Of all the transgressions of Avatar, the thing that still bugs me the most is that they could not come up with something better than "unobtainium". What, was "hardtofindinite" taken?
TFA could have used a couple more goes round the writing process, so it's good to hear.
The Watch podcast - who usually know what they're talking about when it comes to behind the scenes stuff - was saying that ep 7 really only had like a functional script a few weeks before principal filming began. And one way they dealt with that lack of definition was by raising lots of questions and not answering any of them.
So now ep 8 not only has to do its own thing, it has to figure out a lot of those late-written ep 7 plotlines and how to tell answer them.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Because despite the fact that the movie was four hours long and made all the money I couldn't tell you anything substantive about that film if you held a gun to my head
Don't forget The Last Samurai! Doesn't have to be an Eco-friendly message so long as Mighty Whitey is better at the adopted warrior culture than its natives are.
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I saw Avatar once, and that was enough. If I were to ever watch it again, I'd have to turn it off after the destruction of Hometree, that way I can pretend it has a happy ending.
Ah yes, the typical "destruction of the native people's home and way of life" happy ending. You can have them raise the american flag at the end.
Is that better or worse than the white guy swooping in to combine his whiteness with the native's knowledge - which he absorbs in a week - so that he can rise up and be the best of them because white
I'm actually probably more irritated by people who have turned avatar into some kind of pinnacle of bad filmmaking in their minds than people who really like it
Really the biggest problem isn't that it's a bad film, or poorly made or written.
It's just so aggressively aggravatingly boring. If it were bad it might be more memorable or funny or something.
Yeah this is where I'm at
A bad movie rarely makes me feel more strongly than a mediocre movie because a bad movie is just bad and you take it or leave it
A bland movie makes me mad because I can see all the points where it could be better but isn't, where it might do something interesting or new but doesn't, and that's just... "aggravating" is a good word
And Avatar in particular feels designed almost from the ground up to be bland, therefore I feel very strongly about it
Because they are the same ideas which were used in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and that game's setting and storyline were amazing
Yeah, but the factions were either trying to learn from Planet and nurture it to sentience, or aggressively suppress it. They weren't beating the mindworms at being mindworms.
i went to star wars trivia night with some friends last night and, despite being mildly drunk, managed to correctly identify 12 out of 18 podracers, bringing us to tie for third
I wonder how Avatar would've been received if Jake Sully's consciousness had instead been injected into a swarm of brain-eating worms
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GreasyKidsStuffMOMMM!ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered Userregular
I thought Avatar was an entirely competent, well-made film that just told an incredibly problematic, reductive story.
I mean, it's watchable. I watched it again for a film class in university, and even enjoyed myself! But if you look at it with any sort of scrutiny, you see that oh, this is a hella problematic, cliche white saviour tale and whoof, we don't need more of those.
But that scene where Jake learns to fly for the first time? That was really cool. Best part of the film, in my opinion.
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Also they were like "we got a real biologist to design our fake sci-fi world!" and then it's the dumbest, most blacklight-poster head shop looking sci-fi world I've ever fucking seen
That goddamn helicopter lizard, what the fuck was that, that biologist was laughing all the way to the bank
As someone who is a firearms hobbyist and at one point had a Soldier of Fortune subscription I can very confidently say that gun culture is out to fuckin lunch off its rocker pants shitting nutso town
Yeah
There are weird people in all subcultures
The deeper you go, the weirder it gets
Guns are really dangerous things, obviously
So a crazy gun hobbyist is a bit scarier than a person with a Faye Valentine body pillow
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GumpyThere is alwaysa greater powerRegistered Userregular
edited January 2016
Avatar was a fairly OK film and I think it was a bold directing choice to make the protagonists lose
Also they were like "we got a real biologist to design our fake sci-fi world!" and then it's the dumbest, most blacklight-poster head shop looking sci-fi world I've ever fucking seen
That goddamn helicopter lizard, what the fuck was that, that biologist was laughing all the way to the bank
"blacklight-poster head shop-looking sci-fi world" is going to be how I describe the laziness of this movie from now on
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
i went to star wars trivia night with some friends last night and, despite being mildly drunk, managed to correctly identify 12 out of 18 podracers, bringing us to tie for third
Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
I kinda want to get another Imperial Class and take the radar array on top of the command section off and rotate it up 90 degrees like the Imperial-I classes in A New Hope.
The one that got me was the lack of fur. Other than the na'vi, none of the creatures ever had fur or hair of any kind, just the same slick lizardy skin all around.
Also they were like "we got a real biologist to design our fake sci-fi world!" and then it's the dumbest, most blacklight-poster head shop looking sci-fi world I've ever fucking seen
That goddamn helicopter lizard, what the fuck was that, that biologist was laughing all the way to the bank
"blacklight-poster head shop-looking sci-fi world" is going to be how I describe the laziness of this movie from now on
Avatar?
(this is a poster that teenage me actually bought, which for some reason still remains in my teenage bedroom)
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still dumb to use it
He smoked cigars and sipped coffee while watching trees burn down and then had a big robot with a huge knife for no reason
Everything else about that movie sucked but he was a fantastic cartoon character
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The rest of the movie was a garbage fire
The Watch podcast - who usually know what they're talking about when it comes to behind the scenes stuff - was saying that ep 7 really only had like a functional script a few weeks before principal filming began. And one way they dealt with that lack of definition was by raising lots of questions and not answering any of them.
So now ep 8 not only has to do its own thing, it has to figure out a lot of those late-written ep 7 plotlines and how to tell answer them.
Don't forget The Last Samurai! Doesn't have to be an Eco-friendly message so long as Mighty Whitey is better at the adopted warrior culture than its natives are.
Cameron has said that Quaritch, (the evil Colonel) is coming back for Avatar 2. I have no idea how though. Maybe a clone?
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I hope he comes back as one of the smurfs...that would be amazing.
This is the guy who gave us Terminator.
I think you know how.
Yes. Yes. This would make it worth watching.
Some day
Why is it a competition? Both are terrible.
It's not terrible. It's aggressively mediocre, propped up by a visual spectacle that hasn't held up as the years went by.
Its ok
also unobtanium sounds dumb but if the rest of the movie was good no one would give a shit
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It's just so aggressively aggravatingly boring. If it were bad it might be more memorable or funny or something.
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Yeah this is where I'm at
A bad movie rarely makes me feel more strongly than a mediocre movie because a bad movie is just bad and you take it or leave it
A bland movie makes me mad because I can see all the points where it could be better but isn't, where it might do something interesting or new but doesn't, and that's just... "aggravating" is a good word
And Avatar in particular feels designed almost from the ground up to be bland, therefore I feel very strongly about it
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Because they are the same ideas which were used in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and that game's setting and storyline were amazing
Yeah, but the factions were either trying to learn from Planet and nurture it to sentience, or aggressively suppress it. They weren't beating the mindworms at being mindworms.
i've wasted...so many brain cells
I mean, it's watchable. I watched it again for a film class in university, and even enjoyed myself! But if you look at it with any sort of scrutiny, you see that oh, this is a hella problematic, cliche white saviour tale and whoof, we don't need more of those.
But that scene where Jake learns to fly for the first time? That was really cool. Best part of the film, in my opinion.
That goddamn helicopter lizard, what the fuck was that, that biologist was laughing all the way to the bank
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This thing is really big and somehow makes other ships look less small, like the Nebula B Frigate.
Yeah
There are weird people in all subcultures
The deeper you go, the weirder it gets
Guns are really dangerous things, obviously
So a crazy gun hobbyist is a bit scarier than a person with a Faye Valentine body pillow
what good guys lost
"blacklight-poster head shop-looking sci-fi world" is going to be how I describe the laziness of this movie from now on
yeah, because it executed them well
not only were all the plot beats of Avatar trite clichéd bullshit, the dialogue was all awkward, lazily-delivered junk
it could have been tolerable, even entertaining, if nearly all the talking wasn't so cringeworthy
I think I can name 2
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I just saw the X-Wing miniatures game in the store and pointed out to my wife
I mentioned it was two players, and she immediately suggested we get it sometime
I should've leveraged her love of board games a lot sooner!
Avatar?
(this is a poster that teenage me actually bought, which for some reason still remains in my teenage bedroom)