Why does Leia hug Rey, who she has never even met and wouldn't know? Is there some significance I'm missing?
Well, we don't know for sure. But you can take some semi-reasonable guesses:
At the least they're both force users so could be feeling the others state. Which calls for a hug. Then you get into who Rey really is maybe.
We know Leia is probably about as Force sensitive as you can get without devoting your life to becoming a Jedi, and I personally suspect that Rey is extremely strong in the Force, like at Yoda levels or higher. They can likely "feel" each other. Plus we don't see every single piece of conversation between Han and Leia, and you know he was probably gibbering on about her - "this crazy shit is happening again, she's just like Luke, what the fuck is up with that?"
Why does Leia hug Rey, who she has never even met and wouldn't know? Is there some significance I'm missing?
Listen to the music that plays when that happens.
It's the tune called 'Han Solo and the Princess', commonly known as the Han and Leia love song. It plays in the movies, Original Trilogy and New, when Han and Leia have a touching moment. When Leia and Rey hug, they play THAT song. Probably for the last time. I've seen the movie three times, and it chokes me up every time. The looks on their faces are obviously pained and sad, they hug because they are both grieving Han. One the man she loved, the other the father she never had.
Also, everyone sad that Finn figures aren't selling, maybe that's just where you are. Near me the only figure left on the shelves is the alien X-wing pilot.
Decomposey on
Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
Why does Leia hug Rey, who she has never even met and wouldn't know? Is there some significance I'm missing?
Listen to the music that plays when that happens.
It's the tune called 'Han Solo and the Princess', commonly known as the Han and Leia love song. It plays in the movies, Original Trilogy and New, when Han and Leia have a touching moment. When Leia and Rey hug, they play THAT song. Probably for the last time. I've seen the movie three times, and it chokes me up every time. The looks on their faces are obviously pained and sad, they hug because they are both grieving Han. One the man she loved, the other the father she never had.
Also, everyone sad that Finn figures aren't selling, maybe that's just where you are. Near me the only figure left on the shelves is the alien X-wing pilot.
Ello Asty?!? What the fuck?
+1
Iron WeaselDillon!You son of a bitch!Registered Userregular
So apparently Episode 8 has a release date of May 2017.
That is actually a lot sooner than I would have expected. I'm kind of impressed.
I've read that Disney's Master Plan is a Star Wars movie every year for as long as they can get away with it.
2016 will be Rogue One
2017 will be Episode 8
2018 will be another non-episode film
2019 will be Episode 9
etc ...
Currently Playing:
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
So apparently Episode 8 has a release date of May 2017.
That is actually a lot sooner than I would have expected. I'm kind of impressed.
I've read that Disney's Master Plan is a Star Wars movie every year for as long as they can get away with it.
2016 will be Rogue One
2017 will be Episode 8
2018 will be another non-episode film
2019 will be Episode 9
etc ...
2018 is, specifically, the Lord and Miller Han Solo film
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Right, so one of the most touching and emotionally charged moments in the film is an oversight. Ok, sure.
Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
So apparently Episode 8 has a release date of May 2017.
That is actually a lot sooner than I would have expected. I'm kind of impressed.
I've read that Disney's Master Plan is a Star Wars movie every year for as long as they can get away with it.
2016 will be Rogue One
2017 will be Episode 8
2018 will be another non-episode film
2019 will be Episode 9
etc ...
2018 is, specifically, the Lord and Miller Han Solo film
not sure how I feel about a han solo film
I mean, obviously I want it to be good, and based on how episode 7 turned out, I have no reason to doubt it will be.
I guess it really all comes down to how well whatever actor they choose pulls it off.
So apparently Episode 8 has a release date of May 2017.
That is actually a lot sooner than I would have expected. I'm kind of impressed.
I've read that Disney's Master Plan is a Star Wars movie every year for as long as they can get away with it.
2016 will be Rogue One
2017 will be Episode 8
2018 will be another non-episode film
2019 will be Episode 9
etc ...
2018 is, specifically, the Lord and Miller Han Solo film
not sure how I feel about a han solo film
I mean, obviously I want it to be good, and based on how episode 7 turned out, I have no reason to doubt it will be.
I guess it really all comes down to how well whatever actor they choose pulls it off.
Lord and Miller have directed 4 films and 4 of them are absolutely fantastic and hilarious and full of great casting
Every one of those movies they've made has been a horrible idea that turns out excellent, much like how an Adventures of Young Han Solo movie is A Bad Idea
He doesn't even pick up a lightsaber until the 2nd or 3rd film.
Now that I actually know the full history of Kyle Katarn (I had only ever played Jedi Outcast)
Making him into a jedi is duuuuuuuuuumb
Great for gameplay, awful for narrative
The idea of this merc who's done work for the Empire and the Rebellion, has no particular allegiance, and is constantly using his knowledge of both sides against the other is fantastic
And he should just be a dude
Just like how making Han Solo a jedi would be dumb as hell
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Nah
You're just for some reason ignoring rational reasoning for why Leia would do what basically any decent human would
That's your prerogative but acting like an emotional moment is a mistake because you either don't understand emotions or are intentionally ignoring how human beings act to one another does sort of make you seem like a robbit
He doesn't even pick up a lightsaber until the 2nd or 3rd film.
Now that I actually know the full history of Kyle Katarn (I had only ever played Jedi Outcast)
Making him into a jedi is duuuuuuuuuumb
Great for gameplay, awful for narrative
The idea of this merc who's done work for the Empire and the Rebellion, has no particular allegiance, and is constantly using his knowledge of both sides against the other is fantastic
And he should just be a dude
Just like how making Han Solo a jedi would be dumb as hell
Final scene of the final Kyle Katarn film is him starting on the path to be a Jedi.
Every one of those movies they've made has been a horrible idea that turns out excellent, much like how an Adventures of Young Han Solo movie is A Bad Idea
Yeah, this. It's not just that they've made great films, they've made films that I had absolutely zero interest in into great films. That's a special kind of alchemy.
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Right, so one of the most touching and emotionally charged moments in the film is an oversight. Ok, sure.
My issue isn't that the scene itself is an oversight, because it's not, it's with the characters who took part in said scene and the roles they play. Rey obviously cares more about Finn than she did Han, and Chewbacca definitely cares more about Han than Finn, so it's strange that the decision was made to essentially swap their positions that would have made the most sense; with Chewie and Leia sharing the moment of mourning for Han, and Rey ensuring that her first and best friend survives. And given the lack of history between Rey and Leia, the decision to do so seems to have been made because of Rey's position as primary protagonist
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Nah
You're just for some reason ignoring rational reasoning for why Leia would do what basically any decent human would
That's your prerogative but acting like an emotional moment is a mistake because you either don't understand emotions or are intentionally ignoring how human beings act to one another does sort of make you seem like a robbit
I'm just wondering if it's supposed to be something else, like
Who got force persuaded by Rey to release her was played by Daniel Craig? Is this true?
Yup.
Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Right, so one of the most touching and emotionally charged moments in the film is an oversight. Ok, sure.
My issue isn't that the scene itself is an oversight, because it's not, it's with the characters who took part in said scene and the roles they play. Rey obviously cares more about Finn than she did Han, and Chewbacca definitely cares more about Han than Finn, so it's strange that the decision was made to essentially swap their positions that would have made the most sense; with Chewie and Leia sharing the moment of mourning for Han, and Rey ensuring that her first and best friend survives. And given the lack of history between Rey and Leia, the decision to do so seems to have been made because of Rey's position as primary protagonist
Chewie immediately goes for alone time, and Rey knows finn is alive and goes and checks on her after the hug
People can perform more than one similar action
Chewie probably also got a hug
And Rey and Leia both loved Han, they are sharing a moment of grief
Yeah but so was Chewie and Leia didn't even look at him.
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
This is literally the first time Rey and Leia meet. Apart from 'the Force' there's not even any explanation that each one knows who the other is. Rey was kidnapped before the resistance came and had never met Poe or Leia or anyone in the Resistance up to that point. They don't even introduce themselves before embracing one another. It's a tiny detail, but it's a super weird tiny detail to add when you think about it, other than 'let's have these two primary characters interact and it's the end of the film so no real time for exposition, so let's just have them be close immediately'.
They DON'T know each other. But they both know the other is grieving so they hug to share that grief. Chewy is busy taking care of Finn, he's too mentally occupied to be filled with grief, but Rey isn't and Leia isn't, and so they hug to support each other. How is this so hard to grasp?
I grasp it just fine. You can obviously rationalize it, just like you can perfectly rationalize Chewbacca not getting getting a medal in ANH, or how they decided to have Obi-Wan and R2-D2 be pals in the prequels, despite Alec Guinness explicitly saying 'I don't know this droid' in the first film. Doesn't change the fact that it stands out. Oversights happen in films. This definitely feels like one of them.
Right, so one of the most touching and emotionally charged moments in the film is an oversight. Ok, sure.
My issue isn't that the scene itself is an oversight, because it's not, it's with the characters who took part in said scene and the roles they play. Rey obviously cares more about Finn than she did Han, and Chewbacca definitely cares more about Han than Finn, so it's strange that the decision was made to essentially swap their positions that would have made the most sense; with Chewie and Leia sharing the moment of mourning for Han, and Rey ensuring that her first and best friend survives. And given the lack of history between Rey and Leia, the decision to do so seems to have been made because of Rey's position as primary protagonist
I think you missed the part where they were pretty clearly putting Han in the position of a father figure for Rey during the short time they were together
Like, Han even talks up Rey to Leia when they're together
Yeah Han and Rey's interactions were very father-daughter in tone. The whole thing with him giving her that blaster felt like a father bringing his kid along to work for the first time.
+5
MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Between this and the political situation of the galaxy, we should retitle this to "The [Star Wars] thread where everything not explicitly stated is an oversight" or something
Posts
Listen to the music that plays when that happens.
Also, everyone sad that Finn figures aren't selling, maybe that's just where you are. Near me the only figure left on the shelves is the alien X-wing pilot.
That is actually a lot sooner than I would have expected. I'm kind of impressed.
Ello Asty?!? What the fuck?
2016 will be Rogue One
2017 will be Episode 8
2018 will be another non-episode film
2019 will be Episode 9
etc ...
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
All your money are belong to Walt's frozen head
She knows Han died
I dunno I thought it was self explanatory?
It's because Rey is the jedi now and thus cemented her role as primary protagonist. That's the first and last the reason.
No, that's needlessly cynical and reductive
Right, so one of the most touching and emotionally charged moments in the film is an oversight. Ok, sure.
not sure how I feel about a han solo film
I mean, obviously I want it to be good, and based on how episode 7 turned out, I have no reason to doubt it will be.
I guess it really all comes down to how well whatever actor they choose pulls it off.
I'm pretty sure that's real life charisma seeping into the movie..
I am very confident in it
Every one of those movies they've made has been a horrible idea that turns out excellent, much like how an Adventures of Young Han Solo movie is A Bad Idea
But it will probably be a pretty darn entertaining film regardless.
He doesn't even pick up a lightsaber until the 2nd or 3rd film.
Who might (should) be played by Michael B. Jordan
Okay you may have gotten me back on board with the film being about han solo.
Now that I actually know the full history of Kyle Katarn (I had only ever played Jedi Outcast)
Making him into a jedi is duuuuuuuuuumb
Great for gameplay, awful for narrative
The idea of this merc who's done work for the Empire and the Rebellion, has no particular allegiance, and is constantly using his knowledge of both sides against the other is fantastic
And he should just be a dude
Just like how making Han Solo a jedi would be dumb as hell
I learned today that yes... this is an actual thing....
Nah
You're just for some reason ignoring rational reasoning for why Leia would do what basically any decent human would
That's your prerogative but acting like an emotional moment is a mistake because you either don't understand emotions or are intentionally ignoring how human beings act to one another does sort of make you seem like a robbit
Final scene of the final Kyle Katarn film is him starting on the path to be a Jedi.
But we never see that actually happen.
the one thing i've learned from reading the backs of toy boxes
is that every on-screen extra in the star wars trilogy is either a spy, double agent, mercenary, soldier, or bounty hunter
that guy carrying those boxes? yeah, those boxes were full of explosives that he was smuggling for the rebellion!
Yeah, this. It's not just that they've made great films, they've made films that I had absolutely zero interest in into great films. That's a special kind of alchemy.
I'm just wondering if it's supposed to be something else, like
WoW
Dear Satan.....
Yup.
apparently yes, this is true.
also apparently the name of the stormtrooper was
People can perform more than one similar action
Chewie probably also got a hug
And Rey and Leia both loved Han, they are sharing a moment of grief
this is super weird dude, this is like
a basic human emotional action
Like, Han even talks up Rey to Leia when they're together
I just checked IMDB. It confirms this information.
Also many bothans died....?