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[MechWarrior Online] Shut this s**t down, it's gotten too weird. (Thread done!)

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Meh! Meh I say!

    idunno, a free mech bay is p nice. As good as a 30% bonus

    fuck gendered marketing
    Konphujun
  • SupraluminalSupraluminal Registered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    this hero event might make me pull the Huginn out of mothballs.

    I aint touched it since its quirks were ruined.

    Or just run an AC20 Grid Iron. Either Or

    What did they do to Huginn's quirks? I didn't even notice it had changed. Still works well for me.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Nips wrote: »
    Nips wrote: »
    Trying to figure out how to approach this Event, though to be honest I'm probably sitting it out until the community susses out the rewards.

    So, the only Champion 'Mechs in my IS account stable are the Jenner F and Cicada 2A champions. Ummm. Hrmm.

    Eight Quick Play matches with a score of 150, in one of those two. Hrm.

    Trial mechs count for champion status, if that helps.

    But the cockpit seat cushion won't have my precise butt-imprint! How am I supposed to operate under such conditions? :P

    More seriously, I'm totally fine with running either of those two 'Mechs, it's just been a loooooong while since I was in either. I looked at their Quirks to see what might be good, but it looks like they're both pretty vanilla energy boats at this point.

    Hell, I might do something dumb like this, just for a lark: JR7-F(C): 1xPPC, 5xSL, XL280, 2xJJ, 12xDHS
    @Nips

    CDA-2A(C) 2xLPL 300XL Endo ferro DHS Couple with cooldown and range, you have a decent long range poker that does 22 damage a pop with almost no heat concerns.

    Buttcleft on
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    If anyone is down for some quick private matches, let me know. But I won't be on till Saturday night.

    Special Urbies and Phoenix Locusts only! Okay, okay...Invasion Mist Lynx can come, too.

    | Origin/R*SC: Ein7919 | Battle.net: Erlkonig#1448 | XBL: Lexicanum | Steam: Der Erlkönig (the umlaut is important) |
  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    time for an impromptu oosik bash 6v6 stock urbies.

    or 12v1 urbies v an assault.

    edit
    12v12 std60 engine urbies on polar highlands.

    Buttcleft on
    Betsuni
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    time for an impromptu oosik bash 6v6 stock urbies.

    or 12v1 urbies v an assault.

    edit
    12v12 std60 engine urbies on polar highlands.

    I am now envisioning 12 poptarting Urbies on one side lobbing AC20 shots at 12 poptarting Urbies on the other side.

    | Origin/R*SC: Ein7919 | Battle.net: Erlkonig#1448 | XBL: Lexicanum | Steam: Der Erlkönig (the umlaut is important) |
    ElvenshaeHydroSqueegeeElldren
  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
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    I can only carry so hard, god damnit.

    SpectrumBetsuni
  • SupraluminalSupraluminal Registered User regular
    I had a match last night where I got over 1k damage and 5 of my team's 7 kills, and we still went on to lose. Granted, that was in a Stalker, not a Panther... that's a good showing for a loss in a light.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I had a match last night where I got over 1k damage and 5 of my team's 7 kills, and we still went on to lose. Granted, that was in a Stalker, not a Panther... that's a good showing for a loss in a light.

    I'd have had kills if that cheetah hadn't followed me everywhere and fired only after I had the juicy internals all deep red.

    I almost 1v1'd an executioner..would have if 4 of his friends hadn't shown up..Then I put the whopping on his friends.

    All of them were open and ready to die..and the cheetah, the last survivor of course, just runs straight at the executioner and chest humps it to death when almost every one of the remaining enemies were 1-2 shots from death if he'd just had a brain.

    god I love the 2xLPL panther.

    Buttcleft on
  • SupraluminalSupraluminal Registered User regular
    I feel pretty confident in saying that LPLs and SRMs are the standout best IS weapons right now, outside of some niches created by strong quirks (e.g. UAC/5 on the Jagermech-DD). ERLLs are all well and good but feel too situational for most builds.

    ElvenshaeKonphujun
  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I feel pretty confident in saying that LPLs and SRMs are the standout best IS weapons right now, outside of some niches created by strong quirks (e.g. UAC/5 on the Jagermech-DD). ERLLs are all well and good but feel too situational for most builds.

    I would definitely say the LPLs are the IS best weapon right now, because they are not dependent on quirks and just output obscene damage.

    Soo..expect them to be ruined by Russ soon.

    Buttcleft on
    HydroSqueegeeSupraluminal
  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Its gonna be one of those weekends, I guess.

    encountered a cheetah who decided to just stand infront of my grid iron (1xAC20 1xMlas, AC20 Cooldown Module) and just play rock'm sock'm robots with me.

    3 alphas with an AC20 and an Mlas directly into his CT and his armor wasn't even broken. Meanwhile he bored through my hunch and killed my AC20, then me.

  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Its gonna be one of those weekends, I guess.

    encountered a cheetah who decided to just stand infront of my grid iron (1xAC20 1xMlas, AC20 Cooldown Module) and just play rock'm sock'm robots with me.

    3 alphas with an AC20 and an Mlas directly into his CT and his armor wasn't even broken. Meanwhile he bored through my hunch and killed my AC20, then me.

    Uh well yeah, Arctic cheetahs have higher alpha than that and bullshit hitboxes. He knows what he's doing.

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    Gnome-Interruptus
  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    I know it's only been an hour and a half since the event started, but as peeps complete some of the challenges we should try to aggregate what the rewards are. Report in! Help the cause!

    Because...y'know...for science...and stuff.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Nips wrote: »
    I know it's only been an hour and a half since the event started, but as peeps complete some of the challenges we should try to aggregate what the rewards are. Report in! Help the cause!

    Because...y'know...for science...and stuff.

    @Nips 4 Light mech drops gives 250k cbills
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Its gonna be one of those weekends, I guess.

    encountered a cheetah who decided to just stand infront of my grid iron (1xAC20 1xMlas, AC20 Cooldown Module) and just play rock'm sock'm robots with me.

    3 alphas with an AC20 and an Mlas directly into his CT and his armor wasn't even broken. Meanwhile he bored through my hunch and killed my AC20, then me.

    Uh well yeah, Arctic cheetahs have higher alpha than that and bullshit hitboxes. He knows what he's doing.

    I think you are failing to notice the major issue in my statement. that 3 alphas with a AC20 and Mlas couldn't even crack the armor to expose gooey insides.

    Buttcleft on
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    I know it's only been an hour and a half since the event started, but as peeps complete some of the challenges we should try to aggregate what the rewards are. Report in! Help the cause!

    Because...y'know...for science...and stuff.

    Quickplay 4 Heavy Matches is 250k CBills

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Nips wrote: »
    I know it's only been an hour and a half since the event started, but as peeps complete some of the challenges we should try to aggregate what the rewards are. Report in! Help the cause!

    Because...y'know...for science...and stuff.

    Quickplay 4 Heavy Matches is 250k CBills

    Lights also give 250k.

    Safe to assume medium and assault also give 250k at this point.

  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Awesome, guys! I'll start archiving this important intel at the top of the OP, for the duration of the event.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Vallentines Wins gives a day of premium @nips

  • SkwigelfSkwigelf Passed out in a cloud of farts and cigarette smoke.Registered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Nips wrote: »
    I know it's only been an hour and a half since the event started, but as peeps complete some of the challenges we should try to aggregate what the rewards are. Report in! Help the cause!

    Because...y'know...for science...and stuff.

    Quickplay 4 Heavy Matches is 250k CBills

    Lights also give 250k.

    Safe to assume medium and assault also give 250k at this point.

    They do indeed.

    Working on the 8 hero mech unlock. At 5 so far.

  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Alright, top of the OP updated with what we know so far. Keep 'em coming!

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    I'm a dumb.

    Why am I running a Grid Iron, I own the Arrow goddamnit.

    NipsHydroSqueegee
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Its gonna be one of those weekends, I guess.

    encountered a cheetah who decided to just stand infront of my grid iron (1xAC20 1xMlas, AC20 Cooldown Module) and just play rock'm sock'm robots with me.

    3 alphas with an AC20 and an Mlas directly into his CT and his armor wasn't even broken. Meanwhile he bored through my hunch and killed my AC20, then me.

    Uh well yeah, Arctic cheetahs have higher alpha than that and bullshit hitboxes. He knows what he's doing.

    I think you are failing to notice the major issue in my statement. that 3 alphas with a AC20 and Mlas couldn't even crack the armor to expose gooey insides.
    Yeah, sounds about right to me. It's a Cheetah, after all.

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    Elvenshae
  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    this hero event might make me pull the Huginn out of mothballs.

    I aint touched it since its quirks were ruined.

    Or just run an AC20 Grid Iron. Either Or

    Lo-Wang with 2 UAC/5's and 2 ML's is fun.

  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    So from the official forums:

    Assists - Ox Blood Locket
    CW - 1000 GXP
    Champions - 1000 GXP
    Private Match - Spring Hula Girl

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    Steam: betsuni7
    NipsElldren
  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Great, just missing Quick Play Matches, KMDD's, and Heroes.

    Question: Is it possible to advance more than one counter at a time? E.g., does piloting a Huginn increment the Hero, Light 'mech, Quick Play, Wins, Assists, and KMDD trackers all at once?

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    Great, just missing Quick Play Matches, KMDD's, and Heroes.

    Question: Is it possible to advance more than one counter at a time? E.g., does piloting a Huginn increment the Hero, Light 'mech, Quick Play, Wins, Assists, and KMDD trackers all at once?

    Yes.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    @Nips yes it does.

    Also ughhhghh I suddenly cant play.

    5 matches in a row where I didn't even break 100 damage and died within the first minute.

    in my defense 2 of those were cause annoying LRM rain.

  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
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  • SkwigelfSkwigelf Passed out in a cloud of farts and cigarette smoke.Registered User regular
    5 wins unlock = 1 day premium time

    Elldren
  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    huh jenner iics are cheaper than I thought they'd be

    gonna have some leftover bills I guess

    ed: also rip quickdraws, the brightest star but the shortest lived

    Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
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    hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
    that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular

    Man, there's a lot of stuff in this patch.

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  • nonoffensivenonoffensive Registered User regular
    Lol, TC1 buffs. GG PGI

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  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Lol, TC1 buffs. GG PGI

    The changes to the TC1 are so incrementally small, I doubt anyone would even notice outside of the Zoom bonuses.

    This is probably my favorite change in the patch notes:
    • The pilot's throttle-hand now pushes forward when increasing throttle, and backwards when decreasing throttle.
    Finally, my verisimilitude is made whole!

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    • Fixed an issue where 'Mechs could still open and close their weapon doors when overheated or shutdown.

    Thank god. There was nothing like watching a Stalker try and fan itself when it overheated...

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  • HandgimpHandgimp R+L=J Family PhotoRegistered User regular
    Not a bad performance for 2 AFK and one disconnect.

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  • nonoffensivenonoffensive Registered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    Lol, TC1 buffs. GG PGI

    The changes to the TC1 are so incrementally small, I doubt anyone would even notice outside of the Zoom bonuses.

    A 1.75% buff to beam range increases ER Large Lasers by 13m in the same patch they gutted 167m off a bunch of IS mechs. Naw, whats to notice?

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  • NipsNips He/Him Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
  • SupraluminalSupraluminal Registered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    this hero event might make me pull the Huginn out of mothballs.

    I aint touched it since its quirks were ruined.

    Or just run an AC20 Grid Iron. Either Or

    What did they do to Huginn's quirks? I didn't even notice it had changed. Still works well for me.

    Case in point!

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    Two of those were actually KMDDs, although I did proceed to run up the score a bit at the end of the match by stealing a kill or three.

    Spectrum
  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    I wonder if its' 'shoulders' are ST or CT hitboxes

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    hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
    that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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