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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    you canfind plenty of good levels through the normal level of 100 mario challenge

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »
    there are plenty of "actual levels" on mario maker

    they are poorly surfaced

    okay

    that's not the community's fault though

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i mean the part where the community gives a bunch of stars to difficult puzzle levels and causes those kind of levels to be surfaced in the "most starred" category is

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    i ordered food online, and am now watching the delivery tracker like a hawk.

    what a time to be alive.

    edit: the place accepted the order!

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    sure but that doesn't mean that the community isn't producing those kinds of levels, which was your original complaint

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Tis the season for GOTY lists
    blue [9:09 PM]
    Rocket League
    Life Is Strange
    Yugioh! Leagacy of the Duelist
    Fallout 4
    Witcher
    Until Dawn
    Bloodborne
    Soma
    Monster Hunter 4
    Heroes of the Storm

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »
    sure but that doesn't mean that the community isn't producing those kinds of levels, which was your original complaint

    i mean, yes, the community as a whole entity is going to produce a variety of levels down to calculators and musical performances

    i don't think that those levels don't exist

    i think that the systems of perpetuation set up by nintendo and utilized by the people who play mario maker push those levels away from the visible public

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    Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    Haha, I looked at the list of categories from Giantbomb's 2008 GotY.

    Their "Best Game We Didn't Play" is all sports games and Tales of Vesperia. That got a chuckle out of me.

    Edit: also hashed out my Arbitrary 10
    10) Alphabear
    9) Fallout 4
    8) Xenoblade Chronicles X
    7) Rocket League
    6) Tales from the Borderlands
    5) Bloodborne
    4) Super Mario Maker
    3) Life is Strange
    2) Splatoon
    1) Undertale

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    I mostly just favorite people who are good at making levels and then play the stuff they make. Or, you know, friends'. Those two categories are often not mutually exclusive of course.

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    update: there is a person headed to me carrying food now.

    Update: dude seemed real enthused to be delivering food to me. he almost made eye contact.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I love that we just shit on GTA 5 for 20 minutes and then ranked it at #10

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    great job placing everyone

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I don't love that speed showed me in accurate pictures of captain planets dick

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    got a text message right after we finished recording, half expected it to be from my brother demanding to know why I was talking about captain planet's dick

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    in case you were wondering how this episode went

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Man, GTA5 made me so mad. I would have been the guy voting it out of, like, the top 30.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Man, GTA5 made me so mad. I would have been the guy voting it out of, like, the top 30.

    I genuinely thought this was going to happen but the games it kept coming up against it just didn't make sense

    it was stopped by the most perfect puzzle game of all time

    and also @The Geebs That Knows Everything About Animorphs

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Man, GTA5 made me so mad. I would have been the guy voting it out of, like, the top 30.

    same, but it was legitimately a better game than all of the comparisons we made even with all of its garbage baggage

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Even better than X-2?

    A game that has at least a couple female characters that are treated with respect?

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
    Stilts wrote: »
    Even better than X-2?

    A game that has at least a couple female characters that are treated with respect?

    we didn't rank it against X-2

    we ranked it against a chess game and a weird amiga game and some other stuff that wasn't very good

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Man, GTA5 made me so mad. I would have been the guy voting it out of, like, the top 30.

    i had to think real hard about not casting a minority vote for it being worse than the number 55 game

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I probably would have ranked X-2 above GTAV, yeah, if it had come up

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    So you're saying X-2 should be higher.

    Gotcha.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    the list is fucking scientific, dustin

    it landed where it belongs

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    what did gtav get put up against?

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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    I don't think you understand the scientific validity of this exercise Stilts

    X-2 has been vetted in the exact perfect place it should be, and all future placing will be done around that pristine list

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I'm at least partially responsible for X-2 Being where it is so I don't think I can contractually agree!

    I think if this thing hits 100 episodes there should be a special FIX IT episode(s) where we take nominations of games that were already on the list and rerank them, or something, that seems suitably bonkers

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    the list is fucking scientific, dustin

    it landed where it belongs

    If the people who rank it admit to internal inconsistencies with their ranking then clearly there is a flaw in the process.

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Man, GTA5 made me so mad. I would have been the guy voting it out of, like, the top 30.

    i had to think real hard about not casting a minority vote for it being worse than the number 55 game

    AND THAT IS WHY YOU FAILED

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Melding wrote: »
    what did gtav get put up against?

    a bunch of garbage and also the greatest puzzle game of all time

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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    the list is fucking scientific, dustin

    it landed where it belongs

    If the people who rank it admit to internal inconsistencies with their ranking then clearly there is a flaw in the process.

    It's called transparency and it's the sign of a perfect scientific system

    modern studies fear admitting inconsistencies due to the threat of grants, we just place as the heart places

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    what did gtav get put up against?

    a bunch of garbage and also the greatest puzzle game of all time

    that's not a useful answer. other than it got to picross 3d.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Melding wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    what did gtav get put up against?

    a bunch of garbage and also the greatest puzzle game of all time

    that's not a useful answer. other than it got to picross 3d.

    The real answer is that I don't remember all of them. The last ones it hit were...Picross 3D, Deadly Premonition, Star War: Revenge of the Sith (GBA) and Chess System Tal II, I think

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    No one person will ever agree with the arrangement of the list

    That is in fact one of the reasons that the guest panelists rotate out instead of being a consistent stable of people

    Reranking games undermines the core conceit of the show, which is that this stupid spreadsheet is at all somehow infallibly objective, never mind the fact that the last thing this Sisyphean task needs is to be longer

    Grand Theft Auto V is better than Final Fantasy X-2, because it is better than games that are better than games that are better than final fantasy X-2.

    Part of the joke is the fallacious assumption that quality is an objective, quantifiable measurement, and that it is therefore subject to the transitive property

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    speed's science is, as always, bullshit

    I would think TWA had made that clear

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    I know, but I like giving you shit for doing this and offloading all other podcast responsibilities to me.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2015
    half tempted to host a christmas marathon let's place session tomorrow that's just however many christmas songs we can rank before I lose my mind

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    what did gtav get put up against?

    a bunch of garbage and also the greatest puzzle game of all time

    that's not a useful answer. other than it got to picross 3d.

    The real answer is that I don't remember all of them. The last ones it hit were...Picross 3D, Deadly Premonition, Star War: Revenge of the Sith (GBA) and Chess System Tal II, I think

    wait, did gtav beat Revenge of the Sith GBA?

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    bionic commando is in the top 30% of the list so i dont give a shit about the rest until we talk about Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1+2

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