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Good question to ask all candidates. Marijuana still illegal at federal level, what will you do with respect to states that have legalized marijuana?

    Well Bernie would just make it legal federally

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Oh jeez straight to heroin

    Marijuana was a gateway question.

    There was a steam sig here. It's gone now.
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    jmcdonaldjmcdonald I voted, did you? DC(ish)Registered User regular
    wow

    NH smackhead central?

    now i'm curious how skewed that number is. because it's "48% know someone" - and that could be that everyone knows Gordie.

    hm.

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Ughh I'm split on Sander's answer about heroin. Telling doctors prescribing opiates to "stahp it" does nothing without legislation, but his second part about pushing for more addiction rehab programs is something I heavily agree with.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2015
    No Bernie. Opiates are a miracle of modern ancient medicine. We should make them freely available to people in pain. We should also have treatment and counseling for people who either use opiates legally or people who need help with addiction.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Bernie is getting more and more solid on stating his positions on the drug war, but Hillary is getting more personal on this which is smarter, even though Bernie is unquestionably better on drug policy

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    jmcdonald wrote: »
    wow

    NH smackhead central?

    now i'm curious how skewed that number is. because it's "48% know someone" - and that could be that everyone knows Gordie.

    hm.

    Heroin is really bad around here as well (coastal city) idk about that stat but I can believe it's a real problem there

    Precscription abuse is absolutely linked so good on them for mentioning that

    So It Goes on
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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2015
    never die wrote: »
    Ughh I'm split on Sander's answer about heroin. Telling doctors prescribing opiates to "stahp it" does nothing without legislation, but his second part about pushing for more addiction rehab programs is something I heavily agree with.

    Hillary just made the same link between doctors and opiates to heroin but without the "addiction is a disease not a crime" addendum

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I kind of want O'Malley to stop talking tonight

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    "I actually know a great deal about this" is maybe not the best way to start an answer.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    Manning'sEquationManning'sEquation Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    Hillary is losing

    ?

    In my book? I think she will need to get more aggressive after the round to make up the lost ground.

    She already killed Omalley. How much harder can she hit?

    True...

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    O'Malley's heart is in the right place but he needs to understand that POTUS is not the Mayor of America.

    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
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    AmphetamineAmphetamine Registered User regular
    did omalley just really compare opiate addiction to ebola

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    Standings:

    1. Clinton
    2. Sanders
    3. Muir
    4. Random Question Dudes
    5. O'Malley
    6. Wolf Blitzer
    7. Martha Raddatz

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    For people (like me) who do not know much about opiate abuse and the issues with it, here's a helpful link: http://www.drugabuse.gov/about-nida/legislative-activities/testimony-to-congress/2015/americas-addiction-to-opioids-heroin-prescription-drug-abuse

    Its a nice breakdown for dummies like me who have not been paying that much attention to the issue. I've been reading it while the candidates have been answering the questions.

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